Luggage fee fail! Codeshare screw-up results in accidental overcharge

afAirlines are really getting carried away with these luggage fees.

Last week, I noted that carriers are effectively demanding a ransom in exchange for transporting our personal property. I suggested they might try being more upfront about their fares.

At least they could be consistent with their luggage rules. But that didn’t happen to Peter Zapalo’s mother when she flew from Pittsburgh to Paris on Air France … I mean, Delta Air Lines. Actually, you’ll see why I’m confused in a minute.

Zapalo explains:

My siblings and I paid for my mother to travel with me to Paris for her 60th birthday and it was important to me that she pay nothing for this trip. I am an experienced traveler and consider myself Internet-savvy. I ticketed her online directly through Air France’s Web site, and only learned after the fact (perhaps through my own inattention, although I’m not sure this information was obvious at the time of purchase) that this flight was a codeshare with Delta.

No big deal, right?

Well, my mom called Air France a couple of days before traveling to see if there was a charge for checking a second bag, explaining she’d rather take two smaller, manageable bags than one larger one (but she certainly had the option to do that if there was an extra charge). Air France told her to call Delta, which she did. She was on hold with Delta for quite some time but then was told “it shouldn’t be a problem.”

It was a problem. Delta charged Mom $50 for her second bag. “To add insult to injury,” adds Zapalo, “the check-in supervisor at Pittsburgh was rather rude and said, ‘This is Delta, not Air France’.”

So, to recap: Passenger buys ticket on Air France, which allows a second checked bag at no extra cost, but ends up on a “codeshare” flight with an American airline that does charge a second-bag fee.

If I purchase a ticket through a certain carrier’s site, shouldn’t I be entitled to the policies of the airline ticketing me (Air France) and not whichever Joe Blow they codeshare me with?

And if you don’t follow that argument, how about Delta’s phone agent telling my mom “It shouldn’t be a problem” and then it clearly was?

I think Delta is a perfectly fine airline, but I had many options that were roughly equivalent in price when I bought my mom’s ticket, and chose Air France based on my past good experiences with them. Now I feel let down by both airlines. It has been weeks and despite the email sent while she was still in France and a follow-up phone call, we have heard NOTHING from Delta for a month now. You can guess which airline is crossed off my list of considerations for my next European adventure.

I suggested a brief, polite letter to Delta, explaining the problem. But here’s what Zapalo received:

Thank you for your e-mail to Delta Air Lines.

We sincerely regret your disappointment. Excellent customer service is key and your comments and observations are helpful in ensuring we maintain our goal of providing this level of service. We will make every effort to prevent anything similar from happening again. Please accept our apology for the poor impression, and we welcome further opportunities to be of service.

For customers traveling between the U.S. and Europe for tickets purchased on or after May 23, 2009 for travel beginning July 1, 2009 customers in economy class will be charged $50 US (or the local equivalent currency) each way for the second checked bag.

Again, thank you for writing. We appreciate your selection of Delta and will always welcome the opportunity to be of service.

Huh? Delta obviously didn’t take the time to read beyond the subject line of his email before sending a vanilla form letter. Very disappointing.

I recommended an appeal to a Delta executive.

And here’s where it gets really interesting. Zapalo got two responses.

The first one was another form letter, denying any responsibility for the overcharge, but saying that since the gate agent was impolite to Mom, they would offer a $50 voucher. ” I was pretty disappointed, particularly since my mom doesn’t travel on Delta or any other carrier all that often,” says Zapalo.

And then came this one:

We are concerned you encountered problems with baggage policies while traveling with one of our codeshare partners.

The checked and carry-on luggage allowance and any fees involved are subject to the rules of the marketing carrier, or the airline on which you are ticketed. The operating carrier may apply their carry-on baggage policies due to operational or safety constraints, resulting in the need for a Delta passenger to check his or her carry-on luggage.

This should not result in an excess baggage fee.

You should have received a thorough explanation, and we regret any misunderstanding. With that being said, please provide me with the number beginning with 006 next to the charge on her account and I will be happy to refund her baggage fees.

What’s going on here? Zapaolo believes it’s “a case of the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing.” And I agree.

Beyond that, I think this underscores the need for luggage fees to be standardized and clearly disclosed as part of the purchase price.

Instead of tricking passengers into believing they’re paying a lower price and then adding surprise luggage fees, airlines should do it the other way around: They should display a price that includes one checked bag for domestic flights or two bags for international flights, and then allow customers to opt out of the bags to save money.

