Ramada insider: the customer isn’t always right

The customer isn’t always right.

That’s the message from a Ramada hotel employee who read my recent recommendations about how to complain more effectively. So what’s going on behind the scenes when a complaint comes in? And is it true that Ramada has a quota for customer grievances?

I asked, and my Ramada insider answered. Here’s the full interview.

Q: What’s the fastest way to get a complaint resolved at a Ramada hotel?

Ramada Insider: Don’t complain. Just kidding.

Seriously, the fastest way to get a complaint resolved is to talk about the situation to a worker on the property and seeing what can be done to resolve it. Usually, that ends up in some form of compensation. That’s all that will satisfy some people.

Q: When someone complains about your property, what’s happening behind the scenes?

Ramada Insider: If a call comes in, we will try and get the guest to talk to a manager or manager on duty to see if anything can be done at that time. If a manager is not available, they can leave a message so that he or she can call back. We listen to the complaint and apologize for any deficiency in their stay and assure them that the matter will be looked into — and we always mean that.

Sometimes a guest is satisfied there, other times they want some form of compensation from either 10 percent off [that we guarantee] to a full nights stay off, and sometimes a full stay free. That just happened.

Q: What if it comes through corporate?

Ramada Insider: Corporate will briefly sum it all up and fax it to us, where it is reviewed. A manager can call, write or email the guest and all of the above happens. It usually takes much longer on this level as well as a lot more effort to resolve.

Q: Can you describe the relationship between your corporate parent and the hotel when it comes to complaints?

Ramada Insider: The customer is always right. That’s corporate Ramada’s belief. It doesn’t always work for us.

Q: I’ve heard that franchises have a quota for complaints. How does that work?

Ramada Insider: That’s true. The number is determined by how many rooms were sold in the previous year (at least for Ramada hotels…shhhh). I don’t know our number, but once it’s over the number the hotel is charged for just processing the complaint — whether it is legit or not.

Q: Does it matter if the complaint is filed by email or phone? Sent to you directly or to the corporate office?

Ramada Insider: We recommend calling the hotel first trying to get it settled because the hotel is where the problem occurred, and that is where the problem needs to be fixed. Calling or e-mailing both work equally as well.

Calling corporate makes us scared most of the time that the guest is extremely upset and we’re upset that they didn’t call the hotel first because usually it’s just minor.

Q: How about contacting a manager?

Ramada Insider: This usually works fine. Freaking out and yelling from the guest usually will end up in a big argument. Put it this way: Would you want to help anyone who’s treating you badly? Not really. Let us take notice of your problem with the hotel and we will find the best way possible to help you out. We want our guests to return. We really do.

Q: Do managers ever de-escalate a complaint — in other words, if I have the email of your manager and send it to him or her directly, how often would the complaint get kicked back to the customer service folks?

Ramada Insider: Other hotels have specific departments (i.e. customer service, front desk, reservations, etc). However, at our hotel it’s just front desk and management. Basically, if a complaint comes in, the manager will try to take care of it, but if he or she is unable to tend to it at some time, then one of us will try and take care of it. We all try our best for guest satisfaction.

Q: What do you think should hotel guests know about the inner workings of complaints, and the relationship between a hotel franchise and hotel chain, that would make them more effective at filing a
successful complaint?

Ramada Insider: A guest should file a complaint and word it in a way where he or she is actually concerned about the hotel’s problem instead of just wanting us to fix that one experience. It makes the guest seem self-centered and extremely picky. Also, avoid listing out problems, like a laundry list.

Q: Do you think the system is fair? If not, how should it be changed?

Ramada Insider: I personally don’t think the system is fair because guests have taken advantage of it. The customer is not always right.

I’m not joking when I say that a guest was complaining so much about a small crack in the tile that we gave the guest 10 percent off. Corporate offices need to understand that some people here cannot be made happy, no matter what happens.

Guests can try to see a hotel from our point of view. Imagine us, normal people like yourself, working here trying to make your vacation better. That’s what a hotel is all about. We will help guests in any way we can — however, it would help if some guests put themselves in our position as well.

Complaints take so much time for the guest and the hotel itself to settle through corporate. Calling the hotel and talking to, not yelling at, a manager – writing works too – can get your situation resolved and respect will be earned on both sides. Some people just need to vent, that’s all.

  • http://www.fourthfloormarketing.com Fourth Floor Marketing

    Heh ironic, I just had an issue myself recently with a Ramada hotel and they dealt with it quite quickly. I guess it all depends on the franchise.

  • MrBadExample

    Well that was interesting! In my experience Ramada International is both arrogant and unresponsive..

    They “won” when they got my money for a vacation. That was in 1991 and to date I’ve yet to stay at a Ramada Inn and I average 160 hotel room night per year.

