American Airlines charges sailor a fee for flight change

I‘m hoping you can help my son with a situation,” Brad Lessem wrote to me a few days ago.

His son had just finished Navy basic training and had enough leave time to fly home during the holidays. But as a newly-minted Seaman Apprentice, he didn’t quite understand the ways of the military, and he miscalculated the actual amount of leave time. Now American Airlines wanted to charge a hefty change fee to get him back to his Navy base — a fee he couldn’t afford.

In order to fix the ticket, Lessem’s son was asking the airline to push his flight time back by a day.

“He was told there was a $140 additional charge to change his ticket date, even though he changed it more than a month before travel,” said his father. “it seems a shame that American Airlines would take advantage of our servicemen in such a way, and not give him a break. As an E-2 in the Navy, he certainly isn’t earning enough money to throw away an extra $140. Is there anything you can do to help?”

Members of the armed services fall under a special category of passenger. I didn’t put them there; the airlines did. For example, American waives certain baggage fees for soldiers, as do other carriers. They also loosen some of their rules, particularly for servicemembers traveling with a change in orders.

The other thing that Lessem’s son had going for him was that it was the holidays, and that he’d just finished boot came. I know exactly what that’s like, because I remember picking Kari up from the airport after she finished Navy boot camp in Great Lakes, Ill., back in the 90s. Let’s just say I have personal reason for going out of my way to help someone who has just survived that place.

I contacted American on Lessem’s behalf. He also reached out to American Airlines through its Facebook page.

American offered a $140 voucher.

That’s not quite the refund he was hoping for, but it is better than nothing.

“Would you say this is an acceptable compromise?” Lessem asks.

Good question.

American Airlines is under no obligation to waive his son’s change fees, so technically this isn’t a bad offer. Could it have done better? Sure. But from the airline’s perspective, these change fees are a huge revenue generator. Just have a look at its conditions of carriage and you’ll see that it isn’t just the change fees, but the ability to sell an optional “your choice” package that reduces the change fees you would pay, that is making AA money.

Whether this is the right way to earn revenues or a wrong way is a discussion for another time. But I’ll give American credit for responding to this sailor’s request. Other equally deserving passengers have received little more than form rejections, unfortunately.

  • Anonymous

    Just an aside, but American Airlines has been trying to market themselves as an organization committed to getting our military personnel home as recently as 2010:


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo9y37zc-_I

    I even remember as far back to an American Airlines commercial from years ago where a soldier on base calls from a pay phone to make a reservation with an AA CSR, then gets over a dozen of his buddies tack on to the same call - making reservations to get home.  In the end, the call is over, the CSR’s supervisor comes up and asks her how many call’s she’s taken so far.  Her answer is “Just one.” as she hold up a single finger.

  • Anonymous

    As an USAF (ret.) wife, Navy brat, and mother of a Navy-bound son, I can certainly empathize with this situation.  But, just because someone serves in the military, is young and broke  doesn’t mean the rules don’t apply to them.  If a young Peace Corps volunteer, teacher, police-recruit, or new fireman had the same situation occur, would Chris be sent the same letter?  Do not those that serve in other capacities deserve the same leeway?  Where does AA draw the line?  I put a few bucks in the red kettle this afternoon–should they cut me a break, too?

  • Shannon Rich

    As an Army wife, Marine Mom, and Army mom, I can sympathize with the frustrations of trying to figure out leave time.  However, I have also been at the mercy of the military changing ordesr at the last moment, canceling leave, etc.  The young man made an error, and, like the rest of us, will have to pay for it.  If he was under orders, and those orders changed, the airlines would not charge him a change fee.  However, it was personal leave, therefore his reservation was made as a civilian, and he pays the civilian price for making an error. 

  • Anonymous

    What if changing those flights cost a civilian $290? ($140 fare difference and $150 change fee) If AA waived the change fee and gave the OP’s son the fare difference back in the form of a voucher show their compassion for our service men and women? Based on the facts presented, this is certainly a distinct possibility.

  • Rich

    My take is that the change fee is still $150 but that the re-calculation of the fare based on the new dates of travel but the fare $10 less than the cost of the original ticket.  AA allows one to apply any residual in that case to the cost of the change fee… hence the $140 cost to make the change

  • LTMG

    People who make mistakes need to bail themselves out.  That’s one excellent way to learn and retain the learning for a long time.  Young adults tend to not become capable adults if daddy and AA sweep up after their messes.  As a former JAG, I’m sure you have witnessed recidivism in its various forms, which, in part, occurs when adults don’t learn.

  • Sensible Human

    Apparently the earlier flight was worth (at least) $50 to you. Yet you wanted it for free and call American the bad guys because you didn’t buy a ticket for when you needed to fly in the first place.
    What gives?

  • Anonymous

    If he is old enough to be in the military, he is old enough to 1) read the leave calculation policy and 2) ask a unit clerk how much leave time he has accumulated.  He was simply too lazy to find out. I hope this will motivate him (and his father) to grow up and be responsible. I too was in the military and, after basic training, I made sure to find out about how much leave I had.  AA is not supposed to be a nanny service.

