Maybe Delta’s best fare guarantee just got a little better

The roundrip airfare between Minneapolis and Washington that Kevin McDonald found on Delta Air Lines’ website came to $386 — not bad. But when he checked Expedia.com, he found the same tickets for $62 less.

Multiply that by four for his entire family, and that’s serious money.

No problem, the thought. Delta offers a Best Fare Guarantee that promises if you find a lower price on another website for the exact same Delta itinerary after purchasing your ticket on delta.com, “then we’d like to make it right.”

He was sure Delta would do just that.

And you’re probably going to find this hard to believe — after all, that’s the kind of feature this is — but Delta didn’t make it right.

At least, at first.

Here’s the short rejection it sent him:

Our records indicate that your reservation is booked in “U” class of service for the departure and “L” class of service for the return.

At the time of our research at www.expedia.com, we were able to locate a lower fare of $326.60 per passenger. However, the class of service was “T”; for the return flight. Therefore, we respectfully decline your request.

Huh?

Well, it turns out that by “exact” same itinerary, Delta means that everything — including the fare codes — must match. (These codes are meaningless for most customers seated in economy class. After all, a ticket is a ticket, right?)

But countless passengers have been foiled by fare codes, and Delta knows it.

McDonald, a frequent Delta customer who works for the state of Minnesota, appealed the decision. But Delta held fast.

Then he asked me to intervene. I suggested he contact someone higher up the food chain to review his grievance, and he did. He sent a polite email to Toby Broberg, Delta’s top customer-service executive.

Here’s what he said,

I trust that you have the capacity to affect change within Delta in legitimate instances where loyal customers are unintentionally misguided. I strongly feel that my case represents such an instance deserving of your attention.

Specifically, I draw your attention to the Best Fare Guarantee Claim form.

Please note that nowhere is a customer asked to provide “fare class” information for the competing fare.

I believe that if this form requested this information, it would trigger or otherwise alert customers to the fact that this information is vital.

I can only imagine that many other loyal Delta customers, like me, have experienced the disappointment of learning that just because both the competing fare and the Delta offers are “economy class” seats, this does not mean they share the same “fare class.”

Delta’s “guarantee” is hardly the only one with ridiculous restrictions, by the way. American Airlines’ is riddled with exceptions, including waivers for specials, packages and “unpublished” fares. United Airlines’ doesn’t apply to paper tickets.

But the fare-code issue seemed like a red herring. I wondered how Delta would respond.

I was surprised. Not only did it apologize and issue four $150 vouchers — one for each member of his family — but it also promised to take his recommendation to heart.

Your suggestion about clarifying the wording on delta.com is a good one. Coach fares for all airlines are segmented at different pricing levels and are noted by a fare class code, such as Y, L, U, T and etc. For example, “Y” class represents a “walk up” last minute coach fare which will always be significantly higher than a “T” class which represents one of the lowest restricted fare. Thus your suggestion to provide a better explanation is excellent.

Delta said it would share his suggestions with its web team, and although the form hasn’t been updated yet, I’m hopeful that it will be.

The rest of you at home who are wondering why you should even bother with best fare “guarantees” — I hear you! Spend just a little bit of time reviewing the fine print, and you’ll see how gimmicky and pointless some of these warranties are.

Maybe, just maybe, one of them got a little less gimmicky.

  • bodega3

    What consumers don’t see on their screen can cost them!  We see it in the GDS.  Our advantage!

  • MikeInCtown

    From the Delta site:
    “If you find a lower fare on another website for the exact same Delta itinerary after purchasing a ticket on delta.com, then we’d like to make it right. This guarantee applies to any bookings that begin on delta.com, or via our Ticket CounterTM application or mobile web site.
    We will refund the difference in fare and give you a $100 travel voucher for use toward future travel with Delta.
    To qualify, the lower fare must be for the exact same Delta flights, dates, number of passengers, cabin, and booking/fare class as the original itinerary purchased that same day on delta.com. The lower fare must not be offered on delta.com and the fare difference must not be less than $10.”

