“We paid for a seven-night cruise and only got six”

Rina and Hasan Subhani disembarked from their cruise on the Carnival Glory with a sinking feeling. Along with a litany of complaints, one rises above the rest: The couple feels they were cheated from a day of their vacation.

“We paid for a seven-night cruise,” says Rina Subhani. “We got only six nights.”

I thought this one aspect of their cruise was serious enough that it merited an intervention by yours truly. Little did I know that I would learn lesson about about the grievance process: that there are times when you should never give up the fight.

The Subhanis cause looked lost, even after I asked Carnival to review it. But then … well, I’ll get to that in a minute.

First, let’s hear from them. For all those following along, their cruise took place June 3 to 10, and yes, there are others with this problem. Here’s an interesting thread on Cruise Critic for anyone interested in the backstory.

“This was far from a relaxing good time,” Rina Subhani told me. “This was, honestly, a nightmare.”

The ship was scheduled to depart for its New England cruise at 3 p.m., but a combination of weather and speed restrictions caused the ship to arrive late in Boston. The ship didn’t leave until 12:30 p.m. the following day.

She adds,

We booked through a travel agent so we received no communication from Carnival about delays, as they claim all of that went to the travel agent. We were treated as second class because we booked through an agent, and that is totally unfair.

We found out that they had rented a room at the Westin. We went there at 6 p.m. Sunday and were there until 1 a.m. We got on the ship at 2 a.m.

We were the last family on board, and the entire time we were told during check in and at the Westin that the buffet would remain open.

We have learned that people waiting at the pier were at least given sandwiches. We spent our evening at the Westin and were only fed tea, coffee and chips.

We are vegetarian. We made a special request on the first night for specific Indian food — naan bread instead of rice — and an employee came by and said that this was not possible.

We had to continuously ask for bland pasta with no meat every night. We’ve cruised Carnival before and special requests made on the first night were always accommodated.

So, a lot going on here. (And there’s more; I’ve edited their grievance to just hit the highlights.) Clearly, they were unhappy about their cruise, and Carnival’s compensation, which was a comped night in a hotel, a $50 dinner voucher and a polite, fairly detailed response from someone in the cruise line’s executive office.

I was curious to get Carnival’s side of the story. Here’s what it had to say after I asked:

Regrettably, the weather was poor during the ship’s repositioning to Boston. Additionally, we properly planned for and took into account the speed restrictions imposed on ships to protect migrating whales along the East Coast for our scheduled itinerary.

However, the speed zone was greatly expanded recently, making it impossible for us to maintain our original arrival time in Boston. Consequently, we informed guests of the delayed arrival on April 9th and again on June 1st.

On June 3rd, it became clear the ship’s itinerary would be impacted due to fog. That same day, we notified guests via email of the change in itinerary, revised check-in times of 8:30 p.m. to 11:30 p.m.,
boarding to begin around 10:00 p.m., with departure scheduled for Monday at 11:00 a.m. Additionally, text messages were sent to all guests who had subscribed.

Boarding commenced at 9:45 p.m. with a brief pause due to a computer glitch and then resumed at 10:15 p.m. Embarkation was completed at 1:45 a.m.

An all night buffet was not promised, however, the Lido Deck buffet remained open until 1:45 a.m. The dining rooms were closed. We sent an email on June 3rd stating we were providing $50 per person onboard credit so guests could enjoy dinner in town.

We feel the gesture extended was fair and equitable. Please be advised that this is our final determination.

That’s not just a “no” as an old coach at the Naval Academy used to say; that’s a “hell no.”

Carnival’s ticket contract leaves it just enough wiggle room to deny the Subhani’s request for a one-night refund. But just because it’s in the fine print doesn’t mean it’s fine. While other customers were also inconvenienced, I think these passengers could make a case for being among the most inconvenienced by the delay.

I circled back with the Subhanis, relaying the bad news. And then I moved this into the “case dismissed” file.

A few days later, they sent me another note.

“Just wanted to give you an update,” wrote Rina Subhani. “Carnival is refunding one day of the total price paid — which is what we were looking for as fair compensation. Not sure what changed their mind, but it’s a victory.”

I don’t know what changed Carnival’s mind, either. I’m reluctant to take the credit for this one. I suspect the collective pressure from Cruise Critic, and perhaps the threat of a lawsuit, made this one move forward.

  • LeeAnneClark

    I live in Ventura County, which has a large Indian population, so it’s actually not too hard to find naan bread around here either…although my local Ralphs doesn’t carry it, sadly. I know this because I love naan bread, and was trying to find it there one night when I was trying out a Chicken Tikka Masala recipe. I ended up having to go to an Indian restaurant to buy the bread. There’s also a middle-eastern market in town that carries it, but that’s about it around here.

    Still, my point was that outside of major metropolitan areas (and maybe some suburban pockets of Indian immigrants), it’s not something you will generally find at supermarkets across America. Hence, I find it unlikely that Carnival, which is basically feeding mass quantities of Mc-food to middle Americans, would have naan bread aboard. Carnival is not exactly known for its eclectic international menu offerings. ;-)

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1566935644 Meredith Putvin

    Wait… They only received Tea, Coffee and Chips… In Boston? I can understand if they were at the Westin Convention Center Hotel, but if they were at the Westin Copley place that seems a bit hard to swallow, knowing Boston… The Copley place hotel is connected by indoor walkways to a mall area and Copley place. Something tells me they expected everything complimentary.

