Smoked out of my hotel room

Question: My wife and I checked into the Marriott Grand Flora in Rome on a reward stay. (I’m a Platinum Elite member of Marriott’s rewards program, which means I’ve stayed in its hotels more than 75 nights a year.)

One of the benefits is that my room type is guaranteed. My wife and I are both affected by cigarette smoke, and the ability to guarantee non-smoking rooms is welcome.

When we checked in, the front desk clerk waxed on about how we had received an upgraded room, but was in retrospect unclear about whether it was a non-smoking room.

The next day, we both felt sick; although there was no obvious smell of smoke, we looked around and finally noticed an ashtray tucked away on a table.

I immediately requested a room transfer. At first we were told the hotel was full. Eventually, after speaking with a manager, we were given a different room, but were told that we had to vacate our room as quickly as possible. Unfortunately, I did not pack everything.

After discovering the problem, I asked the hotel staff to let us back into our previous room. This request was refused, and repeated requests to the housekeeping staff to search the old room did not find anything left behind.

Several items of clothing (including a good portion of my socks and underwear) were left behind. Because we had been assigned to a smoking room in error, I asked the hotel to make good on the Room Benefits Guarantee for elite Marriott members. I was planning to use the money from the guarantee to purchase clothing so I wouldn’t have to do laundry in the bathroom sink on my vacation.

Marriott has refused to honor the guarantee, even though I escalated the complaint to the hotel manager and Marriott customer care back in the States. Is there anything you can do? — Matthew Gast, San Francisco

Answer: I feel for you. I just spent two days in a “non-smoking” room that happened to be next to a room occupied by a chain smoker. I smell like the Marlboro Man.

If Marriott guarantees a particular room type, and backs up that promise in its contract, I don’t understand why it’s stonewalling you. This is no way to treat a guest, let alone a frequent guest.

Part of the problem may be cultural. Europeans tend to be far more tolerant of cigarette smoke than Americans, so when you complained to the manager at the Grand Flora, I imagine one of the reactions was, “Come on, what’s a little smoke?”

But you have a right to a smoke-free room, and Marriott, as a hotel chain, has taken a pretty aggressive stand when it comes to smoking. According to its smoke-free policy it is committed to providing a smoke-free environment in the United States and Canada. Alas, Europe is exempt.

What I’m trying to understand is why they did this to you. You’ve concentrated your business with Marriott, earning a “platinum” designation as one of its best customers. They should have made extra-special sure that all of your needs were being met — not hesitated before giving you another room. And they should have helped you recover your lost items.

At the same time, I’m sure the hotel had its reasons for handling your case the way it did. If the property was full, then accommodating a special request that may have seemed frivolous to the staff probably didn’t rank high on their priority list, despite your protests.

If Marriott sent your case back to the Grand Flora’s manager for resolution, I think that may explain the lack of action. You see the hotel as failing to meet Marriott’s high customer-service standards. They probably see you as a whiny American who can’t handle a whiff of cigarette smoke.

If that’s the case, then you’re right, and they’re wrong. It comes down to this: You’re the customer — and not just any customer — and they made a promise.

I contacted Marriott on your behalf. A representative contacted you and offered a $100 check, in accordance with its elite benefits guarantee. That should buy you a few pairs of socks and underwear. In addition, Marriott’s corporate office sent you a $100 gift card by way of apology.

  • FL Traveler

    Fair resoluation although a bit late. But I agree with you – why did they act this way to what should be a highly valued customer?

  • Raven

    Marriott was in the wrong on this one. True, Europe is more “tolerant” of cancer sticks, but if they are catering to American tourists, they should understand that many Americans DO NOT want to be around smoke. This wasn’t a tiny boutique hotel; it’s an international chain. It’s unacceptable that they could not handle the simple request for a non-smoking room.

  • Steve

    Wow. It seems to me like this property should not qualify to be branded as Marriott. I can’t believe that they would treat a Platinum Elite member so shabbily. Not having the room type they were promised is one thing, but hustling them out of their room so quickly that they failed to pack everything, and then refusing to let them search for their belongings? That’s borderline criminal. What if instead of leaving behind some socks and underwear, they had left behind a piece of jewelry or some other valuable?

    Frankly, I don’t think Marriott’s compensation went far enough. If I were this guest, I’d be seriously thinking about taking my 75+ nights a year to another brand…and I’d mention that in a follow-up request for more compensation.

  • Chris in NC

    Marriott dropped the ball. Like FL Traveler said, fair resolution but late. Ultimately corporate took responsibility, but it took Chris (Elliott)’s intervention. Unfortunately, some companies won’t.

