I could not report it stolen as I was locked up. Plenty of guards around and no one wanted to do work.It is unclear anyone reported the car stolen. It may have been abandoned in the casino parking lot, and after a few days, someone ran the plates and called National to come pick up the car.
I left key inside car so it could be returned. I thought that was most responsible thing to ensure it would get returned. I knew there was possibility I would do a violation but not certain.Did you leave a key in the car or did you leave the key with your friend? Where was the car parked when you were arrested? I feel like there's more to the narrative, but maybe you're shortening it to make it easier to write. I think the answers, which the car rental place will also ask, will determine the outcome. If they suspect the friend used it and just didn't return it, then you'd out of luck. Hopefully you can set them straight. Once you rent a car, it's totally your responsibility to return it in the same shape you've received it. They don't really care what the reasons are unfortunately. Good luck.
I told national that if they didn’t have it, I didn’t have it and therefore it was stolen.It is unclear anyone reported the car stolen. It may have been abandoned in the casino parking lot, and after a few days, someone ran the plates and called National to come pick up the car.
An attorney will cost more than what the company is charging me. Isn’t there a sympathetic ear in corporate that can reverse charges or mitigate? The fact that I was charged for EVERYDAY it was STOLEN, is unnerving. Especially after I bought insurance to cover such an event should exposed."Next, I authorized someone else to return car. But they never did. So while they could have driven it back to company that never took place. "
That is a huge problem.Did your "friend" move it or use it? That isn't a stolen car as far as the insurance or car rental is concerned - you violated the terms of the agreement by giving an unauthorized person permission to use the car.
At this point, I think you need an attorney to handle this.
What I would have done differently: Return the car before I was incarcerated since I knew it was going to happen. Not leave the keys in the car as cars get stolen all the time in SF.I left key inside car so it could be returned. I thought that was most responsible thing to ensure it would get returned. I knew there was possibility I would do a violation but not certain.
•in fact if I don’t respond for 3 months it’s cause I’m doing ANOTHER one (Jan 22 beginning)
The car was not parked at casino, but in San Jose.
the rental company did not ask me any questions, they just wanted there car back, and got it.
what should I have done differently in this situation?
•what would you have done?
I did not know i was going to jail. it was just a possibility, so as a precaution I told my friend to return car. If I kept keys it would definitely not have been returned on time.What I would have done differently: Return the car before I was incarcerated since I knew it was going to happen. Not leave the keys in the car as cars get stolen all the time in SF.
The insurance I had was what national offers red me for an extra $15 a day.I can now understand the issue - you left the key in the car. Anyone could have taken it, including your friend. However, it doesn't seem they are charging you for theft - they are charging you for the time that the car was missing before it was recovered. The car was recovered and if there were any damages, the insurance should have covered that. This is exactly why you need an attorney - we can't guide you on the if's or why regarding your insurance. Have you called the insurance company yourself that you had the insurance with and asked them about this?
You really need an attorney - this is beyond anything we can help with except to give you our list of company contacts to appeal to.
While you may not be able to afford an attorney, an attorney can explain to you and help get this dropped if insurance should have covered it.
where would you put the keys? I didn’t want to give it to somebody else directly for two reasons, I may not need to as I may not have gone to jail and if I gave the keys to someone else then I am authorizing that person to drive vehicle which voids contract, next if I keep the keys then the company may claim I am holding onto the vehicle. Perhaps they could recover it where I parked it, but not the keys thereby I may get a similar credit charge or worse a theft case/charge. Now since it’s simple enough to find out I was not using the vehicle I will not be charged criminally, and that is why I’m here trying to resolve this business conflict.What I would have done differently: Return the car before I was incarcerated since I knew it was going to happen. Not leave the keys in the car as cars get stolen all the time in SF.
Parole violations are not breaking the penal code. It’s the most grey area in law. I don’t know when I’m committing a parole violation and neither would you. An example, a blanket rule is...no law inforcment badges, outfits, costumes, no surveillance equipment, no police scanners etc.Even though you purchased insurance, even for theft, your act of leaving the keys in the vehicle most likely voided that insurance. I am sorry you put yourself in a position where you were arrested for an outstanding warrant. I would look in your local area for legal aid, you may be able to get free legal help. Also look at law schools.
However, the car rental company was without the vehicle and could not rent it while it was not returned and not reported stolen. You may want to write a brief, polite, letter, one executive at a time, waiting a week in between each, asking for a reduced settlement. You may get further if you offer to pay something rather than asking them to write the entire balance off.
Asking what any of us would have done is counter productive, as my first response is to not have a parole violation. It also asks us to look back with a clear understanding of what should have happened, but not necessarily having a clear head while needing to make multiple decisions in a very short amount of time. I may have kept the keys with me and then used the first jail phone call to contact a responsible friend who could come pick up the keys, return the vehicle, and if they could not find the vehicle, call the rental agency and report it stolen.
This is correct. If the car was stolen, and theft was covered in the insurance, then the fact that the car was recovered does not negate the fact that the car was stolen - which is what they are charging him for, not for any damages to the car (apparently.)The OP needs to consult with an attorney. That is the only time person that can give him the proper advice in this situation and take action on behalf of the OP if the insurance should have helped.