Is it time for airlines to take a stand on breast-feeding?

When Martin Madrid got his seat assignments on a Delta Air Lines flight from Minneapolis to Orlando, he spotted a problem: Even though the airline knew that he and his wife were flying with a 4-year-old and an infant — you have to tell the airline your birth date when you book tickets — the couple had been assigned seats a few rows apart.

Splitting up his family wouldn’t normally be a problem, said Madrid, an account manager for a health products company in Minneapolis, except that his wife, who was still nursing the baby, needed a little help. Couldn’t Delta just seat them together? “This is so irritating,” he said.

Madrid could, of course, pay extra for premium seats — but isn’t Delta required to make a special allowance for nursing moms?

No. Airlines have traditionally had a tumultuous relationship with nursing mothers. Emily Gillette, a passenger kicked off a Delta commuter flight in 2006 for refusing to cover herself with a blanket as she breast-fed her daughter, is a poster child for that conflict.

Gillette quietly settled a lawsuit against the carrier this year. But the subject of how airlines treat — or in some cases mistreat — nursing women comes up with some regularity.

Many of the passengers who contact me are so embarrassed by their run-ins with crew members that they don’t want their names published. One recently e-mailed me on behalf of his wife, who was traveling on American Airlines for business. She had left her 4-month-old son at home with her husband, but during the flight she visited the restroom to use a breast pump.

After a few minutes, a flight attendant made an announcement, “asking customers in the restroom to return to their seats, as other passengers also needed to use the restroom,” her husband said. “I was appalled at the lack of professionalism and common sense of the in-flight crew.”

I asked American Airlines about the incident, and a representative told me that the airline regrets what happened. “Our in-flight procedures advise our crew to ensure that breast-feeding mothers have the privacy they need and that other customers are not subjected to an uncomfortable situation,” a spokeswoman said. “Our in-flight personnel are trained to handle such situations with professionalism and discretion.”

American apologized and sent the passenger a $100 flight voucher.

The awkwardness with which airlines treat breast-feeding moms reflects the overall discomfort that many Americans feel toward nursing in public. Last winter, the retail chain Target became the target of “nurse-ins” by angry mothers who were upset after a Houston-area woman was reportedly asked to stop breast-feeding her child at a local store. The protesters wanted Target to know that nursing isn’t “exhibitionism.”

Yet many of the travelers I speak with regard breast-feeding as a private act that, if performed in public, should be done discreetly, especially in the confines of a commercial flight. That attitude irks some breast-feeding advocates, who argue that nursing ought to be allowed anywhere, with no restrictions.

Before I continue, a little disclosure: If you can’t tell from the byline, I’m a man. Obviously, I have no direct personal experience with breast-feeding. But my partner nursed all three of our children for as long as possible, including on a plane. She always protected her privacy with a blanket out of consideration for her fellow passengers, a decision I supported.

Given that nursing is such a hot topic, you’d think that the airline industry would have firm policies in place to deal with the conflicts that ensue. It doesn’t.

I contacted all the major airlines and asked about their nursing rules. I specifically asked whether they had any formal or informal policies, and how they train attendants to deal with a nursing mom. The answers surprised me.

Two airlines offered a brief response. Delta “supports a mother’s right to breast-feed,” according to a spokeswoman. A United Airlines spokesman told me, “I’m not able to find any such policy.”

Those statements suggest that the No. 1 and No. 2 airlines in the United States leave it up to their flight attendants to decide what is and isn’t appropriate when it comes to nursing on planes.

Ditto for US Airways. “There is no formal or informal policy regarding breast-feeding,” spokesman John McDonald told me. But crew members know what they ought to do, he was quick to add. “Obviously, the flight attendants would assist the passenger with their needs, be it to help them to the lavatory for privacy, [offer] a blanket if requested, or some ice to cool bottles of milk if they pump before travel,” he said.

Southwest Airlines has no formal rule on breast-feeding, either. But spokeswoman Linda Rutherford offered some advice to new moms. “We just ask that nursing mothers use good judgment and exercise discretion in deference to other customers who depend on us to provide a comfortable travel experience,” she said. The airline suggests that “mothers who plan on breast-feeding onboard the aircraft carry a small blanket or jacket to protect their privacy, since we currently do not stock our aircraft with blankets.”

