Farelogix CEO: If government interferes with fare transparency, “all sides will suffer”

Today is Mad as Hell About Hidden Fees Day. Full disclosure: I co-founded one of the organizations that created this event, so I have a horse in this race.

I’m also something of a contrarian. And one thing I’ve noticed is that, apart from a few soundbites, the airline position on fees hasn’t been fully articulated.

So I asked an airline to do just that, and it referred me to Jim Davidson. He’s the president and chief executive of Farelogix, a travel distribution systems company based in Miami. Here’s our interview. (Warning: Parts of this discussion may be a little techie for a general audience.)

Do customers have the right to an “all in” price for an airline ticket? And if so, when?

Absolutely, customers deserve complete visibility and transparency in the airfare shopping and buying experience. And contrary to much of what you hear these days, many airlines support this through newer XML connectivity to their reservations systems.

What’s stopping airlines from offering a full price right up front, then?

In most cases, the root cause of the so-called “hidden fees” is that technology – both on airline websites and even more so in agency distribution systems (i.e. GDS) – has not caught up to leverage the latest connectivity to airline systems that provides full access to this information.

Airlines seem reluctant to embrace price transparency. Is that a wrong impression?

I don’t believe that the airlines want to keep things the way things are today. This is demonstrated by the fact that most airlines continue to make significant investments in their airline websites for the purpose of changing the traditional workflow of purchasing travel. There is a very clear movement to evolve from commodity shopping, to providing the consumer with a more personalized travel product and corresponding experience.

What do you mean by that?

We are seeing a movement whereby the airline product choices or optional services are offered and priced based on who the customer is and the corresponding relationship that the customer has with the airline.

Variables such as frequent flier status, past travel experience, current trip status, as well as real-time inventory can increasingly drive the offer that is presented to a particular customer. This concept of matching a specific set of airline travel options with a specific traveler is often referred to as traveler authentication pricing or the Who’s Asking Pricing Model.

It is becoming increasingly common on airline.com websites every day. As evidence, compare the experience you have when you log into an airline site versus shopping anonymously.

Why are airlines doing “Who’s Asking”?

The motivation for this new, customer-centric pricing is very simple. The airlines need to get closer to and create greater loyalty with their existing customers. The airlines need to compete more aggressively for new customers. Given the history of marginal at best airline financial performance, the airlines also need to create new revenue opportunities.

Historically, airlines have only been able to compete on price and schedule. Within those two parameters, given that “schedule” is often limited by airport capacity, price was historically the only true competitive card to play, i.e. the proverbial Airline Price War.

But the problem there is that corporate travelers — the airlines’ bread and butter customers — realize limited or no benefit from airline price wars due to corporate policy limitations, inability to take advantage of airline offered promotions due to booking restrictions or preferred airline contracts.

And for the leisure customers, while price-driven shopping is clearly a strong motivator, the old model led to 100 percent commoditization of the airline seat and little to no brand loyalty.

How is “Who’s Asking” better?

The model opens up a new opportunity for airline and travelers alike. Consumers have more choice in selecting only the products and services they want or need, while the airline dramatically increases the ways in which it can reward and retain their best customers. The latter is achieved through unique, customer-centric offers or customer recovery benefits, i.e. services offered by the airline to selected customers during or after a bad travel experience.

Let me get back to the system we have in place now. Can you think of any other business that waits until the end of the transaction to quote a full price, particularly where the final price may be 30 to 50 percent higher than the base price?

Absolutely not, and flying consumers will clearly not stand for such a model in the airline industry. In fact I doubt many airlines truly support this workflow, keeping in mind their ultimate goal is building a strong, loyal relationship with the customer.

However I come back to the point made earlier, which is that the bulk of this can be solved if available technology is properly implemented both on the airline web site and through the GDS systems.

Should the government ever regulate fare displays? And if so, when?

