Worried about Coronovirus

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GAT

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This ius correct from a medical perspective, but epidemics can extend beyond medical effects to economic and sociological effects. We see that here in the desire for some people to postpone or cancel travel. . I've witnessed some panic buying at local supermarkets.

I do not pretend to know what the likely effects of an epidemic would be. But I do think we need to remain calm; and if wearing a mask makes someone feel safer, or reminds them to use better hybeine, then maybe it is of vaule.
I have read that the masks commercially available to public consumers won't do much to protect you from inhaling the virus, but they might help prevent spreading it and other germs when you exhale. All this discussion goes to show there's a lot of confusing and potentially conflicting advice out there. All I can take from it is this, as JSN puts it: Act with prudence, not from panic. (Two more Elliott "P's"?)
 

Patina

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The latest from United:

United Airlines Holdings Inc. said it would cut domestic and international flying in April in response to the slump in travel demand caused by the spreading coronavirus.

Domestic capacity will be cut by 10% next month from its previous plan and international flying by 20%, Chief Executive Oscar Munoz and President Scott Kirby said in a message to staff. These cuts could extend into May.

The carrier is also parking some wide-body jets and offering staff members an unpaid leave of absence—in the latest effort by airlines to mitigate the impact of virus-related travel restrictions and passenger concerns over flying.
 
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mmb

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Neil, can you post the link? It might be very helpful. Thanks. I have heard you need to scrub for at least twenty seconds and get under the finger nails for the washing to be effective.
I heard yesterday on the radio that two minutes of washing is optimal for this time period, which includes under the fingernails extensively. Like a surgeon before he operates.
Previously, the norm was to sing Happy Birthday two times while washing. (The singing starts AFTER you wet and soap your hands.)
 
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I heard yesterday on the radio that two minutes of washing is optimal for this time period, which includes under the fingernails extensively.
Under the fingernails, yes. But who is saying the general public should be washing their hands for two full minutes? The CDC's COVID-19 prevention guidance recommends 20 seconds; the World Health Organization doesn't specify a particular length of time for COVID-19 prevention specifically, but recommends 20 seconds in general, too.

CDC website: "Know the facts about coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) and help stop the spread of rumors."
 

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NCL just followed Royal and Carnival offering similar options. Cancel up to 48 hours before and you can get a FCC good through the end of 2022. For sailings starting March 10.
 

mmb

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Under the fingernails, yes. But who is saying the general public should be washing their hands for two full minutes? The CDC's COVID-19 prevention guidance recommends 20 seconds; the World Health Organization doesn't specify a particular length of time for COVID-19 prevention specifically, but recommends 20 seconds in general, too.

CDC website: "Know the facts about coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) and help stop the spread of rumors."
They key word here is optimal.
Everyone is, of course, free to wash or not wash for any length of time.
Two minutes is optimal for getting at all germs.
 

Carrie Livingston

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Here's the letter from NCL...

March 6, 2020
Dear Valued Guests and Travel Partners,

To provide you with peace of mind, I want to take this opportunity to personally update you on what we are doing at Norwegian Cruise Line to help ensure you have a safe, healthy and happy vacation experience with your friends and family.

As you know, the safety and well-being of our guests and team members are our number one priority. We have a Chief Medical Officer on staff as well as dozens of medical professionals throughout our fleet, and we continue to consult with The World Health Organization (WHO) and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to make the best decisions possible and take appropriate action as needed. We are very proud of the protocols and preventative measures we have in place to deal with current concerns regarding COVID-19, and I firmly believe that we have some of the most robust measures in place to protect our guests and team members.

In addition to extensive cleaning and disinfection protocols on board all voyages and health screenings of passengers and crew members, we have been denying boarding to guests who have traveled from, visited or transited via high risk areas; and we have modified several sailings to avoid areas of concern. At the current time, our plans are to avoid any area that is denoted as a ‘Level 4 - do not travel’ area by the State Department at the time of voyage. We will modify any itinerary visiting those areas approximately 30 days prior to arrival date to avoid last minute changes. As always, we will continue to monitor all State Department advisories and take appropriate action as necessary. For all our policies and procedures, please visit www.ncl.com.

Additionally, I want to provide our guests and travel partners with reassurance, so I am very pleased to announce our new Peace of Mind policy. Simply put, for any voyage from March 10, 2020 through September 30, 2020, guests are free to cancel anytime up to 48 hours in advance of embarkation. Please note that this new policy applies to individual and group bookings only. Anyone choosing to cancel will receive a full refund in the form of a future cruise credit to be used for sailings that embark through December 31, 2022. This is by far the most consumer-friendly policy in the industry. We put our guests first!

On a more personal note, I want to share that I am travelling with my family and friends to Europe in late May aboard one of our fantastic ships. Cruising is a fun and safe means of travel, and I want to ensure that you know that we walk the talk. I hope you will join me in exploring the world in the safety and comfort of an amazing Norwegian Cruise Line ship with your friends and family.

Sincerely,

Harry Sommer
President & CEO Norwegian Cruise Line
 
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jsn55

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It's so gratifying to see these travel providers, who we trust with our money and well-being, stepping up to the plate to do the right thing. Thanks for posting this, Carrie.