    I see same number of passengers, dates, cabin etc… I even see booking and fare class. To most of the world, this would mean coach compared to coach, first class compared to first class, business to business, etc… not some stupid unknown code within the economy/coach class.

    Also, it does say that the passenger has the right to cancel within 24 hours for a FULL REFUND. Due to the fact that Delta denied the request, the OP should have been given the opportunity of a full refund.

  • MikeInCtown

    From the Delta site:
    “If you find a lower fare on another website for the exact same Delta itinerary after purchasing a ticket on delta.com, then we’d like to make it right. This guarantee applies to any bookings that begin on delta.com, or via our Ticket CounterTM application or mobile web site.
    We will refund the difference in fare and give you a $100 travel voucher for use toward future travel with Delta.
    To qualify, the lower fare must be for the exact same Delta flights, dates, number of passengers, cabin, and booking/fare class as the original itinerary purchased that same day on delta.com. The lower fare must not be offered on delta.com and the fare difference must not be less than $10.”

    I see same number of passengers, dates, cabin etc… I even see booking and fare class. To most of the world, this would mean coach compared to coach, first class compared to first class, business to business, etc… not some stupid unknown code within the economy/coach class.

    Also, it does say that the passenger has the right to cancel within 24 hours for a FULL REFUND. Due to the fact that Delta denied the request, the OP should have been given the opportunity of a full refund.

  • TonyA_says

    Very True! But, then you get people complaining like the OP. They really have NO CLUE what is going on. We see it, they don’t. The whole world sees it differently compared to us. Something is screwed up in the system. If I have to explain to my customers what is really going on, I need a change in profession to “teacher”. Maybe I should since that profession makes more money.

  • TonyA_says

    Bodega, not too long ago Delta’s website said “Powered by Orbitz”.

    Also I have seen on more than one occasion that a link from Kayak will display different fares on Delta’s OWN website. Weird.

  • TonyA_says

    Sometimes you get lucky. Remember when delta and others put fares up by $20 and then rolled it back after a few days. The $20 was there for the picking. I think plus a $100 certificate if you are really lucky.

  • http://twitter.com/johntbaker John Baker

    Fare class is on their website & its on your ticket. Just because you choose to ignore it doesn’t mean that it isn’t relevant since each fare class has different fare rules.  U will always be cheaper than Y but Y is refundable so it makes in relevant to the pricing equation.

    Black letter to their guarantee… It wasn’t the same fare class so it doesn’t apply.

  • MplsMcD

    The OP here…Mr. McDonald.  To answer a few questions, I booked through Delta.com instead of Expedia.com for a few reasons: 1) I legitimately thought that the tickets offered by both were exactly the same, 2) perhaps naively, I thought I was helping the (former) hometown airline by buying directly, and 3) most importantly, I wanted the feeling of increased confidence that comes with booking direct with carrier is, for some reason, we needed to make a change in outbound or return flights (my father is having surgery next week, and while we are optimistic, we’ve had more than our fair share of family vacations interrupted by family crises)…I thought Delta would be easier to work with — if it came to that — than expedia.com.

  • TonyA_says

    I would like to revisit sershev’s case and use it as an example to show how lousy a fare search can be using an airline’s own site. You are not guaranteed a search will be as comprehensive as possible.

    Here’s what sershev experienced in a nutshell:

    (1) he searched Delta’s website for a fare from LAX to SJU and they sold him a T-class ticket for $498 before tax. (Note for discussion purposes the tax is irrelevant since it is the same for almost all options.) The flight was from LAX-JFK-SJU since Delta does not fly directly from Los Angeles to Puerto Rico.

    (2) The next day he found the exact same T-class flights for only $478 before tax from another online vendor (not Delta’s website).

    So what happened?

    The cheaper fare was based on a different Delta fare basis (code) T10SL1 but the same booking class – T. Please note that T10SL1 is a ONE WAY THROUGH fare for LAX-SJU (or vice versa).

    Just to be clear, on the day he searched, T10SL1 base was $204 with a (Q) surcharge of $35 each way.