This is, in fact, a critical point of distinction. I believe that absolutely, the government has every right to regulate and mandate full transparency and visibility for the airline product – in other words, consumers have a right to know what they are buying.

However, let’s not confuse transparency with distribution channel or product display.

Regarding these latter points, I do not believe government should interfere with how a company displays its product, nor how channel-specific points of sale are built, or furthermore, how an airline chooses to distribute its product across intermediary channels. After all, at the end of the day, we are talking about free markets and the rights of a supplier to elect the channels by which to sell its product.

What is the slippery slope argument on government regulation of fares? Is there really a chance we could return to a re-regulated, pre-1978 airline industry?

It boils down to free markets. Airlines sell a set of products and services, much like hotel companies or a myriad of other comparable examples. Consumers can choose to purchase, or not purchase, a specific airline product based on any number of factors.

By the same token, consumers can choose to build — or not build — brand loyalty to an airline supplier depending on that supplier’s capability to deliver quality products and services at the right price/value point for that consumer.

Why would the government interfere with this model? It would seem nobody would win in that scenario – consumers would have fewer choices, and suppliers would have less incentive to differentiate their products.

The Transportation Department has proposed several new price transparency rules. Which one do you think would cause the most harm to the airline industry, and why?

The most harmful of the proposed regulations concerns the concept of government attempting to control how individual airlines choose to distribute and sell their product in various channels. This is an entirely separate issue from transparency.

Would it be fair to assume that what’s bad for the airline industry is also bad for their customers, when it comes to ancillary fees?

Absolutely, yes. What is bad for the airlines would translate into a lower quality product and level of service for airline customers. This goes back again to the concepts I mentioned earlier, regarding the airline movement to a Who’s Asking Pricing Model, or traveler authentication based shopping.

Put simply, the airlines are seeking to customize a product/service offer that aligns fully with individual traveler preferences, trip status and loyalty – a goal which, based on today’s personalized-shopping marketplace, is entirely consistent with today’s mature and discerning marketplace.

If the government or other forces step in and prevent this evolution, all sides will suffer – meaning the airlines will be forced back to a commoditized product status, and consumers will lose the opportunities afforded by brand loyalty and preference-driven shopping. We’ll be back to, “which pencil do you want, the yellow one or the yellow one?” and I sincerely hope we are collectively moving beyond that model.

Do you think there’s anything the airline industry is prepared to do voluntarily to be more transparent with its pricing?

Absolutely, and in fact this is already happening. A growing number of airlines have invested in technology to equip both their airline.com sites as well as indirect (travel agency/GDS) channels to advise consumers of what optional services are available to them either for free or for a fee (often variable based on traveler status or other factors such as trip status, e.g. delays).

The rollout of this newer, Who’s Asking pricing model is being more quickly noticed on airline websites sheerly because this is airline-controlled and therefore capable of faster technology implementations; other channels (indirect/agency/GDS) are dependent on adoption of newer XML-based airline connections.

New standards organizations, such as Open Axis Group, provide the foundation for any indirect channel seeking to migrate to this newer technology, and it is my hope and belief that we will see more mainstream adoption of this across all channels in the next six to twelve months.

Update: Here’s Davidson as a bobblehead.

(Photo: jay Raz/Flickr Creative Commons)

  • Roberto

    Maybe I’m just old-fashioned, but when I book a flight, I really do want to get from point A to point B on a certain schedule for the lowest price. That’s why the kayaks and the orbitzs of the world do so well.

    What else is there really to compete on? Who has the better lousy airplane food?

  • Chuck

    I pretty much understood almost every word of that. Although at times it sounded like a k*ss a** making claims on an episode of “Law & Order”.

    I bought portions of it but being a nit picky type I have high doubts that the majority of airline travelers are “today’s mature and discerning marketplace.”

    I haven’t witnessed “maturity” in any marketplace for a very long time. To me, it has turned into a basic kill or be killed atmosphere that is really downright nasty and lacking of consideration toward anything except profit.

