The Travel Troubleshooter: Am I stuck with this $378 phone bill?

Question: I’ve been haggling with Travelocity for almost three months about a flight, and I need your help. I recently booked flights from Newark, N.J., to Madrid, Spain via Continental Airlines and on to my final destination of Barcelona, Spain, via Iberia.

The outbound trip was completed without issue, although I had to claim my baggage in Madrid, go through customs, and go back through the ticketing counter to get my second boarding pass.

Unfortunately, the return trip through Brussels was less successful. The itinerary that Travelocity sold me left me just one hour to make my connecting flight in Brussels to the U.S., but I had to claim a bag, go through customs, and then back to the ticketing counter again to get my boarding pass for the U.S.-bound flight.

When I arrived at the empty Continental ticket counter approximately 35 minutes before my flight, I managed to track down a Continental customer service agent, who refused to check me in because it was too late. She also told me the next flight was the following morning.

When I tried to dial the number provided by Travelocity for assistance outside of the U.S., the number would not connect. I tried multiple phones in the airport. Without other options, I collect called my fiancee in the U.S. and had her call the domestic Travelocity telephone number and after more than 30 minutes of international telephone calls, I was booked on the flight for the following morning.

My problem with this scenario is that I incurred a telephone bill of $378 in order to correct this situation caused by Travelocity selling me an itinerary that was physically impossible to achieve. Travelocity won’t refund my phone bill. Any ideas? — Jeffrey Grim, Boston

Answer: Travelocity shouldn’t have allowed you to reserve the itinerary that you did.

If your flights were connected on the same itinerary (which they appear to be) then the system should stop you from reserving a flight that doesn’t meet the minimum connect time rules. Something appears to have gone wrong, because you obviously didn’t have enough time to transfer to your overseas flight in Brussels.

Travelocity also should have provided you with a number that worked from Brussels. I think you did your best to contact the online travel agency through normal channels before resorting to an expensive collect call. And yes, calling Travelocity was the best option, since this was an immediate concern. Had it been something less urgent, I would recommend sending an email.

But I think you could have prevented this from happening, too. Did you take a moment to read your itinerary after you booked your tickets? If you had, you might have noticed the short connection times, and could have asked Travelocity to fix it. One hour is barely enough time to change planes domestically, so this is a challenge that could have been identified and addressed long before your trip.

You had a second chance to fix this when you experienced a tight connection on your inbound flight. You might have wondered if the connection problem would happen on your return flight, reviewed your itinerary and contact Travelocity.

It’s unusual for an online travel agency to refund a phone bill, but in this case, I think it should consider doing so, at a minimum. I contacted Travelocity on your behalf. It apologized and agreed to refund your phone bill.

  • Tony A.

    Carver, are you now clear on this?
    Bodega and I are seeing “clearer” than most of you since we are using a GDS and you are not. We are seeing the flight segments (married or not) offered by a GDS between EWR and BCN. We can request the GDS to show us EWR-MAD-BCN and BCN-BRU-EWR flights. We can query the GDS for Minimum Connection Times in BRU. We can try to create a similar itinerary that the OP had and check it.
    In other words Bodega and I can do things YOU CANNOT DO because you don’t have a GDS. Also we know how to use our GDS and that is very important since that requires SKILL.

    Only until about a decade ago, travel agents actually went to school. They needed to be certified to use a GDS and ARC. Now, many so-called “agents” don’t even know the basic rules. These idiots are not travel agents, they are booking clerks. Sorry. In fact so many of them are not even in the USA. When you call an OTA, you often talk to someone overseas. You think someone would certify those folks, right?
    And then we have those who rely on the internet (an internet) to do almost everything. Well guess what? When problems occur, you need to go back to human beings to fix them.

  • Tony A.

    Correction: Not Expedia, it was Travelocity.

  • Carver

    again, help me connect the dots.

    You are convinced based upon your GDS system that the OP purchased two tickets.  This is the forensics that you did. You are probably correct.  But the ticket(s) will give you that same information.

    If he purchased one SINGLE ticket then any problems are the fault of travelocity. Yes?

    If he purchased multiple tickets, then any ticketing problems are his own as that permits him to circumvent the MCT requirements. 

    Now whether the ticket(s) did or did noot violate the MCT is a diffeent issue.

    Is that a fair recapping of the OPs situation?

  • Carver

    Let’s leave ad hominems out of this.  They serve no purpose.

    Regarding Agents:  Yes I know that travelocity is a travel agent in the proper sense of the word.  However, in any forum, terms of art get defined by common usage within the forum..  In this travel agent laden forum, travelocity is never referred to as a travel agent. It is usually referred to as a booking site, or more derisively as a online vending machine.

