“We have been ripped off”

Kate Silver didn’t stay at the Hotel Arlecchino in Venice earlier this year, even though she had a confirmation from her online travel agency. Instead, she and her husband, Howard, were “walked” to the Hotel Continental when the Arlecchino was oversold.

Here’s the Arlecchino’s site and here’s the Continental’s site. And I’ll save you the trouble of checking TripAdvisor: 89 percent like Arlecchino; 73 percent recommend the Continental.

So although they aren’t quite the same, they seem to be close enough.

But Silver isn’t happy with her agency, Hotels.com, because for her, the trip was an unqualified disaster.

Question is, how does an online travel agency address a problem like this after the guest has stayed in a hotel?

The Silvers had chosen the Arlecchino because it offered the facilities necessary for Howard Silver, who can’t walk because he suffers from Parkinson’s, a degenerative nervous system disorder. When they checked in, the couple were given the news about the overbooking, but assured that the replacement hotel was even better (“they told me it had four stars”). Obviously, that wasn’t true.

When I explained my husband could not walk there he called a water taxi which my husband could not climb into. I carried our bags to another spot that was lower and my husband was helped into the boat by strangers.

Arriving at the substitute hotel (Continental) we found it to have many stairs and no elevator. After much convincing, we were allowed to use the freight elevator. We were expected to tip for that.

The room was musty and reeked of cigarette smoke, which I indicated to the bellman was not acceptable.

He gestured at us, pretending not to understand, and opened the window that had no screens and by the time we got back from dinner there were numerous small black flies stuck to the walls and furniture. During the night, they bit my husband. Four of those bites became infected and had to be treated three days later, leaving scars.

You get the idea. The visit only got worse, with a missed wake-up call the next morning, her husband taking a fall, missing a tour bus, and her discovery that she’d overpaid for her room. She’d paid $229 for two night at the Arlecchino, but a comparable stay at the Continental during the same time would have cost her $170.

I immediately called Hotels.com to inform them of the scam perpetrated on us by the two innkeepers in Venice in order to charge lots of money and pocket the rest, thinking they would want to know that they were representing such activity, and was disconnected each time I explained (even though they had my number and could have called back). I asked for a full refund.

I realize it is only $229, but that’s a lot of money to us and also it is the whole scam of the thing that makes it a matter of principle. How can we be totally unrepresented in this matter when it is so blatantly clear and supported by paperwork that we have been ripped off? I think they are hoping we give up and go away.

I thought the Silvers had a reasonably good case. Yes, their experience left something to be desired from the service point of view, but when you walk guests, the common practice is to send them to a better hotel. The Silvers didn’t go to a better place.

Hotels.com turned the couple down. I contacted the company on their behalf. I’m not sure if a full refund would have been in order, but I felt the Silver’s negative experience needed to be addressed.

A representative called Silver and explained that in the company’s view, the Arlecchino hadn’t broken its contract with Hotels.com when it walked them to the Continental.

I begged her to explain to me why they would take the word of the vendor when I had submitted proof that the vendor was telling lies to everyone about what happened.

She said the contracts department said nothing more can be done and they have considered this case closed. She told me that the contracts department does not speak directly to customers.

Technically, Hotels.com may be correct. But this is a customer-service problem, so let’s dispense with the technicalities.

The Silvers couldn’t have known they were being sent to an inferior hotel, so they couldn’t know they needed to refuse the offer. To me, this is a clear case of a customer being walked down, or being sent to a cheaper hotel.

Someone is probably making money from this.

I think Hotels.com could have done better. They could start with an apology, if not a partial refund.

Update (9 a.m.): Apparently, the couple’s credit card company agrees with me. Just received this from Kate Silver.

I just received a call from Amex and they are doing a full ‘charge back’ to Hotels.com on the bill and crediting my account. Perhaps the merchant can refute that action in the long run, but for now, it seems that we might have won this battle.