The only major airline with a formal breast-feeding policy is American. It places no restrictions on mothers traveling with infants and allows breast-feeding during all phases of flight, according to a company representative. “In addition, American’s experienced flight attendants may assist parents by heating baby bottles using onboard kitchen equipment, as well as offer suggestions on how to keep kids entertained in flight,” spokeswoman Taylor Hall said. “Parents traveling with children are allowed to bring an extra carry-on diaper bag, as well as car seats and strollers that can either be carried on the plane or checked for free prior to security.”

At best, these policies (or lack of them) allow flight attendants the flexibility to handle any breast-feeding passenger at their discretion. But at worst, they show that the airline industry hasn’t given the issue much thought.

As for Madrid, he phoned Delta a few days before his flight and explained his family’s situation to a representative. “It took her 30 minutes, but they got us seated together,” he said.

  • http://www.facebook.com/linda.bator Linda Bator

    A glimpse is one thing, but there are a lot of women (yes, I’ve flown near them) who seem to think they should let it all hang out, and everyone else should just deal with it. If you don’t wish to be treated rudely, you shouldn’t behave rudely to others. A little discretion goes a long way.

  • LeeAnneClark

    Seems to me that if you have a problem with a woman feeding her child the way Mother Nature intended it, then YOU have a major problem!

    If you can’t stop yourself from staring at a nursing mother’s breast, YOU have a major problem.

    If you consider a woman’s breast during nursing to be a sexual image, then YOU have a major problem.

    If you get all freaked out over seeing a woman’s nipple in public, but don’t even blink at seeing a man’s (even though they look identical), then YOU have a major problem.

    Get your mind out of the gutter and leave these poor mothers alone to feed their babies in peace.

  • http://www.facebook.com/cami.bauman Cami Bauman

    I have breastfed all 3 of my children on airplanes and it has never been an issue. Delta, United and American have all provided good experiences in this regard. I do use a cover up, though babies are often not fond of eating with their heads covered as it tends to get very hot. Once my child was sufficiently latched, I could take the cover off their head and still manage to be discreet. Many times people don’t even realize the baby is nursing and just assume he/she is asleep.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=808667994 Vanessa Runnalls

    One question: would you like to eat in a toilet or with a blanket over your head?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=808667994 Vanessa Runnalls

    One question: would YOU like eating in a dirty toilet or with a blanket over your head?

  • LeeAnneClark

    Wow. It just boggles my mind how anyone could consider a mother feeding her baby “gross”. Hate women much?

  • y_p_w

    Don’t the French cover their heads with towels when eating ortolans?

  • y_p_w

    I think that there are some sensible policies out there, and all of them make it clear that a mother breastfeeding (including showing a nipple) is not the problem. There is Wisconsin’s law, that states that a woman can’t be asked to move or cover up and pretty much places the onus on the business owner to move the offended person. Or the airline policy that was clear that flight attendants deal with the offended person and leave the mother and baby alone.

    There are sensible reasons for such policies. Interrupting a feeding can mean a child that will be too agitated to restart (I’ve been there) and frankly I consider the “issue” is with the offended party and not a feeding mother.

    It may take some time, but eventually people will temper their expectations when the realize that their previous expectations haven’t changed with the times.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1103151160 Kim Daks Antolini

    I see no reason why this family needed to be seated together. And yes, I am a BFing mother, and YES I have nursed on a plane. It might have been more convenient for the family, and its nice the airline accomodated them, but by no means do I feel they should have “had” to.

