Passenger charged an extra $2,600 after airline delay makes her miss flight

American Airlines recommends you check in two hours before an international flight. But Fran Mingle’s friend showed up two hours and twenty minutes before her flight from Orlando back to Japan, missed the plane and had to pay $2,600 to get home. What gives?

This is hardly an isolated case. I routinely hear about passengers who miss their flights because of inadequate staffing at check-in counters, security delays and other airport-related problems. Increasingly, airlines are taking a hard line on tardy customers. If you don’t show up at the gate in time, they charge you for a new ticket.

Here’s Mingle’s story:

My son has had a houseguest from Japan for the holidays. He dropped her at the Orlando International Airport for her return flight back to Japan. She got in line at the American Airlines counter two hours and twenty minutes before her flight.

There were only a few ticket agents at the counter so the line went on forever. She waited and waited. After getting concerned about missing her flight because of the inordinate delay, she asked if she could be accommodated next but the American Airlines personnel told her “no.”

She had to remain in line and wait her turn. By the time they got to her and opened up her reservation they refused to process her boarding pass. They said she would never make the flight in 30 minutes.

American’s advice? Next time, get here earlier.

They offered to put her on the next morning’s flight for an additional charge of $2,600. This is an outrage. American Airlines creates a situation that caused this passenger to forfeit their seat and they offer to sell it back to them at an inflated price. She missed her flight, missed her connecting flight in Japan with another carrier and missed work. And furthermore, when this passenger expressed concern about missing her flight they refuse to accommodate her and told her to get back in line and wait her turn.

I asked American Airlines about this case. Here’s its response:

While we make every effort to ensure there are enough agents staffing our ticket counters, it is not always possible to forecast the number of customers who will need assistance — especially when unexpected circumstances cause long lines. Unfortunately, as she experienced on Jan. 5, there are occasions when lines move slower than we would like, and our customers are inconvenienced.

Whenever possible, we try to obtain additional manpower — either to help customers check in at the counter or to identify those customers whose flight times are fast approaching so they can be given priority.

Accordingly, we regret that when she advised our agent that her flight time was imminent, she wasn’t accommodated. It is possible, however, that our agent working the line knew there were other customers ahead of her with similar or sooner flight times than hers. In that case, it would not have been fair to advance her in line.

If we determine that the sequence of customers in our check-in lines compares pretty closely with their respective flight times, the best that we can do is efficiently process the line as quickly as we can. Still, we apologize again for this undoubtedly frustrating experience and I’ve shared your comments with our General Manager in Orlando to ensure our personnel are following correct procedure in this regard.

I don’t think it’s fair to charge a passenger for another ticket when you’re running an understaffed check-in counter. But there a few ways passengers like Mingle’s friend can avoid this problem in the future.

First, keep in mind that during peak times — before and after major holidays — check-in counters tend to get busy. It’s best to give yourself an extra hour to check in.

Second, consider checking in online and printing a boarding pass. Many airlines have two check-in lines: one for passengers who have already checked in and need to tag their luggage (and it’s usually shorter) and one for the rest.

Finally, if it looks as if you’re going to miss your flight, whip out your cell phone and call the airline. It may be able to rebook without charging extra or tell you how to expedite your check-in when a ticket agent is being less than cooperative.

I think American owes Mingle’s guest a full refund.

Update (Jan. 12, 2009): American is sending her a voucher for $2,600, according to my contact at the airline.

  • Elizabeth

    I had a similar situation a year and a half ago, but I did end up making my flight (barely).

    I was flying from Boston to Orlando on JetBlue. My flight was leaving at 6:30 am on a Saturday in July. I got to the airport at 5:15am (a little later than I had planned). I didn’t get to the counter until 6:00am. It didn’t look like they were short staffed, but there were a ton of people in line. Luckily the guy checked me in quick and security wasn’t too busy, but I still had to run to my gate to make it in time, with less than 5 minutes to spare.

    Even though I consider myself very computer and gadget savvy, for some reason I don’t like using the self-service kiosks when I have checked baggage. I kept staring it the kiosks while in line but somehow couldn’t convince myself they would be okay to use.

