They canceled his flight twice – are these vouchers enough?

Archie Wong and his family found themselves stranded in Hawaii after American Airlines canceled their flight from Kona to Los Angeles recently.

But how his case was eventually resolved — or maybe it’s more accurate to say not resolved — raise a few interesting questions about airline contracts and duty of care. If those seem like issues best left to the lawyers, you’re in luck: Wong is an attorney based in San Francisco.

Here’s what happened to him: American canceled his red-eye flight from Hawaii to California because of a mechanical problem. The next available flight would leave in a day, and American offered to pay for his hotel and accommodations, which it’s required to do under its contract of carriage.

But that second flight was canceled, too.

“Then I was told, if we could get to Honolulu on our own, they would book us on another airline to our final destination,” he says. “But after I did so, they refused to follow through — ultimately costing me over $4,000 out of pocket.”

American’s response? It apologized, refunded the portion of his unused flight, and offered him $800 worth of flight vouchers.

Is that enough? To Wong, the answer is “no.”

“American did assist other passengers from the cancelled flight with similar accommodations on the carriers I was requesting,” he says.

One family was rebooked on Go! and Hawaiian to Los Angeles at no charge, and two other passengers were also rerouted at no cost from Honolulu. Wong took their names and contact information.

“I understand that American likely feels this is outside the conditions of carriage,” he adds. “But the conditions of carriage do allow in certain circumstances, passengers of canceled flights to be re-routed on other airlines. Furthermore, if American provided assistance to others, they can and should have provided assistance to me and my family. Also, the information that was provided to me by American was misleading and relied upon by me to my detriment.”

Wong wants to be reimbursed for his expenses.

I asked American about Wong’s case. Here’s its response:

They chose to purchase those new tickets on their own, as our reroute options weren’t acceptable to them. This is not something that we would reimburse. They did receive refunds of their original tickets as well as $800 in vouchers as a gesture of goodwill.

So according to American, they would have sent them back to LAX eventually — but just not when they wanted to go.

You know, I’d be more inclined to believe Wong was being difficult if he’d just booked the next flight to the mainland from Kona and demanded a full refund of the fare from American. But he flew to Honolulu at his own expense and waited. I think he was being cooperative.

I’ve been in a similar situation in the past. I think 24 hours is a reasonable amount of time to wait for the next flight on the carrier you’re ticketed on, and after that, you need to start negotiating with your airline about being rebooked on any airline that can get you to your destination. But Wong should have reached an agreement with his airline before he booked his flight home, rather than assuming the carrier would cover his costs after he returned.

Still, did American do enough? Should it cover his extra flight costs. Or did it make the right call on this one?

Update 1:30 p.m.: Some of you have asked about the exact circumstances of Wong’s routing. I asked him about it, and here’s his response:

When I first talked to AA. They said we would be placed on a 3:00 pm flight to LA from Kona and would need to stay overnight in LA to get to SFO. I asked about alternatives, and they said nothing was available that could get us to LA or SFO with earlier flights.

I called back after researching flights and found alternatives. AA then told me the flight was now scheduled at 10:00pm to LA getting in the following morning. When I told them that there were flights from Honolulu to SFO that were available, AA told me that they didn’t partner with any inter-island airlines (which appears to be false), but if we could get to Honolulu on our own, they would rebook the flight to SFO on Hawaiian air.

When I called back again, after having purchased tickets to Honolulu from Kona, they then told me that they would not help us with the tickets from Honolulu to SFO as they did not have an agreement with Hawaiian Air (this also appears to be false).

I relied upon their instructions in purchasing the tickets to Honolulu and ultimately the tickets to SFO. Both the flights that we took to Kona to Honolulu, and from Honolulu to SFO were flights that AA paid for other passengers as re-route options for the cancelled flight. IF AA has actual agreements with Mesa and Hawaiian Air, I think they should honor my request. I believe that they do, and made intentional misrepresentations to me in order to avoid expenses.

  • Ann Lamoy

    I think AA screwed them. Wong is correct-AA does code share with Hawaiian Air (http://www.aa.com/i18n/aboutUs/codesharePartners/main.jsp) so if his account is correct, they should have been able to book him on a direct flight from Honolulu to SFO.

    I don’t blame him for not wanting to take the flight from Hawaii to LAX, stay overnight and then go to SFO. He had already been delayed two days and asking for another day delay? When a direct option was available. Yeah-no.

    i have a suggestion for Mr. Wong. Next time, fly Alaska. I was flying from LAS to SEA on 9/26 on a 7am flight. We pushed back to depart but shortly pulled back to the gate. After 6 hours, they canceled the flight. It was a pain in the ass to rebook (even with multiple flights daily) because everything was close to full. About 1/2 of us got rebooked that night on 3 flights (Delta flight with a stopover in Salt Lake) and one flight departed at 7:50 and the 2nd at 8:30. The rest got out the next day on various flights. Everyone staying overnight was booked in hotels and connecting flights rebooked of course. We also got an $8 lunch and $8 dinner voucher (and I presume the overnight folks got meal money for the next day)

    I got the last flight out and got home at 1am. They had passed out cards with a “we are so sorry for your inconvenience and we would like to offer you miles/a voucher”. I mailed it in and in a couple of weeks got an email apologizing and a $350 voucher good for a year. Considering the RT flight only cost $303, I was more than satisfied. (And I hadn’t even asked for any amount, just asked for a voucher)

    Now that is customer service.