  • Shanna

    Reading through some of these responses has me a little irritated. So many are saying ‘be discreet’. Well, who is to decide what is discreet? When I breastfeed my son, even without a cover, you see less breast and cleavage than you do when you turn on the Oscars or open up a magazine and see Hollywood stars in their evening gowns or beach attire. Heck go to any public beach in this country and I guarantee you you will see more breast and cleavage from the girls and women wearing bikini’s than you do when a woman is breastfeeding her child. The american culture is the only culture that sees breasts only as a sex symbol. Every other country in the world sees breasts as two things. A sex symbol and a way of nourishing a child. The difference is they know that breastfeeding a child is in no way flaunting themselves. What is so wrong with providing nourishment to a child? I would rather anyone breastfeed their child than have them screaming bloody murder thousands of feet in the air. Since when has feeding our children become a nasty act that should only be done in the privacy of our homes? Many people’s response to this is “just give them a bottle”. Well, if you have a child like that is UNABLE to take a bottle or sippy cup (even at a year old) due to medical conditions, the only choice is to attach them to breast when he thirsty. This narrow-minded attitude is what is wrong with our society and makes women feel ashamed they choose to give their children the healthiest start possible by giving them breast milk. They shouldn’t feel ashamed, they should feel proud and be given encouragement and support.

  • tayler

    The fact is that breastfeeding is simply feeding an infant. That’s all there is to it. It doesn’t show any more skin than a low cut shirt and often times, no one even knows that you’re nursing. Science proves that breast is best and in our oversexualized society, it’s very sad that nursing is still taboo. If your baby is hungry, you need to nurse, simple as that. A lot of babies don’t allow their head to be covered. Would you want to eat in the dark, sweaty confines of a blanket? I think not. I have never had any negative experiences nursing in public but since airlines evidently have issues with it, they should educate their staff on nursing and if any passengers are disturbed by an eating infant, they can deal with it like a grownup, move to another seat, or put a blanket over THER head.

  • http://twitter.com/storspion_47 Jenna Healy

    And if you’re a lactating mother with no infant to feed and precious milk is squirting out of your engorged breasts, soaking your breast pads or showing through your shirt, it might be pretty unbearable to have to wait while someone with irritable bowel syndrome or a UTI ties up the bathroom. It works both ways. And although she could probably have pumped outside the bathroom, people probably would have complained about that. Yes, she was probably in the bathroom for a while, but unfortunately, pumping is not an in and out job, it’s actually difficult, especially if you’re uncomfortable and far from your baby.

  • JL

    My 14mo nvr like the idea of covering up. 1st, it made her very curious and she would go pushing ard the cover to peep out, 2nd-poor air ventilation?-try eating with a blanket/ big cloth over ur head n u will understand. I don’t understand why other passengers will get uncomfortable, our baby don’t go slurping, breastfeeding is spill proof, no strong smells frm the milk etc.

  • http://twitter.com/storspion_47 Jenna Healy

    How would you feel if you were next to a vegetarian on a flight and they
    didn’t want you to eat meat an it made you uncomfortable?

    There is an obsession in American culture with being offended or being made uncomfortable by the actions of others despite the fact that they in no way affect you. I’ve seen people offended by people praying, privately, to themselves over a meal in a foodcourt. Or the good old “I don’t have a problem with gay people as long as I don’t have to look at it”. Believe it or not, people are not trying to offend you by being themselves and doing what is natural, and you don’t have the right to ask them not to do it because you don’t like it.

    I do disagree with women who show their breast to make a statement, IF that is WHY they’re baring all. But believe it or not, the average breastfeeding mum is not going to show more than is necessary – sometimes, babies pull away because they’re fussy or windy or distracted, and there will be some inevitable nipple display. If it makes you uncomfortable, remind yourself it’s natural, and look away.

  • technomage1

    Fallacy of false cause much?

    I’m not the only one – male or female – who holds that opinion. I don’t want to see many things in public but that does not make me hate women or anyone else.

    You don’t know me or anyone else in this forum, yet you feel free to tell all of us our opinions are wrong, count for nothing, and leap to conclusions about us which are untrue and insulting.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1424598642 Judith Lienhard

    an article on breastfeeding showing a bottle! we are so crazy!

  • RetiredNavyphotog

    Good response. Nothing like accusing you of disliking women because she doesn’t like your argument.
    She pulled the “gender card.”

  • http://twitter.com/JuicyJ1976 Juliette O’Donnell

    Or offer the FC seat with more room comfort and privacy to the nursing mother?