    I must say with all the things I hate about United, I really like their hybrid version of the self checkout. You bring up your flight and baggage info, then an agent comes by, checks your ID, tags your bags, and hands you your ticket. When I flew to Chicago last year the lines moved very quickly both at Logan and O’Hare. Of course because of my experience with almost missing my flight before, I was there over two hours early and got my tickets in less than 10 minutes. Go figure.

  • Carver

    Another suggestion is to be a frequent flier on the airline that you are traveling on, or one of its partners. I realize Chris doesn’t think much of alliances, but had Mingle’s friend had some status she could have used a priority line which might have been faster. Also, in the priority lines, you tend to get less surly agents and a greater chance of being helped.

  • Mike

    “First, keep in mind that during peak times — before and after major holidays — check-in counters tend to get busy. It’s best to give yourself an extra hour to check in.”

    Airlines know this and THEY should be the ones who make sure they have enough staff on hand to process their customers. I understand that it makes sense to make sure you are in time for a flight, but 2 hours should be more than enough time to check in and make it to a plane. Do retail stores not alter their employee schedules and hire additional staff during the holidays to accomodate the paying customers?

    I also thinks the girl deserves a refund and an apology.

  • Judi

    A similar thing happened to me Xmas 2007. I had a 0630 flight out of LAX on American Airlines to Norfolk. I arrived at 0240 (I always double the amount of time to check in). The lines were incredible! The lines snaked out of the terminal and down the street. It took 2 hours to check in- the kiosks weren’t working for some reason. The rest of the time I waited in the stupid TSA line. At around 0600 I asked a TSA agent for help as I knew I wouldn’t make it to the gate in time. I should note that I have MS and walk with the aid of 2 canes. TSA refused to help and told me I should have judged my time better. I finally got through at 0620 and told my husband to run and not to miss the flight, I’d come when I could get another flight.
    This was the last time I flew and I will never fly again. No matter the cost or the inconvenience I will either take a bus, train or drive myself. I spent Xmas alone, thanks to both American and the almighty TSA.

  • Monica

    I’m surprised so many people still follow the “2-hour” rule in a post 9/11 world. I recommend getting to the airport 3-4 hours early and bring a good book., DS, and iPod. I don’t mind sitting to wait. Being early ensures that I can take my time at the counter to check baggage, get through security, and make it to my gate. I always try to get there while the flight before mine is boarding.

    I read far too many horror stories about people missing flights even though they were “15 minutes before the recommended time.” Like Chris says, peak hours should signal a traveler to leave earlier and check-in online if possible. So many adults whine about missing flights, but reading some of these stories, some are just lack of planning. I work in extra time to my schedule for accidents on the highway, long ticket and security lines, and boarding. Many people forget that boarding actually starts 20 minutes before the time listed on tickets. Showing up at the gate at 4:55 for a 5:00 flight is not “ok” and within the right times. I wish tickets would list “time to be at the gate to get on the plane” instead.

  • Rama

    Chris – Does American have a contract of which has provisions for passengers who are delayed because of operational problems – like you mentioned in the other article in your front page?

  • Jess

    Wow… I fly out of EWR often and have never had a problem getting to my flight on time if I arrive 2 – 2 1/2 hours early. I think that it’s unreasonable to expect passengers to get to the airport any earlier than that, unless it is one of the peak flying days (holidays). I can see how it is in any passenger’s best interest to check in online if at all possible (with most people having computers at their homes and kiosks being installed in hotels, this is not a hardship for most people), but a passenger should not be penalized for the check-in counters being understaffed or ineffecient.

  • Joe

    My wife got sick at the end of our trip to Italy and we had to come back one day late. I had round-trip fare on American and changing the ticket turned into a nightmare. Taking into consideration the money-grab associated with changing the ticket: change fees, “convenience” charges, $50 punishment for changing so so close to the departure date, etc., it turned out that it would cost less to book new airfare than try to change our original $1,700 round-trip itinerary. The going rate was $4,000 to get the both of us home on 2 days notice. I scoured all the web sites looking for deals while my wife threw up in the hotel bathroom.

