TSA watch: They’re looking for the wrong thing – and congratulating themselves for it

They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

If that’s true, then I should probably feel privileged that my old friend Bob Burns has started a “week in review” feature on the TSA site to highlight the positive things his agency has done – and presumably, to counter all of the unfortunate events I tend to write about every week in TSA watch.

But in this week’s post, Burns covers one event for which the TSA deserves to be recognized — and several that left me puzzled.

Let’s start with the one I liked. It involves a passenger at Syracuse International Airport who discovered she had left her cell phone in her rental car after she’d gone through screening. A helpful TSA agent retrieved the handset for her, reported the Consumerist.

“She was polite, courteous, professional and extremely helpful,” the passenger wrote. “I feel like she went above and beyond the call of duty without compromising security at the airport.”

Neat story.

But TSA also tries to connect this customer-service coup with another “success” story that, like the first one I mentioned, has practically nothing to do with making air travel safer.

It notes,

So far this week, our officers have discovered 10 loaded firearms in carry-on bags at security checkpoints across the nation.

In addition to these loaded weapons that we’ve kept off of airplanes, there were also unloaded firearms, loose ammunition, and firearm parts detected that aren’t mentioned in this post.

TSA then goes on to list all of the incidents, which is a little unusual. Maybe it’s because only two of them – a loaded .380 caliber pistol in Salt Lake City and another in Seattle – made the news. Perhaps the agency wants full credit for discovering this cache.

But the problem, as any levelheaded observer will tell you, isn’t guns on planes or ammunition on planes. After all, some pilots keep loaded pistols on the flight deck and air marshals carry weapons, too.

It’s guns in the wrong hands that are the problem.

The TSA’s post leaves me with the impression that the passengers behind these and other gun incidents may have had nefarious motives (it denies that — see Blogger Bob’s comment below). Maybe they should have also provided the names of these would-be terrorists and the charges that were filed against them.

Indeed, the agency mentions nothing about who these passengers were or what actions were taken against them. In truth, these cases are handed over to local authorities, who might prosecute them — or drop them. TSA has no law enforcement authority.

Maybe it’s me, but I think the TSA should wait a while before patting itself on the back again. Even though I love the story about the agent who retrieved the cell phone, that can be done far cheaper by one of those meet-and-greet volunteers who work at the airport, saving American taxpayers billions of dollars a year.

Likewise, the obsessive search for weapons, while it may make some of us feel a little safer, is wrong-headed. The agency should be looking for terrorists instead.

When TSA catches its first Jihadist trying to incinerate an aircraft over American airspace, then it should post its next week in review.

Until then, maybe it ought to keep its “successes” to itself.

(Photo: Publik 18/Flickr)

  • Anonymous

    I wanted an option of “Yes, so we can see what *they* consider a success.”

    I own quite a few firearms. When I travel, I usually take my favorite one with me where and when it is allowed. (Meaning, I can’t take it to Canada or England because handguns are illegal)

    To travel with it, I must check it in a special box, and it goes through a bunch of screenings, declarations and signatures. It does not fly as “carry on,” obviously, but as checked luggage.

  • Mbods2002

    The TSA knows so many of us view them unfavorably and think they should be disbanded.  They’re desperate.  I’ll wager ALL the “terrorist weapons” reported were legal or else we would have heard more.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ClipperMiami John Steele

    Glad to see someone else finally saying what I have been saying since the TSA idiocy started. We have spent billions of dollars looking for weapons instead of terrorists.

    They are touting the fining of all these “weapons” but there is not indication that any of these people had any ill intentions in mind. There are plenty of incidents where people have been found in possession of loaded firearms in their carry-on AT THE END OF THEIR TRIP. Clearly these people where not terrorists or criminals.

    The terrorists have won. They have succeeded beyond their wildest dreams. They set out to damage some buildings and embarrass America. Instead they knocked down the World Trade Center and brought America and American freedom crashing to the ground with them.

  • middle-aged-diva

    Terrorist or just plain crazy person, I don’t want hand guns on a plane that haven’t been screened and approved. It’s just silly to say that every case is terrorism but safety is more than just protection from terrorism. How about the handful of crazy people who act out on planes? I sure as hell don’t want them acting out on plane with a loaded gun. Sorry Chris, this one’s a stretch.