    I just want free access to the toilet, dude, is like asking for the plane to land on a gold plated toilet. Excuse me for being bitter but I am.

  • Brian

    Good interview Chris.

    I do not agree with Jim Davidson’s belief that the airlines do not have the technology to display the full price upfront. The technology is definitely there. Air Canada has this on their website when it comes to Buy on Board, certificates, and checked bags among others when purchasing a fare. Customers can choose what they want easily and the amount is added/subtracted from the fare. The reason why airlines do not want to display their fees upfront is because they do not want to be at a competitive disadvantage with their competitors when it comes to price.

    I believe Spirit Airlines is one such airline where Ben admits that he does not want to display the fees upfront because Spirit will suffer.

  • Jeanne in NE

    What I got out of the “Who’s Asking?” discussion is that airlines prefer that you register online to use their booking websites, so that they can gather more information about you. Why does the ability to send me e-mails and junk mail with credit card offers confer upon me a different purchasing experience than someone off the street? (So to speak.) Shouldn’t the prices and options be the same? Or did I somehow misunderstand the weasel-talk?

  • Datanerd

    The whole tone of Mr. Davidson’s interview responses bother me. ‘Who’s Asking?’ pricing sounds like something that would come from a 1920′s gangster at a speakeasy.

    Dealing with the substantive arguments, it sounds like Mr. Davidson does not want to compete with other airlines on price or quality of service. Instead, he wants to be able to charge each customer as much as possible in the least transparant manner possible. This would make comparing prices across airlines more difficult, and make aggregator websites like Kayak less useful.

    In other words, he wants the airlines to be able to price like monopolists, where they can discriminate based on pricing and extract every last bit of surplus value from the consumer. This kind of ‘Who’s Asking?’ pricing goes a long way toward that.

    I would suggest to Mr. Davidson that he needs to push for competition on the basis of quality of service as well as cost. Airlines need to market based on services offered, much like Southwest does with it’s Bags Fly Free commercials, and provide transparent prices to all consumers so the consumers can choose the mixture of cost and services that they desire.

  • Dan

    “while price-driven shopping is clearly a strong motivator, the old model led to 100 percent commoditization of the airline seat and little to no brand loyalty.”

    But that’s because the airlines really haven’t created much of a brand. A 17.5″ wide, 32″ pitch seat in coach is exactly that. The only airline(s) who have created much of a brand image for their coach passengers are United (Economy Plus) and Jet Blue, with their ability to buy a 38″ pitch seat in the front cabin. Other than that, unless my experience is truly different (and its rarely not) then that 17.5″ wide, 32″ pitch seat is merely a commodity.

    Truth be told, the best “customized experiences” that are coming out are the ones bringing elite experiences to the masses, albeit for a price. As a joe-blow coach passenger, I like the ability to buy into E+ versus not having the option at all.

  • Aaron

    What a huge load of BS. “So-called ‘hidden fees’”? “Optional services?” Spoken like a man who gets his paycheck from the airlines. As far as I’m concerned, If you’re going on vacation, a suitcase is not optional.

    Regardless, we’re not addressing the REAL problem. If you want to stop this madness, all we need to do is get Expedia, Travelocity, etc. to have a “How many bags?” drop-down on their search list, and then include baggage fees. Airlines with low fares and high baggage feels will then be at the bottom of the “Price low-to-high” list, WHERE THEY BELONG. End of problem.

  • Eric

    Sounds to me like “Who’s asking” is a way for the airlines to figure out who they need to take care of, and who they can leave twisting in the wind.

  • MVFlyer

    What a bunch of horse hockey!!! No wonder the airline referred Chris to him–this guy is as slimy as an eel in an oil slick.

    No one is telling the airlines how and where to sell their product–only that the shown price be completely reflective of the product they sell. If they want to charge more through one channel vs. another, that’s fine–this happens all the time (e.g. a book through Amazon is almost always cheaper than the same book through Barnes and Noble.com). Driving the customer to the airlines’ preferred channel (their own websites) is also fine–logically they can make more money, and offer lower fares, through their own site than a third party.

