Should hotels advertise “all-in” prices, too?

If you recall last month’s dust-up about airfare pricing, you’ll know that airlines feel singled out by the federal government, which is now requiring them to advertise fares that include all mandatory taxes and fees.

Here are a few details about that dispute. Never mind that other federally-regulated industries have the same pricing requirements, including anyone buying gas, cigarettes or alcohol. Airlines wanted to see other examples in travel, dammit.

And so did readers.

“Spirit’s [CEO] Baldanza is right about one thing,” says Valanie Bradley, “They should make the hotels quote an all-in price, too.”

She sent me screenshots of what she considered the most egregious example of misrepresentation: La Quinta Inns & Suites’ website.

They give you the base price and tell you it does not include applicable taxes or fees — in small print.

I intended to book a room on the La Quinta site, but was so irritated that I went with the hotel I was comparing it with. That hotel is $5 more on the base price and has some mysterious $2 fee, but at least they were up front about the fact that they were charging it.

She’s right. Hotels, which are regulated by the states and not the federal government, don’t really have to show you an all-inclusive rate until you check out.

Many don’t, pointing out that you might charge something to your room, which would change your bill. They also say there are technology reasons for waiting until the very end of the transaction to reveal your price, although I suspect it may be a psychological reason as well. People book cheap rooms, and if you start quoting rates that include taxes and mandatory “resort” fees, they’ll look elsewhere.

I looked at La Quinta’s site, and Bradley is right. Just like the airlines once did it, La Quinta currently quotes a low “base” rate that doesn’t include the required taxes and fees. That makes its rooms appear to be cheaper than they really are.

I asked La Quinta about its rate display. Teresa Ferguson, a La Quinta representative, explained that the display problem was largely technological.

“We do have some limitations in our reservation process that currently do not provide an all-in price prior to a guest providing a credit card,” she told me. “We are working to change this and happy to say that in April through a new site release, guests will be able to see the total price prior to providing their credit card.”

That’s nice, but what about the other hotel chains that continue to dangle a $19 a night rate in front of you — minus taxes, mandatory fees and required “resort fees” that eventually boost the rate to $49 a night? Can’t the government do something about that?

Maybe. If the attorney generals of several tourism-dependent states banded together to file a suit against the major hotel operators, the resulting consent agreement could mean more transparent pricing. They did it in the past on “energy” fees, for example. Also, the Federal Trade Commission could target several big hotel companies for unfair and deceptive practices, and the resulting settlement could have a ripple effect throughout the industry.

Or Congress could do something, putting pricing practices under the control of one of the federal agencies and asking it to regulate how hotel rates are displayed.

Ideally, none of this would be necessary. Instead, hotels would voluntarily display the actual rate you have to pay for a room, including all required taxes and fees. I don’t know of any hotel guests who like to be kept guessing about their final bill, even the most die-hard libertarians.

No one likes surprises.

(Photo: faungg/Flickr)

  • Anonymous

    Beaver Creek charges only if you have a car.  You need to question your charge on your folio.

  • Anonymous

    I believe all mandatory charges should be shown, including taxes.  The tax can vary by location within a city, so this information is still needed to make an informed decision.

    As far as national advertising goes, I defy anyone to show me a chain that quotes a single price for every facility in the entire country.  The taxes at a single property won’t vary depending on where you live; they depend only on where the property is located.

    Of course, the case could be made that this should be the norm for practically every transaction of any type, not just the travel industry.  The only exception would be online or mail-order sales, where the total price can’t be advertised nationally simply because of the plethora of tax rates (ranging from zero to over 14%).  Of course, in this case the tax rate will be the same regardless of the vendor, and the whole purpose is to allow for price comparisons, so no harm is done except to people too stupid to realize there is tax to be added.

  • Andrew F

    It is not about surprise that taxes are being added.  After you live in the U.S. for at least a month, you stop being “surprised” that the price quoted is not the price you pay.  That goes for the vast majority of goods and services, with a few notable exceptions, like gas, cigarettes, and now airlines.  However, U.S. businesses still keep “surprising” customers by the AMOUNT of those additional fees — and yes, taxes.  Sales taxes differ by county; some municipalities tax hotels differently; ditto for car rentals, etc.  Obviously, the business is better than the customer equipped to compute applicable taxes: after all, it does just that many times a day.  So, why doesn’t the business display the full price?