    The sour taste of poor customer service lingers long after the sweetness of loss price is gone

  • Bill

    A Ramada in San Francisco tried to get me to sign a blank Amex charge slip upon check in. I refused and they seemed to think it was required. When I pressed the matter, he said it was “for my convenience” upon checking out. Since it was before 6 pm, I cancelled my stay and went somewhere else. I have spent tens of thousands of dollars on hotels since, and not one cent at Ramada.

    Think twice before you try to force someone to sign a “black check”.

  • solarstayer

    I was, unfortunately, a guest of the Ramada Plaza Hotel in Anaheim for the Solar International conference in 2009. After a long day of work one of my co-workers and I had the displeasure of returning to a room that was contaminated with feces. Some sort of sewer leak or something. It was horrible. The worst part was that our stuff had been marinating in the smell all day. Suffice it to say I have a low tolerance for feces in hotels. I immediately called the front desk and complained. They came to the room, recognized the extent of the problem, and switched us to another room, but refused to extend us any further courtesy. When I complained to the manager, Chris Jerger, that this was unacceptable on principle (please keep in mind I was not paying for the room myself) he became agitated and aggressive with me, even threatened to call the police on me for having the audacity to complain in the lobby about the feces contamination in the room. Here are some of his direct quotes which I wrote down on my phone in front of him in real time: “please disappear”, “get out of here”, “there ain’t nobody else [to complain to] here”, “I’m out of here in 3 minutes, get lost”, “you’re really breaking my heart”, and my personal favorite, “go put on your feces smelling pajamas and go to sleep.” Please keep in mind I kept my cool the entire time, but I don’t think this is either acceptable treatment of a customer by any business in the hospitality sector, or appropriate conduct by a manager. In Chris’ defense, I will say that he was very young and obviously lacking in proper training as a manager, so I will chalk this up more to Ramada than him personally, even though he was intolerably rude. So just take this as a warning folks, this hotel has problems with feces contamination and the staff is undertrained. You are probably better off staying somewhere else.

  • http://aol barbie45

    ;My first inclination would be to bolt; contactBBB;DEPT OF HEALTH; ATTORNEY GENERAL ; CEO OF RAMADA; JUST keep spreading the word; this socalled manager is more than just inept; contact local newspapers ; do all the damage youcan to this Ramada; force them to forever close their doors; guess the customer is right in this case.

  • http://aol barbie45

    again solat; the incident is not just a bug in aroom; it is a very serious health issue; do all in your power to anhilate this hotel; even place it on trip advisor.thanks to your report I will never stay at a RAMADA PERIOD

  • http://? Mr. K Robert

    Ramada Hotel Lethbridge Alberta, Canada Feb. 17, 2011
    It is 2:29 I’m in your hotel room # 224
    I am emailing you because I’d like for you to come to this room and stand in the middle of it. TV, heater, radio and everything shut off and tell me what you hear. It sounds like a truck is running just aboe the ceiling. I’ve stayed here several times over the past years and sometimes you’ve upgraded me, like this one. I am only emailing you because there is no one answering the phone at the front desk, tried 3 times as there is nothing (like sleep) to do.

    Do you get a lot of noise complaints ? It seams everytime I come here the accomodations, check in and cleanliness have worsened.
    P.S. jiggle the phone and it stops working . . . ?
    Ceiling light needs changed.
    Clean the hair out of the Tub.
    Now you’ve raised the rates and shut down the free breakfast bar. I would have expected this quality had i stayed at the Holiday Inn Express !!!!
    Thanks for listening
    Mr. K. Robert

  • Steveohearn

    my brother and his wife to be where going to have, thier reseptoin at the ramada hotel in edmonton alberta. on may 21 but thier customer relations person left and we where told one price and than a totaley different one . we than had to cancel and go some whee els we lost our depsit of $1,000 and i dont think tat was fair we will never recomend the ramada hotles to anyone. IN fact am brother as to repay the depsit to the bank.thanks rof riping us off. I will be posting this on rip off.com as well thanks for no wedding reseptoin

  • Operelke

    We stayed at a Ramada  in Baltimore MD, never, ever again…The room was dirty, smelled really bad that I had to get something to spray that nasty room. The blanket had numerous burn holes, bathroom was filthy, it was just plain gross. Because of the horse race we could not get a different room! Let me tell you next time it will be Holiday Inn again, I guess you get what you pay for!   

  • Operelke

    Good for you!

