Four years after Vegas vacation, travel club tries to collect another $433

The long weekend he spent at the Lady Luck Hotel and Casino was a distant memory to David Burford, who checked into the Las Vegas resort with his family back in 2004. But not to a Boca Raton, Fla., company called First Class Travel Wise, which contacted him out of the blue recently and ordered him to pay an extra $433 for his vacation.

Talk about late billing.

How could a company that Burford had never heard of make that kind of demand? A representative explained that Burford hadn’t fulfilled the terms of a travel package he had allegedly purchased four years ago, at about the same time he booked the Lady Luck room.

When Burford balked, he was connected to someone who identified himself as Christopher Greene, who claimed that Burford had stayed at the Imperial Palace in Las Vegas and had taken a property tour, which obligated him to book future travel through First Class Travel Wise. Greene is listed on First Class Travel Wise’s Web site as its president.

Burford had never stayed at the Imperial Palace.

I informed Greene that I thought his call was part of some fraud attempt at getting me to pay him $433 for a bogus deal. He then related that he could email or fax to me the contract that I had entered into. I asked him to mail it to me, but he declined. He then related that he would contact a collections agency regarding the $433 that I supposedly owed.

Burford checked his records and found that he had paid for show tickets at the Imperial Palace. He also investigated his hotel booking, which was made through a company called Leisure Time Las Vegas. He remembers that the booking enrolled him in “some travel program that I did not want to join,” so he canceled it.

However, efforts to reach the Imperial Palace and Leisure Time Las Vegas were unsuccessful. Leisure Time’s phones have been disconnected, and the Imperial Palace is undergoing a renovation, according to Burford.

I contacted First Class Travel Wise on Burford’s behalf. It hasn’t responded.

Burford is not leaving anything to chance. He has filed complaints with state and local law enforcement agencies, as well as the Southeast Florida Better Business Bureau. The BBB has given First Class Travel Wise a grade of “F” for not responding to customer complaints.

The company’s efforts to collect money from other travelers is also detailed in 800Notes, which catalogs calls from “unknown” companies.

Burford, for his part, is standing his ground.

It was shocking for me to receive the above phone call from Greene claiming I had to pay for something that occurred over four years ago. I totally dispute their claim that I lodged at the Imperial Palace in Las Vegas and took some tour of another facility, which obligated me to a travel package.

Greene appears to be equally insistent. Last Thursday, he called Burford because of his Better Business Bureau grievance. Then he allegedly made yet another ultimatum.

Greene stated that he not only operated First Class Travel Wise, but also owned a collections agency.

Greene said, “You’re still denying staying at the Imperial Palace and taking the Time Share Tour.” Greene stated that he was going to forward this matter to an attorney.

Without seeing the actual contract, it is difficult to determine whether First Class Travel Wise’s claims are legitimate. But you don’t have to be an ombudsman to conclude that the company’s methods — and timing — raise some serious questions.

Maybe those are best answered by a judge.

Update (12/11): I received a blog comment that purports to be from First Class Travel Wise. I can’t vouch for its authenticity (neither the IP address nor the given email address can be connected to the company). In it, someone claiming to represent the company insists First Class Travel Wise is pursuing valid claims against Burford, and that the comments here amount to an anonymous smear campaign against it.

THERE ARE “NO” COMPLAINTS ABOUT US “NOT” FULFILLING THE HOTELS WE ARE SUPPOSED TO. NO COMPLAINTS ABOUT US “NOT” REFUNDING ANY TIMESHARE TOUR PAYOUTS THAT ARE DUE TO ANY CUSTOMER/TOURER. AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE HAVE MADE IT A CORPORATE POLICY TO WORK OUT A REFUND (AT LEAST WITHIN THE INITIAL RESOLUTION PROCESS) WITH ANY ONE WHO HAS A PACKAGE THROUGH US.