  • Anonymous

    The writer who experienced the amenity charge and was told the justification for the gym, spa, and internet charge was that they were available, reminds me of the story where one fellow, when experiencing the same charge and justification, counter charged the manager for pleasure with his wife.
     
    Manager: “I had nothing to do with your wife… I didn’t even speak to her during her stay.”
     
    Traveler:  “But I’m still charging you because she was available and if you didn’t take advantage of that, you still should be charged.”

  • Andrew F

    That day is already here.  12-pack of soda = $0.60 “deposit”.  Not to mention sales tax…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SYR4YYOAPY4X3UUYLPCADARF3Q emanon256

    The GW was more recent, I am going to call them right now and see if they will adjust it.  Thanks!
    Beaver creek was over a year ago, so I think I am out of luck.
     
    In both cases I did question it and was told that parking is a mandatory fee for all guests.  I even pushed them at the GW and they pushed back that it was a required fee.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SYR4YYOAPY4X3UUYLPCADARF3Q emanon256

    It wouldn’t be the Peabody, would it?  I stayed there twice in 2007; I booked both stays in advance on Expedia before I knew not to use Expedia.   It really was a good deal for a pre-paid room, but…
     
    The first time I had a horrible room, no desk lamp, broken showerhead, just a neglected room in need of major repair.  When I asked to be moved I was told, “Not at the rate you paid.”  I even offered to pay to be upgraded and was told I could not upgrade because I booked through Expedia.  At least at checkout I had no bill.
     
    Second stay (I booked it before the first stay), I was presented with a bill at checkout for taxes and fees of $45 a night.  I told them I pre-paid and was told these are additional fees not covered by Expedia, some of which included breakfast which was quoted by Expedia as included.  I got nowhere with the hotel or Expedia. 
     
    Funny thing is I had a relative stay too, who booked through the hotel.  They had a great experience and no surprise fees.  So I still blame Expedia.  But I think they hotel could have done better too.

  • Anonymous

    Why this TOTAL PRICE ADVERTISING is nonsense. At least to me.

    Here’s one easy example.
    Delta sells airline tickets for travel between New York (JFK) and Venice (VCE), Italy.
    Since Delta is partnered in a TransAtlantic Joint Venure with AirFrance, KLM and Alitalia; then it can route the passenger in multiple ways. For example:

    (a) nonstop JFK to VCE or v.v.
    (b) JFK – Paris (CDG) – VCE or v.v. together with Air France
    (c) JFK-Amsterdam (AMS) – VCE or v.v. together with KLM
    (d) JFK – Rome (FCO) – VCE or v.v. together with Alitalia

    So let’s day Delta has a certain U booking class weekday fare with a base of $409 Roundtrip.
    Delta also charges a fuel sucharge (YQ) of $496 Roundtrip.
    So all in all Delta pockets 409 + 496 = $905 on its U class weekday fare.

    But today Delta  cannot legally advertise the U class fare as $905 plus tax.
    It must advertise it as the TOTAL AMOUNT INCLUDING TAX.
    So now Delta has a problem because the TOTAL PRICE is different depending on which route one takes.

    (a) nonstop JFK to VCE  R/T FARE:905   TAX:  79.80   TOTAL: $ 984.80
    (b) JFK – Paris (CDG) – VCE R/T FARE:905   TAX:153.40   TOTAL: $1058.40
    (c) JFK-Amsterdam(AMS)-VCE R/T FARE:905   TAX:119.80   TOTAL: $1024.80
    (d) JFK – Rome (FCO) – VCE R/T FARE:905   TAX:116.60   TOTAL: $1021.60

    Now remember, Delta can mix and match your routing. You can go a different route outbound and inbound with the same base fare, but the TAXES ARE DIFFERENT. Delta cannot simplify its ads. It now must adjust its ads depending on the specifc routing that is available.

    As you can see above, the CONSUMER can easily LEARN that nonstop route has the least tax.
    France’s tax is more than the Netherlands and and Italy in that order.
    In fact you can see that France charges you another $74.10 for simply transiting their CDG airport.

    I really don’t think Americans are that dumbed down. They can easily appreciate prices displayed in this format:

    MY pocket $ xxx + GOVT’s pocket $yyy = TOTAL out of YOUR pocket $ zzz

  • Anonymous

    I can see them saying it was mandatory if you had a car.  I would still question it if you didn’t have one.