    Completely disgusted, i called up American, explained the situation, got them to drop the change fee and waive the “doctors note” requirement that they apparently have whenever they waive the change fee (they’ve got to be kidding me, right?) and somehow with all this “courtesy,” still ended up paying $3,200 on top of the original $1,700. So, total that together and we got hit for nearly $5k to get to Italy and back in cattle class.

    When the hotel learned of my wife’s sickness, they sent up a free bottle of water and offered an extra night at 135 Euro. We paid for it using points and the going rate at this place was 300-400 Euro.

    I mean what’s wrong with this picture?

  • J. C.

    I agree with Monica about people thinking the two hour rule is still ok in this day.
    With airlines cutting back on personnel, and the traffic problems you can face getting to the airport, you never know when the check in and security lines are going to be around the corner and out the door.

    I also recommend getting to the airport 3-4 hours before your flight. My wife and I bring our books and don’t mind sitting and relaxing.

    Better Safe Than Sorry

    I also check in on line and print boarding passes and using kiosks can save time.

    It’s easy to say that the airlines and TSA should have the proper amount of people to handle the crowds, and they should, but in this day and time they don’t,so we should plan for the worst and play it safe.

    It’s our responsibility to get to the airport on time and they will not cut us slack if it’s busy. So plan for a zoo, because it is a zoo out there and give yourself a comfort zone.

    It’s worth the peace of mind.

  • Carver Farrow

    Okay now, let’s put some of this in perspective. These carte blanche numbers of 3-4 hours reflect either a lack of regular flying or lack of status in a frequent flyer program. The time needed to arrive at an airport is a function of many variables. The biggest variables are do you know the airport; have often have you flown out of that airport before; do you have status which will allow you to use the frequent flier/first class line; and will you be checking luggage?

    The three airports that I frequent most are LAX, SFO, and SJC. At the American Airlines terminal, the TSA lines can be daunting, however, in the frequent traveler line is rarely more than 15 minutes through. Same with SFO and SJC. The TSA frequent traveler lines rarely tops 5 minutes. So under those circumstances arriving even two hours early would be foolish barring exceptional circumstances.

    By the same token, last year I flew out of Detroit. Since I had never flown out of that airport, I gave myself the recommended 2 hours. As it turned out, that was a good thing because American Airlines didn’t really have a frequent flier line and it took a good 45 minutes to get through the TSA line.

    We hear horror stories such as Mingle’s friend. However, with a little planning, a little research, and some good common sense, we don’t need to arrive at the airport 4 hours before traveling domestically.

  • Joe Farrell

    The AA website states you need to CHECK IN 2 hours before the flight – not arrive at the airport 2 hours. There is a huge difference there.

    Now, that being said said, there is a breach of contact here – actually a tort. Breach of the covenant of good faith and fair dealing. This is inherent in all contracts and cannot be contracted away with disclaimers. The specific claim here is that American needs to have sufficient employees available to handle necessary pre-flight activities common to most travelers at appropriate times given expected demand.

    That all being said – why did she need to check in with a human being? If you put your passport number and date in the proper fields you can check in internationally since the info is verified by the airline when they cross check the info with ICE/DHS/TSA the day before.

    I agree with everyone else that the airlines needs to schedule additional staff on busy days – the problem is you know they won’t since there is no cost to not doing so – they actually make money from increased fares and change charges.

    Sooner or later travelers and lawyers will start filing class actions over these understaffing issues and it WILL cause the costs of not staffing with a $10 hour employee to exceed the cost of properly staffing. If you think about it – with airlines in Chapter 11 you are never sure when you travel if you can even sue the airline. If they ARE in chapter 11 you cannot sue them without permission – it would seem that given the passenger hostile environment, that it is in the airlines best interest to be in bankruptcy, rather than out. . . .

    Look, US airline travel has devolved to what it was in Africa in the 1970′s and 80′s – the only difference is that as an American you do not get deferential treatment.