Thanks for all your help in anything that you did in the background to make my voice heard.

  • BillC

    Once you deal with a third party such as hotels.com I find you suddenly become a second class guest. Hotels.com should at least apologize. As has been stated many times on this site don’t accept any change until you’ve contacted the agency that booked the service(hotel,flight,car) that way if you have a complaint it is on record.

  • OTC

    I just can’t understand why anyone would use these 3rd party websites.

    Chris: What % of your complaints involve 3rd party websites like Expedia, Hotels, Travelocity, etc?

    Also, for people with such medical problems I would think that the services of a reliabel brick & mortar travel agent would have been helpful, I am not a fan of them in general, but when you’re planning a trip like this and have serious medical needs that must be met it’s critical that you get expert advice if you’re not familiar with the destination.

  • Christopher Elliott

    @OTC I used to get a lot of complaints about online agencies, but I’ve received fewer in the recent months.

  • Raven

    This is a scam, pure and simple. I think hotels.com needs some bad press over this one, and I hope you give them plenty of it, Chris.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ Christopher Elliott – “@OTC I used to get a lot of complaints about online agencies, but I’ve received fewer in the recent months.”
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    There was a recent article in the USA Today based upon a study done by Forester (I could be wrong about company that did the study) stating that there have been an increase of travelers using a traditional b&m travel agent instead of using these online booking sites.

  • John

    Sounds like it’s time to go to small claims court. Hotels.com didn’t provide the contracted or better experience. Sounds to me like the original hotel got a better deal for their rooms than what Hotels.com was paying and didn’t want to pay more.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ OTC – “Also, for people with such medical problems I would think that the services of a reliabel brick & mortar travel agent would have been helpful, I am not a fan of them in general, but when you’re planning a trip like this and have serious medical needs that must be met it’s critical that you get expert advice if you’re not familiar with the destination.”
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    I agree. I am sure that there are travel agents who specialize in destinations, travelers with ADA requirements, etc.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    Was the hotel actually full? Or did the hotel saw an opportunity to make some money from the Silvers?

  • Robert Davis

    I’ll agree with OTC, I’ll NEVER deal with third party travel sites. The one time we did, Southwest, for a cruise we got no documentation or brochures that other travelers did. No problems but never again.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ BillC – “Once you deal with a third party such as hotels.com I find you suddenly become a second class guest.
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    I agree…I don’t understand why people use these sites. You save money but is it worth the hassles when there is an issue?

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    “So although they aren’t quite the same, they seem to be close enough.”
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    Both hotels are three-star hotel on TripAdvisor. However, Arlecchino is ranked # 139 of 451 hotels in Venice in the TripAdvisor Popularity Index…Hotel Continental is ranked #281 of 451 hotels. One hotel is in the top 30% and the other hotel is at 62%.

    Personally, when a hotel has less than a 80% recommendation rating on TripAdvisor, I will skip the hotel. I understand that you can’t please everyone but a hotel should be able to please at least 80% of their guest.

    When I research hotels on TripAdvisor for our international trips, I only read the comments from US travelers since travelers from other countries have different standards.

    Since hotels in Europe are different (i.e. small rooms, lack of A/C in most rooms, etc.) than hotels in the US, it would probably have made sense for the Silvers to use a traditional travel agent to find hotels that will meet their needs.

    When we travel internationally, I typically carry a list of alternative hotels with me in case if the hotel is oversold, etc. especially when we are not staying at a western-brand hotel (i.e. Marriott, Hilton, Radisson, Holiday Inn, etc.).

  • Chicky

    Places like hotels.com have their uses. They are good for comparison shopping for a number of hotels and to get a good idea of what room rates are in the area. They’re good for their reviews, in conjunction with a site like Trip Advisor. I booked through them once, and had no problems.
    Having said that, I almost always book directly with the hotel, airline, car rental, etc.
    If I were traveling with someone who had special medical needs, however, I’d almost certainly go to a b&m travel agent (especially for an overseas itinerary), since they often have the resources to determine if a facility can meet those needs.
    Hotels.com should hang its corporate head in shame.

