Their luggage went missing, but does anyone know why?

By all accounts, Maddy and Phil Handler liked their October cruise on the Riviera, one of the new mid-size ships in Oceania’s fleet. There was just the matter of the Handler’s luggage — and reams of correspondence between the couple and a vice president at the cruise line, bickering about what happened to it.

The cruise line claims another passenger inadvertently took the Handler’s suitcase and that it tried to help them retrieve it. But these passengers are unhappy with the way in which their claim has been handled, and they want answers about their missing luggage. They want me to step in and get a clear explanation from Oceania.

In reading the correspondence, I’m not sure if how much clearer Oceania can be — but maybe you can tell me what’s missing.

The loss appears to have happened on Nov. 3, when they left the Riviera to return home. During debarkation, passengers leave their checked luggage in front of the cabin door. A porter then moves the luggage to the terminal, where it’s claimed. The couple left around 5 a.m., only to discover one of their bags had gone missing between the hallway and terminal.

Eventually, the luggage was found and sent back to the Handlers.

Let me just jump in here and say that here’s where traveling light is a real plus. If you can manage to limit your luggage to a carry-on, you can avoid not only the risk of entrusting your luggage to a porter, but you’ll also avoid the steep fees for checking luggage on an airline.

And on common-sense level, why would anyone leave their personal belonging out in the hallway overnight? Makes no sense.

“The issue is really, does the cruise line have responsibility for luggage at the port since we are told to put out our luggage by the cruise line,” says Maddy Handler. “And if lost, should not there be a report and one which the passenger has a right to get?”

The answer is: none — and no.

First, let’s have a look at Oceania’s ticket contract (PDF), the legal agreement between the passengers and the cruise line. Check out section 10.

[I]n no event shall We be liable to You with respect to any occurrence prior to embarkation or after disembarkation from the Ship. In no event shall We be liable to You with respect to any occurrence taking place other than on the Ship or launches, tender or other craft owned or operated by Us, or with respect to any baggage, when the same is in Our custody at any shore side installation.

In other words, Oceania washes its hands of liability after you leave your luggage at the door.

The answer to the Handlers’ second question came directly from an executive vice president at the cruise line. No, unlike airlines, Oceania doesn’t keep records of lost or misplaced luggage.

He adds,

Stuff like this happens from time to time. It happens at airports, at hotels and certainly at cruise lines … It was a simple mistake by one of our guests who took the wrong bag and returned it. I am sorry it happened with your bag but it was unavoidable.

At this point there is nothing further we can do to alleviate your concerns and thus we consider this matter closed.

Ah, the ol’ “we consider this matter closed” — another way of saying, “go away.”

I’ve reviewed the correspondence between both parties several times, but haven’t been privy to their phone conversations. But based on what I see, I don’t know if Oceania can give the Handlers more information. The information simply doesn’t exist.

But it should. I find it troubling that a cruise line isn’t legally responsible for your checked luggage and that records of lost bags aren’t kept. Oceania could have quickly settled this by offering the Handlers a cruise credit and an apology, but instead, its responses come off as defensive and dismissive.

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Update: I just received a note from the Handlers, who note that their luggage was removed from the port area, not from in front of their cabin. They also believe the cruise contract holds Oceania responsible. And they’ve clarified their request for compensation.

We would want our expenditure reimbursement for the call we made to the ship ($20) to locate the bag and for the few items of clothing we had to buy ($70) for the work week our clothing was missing, both which were turned down by cruise insurance. That is another gray area — coverage for lost luggage once [a] cruise is over. Coverage just extends to the day you get home and baggage loss needs 24 hrs until they pay out. A catch-22.

  • LeeAnneClark

    Just read the update. My thoughts on this case remain the same: they got their luggage back. The compensation request is ridiculous. They were HOME – are they trying to say that they have such a small wardrobe at home that they couldn’t survive without buying new stuff? Come ON!

    As for the phone call, I’m a little confused why it should have cost them…why weren’t they discussing this with corporate, and letting corporate contact the ship? Anyway, really…20 bucks? They’re making a big deal over 20 bucks?

    IMO, this is just a money grab, trying to get paid for what was really a minor inconvenience.

  • pauletteb

    Sounds as though cruise lines are as good at documenting lost luggage as they are at documenting onboard crime.

  • pauletteb

    My ex always did the carry-on thing, and he looked like a freakin’ slob by the end of the trip!

  • sirwired

    Yes, and you are in a similar pickle if you are a traveling tuba player or if you plan to play full-contact football on the beach…

    I clearly was not referring to people with special equipment needs.

  • LeeAnneClark

    Well, I personally do not feel that my comment warranted this snark, but…whatever. As for scuba being ‘special needs’, I beg to differ. Scuba diving is a very common vacation activity (as opposed to tuba-playing or full-contact football), and I am certainly not the only diver who avoids rental gear. There are many other common vacation activities that require bringing stuff bigger than can fit in a carry-on…golf comes to mind.

    My sole point is that I feel that expecting people to vacation with nothing more than a carry-on is unreasonable. Those of you who can do it, how nice for you. But many of us can’t…and it doesn’t mean we’re ‘special needs’. It means we plan on doing more on our vacation than eating and drinking, and wearing more than the same clothes day in and day out. Oh, and some of us also like to bring back gifts, so once again there goes the carry-on idea.

    I feel too many posts in here are castigating those of us who can’t travel with carry-ons. Wanting to bring more than two changes of clothes on vacation is not a crime!

  • LeeAnneClark

    I also prefer not to have to spend a large chunk of my vacation time doing laundry. ;-)

  • alumna

    Having done a lot of traveling in my life time I have made it a point to always have one small rollerbag with all my most important items. One set of clothes that can be washed by hand; all medications, etc., all valuables.