ALL OF THESE COMPLAINTS, A COUPLE OR FEW (OUT OF TENS OF THOUSANDS), ARE DOING AND SAYING WHATEVER THEY CAN “HIDE” AND GET AWAY WITH. WHY WOULD THEY NOT TAKE US ON IF THEY HAVE SUCH CASES? WHY NOT IDENTIFY THEMSELVES? AND WITH THIS, PROVIDE EVIDENCE OF THEIR TERMS & CONDITIONS, AND “SUBSTANTIATE THEIR CLAIMS”!!! THEY, LIKE THE UNWARRANTED “DAVID BUFFORD” CASE, SPEAK IN THE THIRD PERSON AND/OR ARE UNWILLING TO ADMIT TO YOU WHO THEY REALLY ARE. AND WHAT “THEY REALLY HAVE” TO SUBSTANTIATE THEIR CLAIMS.

REALIZING PEOPLE WANT TO GET OUT OF PAYING SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS, FOR THEIR “FAILURE TO TOUR” BREECH OF THE TERMS & CONDITIONS IN EVERY CASE– ESPECIALLY DURING THESE TIMES, AND ESPECIALLY FOR TOURING SOME TIMESHARE PROPERTY—EVEN SUCH MODERATE SIZE CORPORATIONS, AS WE ARE, HAVE DONE WELL TO WORK OUT A REFUND OPTION (IN OUR INITIAL RESOLUTION PROCESS), WHICH WE ARE “NOT” OBLIGATED TO DO. (ACCORDING TO THE TERMS & CONDITIONS OF “NONE” OF OUR PACKAGES)

*THE REASON THAT WE ARE STILL IN BUSINESS IS THAT ALL OF OUR PROMOTIONS “ARE” REGISTERED, LICENSED, BONDED. AND, FURTHERMORE, WE FULFILL OUR PACKAGES! NO COMPLAINTS OR ISSUES WITH ANY REAL, LEGAL ISSUES! IF YOU HAVE A BALANCE AND/OR COLLECTION SITUATION WITH OUR COMPANY—AND ARE IN DENIAL, ARE UNWILLING TO RESOLVE, OR ARE TRYING TO DEFRAUD OUR COMPANY– THAT IS JUST A BIT OF A DIFFERENT STORY!

Having read all of the new comments associated with this post, my conclusion stands. I think the validity of these claims need to be considered by a judge.

  • JMartin

    Don’t pay them, hang up on them when they do call and FILE YOUR COMPLAINT with the BBB and the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer services. The compaints on this company are piling up and Frank is aware of this company.

  • LuAnn

    Believe it or not, FCTW, now Leisure Time called me for another round on Sept. 9. We stayed at Hawthorne Suites in Las Vegas in Nov. 2004. In October, 2007 I got the first “courtesy” call about the $433.88 charge that would be charged because we hadn’t completed our second tour. I was suckered in and approved the charge. However, we were scheduled to go to Las Vegas in November and I was told if we went on the obligatory tour, we would get a refund of $400.00. Naturally, we have not received the refund and have been threatened with everything imaginable if we contact them in any way again. Then, this week, we got another call and were told by the “paralegal who was there only to help consumers” that according to the original terms and conditions, we would be charged $496.00 the next day for failing to go on the third tour! If we attended that tour, we would be able to negotiate the refunds for both the second and third tours. The loop hole was I needed to update my credit card info. as the card had expired and the security code had changed. FAT CHANCE. I’ve now left a message for a return call from the Office of the Attorney General in Florida, have had my credit card numbers changed and will be disputing the $433.88 charge that happened in Nov. of 2007. Everyone commenting has had similar experiences but maybe there’s hope that we can get this guy! He did do a sudden reversal on the phone the other night and said that after looking through ALL of the paperwork (fraud investigation, etc.) associated with my account, he discovered he was mistaken and we did not owe a balance at all. Maybe he was getting a little bit nervous – we can only hope.

  • Jo-Anne Barrett

    We live in Ireland and received a phone call from Florida Travel and Tour about a fantastic deal. Package details have arrived in the mail and it appears to be same guy, we are to call First Class Travel Wise to make reservations. My mum gave her credit card details to hold the package for $489. She was told that she can cancel within 30 days and she will get a full refund. We are mailing the details back to them today but have also contacted credit card company to investigate.

