Banned by a car rental company for questioning a charge

When it comes to fees, are travel companies taking a page from the Transportation Security Administration’s playbook? You might be forgiven for thinking so after hearing Eric Hendrix’ story of being added to the equivalent of the “no-fly” list when he tried to rent a car from Alamo.

When Hendrix returned his car to Alamo earlier this month, a supervisor asked for his credit card because she claimed he owed the company another $10.

When I questioned what the charge was, the response was “I don’t know.” I explained that I was turning in the car on time so there is no reason for any extra charges.

I got our corporate travel agent on the phone and she talked to the supervisor. Our agent explained that there should be no extra fees, but if there were, that they should be applied to the business account and not me.

The supervisor was adamant that I owed the money and that it could not be charged to our company’s account. After some pressure, she explained it was a concession fee. When I asked what that meant, the supervisor could not explain it.

“You want me to pay extra for a rental but you can’t tell me why?” I asked her.

The supervisor was clearly frustrated and just said “forget it” and that she would take care of it. I assumed that was the end of it so I left.

But that wasn’t the end of it. Two weeks later, when Hendrix tried to rent from Alamo again, he was told that he’d been banned.

The comment section on my file was blank and that there was no reason listed, I was just flagged as “banned” by the booth supervisor at the Alamo location in Orlando. They removed the ban and asked that I speak to the manager of the Orlando location to see if he could explain why I was banned. But he was unable to offer any real insight on why I was banned, only that he would “look into it” and “talk” to the supervisor that flagged me. No apology.

Did a rogue employee flip a switch that banned Hendrix from ever renting another Alamo car? I asked Alamo, and here’s what I heard back from Laura Bryant, a company spokeswoman.

No one locally put Mr. Hendrix on the “Do Not Rent” list. There was a system error (because his method of payment did not cover part of his charge). The error has been corrected. We also have contacted Mr. Hendrix and personally apologized for the mistake and subsequent confusion.

As you know, we complete millions of car rental transactions every year, and sometimes things do go wrong. However, customer service is the cornerstone of our business — we use industry-leading tools like ASQi (Alamo Service Quality index) and our Quality Service Process program to ensure Alamo’s customers receive great value as well as great service. As a result, we’re very proud that Alamo vaulted to third place in the 2008 J.D. Power and Associates Rental Car Satisfaction Survey.

Interesting. So Alamo’s system couldn’t process a concession fee, which covers the company’s rent and facilities charges paid to the airport. And when it tried to charge one of its corporate customers, and he resisted, that driver was somehow added to the “do not rent” list.

Well, it doesn’t matter if his name was added locally or remotely. No one is disputing that he was on the “do not rent” list and then removed. Neither the Orlando Alamo office or Alamo corporate can explain why.

It may be going too far to say Alamo is using TSA-like tactics to silence dissidents. But next time a manager demands another ten bucks for a rental, you might consider quietly paying it and then disputing the bogus charge with your credit card company.

  • Brian Collier

    Next time don’t use Alamo. Then there won’t be a problem and you win!

  • David

    I disagree that we should just pay it and dispute it, it’s classed as obtaining money by deception is is fraud. No-one could give a valid reason for this charge (which if a true charge should have been included in the original price) and I’d have been tempted to call the police.

    Not everyone thinks to dispute a charge on their card, and those that do are still condoning companies putting extra charges on their cards for any flimsy excuse. We need to learn to say NO, and if these companies don’t want our business then someone who believes in customer service will.

  • Chicky

    Hmmm. Sounds like the supervisor was PO’ed because Mr. Hendrix wouldn’t cough up the extra $10 and put him on the list just to be nasty, knowing he could be removed, and they could always blame it on a computer glitch or something. In other words, “You inconvenienced me, so I’ll inconvenience you.” Maybe I’m just suspcious and a pessimist, but this sounds entirely retaliatory to me –on the supervisor’s part, not Alamo’s. I suspect the corporate office at Alamo was just as puzzled as Mr. Hendrix, until they checked into it, found it was a supervisor’s little jab and immediately yelled “system error!” to cover their tails. If there’s any justice in the world, maybe that supervisor is now washing Alamo cars rather than renting them.

  • Jane

    This article was good in bringing public awareness to such unscrupulous tactics by Alamo. But it’s a sad day when we are given the advice to let our credit card company handle a disputed charge instead of fighting the crooked company that we had an unfortunate business dispute with. It just condones their crooked business model. Don’t give in to unscrupulous business tactics!! And don’t rent cars from Alamo!!

  • Carver

    I gave up renting with Alamo years ago. After arriving at 11pm to get my car, I was told, sorry, no more convertibles, even though they ran an authorization for one. Okay, give me something else, they gave me a PT cruiser and charged my credit card another authorization. The PT Cruiser lacked a battery. Went back to the front, they wanted to charged a third authorization to which I refused. They finally found me a car from National. The entire transaction took about 2 hours. That’s the longest i’ve ever been at a car rental place in my life.

