Refund-less after six months: “I feel as though we have been taken advantage of”

Everyone knows airline refunds can take a long time. But how long is too long? A month? Three months? Six months?

If you said more than half a year, then meet Haley Richards and her husband, Eric, who have been patient — very patient — with Mexicana Airlines and Travelocity, their online travel agent. And now they’re done.

Here’s what happened to the Richards: Shortly after booking their tickets from Denver to Oaxaca, Mexico, last spring, they got a call from Travelocity, telling them that their outbound flight to Mexico City had been canceled by Mexicana. The couple booked an alternate flight through their online agent. Or so they thought.

On July 22, 2009, we arrived at Denver International Airport and attempted to check in for our flight with American Airlines. We were told that American Airlines did not have us confirmed for their flight. We were informed that Mexicana Airlines needed to re-issue our tickets.

Eventually, American Airlines insisted that the only way they would be allowed to board is if they paid an extra $527 for a one-way ticket to Mexico City, which, they promised, Mexicana would reimburse. The Richards felt they had no choice but to buy the new ticket.

We have pursued reimbursement for the $527 with both Travelocity and Mexicana Airlines since then, and neither airline will assume responsibility for the problem.

We have been advised repeatedly to pursue action with the other airline. We recently submitted a claim through the travel protection insurance plan that I purchased when I bought the tickets, but I am uncertain of whether or not this situation would count as a “trip interruption” according to the insurance policy.

I feel as though we have been taken advantage of to some extent, especially by the way that the airline and Travelocity seem to blame someone else. Clearly, the transaction was broken somewhere along the way when flights were changed.

I had a confirmation of tickets, and I had no reason to doubt that I was confirmed on any specific portion of our flight. I feel as though we are being penalized for purchasing the tickets to continue with our much-anticipated vacation, and we do not feel it is fair or good customer service to penalize us for a mistake that was not our doing. Essentially, we had to pay for that flight twice.

I agree that six months is way too long to wait for a refund, and that as her travel agent, Travelocity should have taken the lead in securing a prompt refund for the Richards. The couple might have considered sending a brief, polite email to a Travelocity executive, but I could see from their correspondence that they’d done everything they could, short of alerting the media.

I contacted Travelocity on behalf of the refund-less customers. A few days later, I heard back from Richards.

I received a call yesterday from Travelocity’s executive office, and they shared that they will be reimbursing me in full for the cost of the extra ticket I had to purchase. It is supposed to be credited to my credit card in the next three to five days.

The woman I spoke with mentioned your name, and she apologized for the lack of responsibility the consumer relations department accepted in my situation.

Thank you for contacting them on my behalf. It feels great to finally get reimbursed after seven months.

I’m glad Travelocity did the right thing — eventually.

(Photo: graymalkn/Flickr Creative Commons)

  • http://waynedayton.tripod.com Wayne Dayton

    Mexicana is SUPPOSED to be a partner or a wannabe partner of American in OneWorld. This type of situation exemplifies why they were unceremoniously booted out of Star Alliance previously. Very poor customer service, and no responsibility for their actions. This is one of a list of very few airlines that I will NEVER fly again so long as I live. Mexicana should have simply endorsed their tickets over to AA as an involuntary reroute; it is clear that they did not. Rather than wait and wait and wait, I would have taken them to Small Claims Court if a refund had not been forthcoming within 90 days.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    Another example of dealing with an online travel agency. If the Richards had book directly with an airline or used a traditional brick & mortar professional travel agent, I doubt that they would have waited six months for a refund…I doubt that they would had to purchase a ticket at the airport.

  • Robert Davis

    Arizona Road Warrior si correct. IMHO, third party travel companies are not worth the potential for screw ups.

  • Jamie LaMoreaux

    They OUGHT to be receiving six months interest on their money as well, AND penalty charges. after all if you don’t pay your bill for six months, you are charged interest and penalties so why shouldn’t companies have to pay it to you?

  • Duke Nukem

    Well, at least Mexicana won’t charge you for the first bag and “probably” will give out a bag of peanuts, perhaps some airline food if you’re lucky! And before you think I’m defending them, their stupid policies along with Aeromexico’s LATE ARRIVAL made me miss a Mexicana flight, so I do simpathize with the OP.

  • David Z

    Quite frankly, we’ve had our share of problems dealing with Mexicana Airlines. And I sometimes wonder why our travel agency still sells flights for them!