  • KM

    I also was a victim of fraud and extortion from First Class Travel Wise (FCTW) on Saturday, Sept. 19 when I was coerced into agreeing to pay them a total of $992 to extend two travel packages I had purchased from them a year ago because I had not taken any trips. After being threatened to be reported to the three credit bureaus for failure of payment, I was under duress and quite obviously in tears in fear of them ruining our excellent credit rating when I gave them a Chase Visa credit card number, and recorded and also signed and faxed them an agreement to pay.

    However, today I read all the documentation I received from them a year ago and it indicated that my package was PAID and stated, “Your package will be extended 18 months at a time, as long as you need. And there is no charge to extended (sic) current package.” There was nothing anywhere about an obligation to take any of the trips. So I emailed them requesting proof of their claim. I also tried calling them several times and only got recordings from all four departments I tried, and the Legal Department’s mailbox was full.

    So I looked online and found more than 100 complaints on multiple sites about this company scamming, intimidating and threatening people, including stories of their not honoring the very same refund offer I had just agreed to. So I called Chase and removed authorization of the credit card payments.

    I just received a threatening call from a FCTW representative. I told him that I read all the info about their scam online and cancelled my credit card payment. He said he had a recorded authorization and threatened to file a fraud report on me. I said “Good luck, I’d rather pay a lawyer than you.” and hung up.

    I emailed Equifax with an explanation of what happened, hoping that they will believe a long-time customer with excellent credit over a shady company with an “F” BBB rating and scores of complaints online and with Florida’s Division of Consumer Services, including mine. I also learned that their license expired in February 2009 so they were actually doing business illegally when they called me on Saturday. Hopefully that will be the end of it.

  • LDW

    In Sept of 2008, we purchased a vacation package deal and prepaid for the package. The terms of the agreement are that we must take the trip or extend the package within 18 months. We received a call tonight from FCTC, a representative who identified themselves as a legal office calling on fraudulent accounts and that we must pay another 600+ dollars since we did not take our trip or extend our package within 12 months. My fiance dealt with them for the first 30 minutes or so and tried to explain to them that we only purchased it a year ago, and our agreement states 18 months that we have to take it. They kept insisting that he needed to pay more money or they would file a lawsuit against us, and they called my fiance a liar because he told them that our package was not expired yet. I took the phone from him as he was very upset at this point (his God Daughter was killed in a car accident this morning) and he just couldn’t deal with their aggressive behavior towards him. I apologized for getting into the conversation so late and asked them what was going on. They basically told me that they needed authorization to charge our credit card for more money. I asked them why since our package was not up, and asked them to point me to the place in the contract where it stated that we only had 12 months. He tried a few times to direct me to the spot, and then made the comment that they have several different versions, but insited that we were fraudulent. I then read our agreement to him so he could understand what exactly it is that we bought. Nowhere in that document that I read to him did it support what they were saying to us, but still insisted that we were fraudulent. The representative then put another guy on the phone, as I heard him say “Dude, seriously you gotta do something or I’m gonna do something to somebody”. I understood this to mean that he was just as frustrated as we were, but I also felt a little threatened. The next guy that got on the phone proceeded to call me a liar and tell me that we were trying to pull something over on their company, and that they are going to take us to court. I offered to fax them the contract that we purchased, but he wasn’t interested in that, he just kep telling me that I was lying. I asked to speak to his boss and he responded that he is as high up as I could go in that company and that he is the director of their legal department. I commented that I was surprised that a director of a legal department calls customers liars and isn’t interested in seeing the documentation. He threatened to hang up on me, so I hung up on him. We didn’t ask for them to call us in the first place, or to argue with us and insult us. About 5 minutes later they called back and wanted us to fax the contract so they could use it against us when they take us to court. He clearly did not call back to attempt to resolve the issue, he just called back to threaten us again. I told him that I was done dealing with him and that I will follow up with consumer affairs.

    Luckily, we never authorized any additional charges, as we were quite confident in the agreement details and that we were not in default of our agreement.

    I also called the credit card company and informed them that we are not authorizing any charges from them in case they attempt to charge us anyway.