  • Carrie Charney

    What if my credit card company just doesn’t back me up? Then I’m out the $10.00 and Alamo gets away with it. Funny how the system doesn’t get corrected until an influential ombudsman gets involved!

  • AL

    I’ve never had a good experience with Alamo. I stopped using them, years ago. Perhaps it’s time for Eric’s bosses to change policy and switch rental companies.

  • David Z

    Maybe I’m just suspcious and a pessimist, but this sounds entirely retaliatory to me –on the supervisor’s part, not Alamo’s. I suspect the corporate office at Alamo was just as puzzled as Mr. Hendrix, until they checked into it, found it was a supervisor’s little jab and immediately yelled “system error!” to cover their tails.

    You’re not the only one suspicious, Chicky. That’s exactly what I figured, too.

    If they’re aware of Advantage’s Chapter 11 filing, then they’d better know they can’t afford things like this.

  • Matthew

    I just added Alamo to my ‘banned from renting cars to Matthew’ list. Unfortunately there is no one to whom they can appeal. The only rescourse is to hire all new employees who are not too stupid to explain charges to a customer.

    I feel Alamo will be on that list for quite some time.

  • Joe Farrell

    I would be immediately suspicious of any club that wants me as a member – hence – I turned down AARP recently . . . . and would think that if Alamo does not want you, well, you do have a choice when renting cars – a dwindling choice perhaps – but a choice nontheless. Use it.

  • Carlo

    Chris, you yourself are an advocate for speaking to someone onsite to take care of problems immediately. You’ve said repeatedly not to pay and then call later because it’s that much more difficult to resolve the issue. You certainly can’t count on your credit card company to back you up, especially not in this economy. NOW you’re backtracking on that advice? I think that’s bad advice. Frankly, I’d as soon remove my business from Alamo permanently if this is how they’re going to treat customers over $10 – especially a corporate customer, since we all know corporate customers are the bigger spenders in the travel world.

  • http://www.ffocus.org Mr Bad Example

    Rental car providers are IMO the ultimate Bullies.

    They make Spirit Airlines look like Singapore Airlines when it comes to bad Customer Service and BS rules and attempts to gouge.

    I have the Customer Service line and the corporate travel number saved on my cell and I am not the least bit shy about calling them in front of the Station Manager.

    BTW I’ve NEVER lost a dispute. I’ve gone so far as opening up the laptop and went to the Consumer Fraud ppage of the States Attorney General’s office while waiting for the manager.

    Now you can imagine the Manager’s reaction.

    I’ve also told them “Don’t even think about playing the banning game because if you strand me someplace you can count on a lawsuit.”

  • Carver

    @Carlo

    Chris isn’t so much changing his advice and tailoring it to the situation. Under normal circumstances, standing your ground and escalating the dispute is Chris’ normal advice. That is good advice in most situations particularly since there usually isn’t a downside.

    However, Chris is acknowledging that in some limited circumstances that advice may produce unwanted consequences such as being banned.

  • http://www.best-car-rental-tips.com Jerry

    I agree with paying and then disputing the charge… especially for $10

    Mistakes happen, and the majority of companies want to fix them. Building a customer loyalty through customer service is important to many companies and if you dispute a charge in a calm, concise manner, through the proper channels you can get results. Just stay calm and don’t give up! Mr Elliott wrote a great post on this very topic!

  • Michelle B.

    Am I the only one who thought “the person is asking for my personal credit card and won’t put the charge on my credit card on file, so s/he must be scamming my card for their own personal, illegal shenanigans”?

  • http://www.ffocus.org Mr Bad Example

    No Michelle B. you weren’t the only one who thought that. I would have told him to call the police and have me arrested and that would result in a BIG world of hurt of for the manager, what with the subsequent lawsuit against the car company.

  • Eric Hendrix

    Thanks for all the support guys and gals; I appreciate it.

    I have rented, both personally and professionally, for just over 14 years with Alamo. Because of my job, that adds up to well into the hundreds of car rentals over the years. I was irritated because of the Ban, not because of the $10. I knew the $10 was a mistake, my corporate travel agent knew it was a mistake…I just wanted the supervisor to realize it also; but she wouldn’t.

    When I found out 2 weeks later that I had been Banned….I was slightly irritated to say the least. Thanks to Chris I got the apology I was after, but still not much of an explanation on what happened overall.

    I do want to point out that the official response from Alamo states “No one locally put Mr. Hendrix on the “Do Not Rent” list.”. This is simply not true, because I was told by the Customer Service Dept. at the 1-800 number I called that it was an employee at the Orlando location that had flagged me. The Customer Service Dept. tried to contact the Orlando office to speak with the Manager to find out more information but was unable to get him on the phone. When I spoke to the Manager he confirmed it was the employee there, but again, no reason why and he would look into it.

