Oops, you missed a scratch on the roof

Question: I hope you can help me with a dubious repair bill I received. I rented a car from Enterprise in Newark recently, and we did a cursory walk-around inspection with the agent in the rain.

The agent did not mark the “no damage” box on the contract, but I did not see any damage, either. When I returned the car three weeks later in Manhattan, the Enterprise employee did not tell us there was damage, but a supervisor told me there was a scratch on the roof. I couldn’t see it until I opened the car door and stood on the sill.

I told the supervisor I had never been asked to check the roof on a rental car, and that the Newark agent had not asked me to. The supervisor said she “agreed with me” regarding the agent error and would ask her regional manager to help us out. We were promised a call back within 48 hours. No one called.

We got a bill for $600, including three days of loss-of-use and eight hours of repair work for something that definitely does not need to be fixed, and that we did not cause. When I asked for documentation, the recovery agent sent me pictures of long, wide scratches on two different cars, not the car we returned. This is truly an attempt to rip off the customer! — Sandy Lamke, Mill Valley, Calif.

Answer: That must have been some scratch on the roof! When the Enterprise supervisor discovered the damage, you would have been asked to sign a form acknowledging the scratch and agreeing to pay for it. After that, the car rental company should have sent you a repair bill and documentation, including a photo of the car. Not any car.

You were correct to be skeptical of the $600 repair bill when it was apparently done to another car. Based on what you told me about the damage, I think the bill you received was a little high, if not entirely unwarranted. Also, the supervisor gave you a reason to think the scratch existed before you rented the car. The wrong-car photo only reinforced your belief that the bill was bogus.

These frivolous damage claims are nothing new to the car rental industry. Sometimes, I think car rental companies aren’t even in the business of renting cars, but of making money from damage claims. Interestingly, before they’re rented, several car rental firms have begun photographing their cars, which should dramatically cut back on the number of wrongful claims by car rental companies.

I like the way you handled the initial problem. Speaking with a supervisor is the best way of getting your bill adjusted. If Enterprise had followed up with a promised call, you might be free and clear now. I’m not entirely sure why it didn’t phone you back.

When the bill arrived, you had a few options. A polite dispute (clearly, if someone had taken the time to carefully consider your claim, it would have probably been dismissed) and if that didn’t work, then an appeal to Enterprise at the corporate level with copies to the insurance commissioner in the state the car was rented in, might have worked. As a last-ditch effort, you could have disputed your credit card bill or taken Enterprise to small claims court to recover the $600 you would have been charged.

Fortunately, it never came to that. I contacted Enterprise on your behalf, and it dropped its claim.

  • jobin

    I am not surprised. RAC stands for Rip-off A Customer not Rent A Car..

  • MVFlyer

    Enterprise is particularly anal-retentive about checking their cars for damage before and after rentals, at least at the in-town locations. I think that this outlet should be reported to corporate for making up damage…producing pictures of other cars is lying, plain and simple.

  • Chris in NC

    Wow! This seems to not be Enterprise’s week on elliott.org! Seriously, I’m speechless. I’m very careful about checking for damage, and I don’t think I have ever checked the roof. In fact, I just looked at the photos I took of car rentals this year and I don’t have a roof photo.

    The only think I can say is, thanks for informing me of something to be careful of. Next time, I will check the roof!

  • dhm

    Given that she had to “open the door and stand on the sill” to see the scratch, and the photos sent were obviously of another car, I wouldn’t be surprised if she is not the first, or the last, person to be charged for “fixing” that particular scratch.

  • Bill

    Believe it or not, for at least the last couple of years, I have been checkng the roof.
    I have found damage on the roof too.

    If things keep going this way, we are all going to have to get the rental cars checked out by a mechanic before we leave the lot.

  • http://www.crankradios.net Jason

    What about damage due to attempted theft? Was on trip to Texas and relative’s car was victim to attempted break-in. I know this is a bit off topic, but what would her liability be? She did report to police and hotel.