  • LadySiren

    The more I read here on Chris’ site, the more I am convinced that when we’re ready to plan our next big vacation, we’ll need to use a B&M agency. Hotels.com and their ilk seem to have no regard for the travelers they claim they want to serve. I’ll be avoiding them like the plague until they clean up their act.

  • http://www.blisshoneymoons.com Laura

    This is exactly what happens when you book online. They should have used a real travel agent.

  • http://www.sanibel-rentals.net sylvia

    Although I much prefer vacation rentals to hotels, from reading this blog I would never consider a third party agency to book a hotel room if ever I needed one. What was done to the Silvers was reprehensible. It’s difficult enough to live and travel with a serious medical condition, let alone find yourself trapped in an inferior and non accomodating hotel.

  • cjr

    Unfortunately, the situation with all of these ‘opaque’ sites seems to be that you can save money and it can be worth it… if you don’t have any problems.

    But once a problem occurs? Oh boy.

  • Michelle

    I don’t think that avoiding a 3rd party site would have helped here. If they had booked directly with the hotel they still could have been “walked”. A b&m agent would also have difficulty getting the hotel to rectify the situation. A good agency would give the customer $ but not get compensated for it so it would come out of their already slim profit margin.

    If I were walked to a lesser hotel, I’d go back to the first one and say “try again”.

  • Mike S

    Hotels overbook. Venice is a really tough city for someone with a handicap to get around. The Silvers were done a real disserve and deerve compensation, but from whom? This really is not a hotels.com fault unless they knew that this hotel was overbooked or overbooked often enough that there was a significant risk.

    The Silvers should have contacted the hotel in advance by email and let someone know of their situation and the importance of holding a room. That’s no guaranty but it helps. Then when the offer to move came they needed to be firm and see if there wasn’t at least one room being held in reserve. An offer to pay a bit extra sometimes helps.

    Now having a handicap you need to be pro-active in protecting yourself. Never rely on someone else’s assurance. They should have called the other hotel themselves and would likely have learned that it was not suitable.

    But that is all past and now what should be done as compensation. It looks like further contact with the Arlecchino is the best approach if the Silvers want to continue to pursue this or a second round with their credit card company where they actually cancel the card if not pleased.

  • Pamela

    I had agreed to transfer to a ‘sister’ locanda in venice after three nights due to the original locanda being booked for the remainder of my intended stay. However, upon seeing that the ‘sister’ locanda was at least one star down from the original, I went back and spoke with the owner and politely insisted on being given a comparable accomodation (I was paying the same rate for all nights). The owner made a few phone calls and we were taken to a locanda that was even nicer than the first. Pays to speak up right away sometimes.

  • http://www.thetravelinggiraffe.com Crissy

    I don’t like to use booking sites, I typically find the same offers with the same hotels through their own website. I feel like their is less opportunity for miscommuncations and requests are more likely to be honored. I have no proof, but I think you’re also less likely to be the person “walked” over to another hotel when they’re over booked.

    I find it unacceptable that they were “walked” to another hotel that is cheaper and although has the same number of stars, is not as well rated. It also was not able to properly accomodate the guests. Hotels.com should have done something (since they didn’t do anything).

  • Joe Farrell

    they were going to call back to the US to a B&M TA? Really? Check in time is 3pm? Thats 9am on the east coast and 6am on the west – exactly when were they going to reach their TA and we all know that they are never available when you need them – so they would have left a message. Since they would not have a cell phone most likely – they would then need to leave a message and then call back – and you know how that was going to work out – every time they called it would go to voicemail.

    They need to PROVE they had rooms and they walked them even though they had rooms to let. EZ way to prove that at the time – CALL THE HOTEL from a pay phone in the lobby and see if they’ll sell you room. This is all speculation based on what they thought of afterward. . . .