  • http://www.pipdigital.com Nancy Dickinson

    To bed honest, while your question is certainly expected, I’d rather not say.  Given I’m preparing to go there for an article, I don’t want to ruffle any feathers.

    Also, I take complaints with a grain of salt always.  It doesn’t matter what you do to please someone, there will always be someone you just can’t please.

    I thought, though, the complaint about being nickeled and dimed to death was a valid one.  The poster compared it to renting a car – and we ALL know what that’s like.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SYR4YYOAPY4X3UUYLPCADARF3Q emanon256

    It’s not the same as a sold good like food.  The parking lot is a capital cost. Aside from building the lot itself, it’s hard to put a price on it, like you can put on food.  Security is patrolling more than just the parking area.  We re-sealed the lot every other year and anticipated re-surfacing it every 5 years. Insurance was negligible.  I know this as I used to manage a facility where we commissioned and build a parking structure.  After the initial cost, there was very little overhead cost related to parking other than capital expenditures where are no different than those related to hotel hallways or maintenance rooms.  What I am trying to say is the cost of the parking lot does not change whether or not a guest uses it. So why charge extra, unless you are in a high demand parking area where everyone else charges too.
     
    What my problem is, is when a hotel offers $X a night, then tacks on the parking fee after you arrive.  Especially when it’s mandatory.  I wish I remembered the hotel in Wisconsin that did that, that was many years ago.
     
    Yes I realize it’s mandatory if it’s folded into the price, but at least I know the price in advance, and that’s all that I ask.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SYR4YYOAPY4X3UUYLPCADARF3Q emanon256

    They agreed to credit back $30 per night to my credit card on file!!!!
     
    In both cases I told them I did not have a car.  In Maui we took a taxi, and in Beaver Creek we carpooled with another couple who was staying at the Hayat.

  • Anonymous

    There is a huge distinction to be made between requiring hotels to disclose their own fees immediately and requiring them to disclose taxes immediately. I have said all along that I strongly oppose mandatory resort fees and feel that those should be required to be rolled into the base rate. When it comes to taxes and fees charged by the government that the property doesn’t pocket, I’m less upset (and to the extent that the taxes make me angry, I blame the government rather than the business).

    Looking at all of the products and services offered for sale, it is by far the exception for an “all-in” price to be quoted up front. Almost every item you buy in a store doesn’t post the price including sales tax, for example. Gasoline, alcohol, and tobacco are the exceptions to some extent, but gasoline is the only item I can think of in which the price on the pump is the final price you pay and includes all taxes. Alcohol and tobacco may have some taxes rolled into the base price, but (at least in places I’m familiar with) you still pay sales tax on top of the posted price.

  • Anonymous

    The resort fees in Vegas have gotten out of hand. I was just there and it’s not just that the fees are sky-high, but you really get very little for them. $20 or more a night gets you WiFi but no free access to a business center (so if you don’t have your own laptop, it’s useless to you), access to the pool (gee, thanks, it’s 65 during the day and 45 at night – I’ll get a ton of use out of that in February), and some other things that are downright useless. I was just at the Mirage and would have had to pay $20 a night in resort fees if my room hadn’t been comped; I didn’t scrutinize the amenities too closely but I do know that $20 didn’t even include a lousy bottle of water per night. I could’ve gotten one from the minibar for $10 though…what a deal.

  • Anonymous

    Great!!

  • Anonymous

    If taxes were equal across the board, I’d agree.  But they need to be shown even if broken out when booking.  It makes it much easier to avoid, whenever possible, cities that have stadium taxes and other nonsense jacking up a room rate 20% or more.

  • Anonymous

    But the deposit is no surprise, either.  (It’s $1.2o a twelve pack in Michigan - but no sales tax for food – even soda)   

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UJC5HI5WQKB6P56XX7IOTMJKYA Faboo Frank

    I think the issue isn’t taxes.  Most hotel web sites make a statement like “Hotel taxes of 8% and local taxes of 7% will be added.”  That should be fine.  What needs to be disclosed, and not in microscopic print, is the “resort” fees and parking fees.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HMW3OTJSBDWWRKIEKEKWWM7BEA bc

    Yes, this is only true with regards to GOODS, which are generally taxed at the purchasers local tax rate, which is known. Hotels and airlines and rental cars are all services. 

    Can the average consumer tell you the tax rate for a San Francisco hotel room is? How about the airport tax for a trip from San Francisco to New York? NO. Could you even figure this out without a ton of research? 