  • Monica

    @ Carver: Most of the world is not part of a frequent flyer program or can afford first class seats, so their reality is having to wait in the regular check-in and TSA lines. Most people are only traveling to be with family for the holidays or special occassions. Once a year travelers have no reason to sign up for a frequent flyer program since it would take years to accumulate enough miles to get anything worthwhile out of them.

    I frequently fly out of DCA. I know the airport like the back of my hand. I live <40 minutes from the airport. I will still leave my house at least 3-3.5 hours before the flight. I am flying to MCO in April. My flight is at 8:30, and we are already planning on leaving the house NLT 5. Sure I’ll check in online, but living in DC I know that I will also be at the front end of morning rush hour traffic (we leave on a Thursday). We will do this even though the US Airways website says we only need to check-in 45 minutes early. Usually it only takes me that long, but I will never try to push my luck. Like J.C. said, better safe than sorry and it’s worth the peace of mind.

  • SaskatoonMark

    At least two of the previous comment-ers have said to show up at the airport four hours early. They must be kidding! What planet are you on? I know of no airline that will accept checked baggage more than three hours in advance. (Checking of baggage seems to be the worst bottleneck of the procedure in my experience.) So what do these people do? Sit on a bench for an hour while waiting for the three-hour deadline to occur, and then get in line? I fly lots of places, and three hours is plenty at even the worst airports (e.g., LHR), even with checked luggage.

    Fran Mingle needs to get a lawyer and seek punitive damages. Joe Farrell raises excellent points about the legal issues. American Airlines won’t give a damn until they start getting hauled into court on a recurring basis.

  • pyromomma

    I have always had problems flying AA and I prefer to use Delta or United. That aside, International check-in does takes longer. But two full hours in line and then miss her flight is inexcusable. She deserves a full refund and an apology. The agents should have been more proactive on this. And you know that there were others that were also in that same boat. Don’t you think that if the airlines wer required to pay a peanlty for such actions that she would have been escorted to the front of the line immediately?

    But I think there were a couple of factors here, too.
    As a Japanese exchange student, culturally she was not going to be aggressive in finding out what the delay was. The Japanese are excruciatingly polite. That cultural barrier is one that is hard to overcome and harder to anticipate.

    There may have also been language barriers: when visiting Japan for the first time last year we discovered that although most Japanese can read English, they sometimes have a hard time following verbal English, especially if it is accented by Southern drawl. If we wanted to be understood we wrote things down.

    Her exchange family had an obligation to make sure that she got on that flight, not just drop her off at the airport. That is a little rude.

  • pyromomma

    Oh, one more thing- if you are impaired or have trouble getting around, you should request a wheelchair and assistance from the time you get there, at any plane changes, and when you arrive. They will check you in at the curb (or escort you to a special agent if International and need a passport check) and then wheel you through the same TSA portal that the First Class and pilots/FA use (shorter lines) and in the case of a delay they are required to hold the plane for you (according to my sister who is a flight attendant for Alaska Airlines). I would presume that latter one is if you have checked in and are on the way to the gate.
    My mom just flew that way – she can walk but slowly. She would have never made it through C.O’Hare to her connecting flight without a wheelchair assist. Her connection was tight and weather delayed her inbound flight- the other plane was also delayed, so I do not know if they actually would have held it for her. I would not be surprised if the Disabilities Act covers that.
    No extra charge, but she did tip the attendant a nice tip for being so nice to her. It only took a 5 minute phone call to arrange it ahead of time. Easy.

  • Carlo

    Also @ Carver – one thing you left out of your list is the specific airport. Specifically: how big is it? You’re probably used to flying in and out of larger airports, but the smaller ones are probably a little easier because they don’t require such a large lead time. On the other hand, you probably wouldn’t be catching an international flight from a smaller airport, either…

  • Allison

    Nice to know all these “3-4 hour airporters” have so much free time…I fly multiple times a month, domestically and internationally, in various parts of the country and never have had to deal with more than 45 minutes from door to gate, even during the holidays. If the lines are long, check in with the skycaps, use the kiosks, use your brain a little. Even better, check in on line before you even leave for the airport. I really wonder if these “3 hour” horror stories are not more the result of ignorance versus actual wait times.