  • http://www.odysseyworld.com Preston McKinney

    This is what happens when you deal with an online travel agency such as Travelocity or Expedia instead with a professional travel agent who would have booked your trip with a tour operators that would have insured that your trip would have been much smoother. The tour operators that we deal with keep us updated on any schedule changes including cancelled flights. The cost may be slightly higher but probably the same cost plus you are dealing with a professional travel agent compared to a call center in India.

  • LeeAnne

    Christopher “Corleone” Elliott comes through yet again, in his neverending quest to stop the big bad greedy travel companies from stealing money from us poor beleaguered passengers who want nothing more than to pay the price we’re quoted, and actually get what we paid for.

    Wouldn’t it be nice if it DIDN’T take the impliled threat of public exposure and humiliation by a famed travel ombudsman for these companies to NOT rip off their customers? But then we live in the real world, not utopia. In the real world, greedy corporations will put the screws to unethically squeeze money out of the “little people” every chance they get, until somebody publicly calls them out on it…and then they’ll do an about-face faster than you can say “Dave Carroll.” After all, no corporation wants to lose $180 million dollars due to one pissed-off customer, the way United did after Dave’s viral “United Breaks Guitars” video!

    Keep up the good work, Christopher.

  • Zally

    Not sure where some of you people are getting your information from, but Mexicana did nothing wrong here. Sure, they canceled a flight, but that’s for the travel agency to clear up and refund. If Expedia failed to rebook the passengers correctly, then they will need to take responsibility for their actions… Again, nothing to do with Mexicana.

    Also, what gives an American Airlines agents the right to dictate what Mexicana should refund?!?!?! Huh? That’s like you going to BestBuy and saying Zally said I could get a refund on this here old computer… That’s just silly… Clearly this agent told you this to get you to part with your money. And it worked.

  • LeeAnne

    @Preston McKinney – Are you seriously suggesting that it makes any sense whatsoever to book a simple commercial flight with a full-service travel agency? Who does that these days? Nobody I know. It’s just a flight, not a “tour.” Why would anyone pay more money for a simple flight, just to have a travel agent book it for them? Anyone can book a flight easily online, either with the airline itself (my preference) or an online agency (I agree with others – what’s the benefit?). If the schedule changes, the airline (or your online agency) should notify you. And if your flight gets cancelled, whomever you bought the ticket from (carrier or online agency) is responsible for ensuring you get from point A to point B, at NO ADDITIONAL COST because…ya know…you already bought that ticket, which is a contract. If the carrier can’t come through and get you there, they have to put you on another airline that WILL get you there. Them’s the rules. Absolutely no need for a full-service travel agent.

    Zally’s actually right here. The OP bought their tickets from Travelocity. Travelocity should have done their job, and booked them onto another flight, at no additional cost to them. They said they did…but they didn’t. So they were the ones responsible for refunding them the additional money they were forced to pay to get them to their destination.

    This could just as easily have happened with a full-service TA. ANY time you have a third party in between you and the airline, that adds a layer of complexity…especially when it comes to refunds.

    Book with the airline direct. Then, if the airline cancels a flight, you have only one company to deal with – the airline. They’ve gotta get you to the place they said they would get you…or give you all your money back.

  • Annette

    Yes some agents charge service fees for making bookings. Some don’t. So booking a simple flight isn’t necessarily going to cost you more when you deal with a travel agent.

    But the point to why a travel agent might be helpful is more than just money. An actual, real travel agent should act as your advocate to try and get situations like these resolved. When you book by yourself that’s all you are to the airline (or hotel, or tour operator or cruise line) – one person. When you book with an agent then you’ve got the weight of all the agency’s bookings behind you. This SHOULD, in theory, be something in favour of Travelocity, but that would require actually providing some sort of customer service.

  • Carver

    @Zally

    I suspect it wasn’t so much that AA was dictating as explaining what would likely happen. And it happened exactly as AA saidd, even if it did a while.