  • Dang

    I just gave up on car-rental and use more taxi and limousine for other reason : the fees and the taxes.
    10 years ago, I rented around 7 days a month because I hava government rate and use Diners Club for the insurance coverage. Nowadays, I rent once every 3 months. I don’t take insurance because of Diners Club coverage but still the fees and the taxes from local government and the rental companies exceed the rental daily rate.
    I must say I still get excellent service for AVIS Preferred Service and HERTZ Gold service

  • Rose

    What an ordeal car rental has become! I check the car carefully & insist the agent note everything, esp. since Enterprise attempted to collect for “damage” that I was able to rub out with a moistened finger-tip! But I have yet to meet an agent who will just list dings. Instead I hear: they would never claim damage for anything that small, a scratch has to be bigger than a template he shows me, other customers are waiting . . . . It really shouldn’t take a lot of emotional fortitude just to rent a car for 3 days, but if I don’t grit my teeth and insist on absurdly minute notations at pick-up, then I spend my trip with back-of-the-mind worry about the ambush at drop-off. Is there a company that is not in the car repair scam business? Hertz?

  • Diana Mirabello

    I somehow doubt they fix every tiny ding right away, hence the reason they refuse to note dings. Most of the time, dings are probably not an issue. When the car has enough dings that they want to fix them, that they probably just try and collect from whoever was unlucky enough to have rented the car last.

  • http://Disputed$600scratch Rosa Maria Montenegro

    This article in the Palm Beach Post, West Palm Beach, Fl. of Sunday, Sept. 5 led me to write you about a situation with my sister in law who lives in San Diego County, .California. She left her Audi to be serviced at the local Audi dealer while they rented her a car. She only drove home and went nowhere with the car. When her Audi had been released to her she returned the rental and thought it was perfectly Ok. Since they had moved from their home in Fallbrook to Vista, Ca., it turned out they had sent her a claim for the damage and did not get it. She did not receive the notification from the dealership and did not become aware of the incident until the dealership went to Court and got a judgment against her.
    She finally received the Court’s judgment and was informed she owed the dealership $1800 f0r something she did not do.
    What recourse does she have for something that seems terribly unfair and unjust. My sister in law’s name is Loretta Mayer and their email address is: jmmontenegro 13@yahoo.com Times are very difficult and they can ill afford to pay for something she did not do. Can you suggest some solution? She has 10 days to respond. They had given her 30 but she only found out recently. Mr. Elliott, thank you veyr much. I would appreciate a response.

    b

  • EricR

    @Rosa Maria Montenegro – are you kidding me? Posting your sister-in-law’s private, personal information on a public, high-traffic website for the world to see? Thank goodness you’re not related to me – I’d be terrified to ever tell you anything! If you have a private problem you’d like Chris to mediate, write him directly in the future!

  • Linda

    How many times can a rental car company collect for a scratch/dent before the actual damage is repaired? I’ve been doing very throrough documentation of every scratch/dent on a car before I take it out and just wonder how many times they’ve collected for the damage and it’s not repaired. Seems to me that every State’s Attny Gen Ofc should step in and say they repair the damage the FIRST time they collect on the damage and prove it so they don’t gouge the next renter. This just seems like fraud to me when they don’t use the money collected to repair the damaged vehicle.