    I see your answer is basically just keep government out of business. I see how that has worked for the average consumer with airline deregulation. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HMW3OTJSBDWWRKIEKEKWWM7BEA bc

    Why do you prefer to have taxes not included? Do you prefer to have things more difficult when you purchase things? I can understand goods we purchase that are subject to sales tax (though I prefer the VAT system where those prices are included) but when you have something like airline taxes and hotel taxes which VARY TREMENDOUSLY why would not want to know what your end cost will be up front? 

    I can only assume you really drank the koolaid and believe the government is trying to ‘hide’ taxes. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HMW3OTJSBDWWRKIEKEKWWM7BEA bc

    Your example is exactly WHY we need total advertised pricing. Your solution requires a consumer to price 4 separate itineraries to find the lowest price and at a minimum 79.80 is hidden cost of the air travel. 

    What’s wrong with an airline saying Prices From 984.80 instead of saying prices starting from 905+tax? 

    The only purpose is to make  prices more opaque and more difficult to research and thus is bad for consumers. 

  • Anonymous

    The hotels will probably claim that they can’t post the total fees on their websites because the taxes and fees are based on where the hotel is located and the website can’t keep track of the ever-changing taxes, etc. being charged in every locale. I am continually amazed at how much taxes are added to a hotel room. It truly is taxation without representation because i don’t live where the taxes are charged.

  • Anonymous

    Why should I have to take a charge back on my credit card for optional fees? If a fee is “optional” then I don’t want to be charged that fee – period.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HMW3OTJSBDWWRKIEKEKWWM7BEA bc

    All your answers allow airlines to continue to hide the true cost of their travel and advertise the lowest possible prices making prices more difficult to compare. This is 100% in favor of airlines and TAs like you, which is why you advocate for a broken system. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HMW3OTJSBDWWRKIEKEKWWM7BEA bc

    It’s reasons like this, just posted today, why your rational is wrong. If there is a way for an airline to hide the cost of their service in fine print they will do so. 

    http://consumerist.com/2012/02/allegiant-air-fined-100k-for-running-afoul-of-dots-new-airline-rules.html 

  • Anonymous

    It is not about can computers be programmed to display a price including tax…I’m sure they can.

    I would prefer that ANYTHING we purchase be quoted WITHOUT tax, (including gas). I believe this makes us more aware of the tax burden we are paying and makes it harder for the government to slip new taxes in.

    I do not understand why people are surprised when a $99 airline ticket is not $99 once the government imposed taxes and fees are added in. Now…just like I stated with hotels and resort fees, if the AIRLINE imposes a mandatory fee on top of the $99 (Spirit and their “fuel” charge)…I believe that should be part of their quote.

    If the tax breakout is available on the purchase screen for those that are interested…how many people will click to expand that? The same number of people who check the tax breakout at the gas pumps.

  • Anonymous

    Never assume, that’s a great rule in life. I am far from a koolaid drinker, I just prefer that we are more aware of the taxes that we are paying.

    I am also a fairly intelligent person. If I see something advertised for $1 and I know the tax rate is 5%, I can quickly estimate that I’ll probably pay $1.05. It really is not that difficult. I can do larger more complex numbers as well. 

    As far as hotels and airline tickets go. If I see three airlines quoting three different fares for the same itinerary and taxes and government fees were not included, the least expensive fare will have the cheapest end cost. (If price was my motivation.) If the price then was not to my liking, I would be able to simply not continue the purchase and blame it on the taxes…not the airline.

    Same principle for hotels, if the $99 cost became inflated to $129 due to various government entities taxing that room, I would be able to choose to NOT click the reserve button if if I so choose…and blame it on the tax.

  • Anonymous

    Why just travel related industries? 

  • Anonymous

    But if you saw narrowed your choice down to two hotels in San Fran with a $20 difference, would not the difference still be about $20 (slightly more) in the end after the taxes?

    Nothing wrong with quoting a room rate without taxes, just quote me the taxes on said room before I click the “reserve” button.

  • Anonymous

    Why is it so difficult to compare? If the same bicycle is $20 cheaper at Target vs. Wal Mart next door, the taxes won’t suddenly make it more expensive at Target. Nothing is being hidden from you.