  • http://www.air-savings.com sonny chatrath

    @Lee Anne

    Even if the ticket was purchased directly from Mexicana, or American, this situation could have taken place. You obviously don’t recognize the importance of dealing with a professional. Why don’t people fight their own cases in court, or fix their own teeth, or fix their own cars? the information is readily available on the web. I will tell you why, it is for the simple reason that one should deal with professionals instead of trying to do things which they have little knowledge of. Unfortunately, with travel it seems these websites (I own a travel site too) make people feel that they can do the research, and book their tickets online without having to pay a service fee. That’s why most online sites don’t charge you a service fee, because they don’t provide you any service. Had the tickets been purchased from a traditional travel agent, he/she would have got in touch with the validating carrier, and got an authorization to re-issue the ticket w/o any add-collect, as it was an involuntary change, but why pay the $10 – $25 extra? Right? I would say just this, as I have said a million times earlier, Without a travel agent you are really on your own. When I have to paint my house, I get a painter I could paint it myself, but why should I? to save a couple of hundred dollars? I would only have myself to blame if the look and feel of the house if all messed up. I hope I made my point. I received 4 refund checks from Delta for a client whose flights from Salt Lake City to New York were canceled due to a snow storm, the whole process took 4 weeks. Not only that, I issued tickets for him on another carrier. I have thousands of cases I could mention here, but I am sure Chris would ban me for filling up this forum. If your comments are an indication of the trend, then god help travel agents.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ Zally – you are right…airlines cancel flights, change flights and etc. all of the etc. Maybe Mexicana has a history of more cancelled flights than the average airlines or poor customer service but that is not the point. The point is that the tickets were purchased through Travelocity and Travelocity should have resolved the problem but they didn’t.

  • LeeAnne

    ::::sigh::::

    @Sonny, you are the umpteenth travel agent who has shown up on this blog touting the benefits of your business.

    And I am the umpteenth traveler who has responded back to you and your ilk that people with a modicum of travel experience (and brain cells) can quite easily handle our own basic travel arrangements without paying extra for a “professional”. It doesn’t take a professional to buy a plane ticket. It really doesn’t. I know times are tough out there and you need the business, but the reality is that most of us who post regularly on this blog really don’t need you…at least, not for basic travel.

    Now I’ll be the first to call my favorite brick-and-morter TA when I’m going to do something elaborate, such as my trip to Machu Picchu and the Galapagos this past October, or my trip to Hong Kong & Bali the previous year. These are both multi-stop trips involving multiple modes of travel (planes, trains, private drivers), going to exotic locations where I’m not familiar with the language or customs, and I want to work with someone who can best help me put all the puzzle pieces together. I have nothing but respect and admiration for the travel professionals who can take a complex itinerary and make it work, with a minimum of stress for the traveler.

    But a flight to Mexico? Please. :::rolling eyes:::

    I’ve traveled all over the world, and have done MOST of my arrangements myself. I’ve had hiccups, but I’m quite capable of figuring out what to do and handling them. I’ve had flights canceled; I’ve had impossible connect times that I had to demand changing; I’ve had delays, lost luggage, yadda yadda. I have never found myself in a situation in which I wished I’d used a TA. I’ve been in a few situations in which I was glad I HAD used a TA – like the time when we missed our flight from Hong Kong to Bali and had no idea how to get in touch with the private driver who was meeting us in Denpasar, so our TA was able to get hold of him and rearrange everything.

    But a simple flight to Mexico? Please. Seriously.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ sonny chatrath – “If your comments are an indication of the trend, then god help travel agents.”

    I think that the traditional brick & mortar travel agents have done a very poor job in marketing their value to the public. Also, there are several traditional professional travel agents that are just order takers. People don’t see any value with traditional brick & mortar travel agents; therefore, they flock to Expedia, Travelocity, Hotels.com, Priceline and etc. in the hope to save money. Talk about order takers!!! If they are problems before or during your trip, typically, you are SOL with these online websites. If you look at Chris articles, it seems like most of the problems that he is solving are from these online websites.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ LeeAnne – “And I am the umpteenth traveler who has responded back to you and your ilk that people with a modicum of travel experience (and brain cells) can quite easily handle our own basic travel arrangements without paying extra for a “professional”.”

    I travel for business (over 100 flights a year) and I have been booking my flights since the mid\late 90′s and I agree with you that travelers with ‘solid’ travel experiences can book basic travel arrangements. In this case, I doubt that Richards or the travelers in most of the cases that Chris Elliot writes about falls into that category.

    In regards to Travelocity, they do not charge a booking fee when making an airline only booking. The airlines are not paying commissions to travel agents anymore. Unless Travelocity is using airline only bookings as a loss leader or marking up the fare somehow, how is Travelocity making money? In the case of the Richards, not providing services to rebook the cancelled flight, taking care of the problem when the Richards were at the airport and the refund.

    However, I do use the services of a travel when I travel overseas because they do offer services that are valuable or even invaluable.

  • http://www.travelocity.com Joel

    Chris, we have a new VP of Sales and Customer Care. Scott Quigley (scott.quigley@travelocity.com)