  • Rosanne Fisher

    I rented a car at Enterprise on July 27, 2010 It was a Volvo. I rented it in Oakland N.J.. I have rented many cars from them at that location plus Paramus, N.J. I am a very good customer never had a problem with them. this time when I rented I was asked as usual “do I want Insurance?” because I was renting for 1 to maybe 4 weeks and only me and my husband would be driving it. I said no I will use our own Ins. Fine the young man who I was talking to printed up what he had to print up and then put the contract down and circled some boxes and said sign here next to the circles I did .
    we went out to the car he was quick because he was not feeling well, he had been sick. anyway checked out the car the hood the doors and the back and trunk. The car was fine no damage. some chips on the bumper that’s about it. I went home and found out I would need the car longer so I called and told them another week and it could be longer. Now in the meantime my credit card was being charged large amounts of money and the credit co. would inform me about it. So I would call them as ask why are you charging me so much money over th $319.99? Well I would get a lot of double talk about fees and I could never get a straight answer I called another location and asked why I would be paying so much, this guy was very nice and said you are paying $19.99 Per DAY for INS. I said what , I called them and told them I never wanted the Ins. Well they gave more double talk and then I got my contract that he had put in the visor in the car. and saw that. Over and above $319.99 was a $140 for Ins. per week plus all the other fees. I would never spend that for a car per week. I called them and told them that. I have the car one month all together and brought it back. I said I want that money back it came to $567.00 She said no you can’t have it back. I said what. I never asked for Inc. I was paying for this car not my Ins co. I would never take that ins for this length of time.
    Now she said I am going out to inspect the car. So I waited inside and thought when she sees how clean the is, it looks like new. She comes in and saids ” I found a dent” I said what, take me outside there is no dent on that car. She takes me to the bottom front bumper and mind you there is no dent at all. She said run your hand over don’t you feel a crese? What! No paint was removed nothing, I said you have got to be kidding! Some man was walking by and I said “Sir could you come here and look at this bumper please do you see a dent or anything?? He said NO. I said two people don’t see the dent. this girl is saying to me “don’t believe your eyes” I could not believe she had to find some reason to justify keeping $567.00. Had the nerve to charge my credit card over and above the $1,650.00. It cost me $2,217.00 for one month renting. then I receive a letter in the mail asking if I were hurt from the accident to let them know. What a bunch of crap. I called them immediately to let them know that she is pulling a scam on me. She said the bumper had to be replaced. I am not letting this go. There was nothing wrong with that car. I called and told them I will not let this go. This person should not be running a business because she is a lier. She calls me up and said it only coust $326.00, for a bumper?.. I called volvo dealers and the bumper is between $750 to $805 plus labor. Nothing was done to that car. I told them I want to see a picture of the car before and after. I am so angry. I happen to be a very good customer of their’s to. I have never had a problem. I will not stop until I get that money back. What a scam and what fraud this person is committing .

  • TH

    I have similar experience about car rental

    I rented a car from Dollar rent-a-car at Seattle airport. At the counter, the agent asked me if I like to buy full coverage insurance which will cost me $40 a day. I think this is way too much of a money so I refused.

    When I returned the rental car, the inspector spoted a tiny chipping on the wind shield and he used the car key to scratch it to make it bigger and more noticeable. He then walked inside and came out with an accident report asking me to file it. The chipping is so tiny and people usually will not even pay attention to it. this is a two days and one night rental and the total milage is about 40 miles and the car was parked in a covered parking structure, so there is no chance of being damaged in the night time and I do not recall any flying object hitting the car.

    To me it feel likes pay me $40 a day or I will make you pay a brand new car

  • NotAnEnterpriseFan

    I recently had a similar situation with Enterprise at Newark.  Mine was a short crease along the fender well that I never noticed until it was pointed out on my return of the car.  Difficult to see on a dark blue vehicle and certainly not something that would be repaired.  They have sent me a bill for $484…but no photo.

  • Julie

    Like several here, I have gotten a damage claim notice where there was no scratch or dents and the supposed “damage” was an uneven panel on the door.  When I rented the car, it was parked between two others and the agent simply walked around (and noted paint scratched off on front and rear bumpers). 

     When I dropped it off, the agent went over the car with a fine tooth comb, standing away from the car walking back and forth (as if looking for something he knew was there); then he said there was damage. This time the car was parked by itself and in the sunlight.  I myself only saw what looked like an uneven panel door — not a scratch or dent.

    I think I was targeted since the agent talked me into taking this car instead of the one I reserved. As well he asked me about my comprehensive insurance coverage, even though I had rented from Enterprise before several times and never had damage. Too, they had the car parked between cars where uneven panel could not be noted.  I will NEVER rent from them again and am disputing the claim.

    I think because they know our insurance companies will cover it and the credit card companies will cover the deductible, it is easy money for rental companies.