    I also attended a conference at the New Convention center on the waterfront… Something seems off…

  • andrelot

    This is one of those cases in which the “laundry lists” puts off my sympathy for the OP. I think compensation offered is already enough.

  • Cybrsk8r

    I’m torn on this one. The OP’s seem pretty whiney, but, since the ship did leave about 22.5 hours late, I think a one days refund is in order. I mean, ships are compared to floating resorts these days. Well, if that’s that’s the case, then this would be like pre-paying a hotel room for seven days and then when you get there you find out the hotel doesn’t have a room for you, but you still have to pay for it

  • y_p_w

    You buy it before departing. I don’t think they typically resupply in open waters like large navies.

  • bodega3

    That and pack your sense of humor and you will can make the best of a bump in the travel road.

  • http://flyicarusfly.com/ Fly, Icarus, Fly

    I know it’ll only be popular with some of the commenters, but there should be a secondary poll where we rate the OP:

    Whiner
    Greedy
    Needs a slap / reality check (I prefer ‘slap’)
    Got Screwed
    Totally Deserving

    You get the picture… The regular polls can be for casual readers. The OP polls are for the commenters…

  • http://flyicarusfly.com/ Fly, Icarus, Fly

    If they were at the Westin which Carnival got for them, how is it that they didn’t get any updates on boarding, is my question…

  • http://flyicarusfly.com/ Fly, Icarus, Fly

    I’m sure there was a buffet open for the bulk of the people boarding. The OP said they were the LAST family on board. So presumably, the buffet had closed when it was clear that they vast majority had made it on. They DO have to re-open at 6am for breakfast. The OP needs to be reasonable. Do they not have 24 hour room service?

  • Mozue Cat

    Exactly. They seemed to be so caught up in their own frustration that they neglected to do some very minor things in order to make sure their needs were being met and that they were getting the proper information.

  • Mozue Cat

    I get your point. However, if you are experiencing this situation and you used a TA, would you not call if you have not heard from him/her? I am not trying to be a pain. Just want to make sure that I understand.

  • LadySiren

    Hahahahaha, Christopher Corleone. Love this.

  • Michael__K

    If they didn’t have access to the same communications as the other passengers, and they were given erroneous information multiple times, then they have a legitimate gripe that the vast majority of fellow passengers didn’t have.

    When and where did they check-in? Was it in the cruise terminal between 1am and 2am that they were *still* told that the buffet would remain open?

  • travelagentman

    If only TSA would look at the column and pay attention, you might be elected as the next president.

  • travelagentman

    Since working with Carnival since the original Mardi Gras, I have never had Carnival not contact me when there was a problem. Even when there is a weather delay, I am contacted to get hold of the client.

  • http://www.facebook.com/linda.bator Linda Bator

    Only they didn’t REQUEST it before sailing – they did so at dinner. Too little, too late!

  • http://www.facebook.com/linda.bator Linda Bator

    Actually, they do a very good job with those people who PRE-ORDER an Indian vegetarian request. Or any other ethnic request, for that matter. But its not something that can wait till you’ve boarded to brooch!

  • http://www.facebook.com/linda.bator Linda Bator

    Where do you get 22 1/2 hours????? They were scheduled to depart at 3:00 pm, and left at 2:00 am the SAME DAY.

  • http://www.facebook.com/linda.bator Linda Bator

    In APRIL and JUNE they notified these passengers (and all others) that due to the wahales, they would be slowling down and changing the itin. The day they BOARDED was due to bad weather. Read, people!!!!

  • y_p_w

    That’s not the same day. Less than 12 hours, but technically not the same day.

  • Nikki

    OK, that Christopher Corleone reference got me laughing my way out of a bad mood. Good lord. lmao (thx LeeAnne!)

  • http://profiles.google.com/saucywench S E Tammela

    Hmm, I am not so sure they were asking too much, they didn’t want “compensation” but just a pro-rata one-night refund for what they didn’t get. Also, “rice” often means fried rice containing ham, and it’s certainly not rare for people to have that as a food they don’t eat, being forbidden by two of the world’s biggest religions. I suppose it all depends whether they’d been told their diets could be accommodated. Something tells me the cruise line were anything BUT accommodating that week. This family’s requests were nothing compared with the usual customer demands of free do-overs and cash for pain and suffering.

  • judyserienagy

    I agree with LeeAnn, these recent stories about whiners aren’t very interesting. Are we to believe that these bozos ate nothing at the Westin because they would have had to pay for it … they were waiting for a free buffet on the ship … in the middle of the night? When your travel hands you a glitch, you make the most of it, you don’t sit in the corner being hungry. Whining tourists should stay home, stop wasting valuable resources … we want more real problem-solving stories, Chris!

  • judyserienagy

    Icarus, what a wonderful idea … rate the people who are complaining … what fun! OH PLEASE CHRIS, CAN WE DO THIS?????????