  • Anonymous

    I voted NO for a reason.  Every state, county and city in the USA has it’s own hotel tax and sales tax, there are over 8,000 sales tax rates in the USA.  How can you include that rate in an advertisement?   The tax on an airline ticket is the same if you buy it in BOS or LAX but the hotel tax is Boston is 14.45% and in LAX it is 15.5%.  But a tax is a TAX that is COLLECTED AND  REMITTED in full to a CITY, COUNTY, STATE, or other GOVERNMENT agency.  It is not a tax imposed on a business that is then passed onto the customer.  Car rentals call “car registration fees” a tax when it is not.

    Fees that are just that “fees” a/k/a  “OTHER REVENUE SOURCES” should be required to be disclosed to the customer as part of the sales price.  Like madatory valet services, parking fees, spa fees, internet fees, lounge fees, etc  If not disclosed the CUSTOMER MUST HAVE THE OPTION TO OPT OUT!

  • Anonymous

    I had a parking fee in CA once and found out that the Handicap parking which was right in front of the hotel was not in the garage so they could not charge me a parking fee.  We never used the garage once and they never gave us a pass kee for it. glad my guest had a HP plate with them

  • Anonymous

    @BC:disqus  I don’t understand how folks like you shop for airline tickets.

    I just sold 3 tickets to Europe (multi-city).

    I gave the customer my suggested itinerary and the complete auto-pricing details as they appeared in my GDS.

    PNR PRICED ON 15FEB FOR TKTG ON 15FEB
    * NONREF/SAPEX/NONREF/PENALTY APPLIES
    * PRICING RULES VALIDATING CARRIER DEFAULT AF
    * SURCHARGE APPLIED *
    ** TICKETING WITHIN 72 HRS AFTER SEGMENT SELL REQUIRED **
    * FARE MAY CHANGE UNLESS TICKETED *

    TICKET BASE USD TX/FEE USD TKT TTL USD
    ADT03 1147.00 781.40 1928.40
    *TTL 3441.00 2344.20 5785.20

    FBC ADT NHWB68US*UHWB62US
    ADT NYC AF PAR S100.00 AF AJA M429.60/-AHO AZ X/ROM AZ LON S
    100.00 DL NYC M517.00NUC1146.60END ROE1.00AF XT33.40US
    5.00XA2.50AY22.40FR1.30IZ13.90QW1.90EX13.20HB11.70IT1.50MJ
    4.80VT102.50GB54.30UB496.00YQ4.50XF JFK4.5
    TX 5.50YC 7.00XY 33.40US 5.00XA 2.50AY 22.40FR 1.30IZ 13.90QW
    1.90EX 13.20HB 11.70IT 1.50MJ 4.80VT 102.50GB 54.30UB
    496.00YQ 4.50XF

    If I get you right, I should have just said it cost you $1928.40 each, period.  But I didn’t. I gave them the WHOLE PICTURE, every detail I can throw at them. Guess what. They bought immediately and I charged them a booking fee.

    The government and most so-called consumer advocates do not know HOW TO DO MY JOB. And, you can’t tell me how a travel agent SHOULD work to help their clients. In my case, I hid nothing. All they got was timely and excellent service.

    I repeat, Americans are NOT STUPID. They can add numbers.

  • Anonymous

    I believe the government regulations do not allow the “taxes from” statement…but it may be not that simple…after all it is a government regulation. I think I recall reading Airtran got hit with a fine about something similar earlier this year.

    As you can probably guess from my other replies, I would be fine with the statement “prices from at $905 plus tax”. :)

  • Nigel Appleby

    I wholeheartedly agree. Every vendor, not just airlines and hotels but rental car companies and all retailers etc should display and/or advertise the full price which is about to hit your credit card. It has long been a desire of mine

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OEPJGQPIEB75YYDE5CJY6R3VFE Carver Clark Farrow II

    I respectfully disagree.

    Most of your purchases are undoubtedly in the county that your live in or work in.  After 2 or 3 days you know the tax rate of and ought not to be surprised

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OEPJGQPIEB75YYDE5CJY6R3VFE Carver Clark Farrow II

    You completely misunderstand my post as well as the article you cite.  Allegiant was fined for outright lying.  That’s not what this discussion is about.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OEPJGQPIEB75YYDE5CJY6R3VFE Carver Clark Farrow II

    “I see how that has worked for the average consumer with airline deregulation.”

    Yes, deregulation has given us lower prices so that regular folks can fly instead of a privileged few.  If you prefer the time when it you need to mortgage your first born child to be able to afford an airline ticket, I can’t help that.

    “I see your answer is basically just keep government out of business.”

