Is my cruise refund really sunk?

Question: I’m looking for help with what should be an easy refund. A few years ago we gave Princess Cruises a $200 deposit. The credit was valid for four years from the date of issue and the payment was made on a Capitol One credit card.

Seven months ago, my wife contacted Princess and asked for a refund. Princess claimed that the refund had to go back on the original credit card. But there was just one problem: We had canceled the Capitol One card.

Princess said the charge would bounce back and that it would issue a check within six to eight weeks. I’ve phoned Princess repeatedly and spoken with representatives and supervisors. Now the cruise line has reversed itself and wants me to go through Capitol One to get my money. I think Princess should pay me as promised. What do you think? — Steven Olson, Blaine, Minn.

Answer: Princess should refund your money the way you want it. And if you’d like your $200 as a check, money order, cash or even gold bullion, then why not?

All right, I’m kidding about the gold, and sending cash through the U.S. mail is a little risky. But my point is that Princess offers several options for paying for your cruise — why give you only one choice for a refund?

Generally speaking, travel companies don’t care about speedy refunds. Not as much as they do about taking your money quickly. As a matter of fact, they’d prefer the money to flow in just one direction: theirs. That’s why you hear about refunds taking six to eight weeks or two credit card billing cycles — that’s often longer than eight weeks — or, in extreme cases, more than a year. Travel companies are just slow to let go.

There are ways of encouraging a company to hurry things up. Rather than phoning Princess, I would have committed your refund request to writing. Here’s how to reach the company.

If you know the name of an executive, the naming convention for e-mail addresses is firstinitiallastname@princesscruises.com or just email passengerrelations@princesscruises.com.

Why e-mail instead of call? Because a call is easy to ignore. A customer service representative may — or may not — take action after you’re done talking. A customer service agent might decide to go on a coffee break, instead and “forget” you spoke. You may have to explain your situation to an agent a few weeks later. On the other hand, an e-mail must be acknowledged and can be forwarded to the company and tracked.

That’s not the only lesson learned for you. A lot of companies, not just Princess, have policies that they refund a purchase directly to the card that was used. So if you’re thinking of switching credit cards, you might want to consider how it could affect any pending refunds. Yours isn’t my first case of a refund gone wrong, and I’m certain it won’t be my last.

I would have also asked your travel agent to intervene on your behalf. Agents are paid a generous commission to book cruises, so they’re supposed to help you with issues like long overdue refunds.

I contacted Princess on your behalf. A spokeswoman told me your problem was “quite typical” of what happens when customers close their credit card accounts while still active with expected credits. “Their bank still has the money in a holding account and the return to Princess process may take up to a year,” she explained.

Princess sent you a check for $200 and is working with the bank to reverse the credit back to the cruise line.

  • Annette

    As someone who’s dealt with the merchant end of credit cards before I can tell you that we HAVE to process the refund back to the card that it was originally charged on. Even if you go into Walmart to return an item they’re going to put the refund back on the original card and not just hand it to you in cash. Why? Because the credit card companies and merchants are protecting themselves against fraud – so you that you can’t get a refund for something and then dispute the original charge and end up getting paid back twice.

    Now this case is a little different because the original charge was quite a while ago and the card used was cancelled, causing all sorts of added complications. But no, Princess should not in general have to process the refund in any way the customer wants – if you paid by credit card it goes back to the card. Aside from special circumstances like this why should people think that they’re exempt from standard policy?

  • Abhi

    Credit card purchase refund is not ATM or easy access to cash. I agree with Annette here as far as the standard practice goes regarding refunds. If a person paid for something using a credit card, it only makes sense to refund it on the credit card account. Credit card companies have different rules for cash withdrawals, checks and credit card purchases. It would be an easy access to circumvent the cash withdrawal fees and higher APRs to request a cash refund of a credit card purchase.

    Now the other scenario is whether the person has paid the credit card charge already (over one or a few billing cycles). If so, then a cash refund is due but there is hardly any way to confirm such a thing as seller doesn’t have access to that transaction. Generally credit cards do not issue cash/checks of such refunds on purchases. They would simply apply the refund credit to the future transactions. I believe the problem remains to be dealt on with some financial blog and not the travel blog. May be Chris can help up find one of those too :)

  • Carverf

    I disagree

    I think this is the proper venue given then generally recognized difficulties in getting refunds for travel purchased.

    The fact that a refund should be sent back to the original credit card doesn’t begin to justify not making a refund if the original card is not available. Cards get lost, stolen, cancelled, etc. all the time.

    If the original card is not available, there are always alternative arrangements, which should not include a useless credit.

  • http://www.GottaGoCruises.com Cindy Clifford

    Elliott,

    I agree… and disagree with your comments:

    “I would have also asked your travel agent to intervene on your behalf. Agents are paid a generous commission to book cruises, so they’re supposed to help you with issues like long overdue refunds.”

    Having someone in your corner, who deals with the cruise lines on a regular basis and knows how to get things done, is absolutely a benefit. And one more reason why passengers should work with an experienced travel agent rather than book and deal with the cruise line directly.

    However, it is absolutely not true that the cruise lines are paying a generous commission. That is a fallicy, and as someone as involved as you are in the travel business, I’d expect you to know better and not populate that myth.

    Most of the survivors in the greatly dwindling travel industry are still here because we love what we do. And most of us are only barely compensated, especially in relation to how hard we work for our clients.

    Wanna correct that generous commission line??

    Thanks.

    Cindy Clifford
    Gotta Go Cruises

  • Mal

    I work for a wholesale tour operator.

    When we need to issue a refund and the credit card account used for form of payment has been closed, we have the credit card company send the customer a check.

    It know it can be done because I had to do it for my sister in law.