  • anon

    I have a very big issue with Ramada.  Last year I booked the large function room with 2 other friends in order to celebrate our 40th birthday in July of this year.  The booking was made in April last year (2010) and paid for.  We had confirmation of booking etc.  Last Thursday we received a call from the hotel to tell us that they had accidently double booked the venue with a full day wedding. Today we were offered a different room which, in our view, will not hold the 150 guests that we have coming.  We asked who booked first and was told that we had.  We do not want to cancel our party nor do we want any disruption to the wedding they have accidently booked in our room.  We do, however, feel that the hotel could be a bit more accomodating to our needs and move the evening reception for the wedding to the room they have offered us.  Both ourselves and the wedding party have similar amount of guest attending.  All we want is the room that we have booked and paid for.

  • Guillesdecoration

    I have big problem with people working there so can I talk to the Omer or manager cuz the girl work there so rude the hotel in in Sunnyvale ca Next to the 101 freeway

  • Guillesdecoration

    Two Asians lady work at ramada in Sunnyvale ca next to 101 they so rude, I been a costumer for so long I do events every Saturday I pens so much in the hotel more than 10.000 a year and now they won’t let me do my job is do my event 8 hrs even and the lady is working there and her boyfriend won’t let know there manes and I talk to the manager and she is in theres side. Who can I call?? The other manager Angie was really nice I never have any problem with her plz can u guy call me back or email me 408 9663060. Thank

  • Paul

    Here is what I had to write to the management after my stay in Miami, Collins Ave. 
    Unfortunately, I have to contact you regarding my very disappointing stay with your hotel on Wednesday night. I booked my stay for two nights through Travelocity. Upon seeing the room, I was immediately disgusted with the appearance and disrepair of the room, especially given the name Ramada, which normally would give me some assurance of a standard. It looked like “Scarface” was shot there, and I had the feeling you cater to section 8 housing. Further, I was informed if I wanted to leave, I would not be allowed out of payment for the night because I already checked in.  I called Travelocity, they called the front desk, and after about a half an hour of hassle, I was offered a different “renovated” room.  The person at the desk said I could see the room first, but I took her word that the “renovations” would surely be fine.  They weren’t.  The renovated room was in equal disrepair with plumbing fixtures coming out of the wall, electrical wires hanging out of the wall, a table and chair that looked like it was scavenged from a bar going out of business, dirty drapes, a bed with a lumpy swale in the mattress, a homemade plywood base, overhead multicolored track lights from a strip joint and splotchy mis matched painted walls. The renovations were clearly handled by people on staff that just pulled together “less broken down items” from some source, and not by professionals. Even the details the maid had prepared were the worst I had even seen. I woke up the next morning with a stiff neck and a sore throat.This whole scenario is a direct reflection of the apathy of the management.  It is shameful that the name Ramada be associated with this property.  In the future I will never book a Ramada property with any confidence, unless I see the exact room prior to payment.  I’m not sure how this could ever be made right, but I will post my review online to warn other unsuspecting travelers. I will contact Ramada corporate office and relate this experience and recommend the name Ramada be removed from the property. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=818604177 Mohammed A A Aljallab

    I checked in Ramada hotel 5 pm in saudi a Arabia-Damam city at 25 0f march 2012, and then after 3 hours i felt that my room is vibrating with loud music :), what is going on? ,i asked the hotel receptionist and he tolled me,there is a party, and he said sorry this is going on up to 2am, i said, you are  kidding me!  he said no sir this is true,but i will call for you the night manager on duty and this night later on 9 pm the manager on duty tolled me,he will ask them(he meant the party people)to turn music down little pet! ”believe it or not”, i was patient trying to sleep but it is 1:30 am now and i could not sleep ,so i switch on my cp to the internet to find out the general manager of Ramada any where of the world at least to inform them to know this situation,why i do this? because i am very sure Ramada as a big company that there reputation is very very important,they will not allowing such a very strange thing happen (loud music /noises from 8pm to 2am) at any of there hotel around the world,actually i believe this is against the most minimum of the guest right to have a quit sleeping at a hotel with one star level !
    i am sorry if my English is not that good, but i want to take this every where in the world until i have an answer of my Q:why Ramada let that happen to one of its costumer and to know please can i have a compensate for this situation?

  • http://twitter.com/MJTVgirl MJ Cranmore

    Hmmm. a guest should be required to look at it from the hotel’s point of view? I think I must have missed that day in good management class. I do understand it’s not always easy to deal with irate people – and sometimes they are just picky or trying to get a better deal – however, that’s up to a good manager to judge. I don’t always think a Ramada property – or management – should just reach for the “money off” solution…sometimes, all a customer wants is to be heard and told, “I’m really sorry that happened. What do you think a fair response would be?” Many times, they just want to have the situation rectified. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6TYZPDNU5RC272RA4GGOZWAF4Q Cliff

    Stayed at the Ramada Plaza Inn , Niagra falls Canada. and got charged for amenities. Is that not one of the reasons for picking a place.   Never again