The Travel Troubleshooter: Hey, what happened to my ticket refund?

Question: My wife and I planned a trip to Antigua this summer and purchased round-trip flights, hotel room and a kayak excursion through Expedia in December.

Everything was a “go” until we received a call one day in early April from an Expedia representative informing us of a change to our American Airlines flights. American had apparently changed quite a few flights to the island and, unfortunately, none of the changes worked for us.

The Expedia rep said that if we chose not to accept the changes for the flights that we could expect to see a full refund due to an “unacceptable” involuntary schedule change by the airline. After getting the rep to verify that we could cancel the hotel, excursion and flights at no charge, I authorized them to go ahead and cancel the trip completely.

The rep was able to instantly provide a refund for the hotel and kayak trip, but advised that the refund for the flights would take between four to six weeks to go through.

Six weeks later, having received no refund, I checked with Expedia. It informed me that it had already given me a refund, but it turns out it only was referring to the first refund. I emailed Expedia back to let it know that it got the wrong refund, but have not received a response yet. It concerns me that no one can seem to tell us when we will ever get the refund or why it has been held up for so long.

I am at my wits’ end with Expedia, Chris. Can you please help me get this resolved? My wife and I would be so grateful. — Dan Lachapelle, Sudbury, Canada

Answer: I wouldn’t be so quick to blame Expedia. Airlines are known to drag their feet when it comes to refunds, and my initial reading of your problem suggests American might have something to do with the delay, too.

This is a common problem. You buy your tickets through an agency, and the agency takes your money. But if you want a refund — or something else, like a name change — then the agency defers to the airline.

If you paid the agency, why can’t the agency just give you a refund?

I’ve been covering the travel industry for years, and I still haven’t heard a reasonable answer to that question. I’m told that it’s technology or policy or even tradition that keeps your money from flowing back in your direction promptly. Either way, it seems the only beneficiaries are the companies that get to keep your money for two to three billing cycles. It shouldn’t be that way.

Expedia should have been able to refund your entire purchase and then retrieve the money from the airline. Instead, it made you wait. And when you made inquiries, it told you the check was in the mail, and when you followed up, refused to answer.

For what it’s worth, I think your refund would have come — eventually. But you’ve been more than patient. You can find the names of Expedia’s executives on my new customer service wiki, On Your Side and appeal your case to someone higher up the food chain.

I asked Expedia about your refund. It contacted you and admitted losing the information for your flights and refund. You received a full refund for your trip.

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  • DavidS

    A reputable travel agent would do the work the OP is asking Chris for help with. Since a travel agent does not have the money or operate the flights they have to work with the airline for assistance. Many travel agents have a long established personal relationship with a representative from the airline.

    A small agency is a small business. Most rely on good customer service for continued business. An online ticket website is all about volume first.

  • David Z

    Guys, guys! No need to fight here. :)

    If anything, all concerned parties (passenger, travel agent, ticket agent, etc.) ought to give their views on their side of the fence so others would at least understand. Maybe more importantly, do so in a way that helps the person relate.

    This is something I was once taught back in my travel agent days: not necessarily to use jargon since obviously the trained agent knows, but not the consumer. One challenge lays in explaining things in a way the consumer can understand, or can use jargon but at least give some terms people can relate to.

    Importantly, it’s hoped the airlines’ ticketing and billing process is understood. It doesn’t mean one has to appreciate or like that, though, and that’s fine.

  • David Z

    “It’s simple, you want real service, go find a good travel agent.”

    Or do it yourself, and learn as you go along. :)

  • https://profiles.google.com/115109703985652843411?hl=en&tab=wh Billy Bob

    What’s to be learned?  Which airline or website doesn’t do the same thing?

  • David Z

    “Why does it it take weeks and not minutes to process a refund once it is approved?”

    Accounting on the company’s side?

    Billing cycle?

    Earn interest?Who knows?

  • John

    This is completely false. You pay the tracel agency, who then pays the airline.