  • Lisa

    Wow, I read these comments with awe and astonishment that so many consumers willingly give up 3, 4 and 5 hours of their time in order to fly. Why should consumers have to arrive more than 2 hours ahead of time because airlines choose to be short staffed and TSA agents are surly and unaccommodating? We need high speed rail as an alternative to flying. Once you add together 5 hours arrival before flight, flight time, waiting for delayed baggage, and the stress of air travel, train travel becomes so much more appealing. The TGV in France is comfortable and timely. Alas the US is a country that is very far behind the times compared to Europe and Japan. I am glad to know I am not the only one, but I would like to know why so many of us consumers suffer and nothing changes.

  • Lisa

    Dear Joe,

    I understand that your wife was ill. I have been sick at the airport and it is not pleasant. It seems to me that nowadays you just have to go to the airport and get sick in front of everybody, make the lives of airline staff difficult and tell the staff that this is their company’s fault. Then maybe the airline will start providing service.

    I was very sad to hear about your terrible experience and think that we should follow Joe Farrell’s suggestion that we bring class action suits against the airlines. Surely there is a law office that would want to get in on this. All it takes is a website to which consumers can write about their individual experiences, legal staff to sort the cases, and energetic lawyers to sock it to the airlines. At this point, I don’t care if I see a dime. I just want the airlines to provide the services we pay for.

  • Carrie Charney

    Although I am a frequent flyer, I find that I cannot print my boarding pass at home for some international flights. That said, I am one of those who allows extra time to get to the airport and then purposely takes the non-elite line in order to take up more time. I’m retired, and therefore have the luxury to do this.

    I was horrified by Judi’s story. She arrived almost 4 hours before her domestic flight and still missed her plane. Despite her having to use canes, TSA obnoxiously refused assistance. Although Judi didn’t actually need it, I wonder if reserving a wheel chair would have helped her get through more quickly. It is sad that she feels she cannot fly again, but I can certainly understand it.

  • David Z

    The specific claim here is that American needs to have sufficient employees available to handle necessary pre-flight activities common to most travelers at appropriate times given expected demand.

    Two questions to that, though: are: a) how much is sufficient, and b) who decides that, short of a judge answering those? I won’t claim to know the American justice system, but I’m guessing there’ll be lots of nitpicky questions of that sort should a class-action lawsuit (knock on wood) be filed for this.

    This is probably one reason travel agencies like the one I worked with tell people to check-in 1-2 hours before domestic and 2-3 before international. With so many things at play, there isn’t necessarily any 100% surefire way to really tell when one should check-in before their scheduled flight.

    This is also probably a tall order, but it might be nice if the airlines can provide some kind of approximate figures at certain airports so people have an idea how soon to check-in. Surely they have figures from the past couple of years to give a “guesstimate”, unless someone’s actually doing that as we comment.

    But of course, that’s always subject to change based on a number of variables. I’d imagine that’s a logistical nightmare, though.

    So until that ever happens, one will have to proactively figure out on their own how much time they can both afford and need to make it on time.

  • Monique

    The comments about airline having sufficient employees available to work their ticket counters is a bit naive. If all the passengers arrive at the airports 3-4 hours before their flight then how can those who arrive 1-2 hours before flights be processed in a timely manner? How would American know how to staff if they don’t know when all the passengers are going to arrive? Passengers should take into account whether or not they are traveling on high-volume travel days, such as Fridays, Sundays, Monday mornings, or holidays.

  • Carver Farrow

    @Monica

    You inadvertently made my point. You know DCA like the back of your hand and as such you have determined that you need to leave your home 3 hours early. By contrast. I know my local airports like the back of my hand and I know how long it takes. My closest airport, SJC ( San Jose) is considered a tiny airport given that San Jose is the 10th largest city in America. I flew in and out of the airport for seven years without any frequent flier status. The TSA lines are tiny. It would be silly to arrive 4 hours early for a domestic flight out of San Jose. I generally plan to be at the airport about 1 hour before my flight if checking bags, about 40 minutes (online check-in) before otherwise. It’s usually a very leisurely stroll to the gate.