  • http://elliott.org Christopher Elliott

    Wow, looks like the lactivists have arrived. Welcome to the party.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1010221984 Jennifer Riedy

    Good grief. How many times have I been subjected to “side boob” by women who wear shirts with arm holes that are much too large? Yesterday I repeated saw that a rather large chested woman had such a “push up” bra on that her breasts were actualy creased on TOP…but no one complains about this type of display. Then there is the massive amount of cleavage that is often on display…again, no complaints.

    I think women breastfeed in public MUCH more often than the general public thinks they do. Its just that they USUALLY breastfeed discretely…so John Q Public does not realize what is happening. By discretely…I typically mean nursing WITHOUT a blanket covering the baby to call attention to what is happening, but rather using draping of the mom’s own clothing to preserve modesty. I know that numerous times I’ve had people not realize that I was nursing when I’ve done this…and as for myself…I rarely spotted a nursing mother before I had children, but once I had my first child, I started noticing them frequently…I just knew more of what to look for once I’d experienced it myself.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1010221984 Jennifer Riedy

    Ummmm…there is a lot more display of boobs on artwork from the 12th century displaying nursing women than is “approved” now in America.

  • LeeAnneClark

    And you feel free to tell women that the beautiful, natural and…um…NECESSARY act of feeding their infants is gross! What’s gross about it? The fact that it’s a breast? Sorry to inform you but everyone has breasts. And I’d venture a guess that you have no problem seeing a man’s breast, but a woman’s is gross?

    Thus my assumption that you must hate women. Or, at the very least, you think that a part of their body is “gross”.

    It’s your attitude about women’s bodies that is gross.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1010221984 Jennifer Riedy

    Maybe she was massively constipated…or having a bout of stomach wrenching diarehea (sp?) that required her to spend more time in the bathroom. Would it be any more appropriate to rush her out via a public announcement that would inevitably cause people around the restroom to look at who was exiting? Why not knock on the door and quietly let her know that other people were waiting to use the bathroom? “Excuse me, I’m sorry to interupt you, but other passengers need to use the bathroom.” would have sufficed.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1010221984 Jennifer Riedy

    I have to wonder if the flight attendant tried knocking on the door and speaking to the woman more “privately” would have been appropriate.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1010221984 Jennifer Riedy

    Where would you suggest that a lactating woman pump then if she doesn’t have her baby with her on a long flight (or if she has multiple connecting flights with not enough time in between to pump off the plane)? I can pretty much deduce that I would not be able to simply cover up the pump with a blanket and pump in my seat on a plane…even the bathroom would be difficult…because milk let down does depend on psychological issues, and for many women–myself included, that means feeling that her privacy is protected.

  • http://www.facebook.com/melissa.rowe.14 Melissa Rowe

    WOW. So glad I am not American. American attitudes towards breastfeeding are truely appalling! It is enough to put a person off travelling there; I’m not sure I could go from a country where I have rights and so does my child, to one which frowns upon such a natural act as breastfeeding. No way would my baby tolerate something covering her face and head whilst feeding, and she shouldn’t have too! Only in America is it possible for women to wear skimpy revealing clothing, and yet not be able to feed their child the way god intended. O.o

  • technomage1

    I think many body functions, male or female, are best handled in private or as discreetly as possible – as I’ve said from the beginning – it’s not something I want to see.

    Why should the behavior of a mother get some special pass that no one else – male or female – gets regarding such issues?

    You can ask someone to change. You can try to convince them of the superiority of your viewpoint. But logical fallacies and insulting people usually don’t make them see your viewpoint.

  • technomage1

    Hey, I’m 100% for your privacy. Take all the privacy you can to do what you need to do. Please. That’s all I ask.

    Assuming the pump doesn’t make a horrible racket (which leads to another unrelated issue of unwanted noise) I have zero problem with you pumping away right next to me covered by a blanket.

    If you don’t make it an issue by openly doing it with no consideration for others – it’s not an issue to me.

    I’ve had mothers next to me breast feed while covered up and as discreetly as possible – and I have zero problem with that. Do what you have to do while showing courtesy to others around you. That goes not just for this issue but for anything else, really.