  • David Z

    I agree…I don’t understand why people use these sites. You save money but is it worth the hassles when there is an issue?

    However unlikely we’ll ever know, but how much percentage of bookings via third parties go wrong vs. those that turn out right?

    @cjr, I think you’re referring to Hotwire? Anyway, both Hotwire and Hotels.com are “owned” by Expedia Inc so no big…

  • gerry

    I also hope that the Silvers will expostulate at length on tripadvisor.com and other hotel review websites about the Arlecchino’s dishonesty and the abysmal quality of the Continental. Based on this story, both hotels are much too well rated, and at a glance, it looks like the Arlecchino does quite a bit of astroturfing. Reviews praising the hotel to the skies are interspersed with this familiar sounding item:

    “Thank you to trip advisor. From feedback from other travellers we half expected the reponse we recieved when we got to this hotel.

    We prepayed online one night classic doulbe with canal view $220euro.

    When we got there after a long trip we were told that there was mistake with the reservation & that he had organised a room at a “4 star” hotel 10 minutes from the hotel & when we refused he tried throwing in a free water taxi. Again not interested.

    Then Franciesco tried offering 3 star hotel about 50m down the road but because I had read this on trip advisor before of similar encounters I had lost patience & I was onto his routine. ”

    And good for American Express! Someone sided with the little guy besides Chris! What a refreshing change.

    Gerry

  • http://www.singleparenttravel.net John Frenaye

    Not that it matters, but did the Silvers not their handicap in the remarks field? Or did they just go off of the hotel’s description? Hotels often pad the description and it is possible that it was not as accessible as advertised (maybe like they did not have an elevator) and know the Continental did.

    Regardless, they did not get what they paid for and are deserving some compensation and it looks like they got it.

    @Michelle–you would be surprised the magic a good agent can work.

  • atlmom

    @Michelle: actually, the hotels will walk you, more likely, if you didn’t book through them, or through their preferred vendors. Possibly it was *because* they booked thru hotels.com that they were walked.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ Michelle – “If I were walked to a lesser hotel, I’d go back to the first one and say “try again”.”
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    I agree but in the case of the Silvers, it would have been hard for them to come back (i.e. water taxis, not wheelchair friendly, etc.). Also, if I had special needs (i.e. elevator, a rollaway bed, a crib, etc.), I would have asked if the new hotel had these amenities, features, etc. before leaving the lobby.

    Depending upon the time of arrival, the Silvers should have pleaded their case against moving to another hotel. It is my guess that the Silvers got a discounted rate for the room through Hotel.com and Hotel Arlecchino decided to bump them since they had a low rate so they sent them to another hotel.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ Joe Farrell – “they were going to call back to the US to a B&M TA? Really? Check in time is 3pm? Thats 9am on the east coast and 6am on the west – exactly when were they going to reach their TA and we all know that they are never available when you need them – so they would have left a message.”
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    My former travel agent (she is now retired) had someone to answer her calls 24 x 7…they page her and/or call her on her cell phone if she received an ‘after-hour’ call from a client.

    @ Joe Farrell – “Since they would not have a cell phone most likely…”
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    Why will someone travel to a foreign country with a medical condition without a cell phone?

  • Roberto Pascal

    3rd party sites are great…to comparison shop. I hit Expedia or Orbitz first to see who has the good prices, then hit the chain or hotel or airline directly to verify pricing and terms and then to book. It’ll be a shame for my use as more and more people stop buying from the 3rd party sites…they’ll just go out of business and I’ll no decent, free, option to one-stop shop…

  • Margery

    I am not going to second guess the Silvers, and I am glad they shared their tale of woe — I hope they posted on TripAdvisor to the hotels’ sites! But, let me add to the chorus of posters who see potential problems in the money-saving third party booking system. I’ve had a few great bargains with them, but a couple of horror stories that cost me $$$, so I no longer use them.