    Not at all.  Again, you need to read closer.  My solution is that government intervention is appropriate to the extent that consumer’s need protection.  When consumers do not need protection, the market is a better determiner.

    Your problem is that if you don’t agree 100 percent, you are unable to concede that we actually do agree on some points.

  • Anonymous

    Perfectly worded (by a lawyer) !

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OEPJGQPIEB75YYDE5CJY6R3VFE Carver Clark Farrow II

    I’m not a TA.  In fact, I’m one of the harshest critics of TAs.  The gasoline example is flawed.  IF the gas was advertised at $1.00+ tax per gallon, you would have pumped the gas before you were presented the full cost.  There is no way to decline the purchase after its in your tank.  Thus consumer’s need protection.  However, if the consumer can decline the purchase after being presented with the full cost, i.e. base cost plus government taxes, I’m good.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OEPJGQPIEB75YYDE5CJY6R3VFE Carver Clark Farrow II

    2 points.

    The capital cost has to be recovered somehow.  Thus the charge is appropriate.

    I agree 100 percent that a mandatory parking fee is BS and is wrong wrong wrong.  No argument from me there.

  • Ann Lamoy

    The biggest problem with this is the product comes from a centralized manufacturer that generally attaches a price tag with the suggested retail price (which stores tend to follow). Each state has their own sales tax rate and many cities charge a rate on top of that so it wouldn’t be practical to have the price tags on retail goods reflect the price with tax included. (And in order to have it reflect the correct price, the store would have to have the employees retag everything-costing more labor and driving up prices)

    I am all for posting signs stating that X% will be charged on these items for sales tax. This would give any shopper with even half a brain the ability to figure out how much the item were to cost-especially if they were not from that area. (Most cell phones come with a calculator. And if they didn’t have one, they could always ask.)

    Booking a hotel is different since you are doing it on a website-and the coding could be written once (and the fees changed easily if they were changed by the city/state).

  • Anonymous

    What if the sign at the road said $2.50/gal and when you got to the pump, before you started pumping you saw the price with tax was $3.50? You would have the option to not buy if you so chose. (I’m sure you would get used to that fairly quickly as well.)

    Maybe I’m missing something, but at what point in the airline example did anyone ever have to pay government fees and taxes AFTER purchasing the airfare?  (Except for those countries that collect taxes at the airport.)

  • Anonymous

    I’ve been using this site for years…maybe this is why I am having difficulty sympathizing with the “include all taxes in quote” crowd. ITA really itemizes it nicely. 

    I generally use their site and then go to the airline’s website directly…no surprises.

  • Anonymous

    I agree. But this is not consistent with airline pricing under the new rules. Should both be held at the same standard? Should that standard be the norm in the US for most goods and services or the “sin tax” model for gas and cigs?

  • http://www.tourist-destinations.com/ Tourist

    I think they should, because in that way they can offer better packages instead of making offers out of the sleeves.

  • http://www.tourist-destinations.com/ Tourist

    I think they should, because in that way they can offer better packages instead of making offers out of the sleeves.

  • Anonymous

    I did not state JUST travel industries should quote a complete total. 

    I was answering the specific question and extending it to other travel related things.  There is no simple tax rate for travel services as many others have pointed out here.  It is not possible to do like you do when you purchase something where you live and you know what the tax rate is and add in that simple calculation so you know what you will pay.  

    I think the European way of including the tax in the presented price of everything is a good way of preventing surprises when you pay.  If it say 5 euro on the tag, that’s what you pay.  Not 5 euro plus 5% or whatever the tax rate is.

  • Anonymous

    Nothing says the airline must post EVERY fare from point A to B.  Only that the specific fare advertised or otherwise presented must include taxes.  So they could choose any one of those four fares to advertise, probably the lowest total cost one, and state this is for the specific itinerary and others are available at different prices.  I don’t see a problem with this.

    On the web site, there is no reason they could not have all four listed and let the traveller choose.  If they did not include the taxes at the selection time, they all appear to be the same price and the traveller might end up choosing the most expensive option and never know there were less expensive options.

  • Anonymous

    You gave the customer a total that included the taxes (don’t know about baggage fees and other options.)  You did exactly what the law requires the airlines to do.

    You didn’t say the tickets were $1147 each and then after they provided you the credit card say “Oh, there is $781.40 in taxes you also have to pay.”  I bet your clients would have reacted a lot differently if that was the approach you used.