  • katie

    All of the weapons were presumably found using “old” technology of metal detectors and x-ray bag screening.  They still have not found anything using the new, very expensive, radiation scanners, nor have they been able to justify the invasive pat-downs.

  • Guest

    Put scanners in and forget about the people.  Anyone who gets a hit is sidelined for additional screening.

  • cjr

    “TSA’s statements suggest that the passengers behind these and other gun incidents may have had nefarious motives.”

    TSA treats everybody as a terrorists in waiting, so their playing up this angle should surprise nobody.

    TSA is in the propaganda business, not the safety business.

  • MO

    My neighbor, a 70 years old guy, went to the airport and forgot that his gun was in his briefcase. Got arrested, gun confiscated etc. This is not a success story, this old man built the country, unfortunately he is old and has amnesia. NOT a TSA success, just harassment of an old man.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1556838763 Nancy Marine Dickinson

    cjr – I think you said it better than I ever could have.  Guilty until proven innocent is the motto of TSA.

  • Bob Burns

    To be fair, I never implied these passengers had nefarious intent. In fact, I went on to tell readers how to properly travel with firearms.

    Bob Burns
    TSA Blogger
    http://blog.tsa.gov

  • Badbadbear

    I didn’t vote as both options were patronizing. There needed to be a more middle of the road voting option in there.

  • http://profiles.google.com/leeannewrites LeeAnne Clark

    Yeah, I’d like to hear the first time they find a weapon…something that could actually bring down the plane…in the folds of a woman’s labia. Only that could justify the pounding they gave to MY labia the last time I went through a TSA checkpoint.

  • http://profiles.google.com/leeannewrites LeeAnne Clark

    Agree. This is the biggest idiocy of all. Why do they search elderly disabled women’s adult diapers? Because, garsh, a terrorist could use an elderly person’s diaper to take down a plane! Has there ever been ONE SINGLE INCIDENT of a terrorist attempting to use an elderly person’s diaper to take down a plane? Of course not.

    Billions upon billions upon billions of our tax dollars spent, to try to stop something from happening that has NEVER HAPPENED.

  • Guest

    Chris:  This is one of those rare times I will disagree with you. Whether the person is or is not a “terrorist”, if they are trying to take a weapon on board, that is serious business. Yes, most of those “caught” are undoubtedly good upright non-terrorists. No matter how careful that person can be, accidents do sometimes happen, etc, etc. In this case, let’s let  TSA continue to do the job and keep unauthorized weapons off the plane. If they want to “brag”, there are certainly worse things they can brag about!

  • DesperateHeart

    Oh my God.  Another assault.  I finally saw how many people “3%” of air travelers actually means:  1.8 million every month are “patted” down.  They need to stop using the word “pat”.  Thanks for speaking up, LeeAnne.  I wish there was a website where people could simply check a box marked “violated in an airport patdown today”.  There are so few names where people are going public with their stories it can be easy to assume it’s a small number of people being assaulted like this.  I’m sorry it happened to you.

  • Gratianus

    Chris, I think your choice of questions is unfair. It’s not just amusing in the way the crime blotter is in local newspapers when it reports bizarre reports of non-existent threats. It is a way of reminding the public that carrying weapons or parts of weapons or anything else that could be used as a weapon is illegal. In this case, I am a firm believer of profiling: if you try to bring any of these things onto a flight, you should be treated as a potential menace until it’s demonstrated otherwise.

  • Anonymous

    Hey blogger Bob…
    How about addressing the incident I detailed on this site last Saturday about the TSA agents at IAH harassing and making fun of a woman who was clearly a pre-op MTF transsexual?

    Here’s the link:
    http://www.elliott.org/blog/tsa-watch-are-screeners-preying-on-sick-passengers/

    Comment is about halfway down the screen.

  • http://profiles.google.com/leeannewrites LeeAnne Clark

    To be fair, Bob, all of TSA’s crowing about all of the “prohibited items” that it confiscates (aka STEALS) just emphasizes the overall stupidity of the whole system: searching for bad things, as opposed to bad people. Swiping a sharp tool from the pocket of a technician on his way to a job site does not make anyone safer. It just makes that poor technician a little poorer, as he’s going to have to buy another one. (And makes the TSA a little richer, as they sell these “confiscated items” to pad their bloated pockets even more.)