    According to my GDS’ historical fares, Delta indeed offered such a fare T10SL1 LAX-SJU for that base price ($204) on 17JAN12 1431 till 19JAN12 1358 (Eastern Time Zone).

    Ironically T10SL1 was $5 cheaper, only $199, before 17JAN12.

    So why did Delta’s site charge him more for the same T class seats?

    If you look at the breakdown of his Delta ticket, it was priced as a combination of 4 different segment’s one way fares: LAX-JFK + JFK-SJU + SJU-JFK + JKF-LAX. This combination is fine if it results in a lower price. It is not fine if the THROUGH fare LAX-SJU and SJU-LAX would be cheaper (as in the case of sershev’s itinerary).

    IMO Delta’s online system really screwed up. T class seats were available and therefore seat inventory was not the problem. The problem was the pricing engine.

    Having said this, consumers should really shop around for the best price because as this shows even the airline’s own website does not necessarily provide the lowest price for the same exact flight and class.

    The DOT has rules that requires airlines to offer passengers their LOWEST AVAILABLE fares. IMO, Delta’s website did not live up to this rule since the cheaper THROUGH fare at the same T booking class code was available. Shame on Delta!

  • TonyA_says

     Nah, those who write tax laws are paid more.

  • TonyA_says

     +1

    If they followed the rules, they probably didn’t have to complain here.

  • TonyA_says

    Dear Mr. McDonald,

    I really don’t like Delta that much, but I have to say they were correct in their initial assessment of your complaint. You, yourself, said that, at the time you made your purchase, Delta’s and Expedia’s price were equal. That meant that at that time only Class U (booking code) seats were available for your flights (whether you bought it from Delta or Expedia).

    What I believed happened was that when you searched again (maybe a day or two later), four seats opened up in T class. Since T class is cheaper than U class, then you saw a cheaper fare.

    Delta’s fare warranty does guarantee fare changes because of future availability of cheaper class seats. It guarantees that you can get the difference in fares if the fare for your specific class booking class goes down in the future (for the same flights and the seats for your class must still be available). If the fare for “U” class went down, then, sure, you had a valid point. But your complaint was the fare went down because T class seats became available. I’m sorry but that’s not the deal offered by Delta to ALL PEOPLE SIMILARLY SITUATED (as you are).

    For example, I often buy my tickets for Christmas and Thanksgiving early. If I had purchased them in Delta U class and sometime in the future a cheaper Delta T class seat becomes available, the warranty does not apply to me.

    Anyway count your blessings and I hope everything goes fine with your dad’s surgery.

  • mikegun

    I would agree with the thinking behind points 1 & 3. This board is filled with horror stories from people who book on an online travel agency and then have a problem only to be bombarded with “Why would anyone book on a third party website when you can use the airline direct?!?!”

    As far as being the “hometown” airline, for me, those days were gone after North Central became Republic! ;)

    Thanks for sharing the experience.

  • Joe Farrell

     why would anyone fly to JFK from LAX to go to SJU?  MIA/ATL/MCO/IAH come to mind . . .

  • Spanky_McF

    “Our records indicate that your reservation is booked in “U” class of
    service for the departure and “L” class of service for the return.”

    Translation:

    “Our records indicate that you’ve caught us with our pants down but damn if we’re going to give you money that easily.  Now watch as we make up some bullshit and bet that you go away.”

  • Miami510

    If not dishonest in legal terms, such complicated pricing never results in the customer getting the best price; rather it works to confuse the customer and make them jump through hoops to get the lowest price. 
     
    The pricing matrix is established to attract the flyer at an early time away from the competition.  As the flight day draws nearer, and reservations show empty seats, the airlines lower the price.  As the reservations fill up, the price rises and seems to soar to take advantage of the last-minute traveler by charging the “walk-up rate.”
     
    The various codes for the very same seat are used to inhibit the traveler from switching to a lower cost.  Shrewdly, they call the seat by a different name. 
     
    I recall a similar situation when buying a TV some years ago.  The vendor advertised a 30 day price guarantee; if the same set was advertised for less by anyone else, the store would refund the difference.  This happened and I took the ad to the store as proof.  The store refused because the model number differed in one letter at the end. 
     