    The term agent, in the forum, is generally limited to a live person, at a brick and mortar place, with expertise and training, much like yourself.

    No one is saying it is easy to be a TA.  Not sure where you got that.  Not sure why you brought up my CS past, but in programming (back in the day), I’d use a database to store my MCTs.

    What I am saying is that a determination of whether travelocity is at fault or the OP doesn’t require a professional travel agent.

  • Carver

    I reread part of the post.

    Part of the issue is that we keep talking about different things.  My SFO to RDU post was for one purpose only.  Illustrating that it is reasonable for me to rely on whoever creates the flights to only present me with legal connections.  I’m not a TA nor do I wish to be one.  I don’t want to have to learn MCTs for different travel situations.

    I expect that whether I book using AA.com, Expedia, or even with you, the MCT will be respected.

  • Tony A.

    Carver,

    The party that put together the flights is the guilty party.

    Travelocity *may* have put them together and sold them as ONE solution to the OP.
    -OR-
    The OP *could have* bought separate flights on Travelocity on his own.

    If Elliott or the OP can prove to us that Travelocity PUT HIS TRIP ALL TOGETHER then my finger will point at Travelocity.

    I don’t understand why the OP or Elliott cannot or does not want to provide more information. Where is their TRANSPARENCY?

  • Tony A.

    With me it will because I know what I am doing. I check the MCT table, period.

  • Tony A.

    You can call Travelocity, pay a telephone booking fee, and they will act “like” a brick and mortar TA. The term travel agent nowadays is so “amorphous” – so just define them a someone or something that the airline appoints to sell tickets.

    There is no point to store the MCT in your own database because you risk using stale data. Best to access the OAG itself or some GDS that accesses OAG for you.

    If you were in court trying to prove Travelocity screwed up, would you rather have a blogger or a travel professional be your expert witness?

  • Sershev

    Iberia and Continental probably have interline agreement which allows totransfer your bags from one airline to another without claiming them in BRU. With that you would have enough time to make your connection

  • Tony A.

    The Iberia flights from BCN to BRU are CODESHARED!!! They are really operated by Vueling.  Vueling & CO/UA do not have an etkt/baggage agreement.
    This is what is so confusing with CODESHARE!!! You must know the operating carrier.

  • Bodega

    Sorry but offense was taken. 

    Our industry is alive and well but so is Chris’ business thanks to DIY’ers.  I don’t care if you book your ticket online or use a TA.  What I do care about is the knowledge DIY’ers think they have because they do a point and click search but really don’t understand what they are actually getting and why.  The comments on WN alone show that most don’t understand how airline pricing works. 

  • Bodega

    When I know more than the agent at the Agency Desk of a carier, located in Asia of course, it scares me.  These are suppose to be the best of their agents and that is now such a joke.  A few months ago, twice I got US based agents and I cried with joy!

    I’ll never forget standing next to a AA Eagle gate agent and seeing that she was less than capable on the comupter.  Scary!

  • Bill

    I find the phone bill amount to be excessive..don’t really understand why it was so much.

    They sell cheap prepaid phone cards all over the place. 

  • Anonymous

    Chris, this guy keeps posting nonsense just to have his link on your site. 

  • Michael K

    Tony A: Just curious, have you considered the possibility that the return legs were on Brussels Airlines (UAL codeshare back in July, arrived 8:40am) + Continental BRU to EWR (departed 9:45am)?  That scenario would be consistent with the OP’s report of a one hour connection.  He mentions using Iberia MAD to BCN, but not necessarily BCN to BRU.

  • TomRI

    UA called me when they found I had a short connect time in LAX from term 7 to international term and changed my flight. They required 1.5 hours there they said i was at an 1h 15min.  So I left from home an hour earlier that morning.  If i was not on FC I would have asked for a pass for the lounge at that time. Good will call I for getting up an hour early.

  • TomRI

    $378 is not excessive.  It is called collect for a reason.  The phone compies collect your money from your wallet.  There is a min fee a service fee, and the rates are high.  He wanted to get a fast call toTravelocity and he did not want to find a calling card, find a payphone that takes credit cards, find a computer that has skype, he wanted ACTION.  What if he could be put on another star alliance plane on the next flight out?  As the judges always say “you take your victiums as they come”   Meaning if the does not have the brains, cheapness to go that route then Travelocity  needs to pay the way he goes

  • tomRI

    Or he could have got on a US, UA flight in an hour ??