    @ Michelle B: I didn’t have a Credit Card on file with them, it was a Corporate rental that was being charged to our business account. That is what started all of this because they said the $10 charge wouldn’t go on the Corporate Account so they needed a Credit Card from me to charge.

  • http://raulzambrana.webs.com/ Raul

    I would not pay and then dispute… that is just ridiculous and once they have your money, it is hard and a long time before a customer gets it back… no way, Jose!

  • Brian

    Banned for questioning a charge. That’s very bad business practice. I once questioned a charge on a recent rental from Alamo, and managed to get about $35 back because the total price, after returning the car, was higher than the quoted rate + my family returned the car on time. Turned out, Alamo was basing the return on the time my family entered the car rental office and not when we actually picked up the car, since there was a delay in getting the car.

    Back to the banning for questioning a charge, I think Alamo should investigate who is this “rogue” employee, whether at a corporate or franchise location.

  • Travel_sucks

    This is why I stopped traveling almost completely. Airlines and their entire ecosystem sucks. Rental cars are up there as well — nickel and diming you all the way to bankruptcy.

    When I do travel I go out of my way to avoid these people. If I rent I use a local rental agency the night before and do a drop off at the airport or pickup from a local hotel that has shuttle service (to avoid all the airport bogus add on fees).

    I use shuttles when possible — and neg. the rate on the spot. You can get a shuttle van just for you for much less than a metered taxi — depends on circumstances.

    I travel off hours typically. Also helps with prev. tip.

    Airlines and their employees suck. That is a given. So plan accordingly. Don’t expect food, service, etc… and just come prepared. Personally I think British Airways is the worst.

  • Ed

    I had a bad experience with Alamo…once…and that’s all it took! Now I’m an Avis renter…and they treat me fine!
    Ed
    web/gadget guru

  • hugh

    I wouldn’t pay the 10 bucks and then try to refute it. Let them ban me there are plenty of car rental companies.

  • Mike

    It’s amazing they would ban a very frequent customer over 10 freaking bucks. Talk about cutting off one’s nose…I wouldn’t pay it either.

  • http://www.auto-europe.co.uk Gemma

    I can understand your frustration at Alamo. If you’re being charged additional fees by a car hire company, a full explanation should always be provided.

    I work with car hire brokerage Auto Europe, and one of the best pieces of advice I could give to anyone hiring a car for the first time is to read the terms and conditions thoroughly. It can seem like a complicated business, and there’s nothing worse than getting charged for something you were completely unaware of.

    If any of our customers come across problems like these through the suppliers Auto Europe partners with, we’d always advise them to get in touch and we’ll do our best to sort it, either through customer services, or comments to our blog: http://blog.auto-europe.co.uk/

  • http://www.unitedprivatecar.com/ Corporate car service Boston

    As for me I do not like travelling at all. I would rather stay at home and having fun my friend in my hometown.

  • National Car Rental Invades Privacy

    If you have any desire to protect your personal privacy, and to do business only with companies that respect you, you will not rent a car from National or their sister company, Alamo. Here’s why…

    Try dialing any of National Car Rental’s toll free reservation numbers (ex. 800-328-1234) from a VOIP line, especially a SKYPE line, and you will get endless ringing. Nobody will answer. Why? Because, as I was told by a National “customer service rep”, “National needs your home and cell phone numbers to service you better”. Huh? Say what?

    The truth is that National wants more detailed customer info so that they can sell it – you are aware that your personal info is worth money, right? – and also, of course, so that you have nowhere to hide from their marketing weasels.

    If you call National – Alamo from a SKYPE number, all National captures is the SKYPE termination number, and your privacy is protected…and National apparently doesn’t like that.

    So, rent Hertz and Avis.

  • Boss

    My rental business struggles to keep pace with the issues a small % of customers create. Between not paying accident liability, not returning car, chargebacks for original rental fees, and the daily threats to add on consumer based sites.
    I d like to see a blacklist. Unfortunately not too many industries offer a $20k + product , out the door with no less than a CC and license..

  • http://twitter.com/cherylpet Haviva

    I have my own DNR list! It is called :DO NOT RENT FROM ALAMO, OR NATIONAL! The problem is other car rental agencies will abide by National/Alamo’s DNR list, and will refuse to rent a car to you! I had that happen with Enterprise! It is OUTRAGEOUS!

  • John W.

    That’s because Enterprise Holding, the parent company, owns Enterprise, Alamo and National, You get on one of these company’s shit list for what ever reason, you’re on the entire organizations shit list.

  • http://twitter.com/HavivaP Haviva

    It didn’t matter to Enterprise that they were local to me, and I own a home where they pick me up, and that I have been a good customer for five years; as soon as National acquired them, I was no longer allowed to rent (from them!) National said I threw down one of their fliers on the floor in anger when they wouldn’t allow me to rent using my debit card. Big whoop! That had to have been well over ten years ago! Then I followed their directions for getting off their shit list, but each time I did what they said, nothing happened! No one who said they would call back ever did, nothing changed! Insane!