    @Joe Farrell

    The AA website does not claim that the REQUIRED CHECK IN TIME is 2 hours before the flight. It gives RECOMMENDED CHECK IN TIMES, of between 60 and 90 minutes for most domestic flights. For flights to the USVI, the recommended check in time is 2 hours.

    The problem with your legal analysis about litigation is congressional preemption. Congress has chosen to heavily regulate the airlines. As such, small claims notwithstanding, it is nearly impossible to sue an airline in state court. Consequently, state causes of action such of breach of the covenant of good faith and fair dealings are inapplicable unless there is a federal analogy.

  • http://malcontentist.com malcontent

    This is outrageous. Because I have elite status on the airlines I usually fly, I don’t often think about the poor “commoners” who have to wait in those lines to get an international boarding pass. Arriving 2+ hours before a flight should be enough for check in, no matter the airport or holiday. Since 9/11 airlines have tried to do more with less via service reductions and staffing cuts. We are clearly past the limit now; they have overshot the mark. US airlines need to start taking responsibility and providing some customer service.

  • Mike

    @Monique “The comments about airline having sufficient employees available to work their ticket counters is a bit naive. If all the passengers arrive at the airports 3-4 hours before their flight then how can those who arrive 1-2 hours before flights be processed in a timely manner? How would American know how to staff if they don’t know when all the passengers are going to arrive? Passengers should take into account whether or not they are traveling on high-volume travel days, such as Fridays, Sundays, Monday mornings, or holidays.”

    Will all respect, I think if anyone is naive here it is you. The airlines KNOW how many flights they have outgoing or incoming at any given time. They KNOW how many people bought tickets and how many will be leaving an airport at any given time. It would be very easy for them to look at their numbers and figure that they need to add an extra person between such and such a time on Fridays, Sundays, monday mornings, or holidays. The fact that so many people just forgive them and blame the paying customers is beyond comprehension. The TSA is the same way. It would be very easy for them to know how many people will be departing between say 8am and 10am on Monday. therefore, they would have extra personnel on staff for the two hours before so that everyone moves through efficiently.

    There are quite a few companies who manage times like this through staffing programs. Large companies who operate distribution centers all use this technology to plan for holidays and other peak business and shipping times. To think that a company as large as a national airline would somehow not be able to do this is nuts.

    In Cleveland it used to be that each airline had a different line for x number flight. This way only people who were in a certain line were going on a specific flight. It seems that they have mostly all gone (or at least from what I’ve seen) to where they have one long line and regardless of where you are going, you need to check in at the same place. I’m sure this saves rent $$, but when you do this, you need to make sure you are staffed to handle the lines and people that you know will be coming to fly with you.

  • Chicky

    I’m a member of several frequent-flyer programs, but since I don’t fly much, it doesn’t do me that much good. When possible, I absolutely recommend checking in online the day before and printing the boarding pass. If this is not possible, I use the kiosks, if available. I try not to check bags, so that helps, but I have occasionally been caught in one of “those” lines. I flew from BHM to DEN in 2004. At that time, United didn’t have a check-in kiosk at the BHM airport, so I had to wind through the line.

    I was at the airport in PLENTY of time, but the individual in front of me flying to (I kid you not) Singapore, with six children, who wanted to change all the seating, nearly robbed me of my sanity. There was an angry hum starting, and finally, the agent said, “Sir, your flight to Atlanta doesn’t leave for two hours and I’ve got to get some of these people checked in whose flights leave sooner. Please have a seat and when the next agent comes on duty in about 10 minutes, she will take care of you.” The guy didn’t like it (oh, was he EVER ticked off!), but there were people whose flights were leaving within the hour and they needed to get checked in. I’d have given my right arm for a kiosk that day!!

    Having said that, I also agree with the poster who said the woman’s host family should have stayed with her until she got checked in. A pushy American might have been able to help her expedite her check-in process.

    Regardless, AA owes this woman a full refund and an apology.