  • ChrisY

    You missed the point.
     
    Reading further, you would have read:

    “You then write, in effect, that they get these privileges, so
    therefore the airlines must extend them additional privileges as well. 
    It does not follow. ”

    It’s a non sequitur no matter how many patriotic heartstrings you pull.

  • Crispy

    My plan is to tell you to go f*** yourself, TravelTourismPlan

  • Robert N

    If we see

    “American Airlines charges janitor a fee for flight change”
    “American Airlines charges doctor a fee for flight change”
    “American Airlines charges minority a fee for flight change”
    “American Airlines charges everyone a fee for flight change”

     how would these be any different?

  • Michael K

    I’m afraid you missed the point.

    Chris Elliott does not use the world “privilege” even once in the article.  He does mention going out his way to help someone.  And he does mention that airlines have loosened some other rules for our soldiers (and links to an example where American got positive publicity, at least relative to a competitor, for doing so).

  • gromit82

    I wonder why several commenters are saying that the sailor won’t be able to use the voucher before it expires. How do they know when the voucher will expire? It’s not mentioned in the original post. And if the sailor was unhappy with the voucher expiration date, I would think that would have been mentioned in the original post.

  • ChrisY

     And my question back is…..so what?  If I like you for whatever reason, and loosen 9 rules for you because of that…would you feel entitled to have rule #10 loosened as well?  That’s the question here.  I’m not trying to be obtuse or split hairs.  All I’m saying is the fact that airlines bend X rules for soldiers doesn’t mean they should bend X+1 rules, and certainly not by getting a travel mediator involved.

  • Ann Lamoy

    And if they didn’t volunteer to do the job, we would have a draft. Do you know what enlisted people get paid? Barely minimum wage. Yeah, if you make a career out of the service, the pay rates go up as your service length goes up-along with your rank going up. At the highest enlisted rank-Sergeant Major in the Army (if you make it in 10 years0 your starting pay is $4635 a month-or $1158.75 per week. Before taxes-which you have to pay unless you are in a combat zone.

    And stop and think about it. Our Government doesn’t pay them a living wage. So if they did, where would the money come from? Our taxes, right? So where does the money come from when companies like AA waive baggage fees for military personnel? Not really us because other non-military personnel get the fee waived (I am assuming it is similar to other airlines where premium customers get perks). And does it cost anyone anything if they get to board first? No-unless you want to pay for the privilege.

    My point in all this tl;dr. Stop whining about the extra perks military personnel get and the next time you see someone in a uniform, thank them for their service to our country.

  • Ann Lamoy

    Since he is the one that made the error in calculating his leave time, he should thank his lucky stars he figured it out in time to change his flight before he was AWOL. I also think that AA went above what they needed to do in this instance since it was personal leave and it was an error on his part and not a case of his orders being changed or rescinded.

    I also have to wonder if the $140 charge was not a change fee but the difference in ticket price or some combination of ticket price and a bargain change fee. And yes, as an E2, he is only making $1645 a month-before taxes. And depending on where he is gets stationed, that may not necessarily be a lot of money. Granted, he won’t need to pay rent (or will get a BHA if he lives off base) but after taxes, he will bring home about $276 a week. Which has to pay everything but rent. Not a whole hell of a lot of money when you stop and think about all the regular bills you pay every month. Car payment, insurance, electric, phone, cable, food, gas, water/sewer, etc…

    It is going to be an expensive lesson to learn. But there are people on base that can help you with these things and he needs to learn to take advantage of this for the next time. And maybe the parents can help him cover the cost of the change.

  • Michael K

    Without media exposure, such as the CNN piece linked above in the article, then instead of X rules that airlines bend for our soldiers, then there could very well only be X-1 or X-3 such rules.
    Maybe that’s what you would prefer.

  • Pkipnis

    So far as I’m concerned, the Airlines receive huge advantages from our military spending. Just off the top of my head likely 30% of the cost of flying is covered by the taxpayer. So when or if a uniformed member of our military has a problem such as this one, or the one several weeks ago when returning troops had to fork over $1200 in excess baggage fees, the FAA needs to fine them X percentage as a liberty fee. Or better yet, make a big deal about all the free things they can do for our troopers coming home close to how we sent them over. An Admiral’s club???, no, Let the USO have use of the facility. When was the last time a ceo/cfo or C level executive put his axx in the line of fire for this country?

  • STEVE KOENIGSBERG

    Again, maybe I am not reading it correctly, but what gave me the idea was this: “In order to fix the ticket, Lessem’s son was asking the airline to push his flight time back by a day.” That sounded like he wanted an extra day at home – which, I don’t begrudge at all, but I don’t know that it is the airline’s responsibility to waive any associated charges.