    Even 10 years ago hotels in Venice and across Europe were using FAX and email. I have found contacting the hotel directly often works wonders. I had wonderful luck working directly with a hotel in Venice. I’m embarrassed to say most hoteliers across the globe communicate in excellent English (embarrassed because I am not able to communicate adequately in any language besides English). I was never more thankful to have contacted the hotel directly than when I visited St Petersburg, Russia. The woman who emailed me knew to suggest she send a taxi to pick me up at the train station, and to offer free services to aid with getting my visa. Until I was there I had no idea of the hassles she saved me regarding the taxi situation.

    In any case, in this day and age the world is connected by the WWW. I highly recommend first person contact, and even more so when your needs require special consideration.

  • DJP

    I do believe that fancier hotels know who you are and where you are coming from so they figure they can screw with people who booked through sites such as hotels, expedia, and travelocity. The priority level guests are those traveling in large tour groups and those paying full fare.

  • West Coaster

    CHris:

    I really appreciate this post. This is not the first I have seen about Hotels.com. I am cancelling my account with them at this time. Better safe than sorry!

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ Margery – “Even 10 years ago hotels in Venice and across Europe were using FAX and email. I have found contacting the hotel directly often works wonders.”
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    I agree…I do that all of the time especially when my family is traveling with me as well as we are traveling out of the US.

  • Joshua

    It is surprising that so many consider it acceptable for a hotel to walk a guest. The guest had a contract with Hotels.com for a room at the Arlecchino. Hotels.com breached that contract when it didn’t provide that room (any fine print in the Hotels.com website aside). The guest has a legal claim for that breach, for which damages should be recoverable. The guest should not have to haggle with the hotel in Venice, with whom it had no contract.

    In most situations, people who are walked don’t sue because they are given a comparable or better room; thus they weren’t damaged and couldn’t get any relief in court. But that didn’t happen in this situation. A court would probably give the guest at least a partial refund.

  • sam

    There are the rare occasions that the hotel that is reserved does become over-sold. For example a family of 7 persons holding 3 rooms decides during their stay that they want to extend the hotel stay.

    Technically the hotel should advise the guests that the rooms have already been reserved and they will need to vacate the hotel.

    Now why the Silver’s decided to “Holiday” in a city that the only means of transport is either by walking and or water taxi, is up for question. I’ll believe this was a dream destination; therefore they understood and would deal with the possible obstacles.

    It would seem to me that one of the main reasons the Hotel Arlecchino was chosen because it had an elevator. It would next seem to me “that if” this hotel was indeed over-sold they should not have left the hotel lobby for another hotel ” IF” the new one offered did not have an elevator, for its clients.

    As far as the room pricing…..
    You can only compare the two prices if Hotel.com offered the same rates. As people are aware each hotel has it’s own pricing contract depending upon which vendors are being used.

    IF they had used a B & M Travel Agency, the Elevator issue would be the first and foremost concern. Over-booking does occur.
    The B & M Travel Agency “would have / could have” gone to bat for the Silvers but this apparently is not the case with using a 3rd party one-line travel firm.

    I agree, how many of concerns are not followed up using the on-line travel firm “at the time” concern. Yet, this is what happens

  • sam

    @ DJP
    I do believe that fancier hotels know who you are and where you are coming from so they figure they can screw with people who booked through sites such as hotels, expedia, and travelocity.

    May I suggest that you do some Hotel Price Checks.
    The Hotel is question is rather inexpressive and not a Fancy Luxury Hotel, such as the “Bauer Hotel”….Hotel Cipriani and Palazzo Vendramin “..and others.

  • Carver

    @Joshua

    If you look at the contract between the hotel and the guest you will see that walking is part of the contract. So the emre act of walking is not a breach of the contract. The key is to make sure that the hotel honors the contract by providing comparable accomodations.