    Since you are obviously reading this thread, I have some very specific questions for you. Can you step up to the plate and answer them?

    1. Has the TSA ever once found a weapon that could actually take down a plane within the folds of a woman’s labia? If not, why are women’s labia being touched by TSA screeners? (And don’t bother saying they aren’t, because MINE have been…TWICE.)

    2. If a terrorist wanted to target our air transportation system, wouldn’t it make a helluva lot more sense to just walk up to a crowded TSA checkpoint and blow himself up? He could kill hundreds of passengers and TSOs, without even having to have his junk touched by an infidel. Why does the TSA think that a terrorist would go to all the trouble of trying to get past the checkpoint to blow up the actual plane, when it would be so much easier to blow up the checkpoint?

    3. Why does the TSA think that terrorist are even interested in planes at all anymore? Wouldn’t it make more sense for a terrorist to blow up a bus (as in Israel), a train (as in Europe) or a nightclub (as in Bali)? Since NONE OF THOSE THINGS HAVE HAPPENED, what makes the TSA think that terrorists are so obsessed with planes?

    4. If the TSA is so dedicated to treating passengers with respect as it continually states, why are there so many reports of passengers being treated with the exact opposite, such as Lori Dorn, Lena Reppert, Thomas Sawyer, Nadine Hayes, Cathy Bossi, Stacey Armato, Mandi Hamlin, Robert Perry, and countless others that didn’t make the media (including me and my elderly disabled mother)?

    Can you man up and answer these reasonable questions, Bob?

  • Barbara

    This is why it’s called Gate Rape. 

  • http://profiles.google.com/leeannewrites LeeAnne Clark

    I can’t help but laugh every time I see them claim that pat-downs only happen 3% of the time. For people like me, with metal parts in our bodies (in my case, rods & pins in my spine), we have to get the pat-down EVERY SINGLE TIME. That’s 100% of the time, in case the TSA is as bad at math as it is at adhering to the US Constitution.

    The sad part is, the TSA doesn’t CARE that they are violating and abusing people. If you go read the Travel Safety/Security forum at Flyertalk.com, there are a number of TSOs who post there. Most of them defend to the end what TSA does – no matter how abusive or horrific.  In fact, here’s what TSO Ron said about the horrible assault committed on cancer survivor Lori Dorn last month:

    “There are millions of cancer survivors. Just as there are many millions more people out there that survive the common cold (and quite a few that don’t), survive a broken bone (and quite a few that don’t), meningitis (and some who don’t). By now you are getting my drift, at least I hope so. Why, as a society, are we so protective or irrational over cancer survivors and not the others? I survived another go-round with my teenager last night, and so did she. Why isn’t that making the news? Why are we not filling the local news casts with reports and interviews
    from the millions of other cancer survivors?”

    This working TSO, who screens passengers for a living, thinks that cancer survivors deserve no more respect than someone with a common cold! He thinks that the pain and suffering they’ve experienced just to stay alive, the surgical wounds, the missing body parts, don’t deserve any more respect than a guy who had a fight with his daughter! This is who is doing these searches, folks — people like TSO Ron. Go read his posts at Flyertalk, and you will never want to go through a checkpoint again. They think what they are doing is okay…no matter how abusive.

    It’s not only that TSA felt up the chest of a cancer survivor. It’s that TSA is conducting humiliating public examinations of people who are “different”. And their doing it with zero compassion, zero empathy with the suffering they have already experienced. Why should anyone have to be treated this way, just to be able to get from point a to point b?

  • http://profiles.google.com/leeannewrites LeeAnne Clark

    I disagree. When it comes to the TSA, there is no middle road. They are a bloated government agency peopled with abusive thugs who have no respect for basic human rights. They waste 8 billion dollars a year on security theater that not only doesn’t make us any safer, it makes us LESS safe…as we are now subjected to irrational and abusive physical molestations, with no rights, no way to protect ourselves from being assaulted once we have entered the checkpoint. We are at the mercy of uneducated, low-paid, ill-trained goons who have a demonstrated pattern of ignoring civil rights and basic human decency.