  • Monica

    Lisa said “Wow, I read these comments with awe and astonishment that so many consumers willingly give up 3, 4 and 5 hours of their time in order to fly. Why should consumers have to arrive more than 2 hours ahead of time because airlines choose to be short staffed and TSA agents are surly and unaccommodating?”

    Consumers have to arrive that early because we know that – generally speaking – the counters are likely to be understaffed and are working in that compensation of time into the schedule. And we know that the TSA lines are long.

    I agree… I shouldn’t have to check-in more than 2 hours. I don’t see airlines changing their habits anytime soon, though.

  • Sevenseat

    I think there are two lessons here: first is that you have to be able to do a little math with hours and minutes; and second, you have to use all the tools you have available. I fly internationally several times a year, usually out of EWR. Getting to the terminal two hours early is plenty of time for an international flight if you have checked in online, printed your boarding pass and don’t have to check bags. Even if you need to use a kiosk you should be fine. You then have to start adjusting based on the other factors like weather, holidays, full moon, etc. and compensate for them. When I fly home from Europe, I can’t print my boarding pass online, I know I am going to have to answer questions about what electronic devices I have with me and stand in the non-EU line at passport control. I add time for these delays and if I get through faster, I have more time to eat breakfast.

  • Allan

    I am not saying that American needs to do more planning and scheduling or hire more agents.

    There was only one thing American needed to do.

    Honor her ticket as-is on the next available flight.

  • Jennifer

    That almost happened to me once. Due to some sort of computer screw-up, they didn’t finish checking people in until about an hour after the flight was scheduled to depart. They ended up holding the flight until every passenger had been checked in. That wasn’t great for passengers who had connections, but what should they have done? Taken off for a 15-hour flight with a 3/4 empty plane that should have been full, when the rest of the passengers were just waiting to check in?

  • Lyngengr

    A lot of delay checking in and going through security is because of ignorance. Let me give you an example. I was flying out of LAX yesterday on United. I had checked in prior to arrival but didn’t have a boarding pass, and I needed to check a bag. The United domestic counter at LAX is huge – probably 50 terminals. The line waiting to check in was probably 50 people, not moving, and well over half of the terminals were empty. I waited a few minutes to see what was going on, and noticed a few people at the front of the line waiting, apparently to talk with a ticket agent. So these knuckleheads were holding up the entire line. Several people, including yours truly, ducked under the ropes, fired up the closest terminal, got our boarding pass, and checked our bags. When I finished, there were still a lot of people in line, so I told them they could just duck under the ropes and use any terminal. Well over half the line emptied out. A few asked me about bags – I told them they will take the bags right there. Sometimes United has an agent at the head of the line directing traffic, but yesterday they didn’t. The people in line didn’t know they could use the terminals, and didn’t have to wait to talk with an agent.

  • Daryl

    Carrie is correct; some airlines won’t allow you to print an international boarding pass in advance – ESPECIALLY if you are not an American citizen and require that the ticket agent check your documentation.

    Elite status will probably get you through the check-in process quicker, but depending on the airport, may not get you through security any faster (for example, SLC has priority lines for Delta Medallion but not for other elites).

  • Brian

    I almost missed a flight back in May 2007. I was flying back home from Las Vegas to Los Angeles and I lost a lot of time trying to find the consolidated car rental facility. Luckily I had no bags to check-in, the Southwest Airlines kiosk sped up the check-in process, and the security line was small. If it weren’t for those three factors, I would have missed the flight and put on standby.

    As Mr. Elliott mentions above, printing out the boarding pass online does help a lot. I can’t tell you how many times it saved me from missing the flight.

  • Ruth

    American airlines is not worth spending the money. We had to wait overnight at airport because one of their pilots supposed to fly the airplane had worked for more than the allowed time limit and had to take rest. They are equally bad about how they schedule their pilots even.

  • Kimberly

    I had a problem once. We arrived a good 2 hours ahead of time to fly from San Francisco to San Antonio. The line was NOT budging. After about an hour I got really nervous about my son and I missing our flight. I observed a clerk at the “elite flyer” window take in “maybe” three customers during this timeframe. It seem totally stupid. There were not ANY other elite members in line…she was just standing there. I left my son in line and went to her window. She chastised that I was not an “elite member” (or whatever they called it)…I told her that my flight leaves in about an hour…the other line wasn’t moving so therefore I just promoted myself.

