Hey, that’s no four-star hotel!

Question: I recently booked a hotel in Prague through Expedia. While perusing the hotels online, I saw an advertisement for an unpublished rate hotel. I clicked the advertisement and was presented with three four-star hotels from which to choose.

Based on the amenities and price, I chose the four-star hotel that was offered for $58 a night. I paid for the three rooms and then was shown the hotel name and class.

The class was only three-star. I couldn’t believe it.

Thankfully, I made screen captures of the offer and the result. I immediately sent an email to Expedia’s customer service department, explaining what happened. It replied with a short notice saying all sales were final. I then replied that this was not an issue of wanting money back or a change, but of getting what I paid for, namely: a four-star hotel.

The next response I received was infuriating. I was told Expedia was unable to verify the change in star rating. I then responded with the screen shots. In each instance, I was told to call in to discuss the matter.

No sir, I want this on the record.

I am very unhappy at the moment. I work on Kandahar Airfield in Afghanistan, and I take my vacation time very seriously. I want Expedia to either give me the four-star hotel I paid for or refund my money immediately. Can you help? — Albert Muick, Kandahar, Afghanistan

Answer: If you paid for a four-star hotel, you should have received a four-star hotel. Problem is, no one can really agree on what a four-star hotel is — or isn’t. There’s no high court of hotel stars, no international governing body. As far as I can tell, if I call something a four-star hotel, it is a four-star hotel.

But wait, you made screen shots? Nice work. You insisted on conducting your correspondence by email? Even better!

Keeping meticulous records on your grievance can ensure a fast resolution. And when it doesn’t — well, that’s where I come in.

I’m kind of surprised Expedia shot a form response back to you and then, after you replied, sent another one. Come on. Is anyone reading these emails?

You might have tried a brief, polite appeal to an Expedia executive. I list their names on my consumer advocacy wiki, On Your Side. That might — or might not — have worked.

This is a textbook case of a traveler doing almost everything right, but still unable to get a fair resolution.

I hope this is one of those rare times when Expedia just didn’t bother to carefully read your concise, well-crafted email. I say this because I haven’t had that many Expedia complaints recently, so I hope it’s an anomaly.

I contacted Expedia on your behalf. It reviewed your grievance and found that a “system error” occurred when you made your reservation. You’ve received a full refund.

(Photo: Moyan_Brenn/Flickr)

  • TonyA_says

    You must have a close guarded list of hotels and restaurants. That’s valuable to people who expect quality when they travel. #1 reason to use a travel agent. DIYs rely on trip advisor. Good luck to them.

  • TonyA_says

    If someone came to me and asked me to find [even a] 3 star hotel near the center of London for $58 a night, do you think I will even try? Get real.

  • Sadie_Cee

    At last someone is on to something.  The $58 per night price should have been a signal.  I have stayed at hotels in off-the-beaten track towns in Europe and have paid almost two times as much.  Prague is a major city.  It would have been helpful to do some research at other sites to find out about the hotel situation in Prague.  One thing I cannot understand is why Expedia would not reveal the name of the hotel until after payment had been made.  Is this acceptable business practice anywhere?

  • DavidYoung2

    I don’t.  Ever.  

    If you choose to buy a pig in a poke, well, that’s what you get.

  • Miami510

    For every story about a marvelous hotel find for a low price, there are dozens of stories of disappointment.  Everyone loves a bargain, but the old caveat is most often true:  If something seems too good to be true… it probably is.
     
    There are lots of star ratings.  There are ratings by reputable travel guides, ratings by travel organizations, and ratings…. well… by the Slippery Gulch Mt. Chamber of Commerce.

  • http://twitter.com/ElmoClarity Elmo Clarity

    People need to learn that the star rating on places like Expedia, HotWire, Orbitz, Hotel.com, etc, have absolutely *NOTHING* to do with quality but is a way of comparing amenities between properties.  For example, if a property has a pool, they get a star for it.  Doesn’t matter the condition of the pool.  It could have been sitting empty for several years, but since there is a pool they get a star.

  • RadioResearch

    OP (Albert Muick) here.  It’s really interesting how many negative comments I seem to have gathered for simply standing up and demanding what I was sold.  It should be noted this occurred nearly 10 months ago!  I also did contact executives at Expedia and was skillfully ignored by them and that’s where Chris stepped in and helped.  Oh, and I *did* find a very nice Czech-rated 3.5 star hotel in the old town for $68/night with breakfast (!) for my three cousins who met me there from the USA.  They are not wealthy, and I was glad to be able to treat them to a vacation.