  • LeeAnneClark

    You’re calling a mother providing food for her infant “behavior”? Are you for real? Dude, it’s not “behavior”. It’s a life-giving necessity! How do you expect an infant to go for hours without FOOD? Do you even HAVE any kids? Do you have even the most basic concept of human anatomy?

    Small infants cannot go for hours without sustenance. Breastfeeding mothers do not have any other option to feed their infants. Breastfeeding mothers don’t have the option of bottle-feeding. Feeding a child (or pumping breastmilk) in a bathroom is unsanitary and unhealthy.

    Why you insist on considering “feeding a child” to be some kind of “behavior” that requires a “special pass” is beyond understanding. You mentioned logic – where is the logic in considering providing basic sustenance needed for infants to stay healthy, hydrated and ALIVE to be “special behavior”?

    Your medieval concepts about women and their breasts is what’s insulting.

  • technomage1

    Please point out to me in my comments where I said breast feeding should not be allowed in public. Please point out to me where I banned mothers to the lavatory. Please point out where I stated children should not go hungry.

    In fact, all I ever asked for was an attempt at discreet behavior while in public. I stated several times I have no problem with mothers next to me who attempted to cover up. I also stated mothers should not be in the lavatory. And, since I didn’t state it before – no, I certainly do not wish children to be hungry.

    You’re absolutely correct in one thing – this is not a sexual issue. Male, female, whatever, I do not wish to see your private parts exposed in public without an reasonable attempt at discretion.

    We all have body functions – burping, urinating, passing gas, etc that we do either privately or as discreetly as possible if we have to do them in public. Breast feeding is no different to me. You may think differently and that’s your right.

  • Raven_Altosk

    Hell no.If I’m offered an upgrade, I don’t give it away.
    PERIOD.

  • y_p_w

    Actually you would have rights in most public places. However, there seem to be many who disagree with the laws because of their “discomfort”. Attitudes are changing, and those who are shocked are the minority, although sometimes all it takes is one person to make things difficult.

    The last thing anyone really wants is a feeding child to be disturbed. I know what it’s like, where the child refuses to latch on again and won’t stop crying.

  • LeeAnneClark

    Explain to me, please, how you can consider a woman’s nipple to be a “private part”, yet you wouldn’t blink over seeing man’s?

    Yes, clearly we think differently. I try not to inflict any bizarre hang-up’s I might have over women’s bodies onto anyone else.

  • Nica

    This is actually interesting… Women can walk in NY with bare breasts out and no one complains, but attach a baby to the nipple and there is a major catastrophe?

    Does having the baby attached make her breasts “no longer sexy” and that is the issue? If so, get over it.

    If it is a matter of personal comfort, please understand that there may be things that you do in public that people may find offensive. Just put yourself in the mother’s shoes for one second – she may be a little uncomfortable herself, but the baby’s needs are more important than her discomfort. I am sure that if she could go somewhere private where she is not being stressed about what people are thinking of her, she would gladly do so. This is a time for a mom to 1) feed and comfort the child, and 2) bond.

    Another point – would you rather:
    1) Deal with the breastfeeding and have a nice, quiet flight or;
    2) Having a screaming infant (for those that have a problem with that) for your entire flight?

    It is really sad that this has to be even discussed as whether or not this should take place.

  • technomage1

    Why is any part, male or female, considered private? Well, that depends
    on a variety of societal, cultural, and historical factors. A woman’s nipple is traditionally agreed upon in our society as a private part to be normally concealed with clothing. A man’s is not.

    Even if you disagree with this and would like to see it changed – and its obvious you do – you cannot be somehow be unaware of this fact.

    Maybe in 100 years that will be different. Who knows? But at present, I’d be willing to bet that I’m in the majority in our society on this issue.

  • LeeAnneClark

    The law makes it clear that in the context of breastfeeding, a woman’s nipple is NOT considered a private part. Many states have explicit laws that breastfeeding in public is NOT considered “indecent exposure”.

    But if you want to continue with your medieval, disturbed notions about women’s bodies, you go right ahead. Me? I try to keep my own sexual hang-ups to myself.

    By the way, eating is also a “bodily function” which is socially acceptable in public. Which, in fact, is exactly what babies are doing when breastfeeding (shocker, right?).