    No middle ground there. They need to be stopped…completely.

  • Eric

    I would never travel with a firearm.  Basically because I don’t want to have either the TSA agents or the airline employees steal it out of my bag.  And don’t tell me TSA agent don’t steal.  I wouldn’t put anything more valuable than a tube of toothpaste in my checked bag.

  • PleadTheFourth

    But the biggest “TSA find” story this week wasn’t any of the ones you mentioned.  The biggest thing in the news was the guy who got stopped at JFK with brass knuckles, a dagger, a sword, and stun guns.  In his CHECKED baggage. These things are obviously not a danger to the aircraft.  They can’t be wielded as weapons when they’re in the cargo hold.  TSA is somehow empowered to conduct a search which would be illegal if the cops did it (but TSA gets away with this violation because it’s an administrative rather than a criminal search), but then TSA turns the evidence over to the cops because the crime has nothing to do with transportation safety.  Does no one see the obvious Constitutional loophole here?  I’m beginning to suspect that the real reason TSA exists is to serve as a drug and weapons enforcement arm that doesn’t have to respect the rule of law or the 4th amendment and long-established restrictions on police searches.

  • ButMadNNW

    I also “love” the suggestion that we should congratulate TSO Ron for not inflicting child abuse on or killing his teenager: “I survived another go-round with my teenager last night, and so did she.” Really? That’s the mentality you want to project for the agency you’re defending, Ron?

  • http://profiles.google.com/leeannewrites LeeAnne Clark

    Yup. These are the people feeling our genitals. That’s who they hire. But then, what do you expect when you advertise for jobs on pizza boxes?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jason-Hanna/100000038010477 Jason Hanna

    I’m not anti-TSA.. But.. Yeah.. This is pretty much just PR crap. Is there a higher incidence of guns being caught now? I doubt it.. But if so, it’s probably because more people HAVE guns. People have been getting nabbed going through security with guns since security was put in place, even governors. See Carroll Campbell. It’s nothing new. I’m sure the exact same numbers that got through before get through now, and that’s a very small number. Same percentage gets caught as did pre-TSA.

    If you have to point out the good you do, then that’s because you’re trying to distract from all the bad press. Do good, and people will point it out for you.

  • Brooklyn

    I hate the TSA, but I’m 100% in favor of gun control and I don’t think letting guns on planes is the cause I want to defend. On the contrary: if they’d inspect our luggage and keep their filthy hands and scanners off our bodies, that might be a fair trade.

  • http://www.viaggiareleggeri.com/blog/2148/Carta-prepagata-Ryanair-paghi-anche-se-non-la-usi VL

    Sorry, but “(…) the obsessive search for weapons” does not sound obsessive at all. I have several years in the US, I know how everybody’s very fond of their interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, but in the rest of the planet, guns are seen with a bit less tolerance. Quite a bit, actually. I cannot imagine anybody thinking that stopping weapons before they are boarded is a mistake or even just an “obsession”. It is just a necessary step.

    With this I am not saying that the TSA is not wasting taxpayer’s money in many creative and not-so-clever ways.

  • http://www.facebook.com/sommer.gentry Sommer Gentry

    Unless the passengers had nefarious intent, finding the firearms did no one any good.  TSA costs at least 8 billion dollars per year, or $150 million per week.  So this week TSA found 10 guns, which means we spent fifteen million dollars *each* to catch these entirely irrelevant-to-security weapons violations. 

    TSA was created to detect and thwart terrorist plots: what percentage of these weapons-carrying people were plotting terrorist acts?  At a rate of 10 per week, TSA would have detected about 5000 weapons in carry-on luggage since its inception some 80 billion dollars ago.  Precisely zero of those violators has ever been charged with having plotted a terrorist act.  Meanwhile, at least 16 alleged terrorists passed through TSA’s airport checkpoints on 23 known occasions without being detected.   TSA’s failure rate: 100%.  TSA’s cost: not worth it.

    The systematically abusive mistreatment of innocent travelers, the ritualized sexual humiliation of citizens, is just done for theatrical effect.  TSA has never contributed one positive thing to America and it never will.