    Turned out they were having so much trouble because they were delaying flights due to a storm up north. Planes couldn’t get up there or down. HORRIBLE mismanagement all over.

    Alas…I got served…got my new flight schedule…Afterwards I suggested she start calling for people who have flights scheduled in the next few minutes. If a “elite member” comes up apologize to the next customer in line and help them. I can’t believe I had to suggest that.

  • Jerry

    “… it is not always possible to forecast the number of customers who will need assistance…”

    For every person that travels they know…
    …when you checked in.
    …what you checked in.
    …when you hit the security check point.
    …whether or not you boarded your plane.

    Given the volume of air travel. They could utilize that information alone for a statistical analysis that would give a rather accurate ‘forecast’.

    Then they could do the same analysis flight times, weather delays, etc. And refine the ‘forecast’ even more.

    Then there is their own employees, times in/out. Unplanned time off, unplanned equipment failures, etc. And refine the ‘forecast’ even further.

    Oh wait, they have done all of that (and more), have the proper forecasts, yet still choose to staff below acceptable levels.

  • DeeDee

    A voucher? They sent her a voucher! That is not a refund. It only forces her to fly on American in the future. And unless she’s flying internationally again, that’s either a few trips or none at all. We’re not talking about a $200 ticket here. That’s not right. She deserved a refund, not the opportunity to experience their horrible customer service all over again.

  • noella

    American Airlines is a lowlife slum airline. They charged me $20 for calling a toll free customer service number. Nothing on the prompts said I would charged and neither did the CSR. Disgusting I will never ever fly their airline again. Spread the word, anyone but them!

  • http://www.clarkecomputer.com Charles Clarke

    Obviously there is a dichotomy between the expert flyers who know all the tricks and the ones who have to deal with TSA and the airlines changing the rules a few times since the last time they’ve flown. The expert flyers can take care of themself. Unfortunately the airlines cater to them and don’t make the rules obvious to the non-expert flyers. Which is unfortunate because they could save everyone lots of time if they informed and served those better.

    If you are an expert, please remember that the non-experts on here are doing their part by trying to learn the best ways to travel. Snotty remarks or name calling will only increase the odds that your comments are not listened to or viewed negatively. Also, for non-experts, saving an hour or two at the airport is only saving 2-8 hours per year for them and isn’t worth the cost of missing a flight. If you fly 100 flights a year, then if you figure out a way to save 5 minutes each flight, you’ve already saved more time per year than they possibly could. In fact, with your elite status allowing you to use the short quick lines, you probably save 1-2 hours each flight over a non-elite flyer. Don’t mock someone for allowing for the different times required because of the lack of status. Remember that they don’t get change fees waived either.

    @David Z – If they recommend 2 hours before a flight, then a maximum of 45 minutes in a check-in line and a maximum of 45 minutes in TSA lines would be a good requirement. The other two 15 minute chunks is the rest of the walking time.

    Not sure what to do against TSA if TSA exceeds this, but allowing passengers on the next flight with space for no change fee would get the airlines to put pressure on TSA. If the airline’s lines exceed this and someone misses their flight, give them the involuntary denied boarding compensation along with the next flight, on any airline, with space.

    @ Lyngengr – This is a great example of expert vs. non-expert. You get one non-expert doing something wrong and the other non-experts will follow their example and hold up the whole line. Better signage through the whole line would help. If we’re waiting, then we’re probably bored enough to read the contract of carriage if they put it on a sign in front of us. Put tips on how to make it easier/faster for the agent to serve you.

    @Kimberly – Agreed, some common sense would be nice. Taking one person at a time from the front of the peon queue wouldn’t unduly delay the elites.

    Something I’m not sure how I feel about is the prioritizing of the folks who don’t have much time before their flight. While I have sympathy, since once I missed my flight due to car trouble and then a 2 hour check-in line, it could also be rewarding those who didn’t plan ahead.