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  • Adam1222

    Well, half the commenters here at the time were saying how wrong it was for AA to “require” him to fly out of HNL, so apparently it does make a difference to other people. You don’t know what other options he was offered, yet you rush to agree with him and attack the airline based on conjecture. Is it possible that there were only 4 other seats on other flights, and the other passengers got them first? You have no idea. Nowhere in the contract of carriage or anywhere else does it say they are obligated to get you on flights you want.

  • Adam1222

    No one says AA “told” him to do that. It says, *if* he did that, when *he* asked them about flights from HNL.

  • http://www.facebook.com/CarverFarrow Carver Clark Farrow

    How do you figure he’s a politician?

  • http://www.facebook.com/CarverFarrow Carver Clark Farrow

    How can it possibly matter what other options AA presented. IF AA presented option 1, 2, and 3, and the OP elected option 3, then AA should honor its word. Options 1 and 2 are by definition irrelevant to the discussion. Option 1 could have been a million dollars. So what.

    Of course, it remains an open question as to whether AA really offered option 3. My hunch is that a ticket agent told him that just to ger rid of him and pass the problem to someone else.

  • JenniferFinger

    Actually, Wong does say that he was told to do that when he asked “them” what to do. So who is this “them/they” who told him? Presumably an AA employee or representative. If it was anyone else, like an outside travel agent, I’d think Wong would bring that up.

  • Adam1222

    In the update, it suggests that he asked AA about flying out of HNL, not that AA proactively told him to go to HNL.

  • Joe_D_Messina

    Lots and lots of flights between Hawaii and the mainland. While theoretically possible there were only 4 other seats available and he just happened to personally connect with the folks who got them, the odds of that seem pretty long. It seems to me you are also using conjecture, just in the opposite direction.

  • Adam1222

    There actually aren’t “lots and lots” of flights from Kona to the mainland. And they did offer him one of those- but he didn’t like the overnight connection in LA it would require him.

    It’s not conjecture to state there may have been other explanations. Its conjecture to assume one path and call people scammers.

  • Adam1222

    It actually has nothing to do with it. American consumers will fly the cheapest airline, regardless of their customer service.

  • Joe_D_Messina

    I never called anyone a scammer. You either have me confused with some other poster or you just want to be combative. And you keep getting hung up on him flying himself to Honolulu. He’s not asking them to pay for that, so it is a non-issue, That opened up his options to a ton of more flights–including flights that he documented other people in his same situation were put on.

  • JenniferFinger

    Sorry, Adam1222, but your semantic arguments don’t work. If he asked AA, who else would have given him the answer? This is not logical.

  • Adam1222

    My apologies that you misunderstood this as a semantic argument, Ms. Finger. No one told him he had to get himself to Honolulu. American offered him a flight option out of Kona. He did not like it. He researched on his own and apparently asked if they would accommodate him on a flight out of Honolulu. This is not, as many people are saying, “forcing him to get himself to Honolulu.” Nor is it American “telling him” to get himself to Honolulu. It is American honoring his own request. This would be the same as me asking an airline to change my flight to a different city, and then saying they “made me” do it. I hope this response meets your logical assessment, as there is nothing “semantic” about it.

  • Adam1222

    My apologies for responding to other people being hung up on him flying himself to Honolulu as a major issue. I agree with you its a non-issue. WHich was the entire point.
    I simply disagree with you that the fact that other passengers got on a flight means they were obligated to buy him tickets on the exact same flight. Fare buckets, etc., are limited. And there is no right to be accommodated on the exact flight you want.
    Cheers.

  • http://elliott.org Christopher Elliott

    This thread is getting a little bit uncivil. Please be nice to one another, folks.

  • BMG4ME

    Thanks for writing this – it spurred me to write to Airtran to get a refund instead of a voucher for a flight that was canceled due to Sandy – and I got the refund without a fight.

  • Tom

    I recently was flying from Bangkok to Jeddah on Sri Lankan airlines. I was told my flight was cancelled and I needed to board another flight that would give me an 18 hr stay in Sri Lanka as appossed to my original one of 4 hrs. I took the flight having no other recourse. When I arrived in Sri Lanka, myself and 3 others were escorted to a lounge and Sri Lankan airlines had paid for arrival visas for us all and transported us to a nice accommodation on the beach for the night. They even paid for all meals and drinks for our stay. I didn’t ask for it, it was a welcome surprise. But that wasn’t it…..the next flight I boarded had mechanical problems and after a few hours more at the airport, the second flight was cancelled. This time busses arrived and they transported us to the center of town and put everyone in a very nice business conference center hotel, and told us to enjoy the night buffet, which was fantastic. I lost two days in travel back to Jeddah, but the airline was very responsive, did these things without me asking for anything, and treated me very well. Was it enough? Loss of 2 days was difficult , but I would venture that between the hotels, meals, and transports, Sri Lankan didn’t make money off my flight, and did a great job in trying to make the extra stay as good as they could. I would fly Sri Lankan again anytime, their customer service was very good, and as I mentioned earlier I never asked for anything