    I later found out, small retailers were sold the set with a “B” suffix.  Large vendor’s sets carried the identical set, but it had an “A” suffix.  Both groups could advertise a price guarantee without ever having to refund money.  This airline situation parallels the TV sale.  Label the same item with a different name and keep the public confused.   

  • Cybrsk8r

    It’s quite simple really.  The airlines can make more money by making things confusing for their customers.

  • TonyA_says

     my guess to chase T class fare.

  • bodega3

    Read the rules.  It is pretty clear on their policy. 

  • bodega3

    That isn’t an uncommon routing for those of us on the west coast to get to the Caribbean.   

  • sershev

    Because if I go to ATL I arrive to SJU later due to longer connection and why would I want to fly on AA or CO or whoever flies via MCO. When I go with DL I have upgrades, priority, flexibility to change flight on the same day, free checked bags etc.

  • sershev

    Because if I go to ATL I arrive to SJU later due to longer connection and why would I want to fly on AA or CO or whoever flies via MCO. When I go with DL I have upgrades, priority, flexibility to change flight on the same day, free checked bags etc.

  • sershev

    Well, on Jan 16 DL only offred LAX-JFK-SJU fare. I even called reservations and asked them to price it a through fare. Unfortunately through fare was not loaded into computer that day. I always checked prices next day after booking since 24 hours risk free cancellation policy. Next day, Jan 17 Delta offered through fare for the same flights which was $20 less. However, according to terms and conditions if the lower fare is offered on Delta.com it does not qualify for best fare guarantee. My point is Delta’s best fare guarantee has so many restrictions that if you follow all the rules you will never qualify for $100 voucher.

  • sershev

    Well, on Jan 16 DL only offred LAX-JFK-SJU fare. I even called reservations and asked them to price it a through fare. Unfortunately through fare was not loaded into computer that day. I always checked prices next day after booking since 24 hours risk free cancellation policy. Next day, Jan 17 Delta offered through fare for the same flights which was $20 less. However, according to terms and conditions if the lower fare is offered on Delta.com it does not qualify for best fare guarantee. My point is Delta’s best fare guarantee has so many restrictions that if you follow all the rules you will never qualify for $100 voucher.

  • sershev

    You will not get $100 certificate since the lower fare is offered on delta.com as well. And in order to qualify for the certificate the competing fare must not be offered on delta.com

  • bodega3

    But this isn’t confusing.  The policy is very clear, yet I do understand that DIY’ers don’t know how air pricing work and the websites don’t provide you will all the information needed to educate you on it. 

  • TonyA_says

    Sershev, You were cheated on 16Jan because at that time Delta had the THROUGH fare loaded with ATPCO for $199. What we need is a law with more teeth. One that compensates victims like you.

  • TonyA_says

    Exactly that’s why the guarantee is BS. Because at the time you complain the same fare is ALREADY in their website. But when you bought it, it was NOT there.

  • TonyA_says

    @sershev:disqus FYI, they lied.

    LAXSJU-DL 17JAN12
     EDITS USED HISTORICAL FOR 17JAN12 TKT
    ADD TAXES * SEG/PFC CHARGES MAY APPLY
    LINE FARE   RT   FARE  TRAVEL DATES   FARE LOAD DATES/TIMES-ET
    NBR  CODE   OW    USD   EFF    DISC     ONLINE      REMOVED   
     1  T10SL1      199.00 25AUG1   -     16NOV1 1110  17JAN2 1431
     2  T10SL1      204.00 27JAN2 29FEB2* 17JAN2 1431  19JAN2 1358

    The THROUGH fare T10SL1 had been loaded since 16NOV 2011. They increased it by $5 on 17JAN12. Then pulled it out 19JAN. After that a different code was used.

  • TonyA_says

    That’s why DIYers will have a very difficult time proving they were cheated by these websites – because DIYers do not have access to the REAL DATA a GDS user has.