    On the subject of non-smoking rooms, my wife and I are very sensitive to cigarette smoke. It is amazing how many “non-smoking” rooms have residual cigarette smoke in them. We have to change rooms every now and then because of this.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    Is the Marriott Grand Flora a corporate owned property or is it operated\owned\etc. by a licensee\franchisee? Over the years, I have found that hotels (Marriott, Hilton, etc.) that are operated and/or owned by licensees\franchisees have treated me as an elite frequent guest member ‘differently’ than hotels that are corporate owned and operated. For example, I have been upgraded more frequently at corporate owned and operated Marriott brand properties…Marriott wants to reward me as a Platinum member; whereas, a licensee owned and operated property want to sell that room at a premium to a guest than to give me the room and the lose the premium.

    I was surprised with the initial response and response time from Marriott corporate. Over the past ten years, I had a few problems (less than 5) with stays at Marriott properties. Marriott corporate has been quick to respond to me (less than two weeks if not a week) and were more than fair with their resolutions.

    Chris Elliott made a very good point about that part of the problem may be cultural. Europe and Asia are more tolerant about smoking. If you and/or a person in your party is sensitive to cigarette smoke and you are traveling outside of the United States, it is my recommendation to write an e-mail to the General Manager of the hotel(s) that you are staying at. Before we went on our recent trip to China, I wrote an e-mail to the General Manager of each hotel that we were staying at stating that my wife is very sensitive to cigarette smoke to insure that we will receive a non-smoking room.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ Steve – “Not having the room type they were promised is one thing, but hustling them out of their room so quickly that they failed to pack everything, and then refusing to let them search for their belongings? That’s borderline criminal.”
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    If it was me, I would have taken out my camcorder or Blackberry and recorded the conversation and send it to corporate.

    @ Steve – “Frankly, I don’t think Marriott’s compensation went far enough. If I were this guest, I’d be seriously thinking about taking my 75+ nights a year to another brand…and I’d mention that in a follow-up request for more compensation.”
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    I agree.

  • Rose

    @Arizona Road warrior

    Is there any way of finding out beforehand which properties are corporate operated and which are run by franchisees? This can make a big difference in the car rental business and it makes sense that it affects hotel service as well.

  • Chris in NC

    @ Steve,
    “If I were this guest, I’d be seriously thinking about taking my 75+ nights a year to another brand…and I’d mention that in a follow-up request for more compensation.”

    I’m sure every competitor will match his status, but the grass isn’t necessarily greener on the other side of the fence. I’m not excusing what the property did, and if it were me, I’d still be upset about it. Before I’d make such a decision, I’d consider how the other 74+ nights went!

  • Mark K

    I have had better luck lately in Europe with smaller Bed & Breakfast type places in getting a non-smoking room. Many are totally non-smoking and the owners really make sure you understand that. On the other hand, most larger hotels in Europe seem to think that a non-smoking room is simply whatever room you end up in where no one is currently smoking.

    Since I am very sensitive to smoke, I always double check that the hotels I choose are non smoking, especially outside the US.

    I think the $200 compensation from Marriott is enough since it is the stated reimbursement owed to a Platinum level member when the expected room type is not available. Also, smoking preferences are NOT covered outside the US as indicated in the rules exceprt from the Marriott site pasted below:

    “5.The Room Type Guarantee covers bed type preferences at JW Marriott Hotels & Resorts, Marriott Hotels & Resorts, Renaissance Hotels, EDITION Hotels, and Autograph Collection. Smoking/non-smoking preferences will be honored only at participating hotels outside the Unites States and Canada. (Pillow, room location, extra bed, crib requests, etc. requests are not included in the Guarantee.) Note that exact bed sizes may vary at hotels outside the United States and Canada.”

  • Bill

    One of the reasons I stay at Marriott is they are supposed to understand the smoke thing, even in Europe. Unfortunately, Europeans don’t get it.

    I suppose they did compensate according to their rules, but it annoys me that guest services sends it back to the managment to handle.

    I do notice that my reservations do say smoke free guaranteed..so far I haven’t run into an issue, but I’ll certainly hold them to that guarantee.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ Rose – “Is there any way of finding out beforehand which properties are corporate operated and which are run by franchisees?”
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    You can call the hotel property and ask if it is a corporate property or a licensee property. However, you might get a front desk personnel that doesn’t know. What I do is to get the e-mail address for the general manager. When someone says name@marriott.com then I know that it is a corporate property and when someone says name@genhotels.com then I know that the property is non-corporate.

  • barbie45

    The OP should have received a non-smoking room period. However, I find it quite odd that despite their sensitivity to smoke they spent a night in the room without any problems. It was only when his wife noticed an ashtray than a problem occurred. Most non-smokers know the minute they walk into a smoking room . Also strange no complaint the whole night. Was he just trying to get some extra compensation. Amazing all those non -smoking people who travel by cruises or go to countries where smoking is the norm and never say boo.

  • Plat flyer

    It’s unfortunate Marriott acted as it did, esp for a 75+ night guest. And it’s unfortunate that customers often don’t follow a no-smoking policy, so that even if a hotel says a room is non-smoking there’s no guarantee someone didn’t smoke in it at some point.

    Request greater compensation from Marriott, it’s the least they can do since your vacation was negatively affected.