  • tomRI

    “ a one-hour connection in Brussels is doable if you and your bags are already checked in “  BUT his bags were not checked in, were they? He pulled them off the belt, then showed them at customs then into security with them, then checked in. ALL THIS IN 25 MIN.  CO requires 60-90 depending on the airport and you must be 30 min before at the gate.  THUS HE NEVER WAS ABLE TO CHECK IN 60 MIN BEFORE DEPARTURE.

  • Tony A.

    Mike K, that’s why I asked the OP or Chris to ID the flight between BCN and BRU, but they didn’t. My GDS cannot look back at historical July skeds so currently the earliest SN flight is SN3696 BCNBRU- 910A 1120A. That would be in too late to catch the BRU-EWR flight of UA/CO.

    But let’s say that is the case. Then since SN is in the same alliance as CO, they would have allowed baggage check through. That said there SHOULD NOT have been a problem since the SN segment would likely be together with the CO ticket. He would not have had to call Travelocity since CO will reaccommodate him.

    Mike the only early flight I can find for SN is MAD-BRU – SN3732   MADBRU- 640A 905A. I don’t think the OP went back to Madrid to catch this flight.

    I am highly suspicious that he did not use a Star Alliance carrier from BCN-BRU.

  • Tony A.

    Mike K, that’s why I asked the OP or Chris to ID the flight between BCN and BRU, but they didn’t. My GDS cannot look back at historical July skeds so currently the earliest SN flight is SN3696 BCNBRU- 910A 1120A. That would be in too late to catch the BRU-EWR flight of UA/CO.

    But let’s say that is the case. Then since SN is in the same alliance as CO, they would have allowed baggage check through. That said there SHOULD NOT have been a problem since the SN segment would likely be together with the CO ticket. He would not have had to call Travelocity since CO will reaccommodate him.

    Mike the only early flight I can find for SN is MAD-BRU – SN3732   MADBRU- 640A 905A. I don’t think the OP went back to Madrid to catch this flight.

    I am highly suspicious that he did not use a Star Alliance carrier from BCN-BRU.

  • Tony A.

    Mike,  I think it is flight SN3708 630AM-840AM.
    That said, that would have been a “LEGAL” connection.
    And there SHOULD have been no problem with the baggage check through.
    I can’t find that flight today so I don’t know what happened to it.

  • Tony A.

    Mike,  I think it is flight SN3708 630AM-840AM.
    That said, that would have been a “LEGAL” connection.
    And there SHOULD have been no problem with the baggage check through.
    I can’t find that flight today so I don’t know what happened to it.

  • Michael K

    My source is flightstats.com which has historical flight information.  I spot-checked Jun 15 and Jul 15 (since the OP wrote to Chris “almost 3 months” after his flight).  On both of those dates UAL 9952 (a Brussels Airlines codeshare) operated BCN->BRU with a scheduled arrival of 8:40am.  And on both dates, CO61 was scheduled to depart BRU for EWR at 9:45am.

  • Michael K

    Yes, SN3708 was codeshared as UAL 9952 in June and July.  Can’t say why there would have been a baggage check-through problem (merger issues possibly?)

  • Tony A.

    Yes, same here,  I went to flightstats and flightaware to dig up the old flights. SN3708 and CO61 could have been “legally” put together *IF* the 65 mins MCT was met. It was met: 840AM to 945AM.

    But as I said, SN3708 (UA codeshare does not mean anything) combined with UA/CO BRU-EWR is sold as part of the A++ Joint Venture and therefore check-in and baggage SHOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE. And assuming he was late for the BRU flight, the CO would reaccommodate him since he he would have been on a CO ticket and EC261 would protect him.

    This is why I suspect the OP took a non-Star Alliance airline from BCN to BRU (possibly on a separate ticket). He had to claim and re-check his baggage causing him to miss the CO61 flight. The only flights left to pick are from Vueling (codeshared by Iberia).

    Mike, the OP’s routing is so weird that it’s really not worth to speculate any further unless they tell us exactly what flights they took. If it’s true that Travelocity BUNDLED the flights as VY/IB BCN-BRU to CO/UA BRU-EWR then they should have paid for his hotel, meals and the phone call. Otherwise, if the OP bought 2 tickets on his own from Travelocity and put them together, then it’s his fault.

  • Asiansm Dan

    Totally agree about LHR, the worst connecting Airport in the world. The second worst is CDG.
    I was FAST TRACK and it took more than 1h30mn to connect. And LHR Airport fee is exaggerated.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/philip.brown.12576 Philip Brown

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    Philip C. Brown
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