  • John

    Lindabator…sorry but you’re 100% wrong. When you buy through an agency, you’re paying the agency. In addition, they actually hold the money until you fly, at which point they pay the airline. So, the airline doesn’t get any of your money until you travel. In the case that the airline has to issue a refund (which it can do in the case of IRROPS), then they do actually pay you their own money, but then send a debit memo to the agency to get their money back.

  • http://www.facebook.com/monica.l.kennedy Monica Lynn Kennedy

    I have the same experience. When I was young and naive, I used Travelocity and Expedia to book my airline tickets. My credit card was always charged by those agencies, never by the airline I was flying. So in this case, the OP and Chris are correct… if Expedia took my money, Expedia should be the one to refund it.

  • DavidS

    That is strange, every time I used an online ticketing website the charge was by the airline. I have used it for 100′s of tickets for a small company’s travel I managed. On my credit card statement the charge would be for the airline, but it DID indicate purchased through (not from!) the ticketing website.

    Regardless, the point is a travel agent should be involved in a passenger dispute with an airline. The level of customer service of online agencies is pathetic.

  • Alan

    RE: Why an agency can not refund the airline tickets.
    Because the agency does not charge the card is why.  The airline does, so the airline has to refund the ticket costs.  And they do so on their own time frame, reasonable or not.
    When seeking a refund of any kind, see who charged the card from your statement and go after them directly.

  • Tony A.

    A long time ago you rarely had these issues since you probably would have bought tickets using a travel agent (human). They took care of refund problems like this. Nothing else (no acronyms) need to be explained to consumers because everything was taken cared of for them by travel professionals.

    Today, more than half of passengers book international travel tickets ONLINE. They are required to do things travel agents would have normally done before (pick flights, enter passenger names, enter payment info.,  etc.). Unfortunately most passengers have really no clue what’s going on beneath those computer screens. So, when there is a problem, there are no travel agent there to fix the problem. The person who bought online must call a help desk (call center agents who do not know the history of the passenger and who don’t have a relationship with the passenger) and try their luck there. When things don’t get fixed to the customer’s satisfaction, they go forums like this and ask for help. So people like me (travel agents) have to explain in terms we use everyday what is going on. Yeah it’s complicated but that is life today since people are now really being asked to do the work that travel agents used to do.

  • bodega

    John, you are absolutely 100% incorrect.  All tickets issued are reported to ARC once a week.  If you use a brick and mortar agency and they allow you to pay by check or cash, they deposit the money, but the amount of your ticket is deducted from their account by ARC when that ticket is reported.  We do not give back money, when paid by check or cash, until the airline has credited it into the account, if the fare is such that a refund would be due.  If a credit card it used for a published fare, the carrier handles the charge and if a ticket is allowed to be refunded, once the refund is processed, which again is done once a week, the refund to the credit card is done by the carrier.

    Now bulk and net fares can be paid to an agency through their merchant account with your credit card or by cash/check and not charged by the carrier.  This would apply to packages/tours that the agency has put together.  These tickets are still reported to ARC, but the time of ticketing depends on the contract between the agency and the carrier and is usually different that the ticketing deadline the agency gives you. 

  • Lindabator

    Actually, you can clearly see the charge on your credit card statement as being made with the airlines directly — and since the refund goes back to the original form of payment (your card), that is why you cannot expect the agency to refund you as well.  They SHOULD have expedited the situation, without a doubt.  (As a travel agent, I do so IMMEDIATELY!).  But as for the agency actually refunding the monies, they don’t get the money back from the airlines to do so, unless you’ve paid by cash or check, and the agency has paid for the ticket.  So they would have to give you the money one day, and beg you back for it the next???  Wouldn’t work out.

  • Ckbtvl

    When an agency / tour company does an airline ticket, they process the payment throught the airline. When an airline is forced to make a refund through error or need, they say whithout exception, “this refund will take 2-3 billing cycles” 6-12 weeks! Cash flow at its best.

  • Nduckma

    This doesn’t have anything to do with Expedia, but I can’t get a refund/credit or even cancel my trip through Allegiant Airlines.  They said that I had to cancel a day earlier than I did.  I can take the trip (which I can’t) or say good bye to $690.00.