  • J

    @ Barbie

    They said they noticed the ashtray after feeling sick and looking around.

    Reading without comprehending is like not reading at all. Maybe go a little slower? Or let some of the air out up there?

  • DN

    Due to chronic allergies, my sense of smell has been severely diminished and I cannot immediately tell if there has been a smoker inside of a room. BUT, if I open the door to a hotel room and am greeted by an overpowering smell, I change rooms.

    Marriott may have a smoke-free policy but even in the US, it’s still not always guaranteed. For example, I had a reservation at a Marriott in San Antonio, TX in the last 12 months where I opened the room door and was overpowered by the smell of smoke. Upon inquiring at the front desk, the front desk person assured me that the smoke-free policy meant that it wasn’t a smoky room and that I must be mistaken… until the head of housekeeping overheard the conversation. She knew that room was smoky, it was on the log to be sanitized, but didn’t know why that room was being rented out. I was then given a non-smoky room at that point.

    However, with my poor sense of smell, sometimes it takes a little longer for me to notice smoke. For example, I stayed at a Doubletree Hotel a few weeks ago and thought I smelled smoke in the room… and it seemed to be more concentrated in the bathroom more than the room itself. I grabbed a passing-by hotel employee and asked him to smell the room – I don’t think he knew what I wanted – but he said it was good. I changed rooms anyway.

    IMO, Marriott should be ashamed of their conduct and should have immediately stood by their guarantee. However, I agree with “Chris in NC” to think hard about the other 74 experiences before switching brands; for me, this doesn’t seem like a “I’ve had it” moment.

  • Meredith Putvin

    I know full well what it is like to be Allergic to Cigarette Smoke. It is a medical Condition and by all rights the Hotel needs to be Cognizant of that fact!

  • Joe Farrell

    He left his clothes behind – he is an idiot. Yep – stuff happens – yep the hotel should have given him the ability to access the room to get his underwear – but – gee – what if it was already occupado? Then the cleaning staff had already gone through the room and cleaned it and prob tossed the clothing and did not want to admit it.

    Matthew- you need to know the rules before you try to enforce them. You have a problem with Marriott contact Hilton and ask them to status match and then start staying somewhere else- next time – don’t rush simply because the hotel tells you you need to jump now – lessons learned.

  • http://www.theparkhotels.com Cathy

    This is what’s the problem with Capitalist system….They think that giving $100/- can take care of all the problems you suffered from.

  • Carlo

    @ Cathy – that’s actually the legal system of about 50% of countries. The legal remedy for most problems is money. Injunctions and court orders for action are only to be used if money isn’t adequate. And frankly, I think the solution was a good one. More than adequate, actually. The initial $100 was a good resolution, I thought. The $100 gift card felt like a very nice bonus to me.

    There are no non-smoking cabins on cruises – or at least not on any of the cruises I’ve taken. I have not noticed a smell in any of my cabins…and I smell EVERYTHING. So it is quite possible to get rid of the smell – but you can’t get rid of all of the toxins. They linger on the walls and in the soft materials like bedding, carpeting, and draperies. I won’t stay in a room with an obvious smell, but I’m fortunate not to be SO sensitive that I can’t tolerate a room that doesn’t have an obvious smell. But I can certainly understand those who do. Attitudes toward smoking are changing in Europe, but does anyone remember the ’80s? They are at a point now where we were in the ’80s. A lot of people just don’t understand the significance. They will, eventually. But cultural change takes a lot of time. Until then, we need to have patience and try to get the point across.

    I can understand why the hotel might not have paid proper respect to the OP’s situation for the reasons Chris outlined in the article – if the hotel was full, it’s hard to find another room, and I’m sure they filled his room as soon as he vacated it. They probably just chalked him up as a whiny American. And admit it – we have a reputation, and comments like “if they cater to Americans, then they should do things the American way” don’t help. You wouldn’t say the same about a hotel that catered to Europeans here in the U.S., right? Well…they cater to Europeans so they should be free with smoking regulations, etc. No. Because lots of Americans stay there too. And people from other places – like Asia. They adopt the culture of the place where they ARE.

    My last point: the OP says he’s part of an elite frequent guest program that adds additional room guarantees, such as the guarantee of non-smoking room requests. So when you look online at a regular booking that says preferences are not guaranteed, this does not apply to the OP. It was guaranteed in his case and the hotel failed to deliver on that promise. I’m glad Marriott finally came around. I’m just sorry it took so much effort to make it happen.

  • Anonymous

    When I stayed in Hong Kong a few years back, the better hotels have whole smoking floors…I chose to stay on a non-smoking floor because of the obvious. Unfortunately, my neighbor chose to smoke in his room…A call down to the front desk solved that…I don’t know what they did, but I didn’t smell smoke for the rest of the week!
    I think it helps that when you check in, you read nametags and call the staff by their names…I learned theirs and they learned mine. They are more likely to be helpful if you show them some respect!