  • Darla Sowders

    You’re not going to get your point across to people on the internet–most of whom have a gross misunderstanding of logic. But kudos for trying. :-)

  • http://www.pipdigital.com Nancy Dickinson

    Um, actually, you would be incorrect – as the daughter of a 22 year veteran (now deceased thanks to the nuclear testing in Nevada in the 50′s), as the wife of a 22 year veteran, as the mother of two combat vets, with our third son entering the military after he graduates High School this coming May, I really DO know what I’m talking about. (He’s already taken his first oath and has his job reserved)

    My father, having served in three wars, was home a great deal and could travel.  He and my mother, no matter where they were stationed, made it home at least twice a year to see their parents.  This is a guy who was in WWII, Korea and Vietnam.  

    Twice a year – no matter what. (Except for Korea – he could only come home the one time when my maternal grandfather died)  I am the youngest of 5 kids and my birth is the only one my dad made it home in time to see.  It just so happened he was on a rotation from Vietnam (in his second of three years spent there)

    My two sons, both having served, one as a combat engineer (now in the AZ Guard) and the other as an infantryman (now an Apache Helicopter pilot stationed in Korea), both were deployed in the initial part of the war (Attached to the 3rd ID – the fastest way home is thru Baghdad) and were in the sandbox for fourteen months total (Because Rumsfeld lied – they didn’t come home when they were supposed to) and my husband having served in the first Gulf War.  

    Oh, wait, I’m also a Veteran of the military – got the VA disability and the pretty little form on the wall to prove it.

    Huh, that’s FIVE military members in my family alone who would have no problem using this voucher.  Sorry, Amiga, but YOU are the one who doesn’t know what you’re talking about.  

    And that little brown card that gets renewed every four years tells me I’m not a civilian – never have been, never will be.  I joined right out of high school, met my husband at the end of my four years, married and then started following him around the country.

    So how about you wipe the smug off your face?  I’ve been at it a lot longer than you have and with every single one of my sons.  I spent a sum total of 14 months while MY kids were in the sandbox.  Yours went to Afghanistan?  Mine were in the invasion to Baghdad and every day of that 14 months I kept one eye out the window looking for that green car to come tell me one of them had died. (The additional months are due to my second son having already been in Afghanistan on another deployment and his unit being sent to attach to the 3rd ID for the invasion) 

    We DID get the call that one of them had been shot.  Worst weekend of my life and I never want to go through that again.  The anxiety didn’t end until he was allowed to call and all he could get out was, “I love you Mom, I’m still alive.  Tell Dad to record the Baltimore game for me.” before he fell asleep again.

    You’ve been a military mom for three months, I’ve been doing it since 2000.  You’re a military wife of a recently retired?  I’ve been doing it since 1984, when I met my husband.  You were never in the military?  I was – started in 1982, three weeks after my 18th birthday.  

  • Princess Polish

    American did more than enough after being harassed by this grown adults father and a consumer advocate.   Just like the rest of us, he made a mistake and there were consequences for that mistake.  He may be a member of the military, but he was NOT flying on orders, he was going on a vacation like any of the rest of us and while I appreciate what members of the military do for us (I have family in the military), this situation does not qualify him for any special treatment, except for a learning  event where he learns to pay better attention to what he is buying, and in a new environment double and triple check leave guidelines and availability.

  • DavidZ

    Another possibility is if the ticket’s fare rules indicate that any difference in fare, if the new one is lower than the old one, be applied to the change fee. So if:

    1. The OP originally paid $410 for his ticket.

    2. The new fare (as if buying a new ticket) with new dates is $400.

    $410 – $400 = $10 difference. Assume the usual $150 change fee, $150 – $10 diff = $140 total fees to change the ticket.

    I’ve seen that on many of AA’s fares in my past life, if not all of them. In contrast, US Airways’ fare rules (unless they changed recently) generally don’t credit any difference if the new fare is lower than the old one.

  • DavidZ

    “The question is what was the $140 charge for? It certainly is an odd number for a typical change fee. I suspect it is for a difference in fares. But I can’t tell for sure.”

    Already commented above, Tony, but here’s your answer:
    “IF THE REPRICE RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE/ THE   
                    DIFFFERENCE IN FARES MAY BE RETURNED                           IN THE FORM OF A NONREFUNDABLE                                 TRAVEL VOUCHER VALID FOR TRAVEL VIA AA ONLY.

  • DavidZ

    “The question is what was the $140 charge for? It certainly is an odd number for a typical change fee. I suspect it is for a difference in fares. But I can’t tell for sure.”

    Already commented above, Tony, but here’s your answer:
    “IF THE REPRICE RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE/ THE   
                    DIFFFERENCE IN FARES MAY BE RETURNED                           IN THE FORM OF A NONREFUNDABLE                                 TRAVEL VOUCHER VALID FOR TRAVEL VIA AA ONLY.

  • DavidZ

    Whoops, just saw the subsequent comments. I guess my explanation above wasn’t really necessary anymore. :)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H6PILMKHNNJGSWQMZBFDJYWBA4 Spaz Daffodil

    I’ve been thinking about this one and agree that the father seems like a complainer.  Sorry. To paraphrase what somebody else said, why should a sailor get a break on fees because of a mistake that the sailor made, but not somebody in the peace corps, a doctor, a teacher, etc.  Not that I’m blaming the sailor here, sounds like he has accepted responsibility for his actions.