  • cjr

    Propaganda Bob, let us know when your agency actually cares about safety, rather than mistreating millions of innocents for your jollies.

  • cjr

    TSA should not be bragging about ANYTHING they do.

    They are there to keep us safe. They are NOT there to thump their chests while trying to sweep under the rug the simple fact that they’ve not stopped a SINGLE terrorist.

    So, let the media do their job in covering these stories. And let Propaganda Bob update his resume and then try and find a real job.

  • cjr

    I do believe as part of that story, the weapons, although checked, were going to be taken somewhere where they would be illegal.

    Still, I wouldn’t trust a TSA agent to be able to know that kind of thing. As it is, they don’t even known their own agency’s rules, much less the laws of a foreign country.

  • Oldsage

    I’m amazed and dismayed. Why do Americans stick with this “guns don’t kill people” mentality, especially on an aircraft? That should be a given. The risk of somebody accidentally or intentionally firing a gun on a plane should be sufficient reason to confiscate a firearm, parts or munitions. I don’t care if they’re turned over to local authorities, just keep them off a plane. Whether it’s the pilot, an air marshall, or drunk uncle Harry, a hand gun discharged at 39,000 feet can depressurize or damage an aircraft, bringing it down. I’m quite pleased to know that the TSA is preventing ordinary thoughtless people from endangering my life because Americans seemingly can’t be without the instant power available to kill someone. Yes, I’m a Canadian and avoid flying on US carriers for several reasons besides the thought of being with cowboys in the sky. ( I’m also a pilot). Hand guns do kill except for a very few who use them for sport the only reason they exist is the provide someone the ability to maim or kill. Americans insist on bringing them everywhere. Thankfully Air Canada and all Canadian carriers (indeed most world airlines)turn anyone who can’t part with their deadly toy and leave it home over to authorities where guaranteed they are prosecuted. General aviation aircraft, autos, motorhomes, will be impounded, and the unfortunate soul will be detained and heavily fined. It is arrogant to think it’s ok to transport these things on aircraft. Bravo to the TSA on this one. Welcome to our beautiful country but respect our laws. The American right to have a well armed militia just doesn’t cut when you into our airports.

  • Oldsage

    I’m amazed and dismayed. Why do Americans stick with this “guns don’t kill people” mentality, especially on an aircraft? That should be a given. The risk of somebody accidentally or intentionally firing a gun on a plane should be sufficient reason to confiscate a firearm, parts or munitions. I don’t care if they’re turned over to local authorities, just keep them off a plane. Whether it’s the pilot, an air marshall, or drunk uncle Harry, a hand gun discharged at 39,000 feet can depressurize or damage an aircraft, bringing it down. I’m quite pleased to know that the TSA is preventing ordinary thoughtless people from endangering my life because Americans seemingly can’t be without the instant power available to kill someone. Yes, I’m a Canadian and avoid flying on US carriers for several reasons besides the thought of being with cowboys in the sky. ( I’m also a pilot). Hand guns do kill except for a very few who use them for sport the only reason they exist is the provide someone the ability to maim or kill. Americans insist on bringing them everywhere. Thankfully Air Canada and all Canadian carriers (indeed most world airlines)turn anyone who can’t part with their deadly toy and leave it home over to authorities where guaranteed they are prosecuted. General aviation aircraft, autos, motorhomes, will be impounded, and the unfortunate soul will be detained and heavily fined. It is arrogant to think it’s ok to transport these things on aircraft. Bravo to the TSA on this one. Welcome to our beautiful country but respect our laws. The American right to have a well armed militia just doesn’t cut when you into our airports.

  • http://www.facebook.com/sommer.gentry Sommer Gentry

    But the issue is that the search wasn’t lawful if it were a search for weapons violations that are unrelated to transportation security.  The TSA is supposedly only there to look for things that could be used in a terrorist attack.  Then, once they use that flimsy reasoning to paw through people’s belongings in a search that police would NEVER be empowered to conduct, the TSA starts finding all kinds of evidence of crimes that have nothing to do with aviation security.    I mean, the TSA’s been reported to have photocopied the entire contents of travelers’ wallets, stealing credit card numbers, counting cash, questioning and detaining a woman at a checkpoint because they suspected her of stealing money from her husband (a completely false and baseless accusation) based on the payor and payee fields of checks she was carrying.  A check is a piece of paper – not a weapon and not a banned item.  The TSA is just acting like an amateur police force with no 4th amendment restrictions on searches!  Screeners are trying, without any understanding of law or policing, to catch all kinds of non-terrorist criminals. 