    I have been arranging my own travel and traveling for the last 20 years and have never had the problems as suddenly exist in recent years.  I could spend 30 days legally in the US per year without losing my tax free status, but I do prefer traveling to Europe and the Far East versus coming back home.  I am fortunate to be able to do this.  I am also out of Afghanistan now and working elsewhere.

    I really hope that everyone has success with their travel arrangements and enjoys their holidays.  I personally would beware of travel “professionals” who spend their time posting on these blogs, denigrating people who request Chris’ assistance to resolve their travel issues.  They apparently do not have enough business to keep themselves busy!  I am not a “greedy fool” by any stretch of the imagination.  I would like to think that savings are appreciated by everyone, and that Expedia might be considered a reputable name to be considered for purchasing from.  Perhaps those who would have us believe they know it all might consider dropping Chris tips for his use, instead of belittling others in the comments section.  It does bother me, but it’s rather laughable.

    Thanks for the help, Chris!

  • RadioResearch

    OP (Albert Muick) here.  It’s really interesting how many negative comments I seem to have gathered for simply standing up and demanding what I was sold.  It should be noted this occurred nearly 10 months ago!  I also did contact executives at Expedia and was skillfully ignored by them and that’s where Chris stepped in and helped.  Oh, and I *did* find a very nice Czech-rated 3.5 star hotel in the old town for $68/night with breakfast (!) for my three cousins who met me there from the USA.  They are not wealthy, and I was glad to be able to treat them to a vacation.

    I have been arranging my own travel and traveling for the last 20 years and have never had the problems as suddenly exist in recent years.  I could spend 30 days legally in the US per year without losing my tax free status, but I do prefer traveling to Europe and the Far East versus coming back home.  I am fortunate to be able to do this.  I am also out of Afghanistan now and working elsewhere.

    I really hope that everyone has success with their travel arrangements and enjoys their holidays.  I personally would beware of travel “professionals” who spend their time posting on these blogs, denigrating people who request Chris’ assistance to resolve their travel issues.  They apparently do not have enough business to keep themselves busy!  I am not a “greedy fool” by any stretch of the imagination.  I would like to think that savings are appreciated by everyone, and that Expedia might be considered a reputable name to be considered for purchasing from.  Perhaps those who would have us believe they know it all might consider dropping Chris tips for his use, instead of belittling others in the comments section.  It does bother me, but it’s rather laughable.

    Thanks for the help, Chris!

  • bodega3

    Please understand Albert that those of us in the travel profession who come here, share tips for those of you who screw up in your reservations.  I do use the term screw up because, nowhere do I read that you researched the hotel to verify it was a 4 star.  Also, you wrote Chris, but if you had actually followed his column, you have known that OTA all have their own ratings and they are not the same.  This is where my De ja vu comment comes from.  I can honestly tell you that OTA don’t have the best pricing.  They may have good pricing, but not the best.

  • RadioResearch

     Well, sir, I can’t control what Chris writes.  I am not his editor.  Further, one cannot research the hotel until after the opaque site reveals it.  This was an Expedia opaque sale.  After it was revealed, I then checked it out, finding that even Expedia and Hotwire rated it as a three-star!   Do you now understand that the site that sold it to me as a four-star, Expedia, rated the hotel at below the star rating at which it offered it?  So, my professional friend, I did my due diligence after I discovered the fraud, and I do not feel like I “screwed up” in any way.  Perhaps you were confused with the article or didn’t read it thoroughly.  No matter, you are entitled to your opinion, and are free to spew it forth, irregardless of how erroneous it may be, and how it might reflect on your name and your business, which I note you were careful not to mention.

  • Jeanne_in_NE

    Thanks for all the help from Mark, Linda and Tony.  Now my husband wants to know about FITs (which I had to go look up!) vs. the tour we have in mind. 
     
    I’ll have to go check things out when I get back from our upcoming trip.  (As an aside, it’s $55/night for valet parking at the hotel we’re staying at in Chicago.  For a few bucks more, I could have had a nice stay in Prague!)