  • technomage1

    It may the law but it is still widely frowned upon, at least in my area.

    I have made my position clear in a polite manner. In return I have been repeadtly insulted and my position seemingly willfully misrepresented – even if it was contrary to what I had written.

    And I used to wonder where the term breastapo came from. You are trying to change a societal norm. That is certainly your right. But, again, insulting those you are trying to change and throwing up straw man arguments is not an effective – nor polite – argument.

    Since we’re only reapating ourselves, It is clear any further discourse on this topic will not benefit either of us. You have a right to believe as you do, but so does everyone else. Kindly keep that in mind when you move onto the next person on this topic.

  • LeeAnneClark

    “Widely”? LOL! Take a look in the comments in here! Clearly it is not “widely” frowned upon…only by the Beavis & Butthead troglodytes who can’t get sex out of their heads any time they see a breast.

    It’s hard to be polite to someone who views my own gender in such a wrongheaded, demeaning manner.

    It’s sad that it even had to be made a law. But it is people with bizarre hang-ups about women’s breasts that necessitated legislation to be enacted, to protect mothers’ rights to provide basic life-giving sustenance to their babies without being forced to hide, as if they were doing something shameful.

    The people who should be ashamed are those who look at a breastfeeding mother and think SEX. Or…EW! GROSS! Shameful indeed.

  • henare

    We’re not all French.

  • slfisher

    Geez. First people complain about crying babies on planes, and then complain about the one thing that soothes them.

  • Babycakes

    Apparently, you’ve never had to deal with an infant. Depending on the age of the baby, the child has to feed every few hours. Newborns must feed every two to three hours and parents are instructed to wake up the child if needed to ensure that happens. You can’t train a new baby. If they don’t like the conditions, they just don’t eat. Instead they scream and scream until they pass out or until they get what they want. They are babies, not mini adults. If the baby does not want to be covered, I’d rather nurse uncovered than subject the rest of you to screaming and risking my kid’s weight gain. This is not ‘beliefs’ being forced on anyone. It is a fact that babies were born to nurse (as far as I can tell they call the tops of baby bottles nipples for a reason), it is a fact that nursing is best for both mother and baby, it is a fact that more states are writing laws that would encourage more women to breastfeed and it is a fact that no one is forcing you to agree with it when you can simply look away. How about this – your beliefs are making women and their babies uncomfortable. Seeing as the adult can control himself, I think the baby should win the battle.

  • Mel65

    I am a proponent of breastfeeding when possible, in general; I am NOT a proponent of being inflexibly rigid in any belief to the point that one appears to be LOOKING for a reason to be offended. I am a mother of 3, all of whom were breastfed. But, I also am not immortal and know too many friends whose children refused bottles, etc.. when exclusively breastfed, and these women were tethered to their children. From the beginning, my children were breastfed thru the week, and my husband fed them either pumped milk or formula on the weekends (when it was MY turn to sleep). The formula tended to fill them more, they slept longer and became accustomed to a bottle/formula, allowing us to actually go out to dinner once in a while, WIN WIN. When I flew from Germany to Ohio by myself w/ my child, I prepped several bottles w/ the requisite amount of powdered formula in them, knowing I could get water. A simple shake of the bottle, and mommy, baby, FAs and other passengers are all happy. I could have whipped it out, but I didn’t know who I’d be sitting next to (a large companion could make it awkward and uncomfortable for ALL of us!) and what other logistics might be involved in trying to breastfeed, although I did wear nursing appropriate clothing, just in case, and was able to fit in a feeding while most of my companions slept to ease both my and baby’s discomfort. All it takes is planning, flexibility and I like to think, a little courtesy for my fellow travelers. Militants about ANY cause will find offense in a situation, and if there isn’t any, will create it…and really, how does that benefit anyone? Please use common sense and put the baby first, before the cause.

  • http://www.facebook.com/BarryMichaelGraham Barry Graham

    Thanks for keep us abreast of the situation :-)

    Yes nursing mothers do have rights that should be enforced by the airlines. Of course mothers should also ensure that they are appropriately dressed when doing so (although having see the standard of dress on a recent American flight I don’t think this comment is relevant only to mothers).

