Princess meets canceled passengers halfway — is that enough?

Missed the boat ... again.
Maybe Ronald and Katherine Taylor weren’t meant to take a cruise. After listening to their story, you might be forgiven for thinking so.

But did Princess do enough after the Taylors couldn’t make both of their departures? That’s the question I’m hoping to answer with your help.

Their first cruise, which departed from New York, was a bust when Hurricane Irene blew into town last year. They canceled their trip for obvious reasons. “We thought it was unsafe to fly into a hurricane,” says Katherine Taylor. Princess offered the couple a $1,398 cruise credit, and their insurance policy covered the rest.

The Taylors rebooked a cruise for March. But that wasn’t meant to be, either. Princess canceled that cruise for mechanical reasons after they had already arrived in San Juan. They decided to stay in Puerto Rico and make a vacation out of it instead of returning right away.

“We do not expect Princess to reimburse our expenses — though it feels appropriate that they should — but they are refusing to repay the cruise fare because we used cruise insurance we purchased for their Aug. 27 cruise out of New York,” says Taylor.

Since Princess canceled the second cruise, shouldn’t it refund their fare?

Taylor thinks so.

When we invested that cruise credit to book the March 2012 trip, that credit became currency. When Princess cancelled the trip, less than 48 hours before scheduled sailing, they left us in the lurch.

Princess will refund the booking fee to those who paid with new cash; we feel they are morally obligated to repay us with cash also.

I asked Princess to have a look at their case. A week later, I heard back from Taylor.

They are offering a little compensation for canceling our cruise and stranding us in San Juan. They’ll pay our pre-cruise hotel and half of our round trip airfare to Puerto Rico.

Why half? Because, they argue, we didn’t turn around and come right home, which would have cost up to $2,300 for a new ticket.

That’s better than the previous offer. But is it enough?

I think Princess should be responsible for repaying a customer the full value of their cruise if they cancel a sailing. If I use a voucher to pay for that cruise, then Princess should offer me a new cruise credit, at the very least.

Repaying half the airfare seemed a little wishy-washy. I can understand not covering the Taylor’s hotel bill for a week. But half the airfare? Why just half?

In the hours leading up to the publication of this post, Princess changed its mind again and agreed to repay the full airfare.

Taylor says that’s a “step in the right direction” but is still disappointed about the credit.

To simply reimburse us with cruise credit is set the clock back to December when we committed to the March cruise.

Princess is saying that absolutely nothing happened. It’s as if we never booked, never made hotel arrangements, never got ourselves from Colorado to the island, never stood below a big white ship and pondered what we should do next.

It seems so strange to us that they don’t see that cruise credit is poor compensation for their cancellation.

I’m happy that Princess could be persuaded to do more for these passengers. After it canceled their second cruise, it covered their airfare to San Juan, part of their hotel bill, and offered them a new cruise credit.

But is this the best it can do? More importantly, is it the best it should do?

  • TonyA_says

    If that is the case, because they were already in PR, then (as I said) they are owed the roundtrip airfare in money. I did not catch the timing of their trip the first time I read the article.

    In fact, if they did not intend to stay in PR for the week, Princess should have helped them get home (change airline ticket for an earlier date).

    This makes me wonder, if one arrives early (48 hours as they said) before the cruise, does the cruise company think they do not have the responsibility to get you back. What is the cutoff of a reasonable advanced notice for cancellation?

  • TonyA_says

    Mike, I am rethinking this further. The cruise states it starts in PR. So unless the pax bought his airline tickets FROM PRINCESS, then Princess is not responsible how and when the pax gets/got to PR. The pax takes the risk that the cruise from PR can get cancelled any time.

    That said, if the OP bought airfare from Princess, then Princess should be responsible for getting them back home.

    Do we know how/where the OP bought his airline tickets? I cannot assume he got it from Princess.

  • TonyA_says

    Princess is not responsible for his airline ticket unless he bought it from Princess.

    If I bought a cruise FROM Barcelona or Rome and I buy my own ticket to BCN or FCO, if the cruise gets cancelled, I’m SOL. That’s why you need to always have a Plan B just in case.

    John Baker essentially said the same thing. If the OP bought the tickets from Princess, then a refund was in order. Otherwise, they were offering some other discount.

    It looks like the OP bought their own tickets as they were there 48 hours earlier.

  • burl1

    I think Princess should pay the Taylor’s a  full cash refund for their cruise and be done with it.  In the beginning, the Taylors paid Princess for a cruise vacation.  Even though they cancelled their originial cruise because of a hurricane and they receive a cruise voucher, Princess has not  delivered the services the Taylor’s have paid for.          

  • TonyA_says

    Some Clarifying Facts
    On Thursday 15MAR, Princess made an official announcement in their website about cancelling the cruises departing 18MAR and 25MAR.
    http://www.princess.com/news/article.jsp?newsArticleId=na1221

    Actually, the cruise propulsion problem was known as early as 12MAR prior to the first port of call (St. Maarten). The captain did make an official announcement on 13MAR about their return to San Juan, PR. MSNBC published this article   http://overheadbin.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/13/10672793-caribbean-princess-delayed-by-propulsion-issues  on 13MAR. On 14MAR, there was an update supposedly posted on Princess’ website.

    QUESTION: If the cruise cancellation was announced at least 3 days prior, why couldn’t the OP cancel their airline tickets accordingly? It looked like Princess was willing to pay for the penalty fees for those who were willing to reschedule their flights for a future cruise.

    If looks like the OP flew to San Juan on Saturday, the day prior to the aborted cruise. Did they know about the problem earlier? Did they buy their airfare as part of the cruise package? Did they buy Princess’ Trip Protection policy?
    Lots of unanswered questions.

  • Michael__K

    My comment was about the timeline and where the OPs were when they were notified.