    I don’t blame screeners for trying to catch non-terrorist criminals – after all, they’ve never caught even one of the terrorists they’re supposedly looking for. Screeners feel worthless, so they try to seem important by busting people for drugs or immigration violations or any other thing they can trumpet in the news.  None of it makes any difference to your safety when you fly.

  • http://www.facebook.com/sommer.gentry Sommer Gentry

    Has anyone else here noted the many similarities between Blogger Bob and Bahgdad Bob http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Saeed_al-Sahhaf    ?  Both men are pathetic shills who told blatant lies in service of their despotic employers, while thousands of patriotic Americans fought heroically to bring their evil regimes to an end.

    On the plus side, Blogger Bob’s increasingly desperate and tone-deaf spin doctoring has become legendary as a sign of TSA’s bunker mentality.  The TSA’s days of abusing innocent people are numbered.

  • http://profiles.google.com/leeannewrites LeeAnne Clark

    Yeah. Didn’t think so.

  • http://profiles.google.com/leeannewrites LeeAnne Clark

    Guns can be stopped from boarding planes without the insanity that takes place now. What gun could I hide under my breast? In the folds of my labia? What gun could a guy hide underneath his penis?

    You don’t need to touch people’s genitalia to prevent guns from being carried on planes. Guns require metal (James Bond movies notwithstanding) – go back to the days of metal detectors and hand-held wands, and we’ll be fine.  It’s the search for explosives and explosives residue that has resulted in all the sexual pawing.

    But the stupidity of THAT is that a determined terrorist could carry on all he needed to blow up a plane today – by using body cavities, which the TSA has not *yet* begun to search. Hence, all this genital-groping is useless and worthless, and does nothing but terrorize, humiliate and traumatize innocent travelers.

    The bottom line is, you cannot eliminate 100% of risk – ANYWHERE. Not on planes, or buses, or subways, or McDonald’s, or malls in middle America. If a terrorist wants to blow people up, there are WAY more effective and efficient ways to do it than to try to sneak weapons onto a plane. The circumstances that led to the 9/11 attacks no longer exist: cockpit doors have been locked and reinforced, and passengers will no longer sit idly by while “hijackers” take over planes. The ONLY two terroristic attempts on airplanes in the last ten years were stopped by…PASSENGERS!

    Airlines have a vested interest in not letting their planes get blown up. Let’s go back to the days when THEY were responsible for keeping their planes safe. Stop wasting 8 BILLION dollars a year in our money, trying to stop something that has a 1 in 25 MILLION chance of happening.

  • http://profiles.google.com/leeannewrites LeeAnne Clark

    And guns haven’t been allowed on planes for decades. Did the 9/11 terrorists use guns? No- they used box cutters and plain old intimidation.

    The TSA is LESS effective at stopping guns than pre-9/11 security! The TSA has failed almost every tested attempt to get guns through their checkpoints. With more people going through the nude-o-scopes, TSA agents are letting things through that never would have gotten through in the past – while at the same time they are harassing innocent women with breast prostheses and passengers with medical devices that appear to be “anomalies”.

    Metal detectors stop guns. Rubbing genitals, poking babies’ diapers, and pawing elderly disabled people does not.

  • Anonymous

    Gun Control? 
    Please define what you consider gun control because uneducated people throw around the term to include “ban all guns.”

    Traveling with a legal weapon in a legal manner is no cause for alarm. My weapon will not hurt you–it is stowed below the aircraft and in a special, hardbacked box that only I have the key to. 

  • Anonymous

    And here comes the anti-second-amendment crowd…

    I am a licensed owner of numerous firearms. I am a law abiding citizen. When a drugged up degenerate gangbanger kicked in my apartment door eight years ago to rob me, he got quite a surprise. He even held his weapon like those idiot gansta rappers–a good clue that he had no idea how to handle it. He took a shot but wasn’t ready for the recoil.