  • bodega3

    You never stated you used an opague search on Expedia.  I didn’t even know that existed with Expedia, only with a couple of others. You only stated an unpublished rate which doesn’t make sense and a term that isn’t normally used in the industry for hotel rates.  What you need to know and are finding out is that ratings are not regulated with vendors.  A 3 star with one is a 2 star with another and a 4 star with still another.  While Prague has great hotels and good nightly rates, a 4 star for the price you saw should have raise a concern and doing a bit of homework might have saved you the trouble you have had to deal with.  People screw up with online travel arrangements all the time.  Read past articles of Chris’ and you will see you are not alone. 

  • bodega3

    You do feel like you are paying a motel rate for that parking space for your car in major cities!

  • VicBus

    Thats bad. They should have given you a refund. Some travel agencies do not give real facts.

    http://vicbus.com

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OEPJGQPIEB75YYDE5CJY6R3VFE Carver Clark Farrow II

    Yes, it is the model of the so-called opaque site.  You don’t know the name of the hotel until after you purchase and in theory you buy distressed inventory at huge discounts.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OEPJGQPIEB75YYDE5CJY6R3VFE Carver Clark Farrow II

    Yeah, but you don’t know how the hotel rates in the official classifications until after you’ve purchased the hotel room.  That’s the problem, at least as I understand it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OEPJGQPIEB75YYDE5CJY6R3VFE Carver Clark Farrow II

    Meebo

    Before you call insult someone you should have your facts straight.  Check on biddingfortravel.com shows the Hilton Prague at $63 which according to Tripadvisor receives  a rating so 4 1/2 rating.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OEPJGQPIEB75YYDE5CJY6R3VFE Carver Clark Farrow II

    The OP’s position is reasonable.  With an Opaque site, one’s opportunity for research is limited.  Basically its biddingfortravel.com.  That site shows that the OP’s price point was within what others had gotten.  Thus there was no reason to believe that his bid was too good to be true.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OEPJGQPIEB75YYDE5CJY6R3VFE Carver Clark Farrow II

    Check biddingfortravel.com.  The OP’s price was reasonable.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OEPJGQPIEB75YYDE5CJY6R3VFE Carver Clark Farrow II

    Actually bodego

    Its fairly well known that Expedia has rates which are only known after you purchase.  The OP correctly used Expedia’s term ”unpublished rate” to mean that hotel is only revealed after the purchase.

    Here is the exact language used.

    “Expedia Unpublished Rates Hotels Deep discounts on quality hotels Get the deal now – and the hotel name after you book”

    More importantly, Biddingfortravel.com lists the winning bids for Priceline’s/hotwire’s opaque hotels.  Right now someone got the 5* Hilton Prague Old Town for $63 cash plus $7 funny money.

    So, as I see it, and correct me if I am wrong, the OP didn’t screw up his trip in the slightest.

  • bodega3

    As I see it, anyone who uses an opague sites gets what they deserve and has no right to complain…but they do.

  • MarkKelling

    I have seen that issue of the hotels not being so good on a couple of their trips too.  The one in Brussels looked like a homeless shelter.  On the other hand, the hotels chosen in Scandinavia were the best ever and would rate 4 stars in most guide books.

    I think part of the issue is that they don’t check their chosen hotels yearly and things can change very quickly.  After all, can one person visit all of Europe every year?  Hope you have a great trip.

  • MarkKelling

    I stayed in the Belgravia area of London at a small family run hotel (more of a B&B than hotel) recommended by the tour operator and spent a total of 99 pounds a night in 2010.  Had lots of other choices in the area and could have spent a lot more, but why? I didn’t need the amenities of a chain hotel and was happy with my small but comfortable room. 

    It was only a couple blocks to Victoria station so had easy access to transportation, had a nice hot breakfast included daily, some of the friendliest staff I have every found at a hotel, and was on a quiet street.  It was also the same street but different hotel the tour operator had us stay for the tour.

  • TonyA_says

    Belgravia is an expensive area. I’m surprised there is something there below 100BP.

    I’m with you – all I want is a clean room, bed, bathroom and shower. Perhaps a small breakfast room. I don’t use gyms, spas, pools, etc. even when I am in [real] five star hotels unless they are on the beach and I have nothing else to do except sleep by the pool.

    For me the star ratings are pretty deceiving. A boutique hotel won’t have the extra amenities  to make it to the high ratings but they can be very comfortable and centrally located.

    I’m taking notes, what is that hotel you used (if you don’t mind telling us)?