  • Marlene Smyth

    I received several calls from a Mike Thomas and Josh Mills telling me we owed $496.00 for a 90 minute presentation we did not attend in 2004 at the Venetian Hotel in Las Vegas. Many threats and said not to mess with him as he would get me. Claimed he was associated with the Venetian Hotel and was going to cancel our credit rating, arrange a court case etc. and if we didn’t pay the $496.00 now it would be $4000.00. He also claimed to be a lawyer. We know this is a scam but very annoying as he says he can call us twice a day for 7 years. I have contacted the credit bureau and the F B I also the R.C.M.P. in Ottawa. The scary part is he has our credit card number which of course has been canceled. Of interest to all of you I got his name, address and email. Josh MIlls Leisure Time World Wide, 2904 North Patterson St., Suite G, Valbosba, Georgia, 31602. Email Leisure time World ymill.com

  • Smyth

    The address correction is Valdosta Georgia, sorry Wrong spelling

  • Smyth

    The address correction is Valdosta , sorry Wrong spelling

  • Annette Tracy

    I too was contacted last evening around 8:45 pm by Florida Class-Leisure Time Travel and Summer Bay Resorts regarding a hotel stay with Tuscany Suites in Las Vegas in July of 2004. The same story, I hadn’t taken my timeshare tour and I was in default of my contract. In the first place I never would have agreed to take a timeshare tour anywhere! So I was not aware of this at the time I booked my reservations with some company on the internet, which at this time I do not know the name of! I was told I have to pay $496 last night or it would be turned over today for collections in the amount of $1500. At this moment I’m doing lots of research into this company and will be filing many complaints against them.

  • Bill

    I don’t get it. Why do people ever deal with these companies? Three timeshare tours? Is it really worth it?

  • scammed

    I to was contacted by them and the thing about the timeshare we never even did, nor ever heard about it..but they booked my name at Terrible.s and I am waiting for them to fax me a copy of my signature-which isn”t mine either.Terrible’s (talked to Richard Dudek) said that just today he had received many phone calls about the same scam..My advice-be real careful with your receipts,bills and don’t sign up for contests on the computer..and check your statements very careful..

  • steve

    We got a call 6 months ago and one last night. We took a trip to Vegas at Imperial Palace April 2003. Said we owe $400.00 because we didn’t fulfill are agreement. both times asked to email proof. !st time said he would never heard. Last night my husbnad asked again said he would husband hung up he called back said why hang up said email said he could’t. Husband got upset and said fine send to collections. We don’t remember signing up for time share. Right after we signed up tried to cancel they would’t let us. Told him I called Imperial Palace and could get rooms 42.00 a night where they charged us $155.00. They already made money on us. The fellow calling was a number from Arkansas. Any help in what to do if they keep calling?

  • steve

    I entered wrong email should be sgjg68@cox.net

  • Jose

    Don’t pay anything to this company. They are frauds and they are no longer in business as of 9-25-2009 .
    http://sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.exe?action=DETFIL&inq_doc_number=P04000170792&inq_came_from=NAMFWD&cor_web_names_seq_number=0000&names_name_ind=N&names_cor_number=&names_name_seq=&names_name_ind=&names_comp_name=FIRSTCLASSCRUISE&names_filing_type=

    Dr. Christopher Greene is the head of this scam and the artist. I just wish a lawyer in Florida would start a class action suit against him and Monica his wife.

    Contact Division of Consumer Services 850-488-2221 or file a complaint at http://www.800helpfla.com/travel_text.html

  • Carlina Keeme

    I can’t beleive I fell for this scam! That’s what I get for being so trusting of other people. I’m a third grade teacher and I always tell my students that honesty is the best policy. Where did these people get their education? Oh, I know, “The School of Self-centeredness and Corruption.”
    Please keep me in touch.
    ck

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  • Harassed FCTW Customer

    Check out http://www.myfloridalegal.com re: File No. L10-3-1177. The Office of the Attorney General Economic Crimes Division of the State of Florida is actively investigating FIRST CLASS TRAVEL WISE / FIRST CLASS CRUISE VACATION pursuant to Florida’s Deceptive and Unfair Trade Practices Act.