    On a cruise, my husband and I each have a rollerbag with essentials, and a large shoulder bag or backpack, with miscellaneous items that we keep with us at all times embarking and disembarking; and a large bag which we put outside the door for the porters to take.

    We mark all our bags very well, particularly since so many look alike.

    So far, the bags that have been misplaced have been while flying.

    We also have locks on all our bags to discourage someone from opening the bag quickly.

    Traveling as lightly as possible is the best way to go if one can.

    Actually, with hundreds of people on a ship or plane, and so much luggage, it is amazing that more items are not lost or stolen.

  • Raven_Altosk

    I’m baaaaaaaaaaaaaack :D
    Yeah, things were just nuts for awhile. I don’t think I slept in my own timezone for a month. Eeesh.

  • TonyA_says

    Well I noticed that you wear that Navy Blue T-shirt every time you shoot a video. So you have us beat :-)

  • http://elliott.org Christopher Elliott

    Welcome back!

  • AUSSIEtraveller

    what a pack of whingers. Are they from England ?
    Get a life.
    Not the cruise lines responsibility if someone else took your bag.
    Maybe get a can of pink paint & write all over your bags, something to the effect HANDS OFF or simply go to local Chinatown & buy large baggage tags which say something to same effect.

  • LeeAnneClark

    And how’d the TSA treat you? Inquiring minds want to know! ;-)

  • LeeAnneClark

    Y’know, you make a good point…these types of situations can be avoided if you make an effort to personalize your luggage in a way that is very obvious.

    We all know that many bags look alike. But you can easily add something to your bag that makes it unmistakably yours, and unlikely to be grabbed accidentally by someone who thinks it’s theirs.

    The spray-paint thing is certainly one idea! Although I prefer something a little less, um, grafiti-ish. ;-) I tie wide, brightly-colored fabric strips on the handles so that I can spot my bag from a long distance away…and if someone happens to have a bag that looks like mine, they should be able to tell instantly that this one is NOT theirs.

  • Steve Rabin

    If the cruise line required them to put the luggage outside their room for delivery dockside, then the cruise line is responsible. Makes no difference where the bags went. They should reimburse the Handlers for their expenses. I believe putting the bags out is a common practice for pickup and delivery to customs, so the pax don’t have to shlep their own bags.

  • technomage1

    With the update things get murkier. On the one hand, their requested expenses are modest enough. On the other, it’s not typical for companies to be responsible for bags in this situation to my knowledge. Are airlines responsible if someone picks the wrong bag up st baggage claim?

  • ldvinva

    They were at home and had to spend $70 for items to wear during the work week? Huh? Did they take all their clothing with them on the trip and it was all in that bag that went temporarily astray? I don’t get it.

  • bodega3

    Rick Steves addresses this on his website, videos and his PBS programs to ad nauseum. Everyone has things they need, want or can leave at home. You need to travel a bit to figure it out. It also depends on the destination. I can get everything in a carryon for 7-10 days to Hawaii but not for Europe…nor do I want to. I just took a 12 day trip that included a 10 day cruise with two family members who laughed at a few of the items I packed yet they were the ones who asked to use them. They were so proud at how little they packed, but we also ended up spending time at store getting items they neede when the time could have been used for having fun!

  • scapel@suddenlink.net

    An explanantion might give the people a feeling that meybe this might not happen again if they know what caused it.

  • http://flyicarusfly.com/ Fly, Icarus, Fly

    With the update, this makes a more interesting story. Are the airlines responsible if your bag makes it to the final carousel but then is jacked by someone? Cruiselines should be in the same category.

  • Ann Lamoy

    What I don’t get about what they want for compensation is the $70 for the clothing they needed to purchase for work for the week the luggage was missing.

    You mean to tell me that all of their work appropriate clothing was packed in that one piece of luggage that went missing? Or it was all their undergarments? I mean one good bra can get pretty spendy so if all of her bras were in that bag, I can see the $70 price tag but who the hell packs all of their bras?

    At this point, unless something is missing from the bag, they should be thankful it is back and just drop it. $20 for phone calls is not that much.

  • technomage1

    *sigh*. Maybe he should have a column about the apparent controversy in the subject, then.

  • MarkKelling

    Done several 2 week European trips with just a carry on. Of course I pick a time of year when the weather is comfortable so I don’t need to drag winter clothes with me. And I also plan to do laundry or have it done at least once during the trip. I can usually find a laundry in a town I am staying in that I can drop it off and they will wash/dry everything for an affordable price while I do my daytime site seeing.

    Also, with a smart phone, I have found I can leave many things at home I used to take with me – alarm clock, flashlight, laptop, cd player along with the accompanying chargers and wiring.

  • Ali Jackson

    Having never taken a cruise, I find it odd to simply leave your luggage unattended in the hallway. What happens at the airport when the airline representative asks if your luggage has been in your possession since you packed it? I know TSA is merely security theatre; but, wouldn’t all cruise passengers in this situation have to answer “no” to that question?

  • http://www.facebook.com/linda.bator Linda Bator

    Have been on DOZENS of cruises without a problem – and the luggage in the hall wasn’t the problem here, either. It was when the luggage was picked up in the terminal, and someone grabbed theirs in error – I’ve seen this also happen at airports!

  • cp556

    The “leave your luggage outside the door” is not unique to just cruises. We’ve done European trips which included hotel nights. The package included all luggage handling. And they require you to leave your luggage outside your door at a certain time so that it can be collected and transported to the motorcoach.

  • Live there, learn something

    They got their luggage back, end of story.