  • Patricia Mankin, CTA

    I find the discussion here intriguing as I am a travel agent. This type of situation is exactly the reason to use a ‘real person’ as your travel agent/advocate instead of a web site. I no longer work in a brick and mortar office but from a home office where I can make private appointments to meet my travelers for an interview determining their travel needs. I also am able to be accessible via phone 24/7 and do not object to receiving calls from my clients with ‘problems’ at any hour.
    The most important difficulty with this situation however is the fact that the person selecting the hotel is not a qualified professional travel agent. With my training I am able to determine the correct property initially as well as hopefully avoiding this problem in the first place by being familiar with the hotel management.
    If you don’t use a qualified travel agent, you are truly on your own (unless Chris helps you :-)

  • Mary Graham

    Hey thanks Chris…I’ll NEVER use Hotels.com, ever! They just don’t realize how many people read your column. Their bad, I suppose.

  • Carver

    @Patricia

    “The most important difficulty with this situation however is the fact that the person selecting the hotel is not a qualified professional travel agent.”

    Wow, so now one needs to be a qualified professional travel agent to book a simple hotel room.
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    “With my training I am able to determine the correct property initially as well as hopefully avoiding this problem in the first place by being familiar with the hotel management.”

    There are thousands of properties in the US, let alone internationally. I’m impressed that you are familiar with all of the management.

    Also, you do realize there weren’t any problems with the initial bookings. It was only when the hotel become overbooked and the OPs were walked that there were issues.

  • MJ

    So I am still not clear how this is all Hotels.com’s fault? The hotel did have the booking, but didn’t have a room available – not something that H.com can control. did the OP contact H.com at this point ?I don’t think so from the narrative, they let the hotel walk them to another place. They stayed there even though they didn’t like it, and contacted Hotels.com only after their stay. Well, when and how is H.com expected to put things right?

    I fail to see how a B&M Travel Agent can fix this issue, if the agent is never contacted when the problem arises, but is only expected to refund the hotel room charge after the stay is complete.

    I do agree that Hotels.com could have shown better customer service and atleast apologized/gone to bat on the customer’s behalf…. but really, I don’t see how all of what happened is Hotels.com’s fault, and how a *real* TA would have handled this better.

  • David Z

    but really, I don’t see how all of what happened is Hotels.com’s fault

    Simple: the OP booked a room through Hotels.com and believed they’ll deliver as advertised, contract terms notwithstanding. Obviously they were disappointed (and that’s probably an understatement) when Hotels.com didn’t do what they expected of them inspite of the walkdown and all.

    Someone’s gotta take the fall…

  • MJ

    @David Z

    That is what I am getting at – did they contact Hotels.com at all during their trip or when they hit this issue? If they didn’t, how is Hotels.com supposed to make things right?

    If Hotels.com was approached and they didn’t act on it, I say go ahead and roast them on the spit – I already said they could have done so much better advocating for the customer. But if Hotels.com was never made aware of the issue when it was happening, I don’t see how they are to blame for what they did not do.

  • http://Dorothy4mkay@msn.com Sasha

    I agree with most of the above comments, what I don’t understand is why someone with such a compromised physical condition would travel such a distance and allow themselves to be pushed around by a clerk. Clearly, you have to be strong enough mentally to not allow this kind of treatment.

  • Joel Wechsler

    @Carver I find your response ot @Patricia a bit snotty, tosay the least. She did not say that you have to be a qualfied professional TA to book a simple hotel room. The whole point is that the Silvers needed facilities that not every hotel has. Also, @Patricia did not say that she was familiar with all hotel management. An unbiased reader would understand that she meant she would be familiar with the management of the hotel she booked.

  • Joel Wechsler

    @Carver I find your response ot @Patricia a bit snotty, to say the least. She did not say that you have to be a qualfied professional TA to book a simple hotel room. The whole point is that the Silvers needed facilities that not every hotel has. Also, @Patricia did not say that she was familiar with all hotel management. An unbiased reader would understand that she meant she would be familiar with the management of the hotel she booked.