    Anyway, I drew my holster weapon and gave him a nice shoulder wound. Though he ran, the cops caught him. He’s currently incarcerated, hopefully for at least another ten years. 

    Imagine that scenario if this piece of trash had been able to actually hold his weapon effectively and I had been unarmed?

  • Sadie Cee

    I have had two guns pointed at my head.  In the first instance I was merely six years old and being held in my mother’s arms.  My parents were engaged in a custody battle over their three children.  The paid assassin did not pull the trigger saying as he had the gun raised that he had never killed a woman yet and would return the “blood money” and would not carry out the deal.  In the second case, at 17 the gun was inches from my head and the trigger was pulled by an empty-headed woman who did not know whether it was loaded or not.  Thankfully, the owner of the gun had unloaded it before she took it up.  The woman was laughing the entire time.

    These are nightmares that I have had to live with for my entire life.

    Needless to say, I am paranoid about guns and do not take kindly to having them around or near me.  One blogger stated on this site that she had boarded with a gun in her carry-on luggage that had not been detected by TSA!!!  For once, I applaud the TSA and other security forces.  They are doing a great service by taking guns away and handing the parties over to police for possible prosecution.  I dearly hope that publishing these seizures as “successes” or whatever will serve as a deterrent to those who want to travel with their guns.  Any advocacy in favour of gun possession anywhere astounds and horrifies me.

  • Sadie Cee

    He has amnesia?  Is he a good candidate to have a licence to carry this type of weapon?  Just asking.

  • Dave

    Sadie – I hope I never have to go through what you did, but you sound like you would be the type of person to strip responsible gun owners like Raven on this blog of their lawful right to self-defense.

  • Daisymae

    You have completely missed the point.  The point is not whether or not guns should be allowed on planes.  The point is whether or not TSA protects American travellers from terrorists.

    TSA points to the confiscation of a small number of guns as proof that they are doing their job:  protecting us from terrorists.  The fact that not one of these individuals has been charged with terrorism destroys TSA’s justification that they are protecting us from terrorists.

    TSA cannot point to one single instance in which they have protected us from terrorists.  All the TSA did was to confiscate a small number of illegally transported weapons.  That’s all they did…they did not prevent terrorism in doing so since none of these people intended to commit any terroristic acts.

    We don’t need to pay $8 billion a year to detect and confiscate illegally transported weapons.  Pre-TSA security with metal detectors did a better job of that than TSA is doing now…at a far cheaper price than $8 billion dollars per year.  And no one was sexually violated in the process.

  • Daisymae

    You have completely missed the point.  The point is not whether or not guns should be allowed on planes.  The point is whether or not TSA protects American travellers from terrorists.

    TSA points to the confiscation of a small number of guns as proof that they are doing their job:  protecting us from terrorists.  The fact that not one of these individuals has been charged with terrorism destroys TSA’s justification that they are protecting us from terrorists.

    TSA cannot point to one single instance in which they have protected us from terrorists.  All the TSA did was to confiscate a small number of illegally transported weapons.  That’s all they did…they did not prevent terrorism in doing so since none of these people intended to commit any terroristic acts.

    We don’t need to pay $8 billion a year to detect and confiscate illegally transported weapons.  Pre-TSA security with metal detectors did a better job of that than TSA is doing now…at a far cheaper price than $8 billion dollars per year.  And no one was sexually violated in the process.

  • Brooklyn

    And imagine if neither of you had had a gun because they were impossible to get!  I like that scenario better.  If we outlawed guns today, then yes, for a period of time the bad guys would still have them.  But that time would pass, their guns would be confiscated and we’d all be safer like the rest of the Western world!

  • Brooklyn

    Let me be clear: yes, I want to ban all guns.

  • Anonymous

    And imagine a world where rainbows fly out of people’s butts and instead of airlines we all ride around unicorns with free baggage!

    …you can’t be serious…but knowing some of the anti-firearm crowd, I’m guessing you are…

  • Anonymous

    In a perfect world, where there was no war, or crackheads who don’t kick in your doors, or muggers, or carjackers, or other thugs and dangers…I’d agree.

    But I live in reality.
    And all of those bad things exist.

    So, maybe you want to re-evaluate your decision making paradigm on that one.