(Photo: Contando Estrelas/Flickr Creative Commons)

  • John

    And what happens with these baggage fees when your bag does not arrive, or arrives several days later? I recently flew on Alaska Airlines and arrived without my bag. Though it arrived a day later, I requested a refund of my baggage fee because I believe they did not provide the service as I paid for it. I was informed this was not possible, though they did offer me a voucher for $50 off a future flight. What are the rules on baggage fee refunds in the case of lost or late bags?

  • Ames

    This has been going on for some time. Last summer I flew to Swaziland with two other people and a lot of luggage because we were transporting medical supplies. I cleared all the baggage charges with South African Air and paid extra fees in advance. Our flight was a code share with United in the US from Boston to Washington. United wanted their fees too and did not care in the least that we were on SAA tickets for the continuing flight. There was no choice, I paid $250 more.

    The real kicker on this was on the return trip. We were well within our baggage limits so no charges. We gathered our bags in Washington to go through customs very easily and rechecked them for the United flight to Boston. When we retrieved the bags in Boston, mine had been opened, and someone had taken some time to go through since several zippered packing cubes and several items were missing. The TSA lock and strap were gone too and there was no TSA inspection card inside the bag. The very rude baggage man in Boston told me it was my fault the bag was pilfered, I should not have put anything of value in luggage. The truly pathetic part was that all through Africa where the people we were with really could have used an extra shirt, no one touched my bags. Come home to the good old USA and between Washington and Boston, Americans steal from me. United did not even have the courtesy to respond to my letter with a form letter and I have been too furious to waste my time pursuing it. But I will never fly United again.

  • Ani

    Ames, have you seen the video, Unite Breaks Guitars? You can add to that!

  • http://waynedayton.tripod.com Wayne Dayton

    This is another clear case that the government should completely ban code-sharing as a scam perpetrated on consumers. There are absolutely no benefits to any traveler from code-sharing, it only benefits the the airlines as they can pull out of markets. Interlining achieves the same goals, but is harder for them to fleece the consumer with. This is why the overpaid political hacks at the DOT feel that providing SkyTeam with anti-trust immunity BENEFITS the traveler…so they can have disparate policies and then blame each other for the “misunderstanding”???

  • Jasper

    @ John: What are the rules on baggage fee refunds in the case of lost or late bags?

    You can see those rules printed in the left column of this page, next to your answer. See that big white empty space? Yep, those are the rules. None and void.

    You paid you get your luggage on board. Not to get it off, and in one piece.

  • Ames

    @ Ani Great Idea! I can refocus the energy into something useful. Thanks!

    @ Wayne Dayton It is my understanding that non-US airlines cannot fly between US cities so in order to offer flights from more cities, they must align with a US carrier. The international leg of my flight left from Washington, DC. I could have gotten myself there on another airline but if it were late and I missed the connection, I would have no recourse but to lose an expensive ticket. I also could through check my luggage (although this tume at greater expense than I think reasonable). I had one ticket, so theoretically one responsible airline. I chose a four hour layover in Washington, rather than a two hour which was also available because with a trip this long and important, I was leaving as little to chance as I could.

  • David Z

    There are absolutely no benefits to any traveler from code-sharing

    I’ve seen a few codeshare flights priced lower than none-codeshare ones on certain routes.

    I’ll make a naive (and probably wrong) guess that that Delta Airlines supervisor or whoever probably thought that baggage fee should be charged regardless of who’s the marketing carrier. Kudos to Delta if they indeed refund that after all the trouble.

  • http://cestbeth.com Beth

    A travel professional (like me!) would have recognized the flight numbers and/or routings as being codeshares and would have been familiar with policies surrounding them. That being said, the websites and the airlines must be more forthcoming about codeshares and fees.

  • Scott

    The information about the marketing carrier is incorrect. Since any major carrier can sell tickets on each other, you can have a dozen different “ticketed carriers” on one flight. Baggage rules are confusing enough, but to imply that check-in agents should know rules of each and every carrier that *might* have sold a ticket on that flight is pretty ludicrous.

    The initial carrier on a leg is the carrier whose baggage fees apply for that part of the journey. Whoever you are supposed to check in with, call them. It’s that simple.

  • Colleen

    “What’s going on here? Zapaolo believes it’s “a case of the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing.” And I agree.”

    I think it is worse than that. I don’t think any of these respnses from Delta actually addresses the situation at hand. They obviously didn’t read the customer’s complaint at all. The answers were just nonsense.

  • Justin

    Ames,

    Better yet, how about a video. United steals the clothes off my back video? Could be a funny parody of them pilfering through your luggage. If you make millions just give me a cut =).