  • Sadie_Cee

    Thanks @Carver Clark Farrow II for the information.  With this in mind, why on earth do we continue doing business with these ‘opaque sites?’  Mainly rhetorical..,I believe i know the answer. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OEPJGQPIEB75YYDE5CJY6R3VFE Carver Clark Farrow II

    As long as the opaque site delivers what was promised then we are in agreement.  However, that’s a red herring as that’s not at issue in this matter.  The opaque site didn’t deliver what was promised to the OP, and the OP was perfectly reasonable in believing the rate presented to the him was accurate as any amount of research would have shown.  In this matter we cannot blame the OP

  • bodega3

    I disagree that you should trust any rating without taking responsibility and researching on your own.  So if you use an opague site, then you are using that sites rating unless noted otherwise and as such you take your chances.  I diagree with movie critics who rate film and I have disagreed with food critics, too.  It is all subjective.  Lesson to be learned, if you use on opague site, don’t complain as most will not have pity on you.

  • bodega3

    Oh, oh, can I answer that?  Because stupidity over rules common sense in many people.

  • bodega3

    I all depends on the purpose of the stay.  For our driving trips, we just need a clean, safe place to stay.  For flying trips that we are visiting the area for sightseeing purposes, something clean and safe is also what we want.  A few extra amenties is considered for both of these like breakfast, shuttle, internet. However for a lenghly stay in Hawaii we want a nice pool, good beach, exercise room, access to other activites. We do not like B & B’s as we like to come and go at all hours and don’t wish to bother the host.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OEPJGQPIEB75YYDE5CJY6R3VFE Carver Clark Farrow II

     Come on people, be charitable.  Some folks have gotten really good deals using opaque travel sites.  Like anything else different business models work for different people.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OEPJGQPIEB75YYDE5CJY6R3VFE Carver Clark Farrow II

    Bodega

    I think I understand the disconnect based upon your last post.  This is not a situation of buyer’s remorse.  It’s not the the opaque site stated that the hotel was a 4 star hotel but another rating agency, say AAA, only give it three Diamonds.  In that case the OP would be SOL because Expedia is entitled to rate the hotel as it sees fit.

    The issue here is that prior to booking Expedia claimed that the hotel was rated as a 4 star hotel by Expedia , but after booking Expedia revealed that Expedia actually only rated it a 3 star hotel.

    So it’s the SAME travel site giving different information before and after the booking.  That can never be tolerated.

    There is no amount of research that the you, me, or the OP could have done to protect against such an occurrence.

    I appreciate that you do not approve of DIY and probably less so of opaque travel sites, but neither case is a justification to allow a website to commit fraud by lying to its customers.

  • MarkKelling

    Yes.  Good guess!  Stayed at the Lime Tree twice now and both times was exactly what I needed.  
     
    Also stayed at the Holiday Inn Express in the same neighborhood and liked it a lot as well.  No air conditioning, but so far I was always there when the weather was cool.

  • Kunzang Tenzin

    Great information for a agent like me who is also a Tour Operator in Bhutan. http://www.mysteriousbhutan.com

  • http://twitter.com/BWAlbAirInn Albany Airport Inn

    They shouldn’t be able to post false information. Some customers might choose where they stay based on stars. However, it’s always best to look at the hotel website before you book it on Expedia. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/joan.ramstedt Joan Ramstedt

    I booked an unpublished hotel through Expedia this past weekend and discovered moments after I pushed the Purchase button that the hotel ratings described the property as horrendous, with broken tiles and no air conditioning that I immediately contacted Expedia to get a refund based upon the reviews which were consistently poor desribing the property as a 2 star at best. I was told to go to my credit card company and file a dispute with them. AE told me Expedia had the power to remedy the situation and to go to their management team who contacted the hotel to see if they would work with me to which the hotel responded NO. So I went up two levels in Expedia who told me “their hands were tied” and gave me a small credit but still no real remedy. I was told that a four star rating is very subjective and that the Expedia representative in Italy was responsible for reviewing customer complaints. It was suggested that I go to the hotel, take pictures and send them to their office for an investigation. If they determined the hotel misrepresented their own status as a 4 star they would take it under advisement. I suggested that description on their website for unpublished rates was very specific, indicating that their unpublished rate hotels were on par with an the Intercontinental, Hilton or Hyatt chain. This hotel is no where close to any of those brands. My issue is you can’t mislead people into purchasing a product that is “not as described” and sell a consumer a Intercontinental price tag and deliver a Holiday Inn experience. AE said they would do anything to help, but that my chances of succeeding the dispute with the information I have currently is very low. Please help me out this is my 15 year anniversary and first trip to Italy. It is important to me.