    Also there is no law mandating that a website MUST offer the consumer the lowest price. The GDS was mandated by law to do so. The GDS autoprice will display the lowest possible price for the itinerary. Also the GDS was required by law to display a non-discriminatory offering of fares.

    Too bad for website consumers.

  • TonyA_says

    I have to issue a CORRECTION.

    I had assumed that the proposal made by the DOT for Increased Passenger Protection (Customer Service Plans) made it to the new rules.

    From reviewing many existing plans, DOT considers the following as industry “best practices” that should perhaps be required from all covered carriers:

    Offering the lowest fare available — The airline would
    always have to tell prospective travelers what its lowest available fare
    is, whether the consumer is using the airline’s website, is at the
    ticket counter, or calls the airline’s reservation number.

    Upon my checking, this didn’t make it into the new rules. I incorrectly assumed that the proposal made it to the final rules. In other words, today, the airline is NOT required to tell you or offer you its lowest fares unless it voluntarily agrees to do so in its Customer Service Plan.

    Here’s what Delta has in its Customer Commitment Plan

    1. Offering the lowest fare available

    We will disclose on our website, at the ticket counter, or when
    you call our reservation center to inquire about a fare or make a
    reservation, that the lowest fare offered by Delta may be available
    elsewhere, if that is the case. Currently, fares offered through
    delta.com, at the ticket counter, or when you call Reservation Sales are
    the same. However, there is a direct
    ticketing charge unless you book on delta.com.

    It does not specifically say that Delta will offer you the lowest available fare they have. Therefore, one should really shop around because as of today there is NO RULES THAT REQUIRE AN AIRLINE TO OFFER YOU IT’S LOWEST FARES !!!

    Sorry for my error in assuming the DOT always gets its way all the time. Too bad for us, someone more powerful was able to shoot down that excellent proposal of the DOT during the rule making process.

  • bodega3

    Yes, no website that sells air is required to give all options, but the GDS is. 

  • TonyA_says

    I knew that about the websites, but  I thought [wrong] the airlines were suppose to offer their lowest available fares. Only after I checked again did I realize that proposal by the DOT didn’t make it to the FINAL rule. Darn! Too bad for consumers.

  • bodega3

    The carriers don’t have to list all their flights so they can direct people to the flights they wish to fill up. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=547354881 Dean Murdoc

    If I owned a company I wouldn’t do something that made me look crooked. It’s bad for business.

  • http://twitter.com/bluehairspecial Big Screen

    Thank you for the help on this! I am having similar problem. Delta said they couldn’t verify details of lower Priceline ($100+ difference) fare even though they did confirm it existed. That would basically mean they can’t match priceline at all which is very misleading. I emailed the Best Fare team as well as Susan Judson & Heidi Gould in customer care. I will let you know how they respond.

  • http://twitter.com/herecomesevan Evan Alexander

    Update
    Summary, the burden of proof is on you.
    deltas response:

    “I apologize for the disappointment you have with our decision regarding
    your claim. As requested, I have again reviewed the matter to see if we
    overlooked anything that might support a more favorable conclusion.
    While viewing an itinerary on the other website, you need to refer to
    the fare rules which indicate the class of service of the ticket that
    you are purchasing. As a general rule, most travel agency websites show
    the class of service in the fare rules. At present, our support is
    limited to navigational questions concerning delta.com. In order to
    confirm the fare rules for a flight on a travel agency website we
    recommend you to contact the travel agency and confirm the class of
    service and how to view it on their websites. Delta must be able to
    verify the lower online published fare at the time of the claim and that
    the lower fare is not available at delta.com. Other methods of
    verification (e.g., fax, screen prints) are not eligible.”

  • http://twitter.com/herecomesevan Evan Alexander

    Because delta doesn’t tell you that priceline and orbitz don’t show full fare class details and hey also dont tell you they they won’t do anything to confirm it either. Basically the current policies prevent any price matching from these sites. That’s is very deceptive

  • http://twitter.com/herecomesevan Evan Alexander

    The thing is, delta WONT research for you. The won’t even call priceline to check fare codes.