    If we’re just holding the cruise line to its minimum contractual obligations, I suppose they could have boarded the ship and kept the passengers in San Juan harbor for 7 days with no obligation to refund anything other than shore excursions and port taxes.

    Even if you do buy your air through the cruiseline, we’ve already seen that they “assume no liability for any acts or omissions of any airline” (i.e. you are on your own unless you have insurance).

    http://www.elliott.org/the-troubleshooter/the-travel-troubleshooter-can-this-cruise-be-salvaged/

    If it was a one-way cruise (as many of Princess’ San Juan cruises are) then I wonder if there is even any guarantee in the contract that the cruiseline would arrange alternate travel to the end point. 

  • TonyA_says

    I understand the ship was dry docked for repairs. That’s why they cancelled both the 18th and 25th sailing dates. You cannot be allowed on board a ship that is being repaired. Does not make sense. 3,000 people on a dry docked ship???

  • Michael__K

    Are we talking common sense or contract obligations?  I don’t see any restriction against it in the contract ;)

  • Lindabator

    Reading it again, I understand them to be getting the night in SJU, the airfare, and a furture cruise credit (which is what they would be entitiled to with the insurance).  But she wants cash, and under the terms she is NOT entitled to it.  When the original was cancelled due to the Hurricane, she got a cruise credit, and that is what she used to purcahse this cruise with.  So Princess is just giving her her credit back, to use again.  She’s lucky they gave her a 3rd try!

  • Lindabator

    I would assume not, since he USED the ticket for his own vacation, and would have had to contact Princess for any changes, etc.

  • Lindabator

    Yes – they will tell you that is what INSURANCE is for.  However, they have been very flexible in cases such as these.  They DID offer to pay his change fees, but since they decided to stay and vacation, they covered the hotel and the air – just put the cruise CREDIT back for future use.  Which is what they should have done.

  • Lindabator

    But that’s why you never USE the cruise line’s insurance (as they did).  If they had used 3rd party insurance, they would have gotten cash back the 1st time around, and if the 2nd trip had run into this same problem, would have been refunded cash as well.

  • Lindabator

    That doesn’t work, because they may have purchased a special that saved them hundreds of dollars or even a two-for-one on a soft sailing.  To expect the Holidays to have the same pricing is ridiculous, and to expect the cruise line to have to eat the difference doesn’t make sense.  The clients paid for and UTILIZED their insurance benefits – if they don’t like the terms, they should never have booked it this way.

  • Lindabator

    No – they just don’t like the fact THEY can’t get cash back on the cruise, as some others did.  BUT – those others did not use a credit from the insurance claim to purchase this space, so the only thing Princess will do is issue a new credit.  So book another cruise, and the likelihood of something happening on that one should be nil by now!

  • Lindabator

    Unfortunately, when you buy the CRUISE LINE’S insurance, you get credits back.  First mistake!  And yes, since this cruise was paid with a credit for the insurance claim, they are NOT entitled to a cash refund.

  • Lindabator

    Actually, they probably purchased the cruise line’s insurance, which pays you in credits for reasons such as these.  Hence the 2nd cruise was paid for by credits from the insurance cliam on the first cruise – NO CASH DUE THEM.  Some folks just don’t like them rules!

  • Lindabator

    WHY???   They used the insurance on the first cruise claim to gain future cruise credits (WHICH HAVE NO CASH VALUE), which they now used to book this cruise.  The cruise line is re-instating the credits for a future cruise, paid the 1st night hotel and airfare.  Not bad, overall.

  • Lindabator

    NOT when using cruise credits, which clearly state NO CASH VALUE.  If they did not like the terms, they should never have purchased their insurance from Princess.  At least they are re-instating the cruise credit – the liklihood of 3 times the charm!

  • Lindabator

    Normally, they would have paid a change fee to get you back home – but the clients decided to stay, therefore they USED the airline ticket, and did not need to incur more costs getting home (which was what Princess was covering for the problems).  And they are NOT entitled to a cash refund, as they used the insurance to gain credits for a future cruise (NO CASH VALUE), that this was then booked with.  VERY nice of Princess to extend them a future cruise credit for the amount.  Just because we “WANT” something, does NOT mean we are entitled to it!

  • Lindabator

    The passengers CHOSE to cancel their 1st trip, and use the insurance to gain the cruise credits they then booked the 2nd cruise with (NO CASH VALUE).  Princess covered change fees and hotel for its passengers, and refunded cash for some – extended credits for those who used them (like these guys).  So getting full airfare, hotel stay for the night AND credits is what Princess did, and should have for these guys.  Just because they WANT money doesn’t mean they qualified for it.

  • mburrows

    After reading so many of these I have to wonder why anyone books these cruises. The agreements make airline agreements look generous, the cruises seem to operate like a three card monte game, and thre is no end of unhappy customers sharing their misfortune. 

  • Ripped_off_by_travel_industry

    I have a better story than this. I was also on this cruise. Let me tell you. My family had not had a vacation in five years due to some financial hardships. We decided last summer that we could finally afford to go somewhere in the winter. My father fell ill in the fall and died in the winter. He knew how much I wanted to go on a vacation. I used a little bit of money from his estate to take this trip. We booked through a travel agent, Trip Central, took out travel insurance, flew Sunwing. We flew to San Juan, got on the boat, went to St. Maarten and turned around and sat in San Juan. Now, we stayed on the boat. We ate their food, we were safe, we were together — and we made the best of it. The letter delivered to our cabins (we had two cabins) stated that we would receive a full refund. We spent $8,000 for four of us (two children, two adults). I got $2500 back. I never expected to get everything — but i thought we would get at least half. I called and put my complaint in writing on March 31. I just got a response yesterday saying, too bad.