  • madchickenlittle

    Well, I don’t know. I nursed 3 babies, and I always bought seats for them on airplanes for safety reasons. So, it’s really hard to nurse on takeoff/descent when they are securely strapped into their carseats as needed during those times.

    Nothing wrong with breastmilk in a bottle during those situations. Nothing wrong with formula in a bottle either.

    I fall into the whole pick what you want to do camp, but I don’t think it’s the airlines or anyone else’s responsibility to make it easier for you. This guy should have paid more if he felt he “had” to sit with his spouse. Those are the current rules. I happen to think that paying for seat assignments is an asinine proposition but it’s the current situation. Function within it, or change it, but don’t expect to be a special snowflake that gets special exemption.

  • madchickenlittle

    I think discretion has become an archaic fashion. Now your boobs have to be hanging out, your belly button is supposed to be pierced and of course you have to display your belly jewelry, the flashier the better! We’re all looking for a reality show I guess.

  • madchickenlittle

    I wish I could like this times a thousand. I too breastfed 3 children and managed to do it reasonably. I’m not offended at breastfeeding but I don’t understand why consideration only runs one direction. Is it really such a big deal to cover up? I kept a cloth diaper draped for those inevitable sudden unlatchings. I produced so much milk that sometimes the baby (any of them, it happened all three times) would release the nipple at let down because of the massive spray. Without a cover I could and did spray breastmilk for FEET across the room…imagine that on an airplane! Zoiks.

    I don’t think you have to do anything, but I think you should want to make everyone as comfortable as possible in a situation, you are not the only factor in any decision, ever.

  • madchickenlittle

    This is ridiculous and asinine. You are deliberately inflammatory.

    Pumping breastmilk isn’t unsanitary. It’s often necessary. Creating a strawman argument that only breastmilk FROM the breast at the time of feeding is the ONLY healthy way to feed an infant creates all sorts of problems.

    Working moms cannot stop and actively feed the baby every 2 hours – they have to work. So unless you are stay-at-home supermom you are a failure and you are risking your babys life and health?

    I repeat, ridiculous and asinine.

  • Nontendo

    You’re lucky, then.

    Last year we went to lunch at a restaurant that seats everyone together at large tables. After we sat down a couple with a small child and a baby sat next to us, the woman facing my direction. About two minutes later I glanced over and she had ripped her shirt completely open, exposing both enormous breasts, and had the baby stuck onto one, leaving the other nipple dangling in the wind. Believe me, there was nothing sexy about it (anyway, I’ve got big boobs myself and am not interested in seeing other women’s). There was absolutely no reason in the world to have both of them hanging out for the entire world (and room) to see. Especially over lunch.

    And a few years ago I was in a meeting at the corporation I then worked for, which was attended by a female contractor who brought her small child with her. I thought that was pretty weird, but the kid was about three and was quiet and I forgot she was there. Until I started to hear a very strange, loud, smacking and slurping sound. I couldn’t imagine what it was and looked around trying to locate the source, when my eyes landed on the contractor, who was sitting there breastfeeding this three-year-old. For the last half hour of the meeting.

    There’s really no excuse for this. You shouldn’t bring a kid to a corporation to begin with, and if the kid is talking and walking and obviously eats solid food, I really don’t see why you need to haul out the boob in front of everyone. I’m sure she could have lasted another half hour before breastfeeding. How about a piece of cheese or something?

    Women like these do other breastfeeding women no favors.

  • http://www.facebook.com/judyserie.nagy Judy Serie Nagy

    Breast feeding is a necessary activity; If it offends people, too bad. Usually things like this are handled well, sometimes not. While there are FAs with little common sense, so are there passengers who behave obnoxiously. Example: On our way home on UA from Los Cabos last week, some idiot changed the baby on her tray table in first class. The smell was awful. I’d take the split-second sight of a bare breast any day.

  • Lisa

    Seriously! Why is breastfeeding constantly an issue? What about the breasts that are hanging out all over beaches, and lingerie store ads and certain waitresses at certain restaurants and women on TV and movies and etc. etc. etc. Yet, a mother using her breasts for their actual purpose–feeding her baby–is so scandalous.