    But crying about ‘regulation’ when in fact it is just reasonable consumer protection–cow muffins.

  • Bunnee

    Building loyalty is a two-way street. I agree, airlines probably want the customer to use their airline habitually. But how many letters have you received from loyal customers with thousands of frequent flyer miles who have been treated poorly by an airline? What value will the airline offer its “loyal” customer? If “Who’s asking” gets me a good seat on the flight I want for a reasonable price, fine. I’ll answer. Anything less than that, why should I bother with loyalty? And by the way, while I understood most of this article, this guy could benefit from some lessons in using English rather than jargon.

  • Les

    I agree with @Jeanne In NE – this selective approach serves the airline, not the customer. Also, kudos to @MVFlyer; “slimy as an eel in an oil-slick” says it perfectly.

    Most corporate employees will remember the ad-hoc game ‘Buzzword Bingo’. Mr Davidson would have been a champ at it. What his jargon and circumlocutions tell me is that the carriers would like to continue hiding their total costs behind a curtain and, as @Eric notes, decide whom to leave twisting.

  • Kevin M

    Beyond all of the criticisms offered above, I think there’s another reason to be scared of what this shill for the airlines is saying. This whole “Who’s Asking” sounds as much like a way to figure out “Who can we charge twice as much?” as it is “Who are our most loyal customers?”

    Imagine, if you will, JumboAirlines putting its computing skills to work and figuring out that John Doe typically flies from point A to point B on a Monday morning and returns on Friday afternoons. They peg him as a business traveler and, knowing his company is probably footing the bill, starts charging him a base fare that’s 20% higher than normal. Knowing it’s the only non-stop in his time frame, they know he’ll probably suck it up and pay it. With all the complexity in fare pricing, he’s unlikely to notice. The fare offer includes a checked bag (something he’s unlikely to use) but it helps mask the fact that the rate is higher.

    Or they peg you as a leisure traveler, since you’re asking for four tickets on a Saturday morning for a weeklong trip to a popular tourist destination. Suddenly, even though the plane is hardly full (not that they’d tell you), you’re only offered seats in the rear of the plane, and your fare offers include no checked bags for free even though other fares at the same rate, for single people, may include a checked bag – because they know a family of four is likely to have a lot of checked luggage for a week’s trip. And – surprise, here’s a fee they haven’t thought up yet – if you pay an extra $15 per seat, they’ll guarantee you can all sit together (even though the plane is only 20% sold at this point and they could accommodate that easily for free).

    After all – the only way “Who’s Asking” will work is if airlines start requiring people to register and log in to “get the best pricing” on a flight. Otherwise, they’re just guessing. And once that happens, you can bet they’ll be trying to figure out a way to get the maximum dollar from everyone based on what they know about you.

  • Carver

    Full disclosure

    I didn’t read the entire article. It seemed like so much BS that I couldn’t take reading an entire article of it.

    Let me see if I understand. The computer knows the full price and can charge me accordingly, but it can’t show me the price.

  • http://airlinemkt.com Jonathon Nield

    “Can you think of any other business that waits until the end of the transaction to quote a full price, particularly where the final price may be 30 to 50 percent higher than the base price?”

    YES! The auto rental industry. I believe that by percentage increase, they are far worse than airlines. Granted that many of those fees are taxes, but airlines roll their taxes (which are also extremely high) into the total fare.

  • Teresa

    Chris, this man Davidson is a practitioner of the dark arts. What’s more, he’s half-mastered the art of making them sound like customer-friendliness (but only half — his insincerity shines right through). Let’s hope that the Who’s Asking pricing model falls flat on its face. After all, on the Internet, nobody knows you’re a dog. Delete your cookies and try that fare search again. Maybe you’ll get a lower rate.