    Justin

  • William Rowell

    A twist on this theme, I’m a Million Miler/Platinum Skymiles member. Last year I had a flight booked from Bloomington, IL – Baton Rouge on Delta. When I arrived at BMI, I was immediately that due to ATL weather delays, I MIGHT miss my connection there and so Delta was transferring me AA for a connection thru Chicago, Wasn’t that sweet of them!

    Problem #1 – I travel with 3 checked bags, 2 of which are over 50 lbs. As a PM with Delta, (at that time) I could check 3 at 70lbs for no fee. AA? $180….Period…..end of discussion….. I asked both the AA and Delta ticket agents for a little compassion, after all, I booked my flight on Delta, DELTA moved me to AA. Nope, it’s a RULE and we all know, RULES IS RULES!!!

    Problem #2 – Short version, 4 hours and 20 min on the plane, sitting 75 feet from the departure gate on an ERJ (ie baby jungle jet) with no refreshments stocked (heck, it’s on BMI-ORD, why put ice onboard?). Watched my Delta 1st Class seat arrive and depart (about 20 min late) and arrival at ORD at 2am (oh, yeah, up till about midnight we kept getting the speech “All flights are delayed in & out of O’Hare right now, so your connections should be OK” !!!!!!!)

    I was so mad about Problem #2 that I forgot about problem #1 until I read this article!

  • Josh

    I can definitely agree with Chris that Delta does not read the e-mails they are sent, at least not beyond the subject or first sentence. I have several times in the past received form and non-form messages from Delta “addressing” my concern which had nothing to do with my original e-mail. The system worked however as I no longer contact Delta with suggestions or complaints.

  • Nobody

    Scott said: “The initial carrier on a leg is the carrier whose baggage fees apply for that part of the journey. Whoever you are supposed to check in with, call them. It’s that simple.”
    I thought that was a lot of the original problem, getting information on a phone call (who may say what you want to hear to get you off the line because of timed performance requirements from management) and what actually happens at the airport where you have a hard choice pay or not fly, and lose money on the fare.

    So I book through Orbitz that has me connect both ways on a different airline. Who gets how much for my checked bag each way to my final destination?

    Here lies Fast-Gun Eddie
    RIP
    Nobody was faster

  • Matt

    I recently booked tickets from DLH to CPH. First I went to delta.com and it was very hard to find flights using miles and they were going to charge me $25 I think it was for each flight on KLM for the AMS-CPH CPH-AMS portion since it was on a code share airline. WTH? So I moved miles back to NWA.com and got better flight times/connections and no extra fee to fly KLM in Europe. This Delta merger’s gonna suck bad…just wait. Oh looking for tickets in Oct DLH to SFO. Delta has me flying DLH to DTW, to MSP to SFO. Uh, no…again miles back to NWA and got DLH to MSP to SFO. Lord…

  • PZ3

    Just to update – my mom got her $50 back. On October 7! After the above transpired, I had to call back several times and repeatedly urge them to complete the refund. Delta should have never charged her in the first place.

    RE: Scott’s comment. If you see above, she DID call Delta, on Air France’s advice. It’s obviously *not* simple – they said it “shouldn’t be a problem” which I now realize (silly me) is not saying that it’s NOT a problem. AND, what Chris didn’t include in the article was that the Delta check-in agent said, rather rudely, when my mom told him she had phoned with this exact question, was that “there was no record of your call.” As if anyone working any gate anywhere fields any customer calls.

    Bottom line, I think the traveler should be bound by the contract of carriage of the airline or rules of website where the ticket is purchased. I purchased this ticket on Air France’s website. I don’t care if they put me on Air Saturn, I should be bound only to the rules of the ticketing airline. In regards to the guy who was saying how he got put onto American – tough situation, but Delta should have an agreement or absorb the baggage for their premiere customers.

    This could all be alleviated by airlines having the gumption to sell “bundled” tickets, rather than nickle and diming us to death for basic services.

    Again, thanks to Chris for his help.

    P.S. Southwest is my carrier of choice. The one recent time I needed to bring something to their attention, I received a personal phone call from a customer service manager within 48 hours, plus $100 travel voucher. Too bad they don’t fly to France.

  • jimmy

    I booked a flight with my sister to India from the US with my miles. She flew from the USA with two bags, and to India with Air France with two bags. On the way home she stopped in Rome for two weeks. Since she stopped in Rome, Air Farce (oops France) charged her for the second bag. 43 kilos equaled 973.44 US dollars. I went online and a seat on Air France was only 817 dollars. They let her fly there with two bags, and then told her she was only allowed one to leave with. Is there anyway we can get some justice. I welcome some help.
    Thanx,
    Jimmy