Hey American Airlines, where’s my ticket refund?

Question: My grandfather recently passed away and I needed to travel to Austin, Texas, a few days later for his funeral. Because I was already scheduled to fly from Baltimore to Austin on American Airlines on Nov. 24 for Thanksgiving, I thought it would be easiest to just move my outbound flight up a few days to Nov. 19.

I had originally booked the flight through American’s website months ago, so I called their helpline on Nov. 17 and explained my situation. They were able to switch me to a flight on the 19th, but said I would need to pay a $150 change fee and the difference between the fare I originally paid and the current fare, which was $254.

I then inquired about bereavement fares, and the agent told me that they were completely sold out of “compassion fares” for that date, but that if I sent them a copy of my grandfather’s death certificate, they would refund the difference in cost. I’m currently a graduate student with very little extra money to spend, but my grandfather and I were close, so I decided to go ahead with the ticket change given the information about the refund.

I received a copy of the death certificate just before I returned to Maryland, and began the process of requesting a refund on the American Airlines website. The online system tells me that I am ineligible for a refund because I used my nonrefundable ticket.

I have emailed American through the form on their website and have received no response. I am very upset that this is happening after the death of a beloved family member — if I had known that it would be this difficult, I would have canceled my flight on American and instead booked a flight on an airline that would have been more sensitive to my situation. — Tracy Wilkinson, College Park, Md.

Answer: American Airlines should have refunded your ticket as promised after you showed it a death certificate, of course. Every time you have to contact the airline to ask about your fare, it’s a painful and completely unnecessary reminder of your loss.

Bereavement fares are an odd thing, which may be why American seems confused. Many airlines no longer have them, but ticket agents are sometimes empowered to offer a discount off the overpriced “walk-up” fare that business travelers typically pay to fly at a moment’s notice.

When there’s a death in the family, airlines may also waive cancellation or change fees. But there’s no hard-and-fast rule about it, so if you find a ticket agent who is willing to make an exception, be sure the rule is bent for you now — not later. (And if you’re promised a refund later, make sure you get it in writing.)

It appears there was no written record of a promised refund, which is why American was denying your refund. Plus, because of an unspecified problem with its systems, it wasn’t receiving the death certificate, despite numerous attempts on your part to send it.

American is under absolutely no obligation to give you a refund or discount, even when there’s a death in your family. But if a representative promised your money back, then you should get it.

I got in touch with American on your behalf. A representative contacted you and issued a refund to your credit card.

  • mikegun

    Find the person who figures out a way to get something done rather than tell you why it can’t be done.

  • TonyA_says

     The Religion Industry.

  • Michael__K

    SW & JB are generally “more sensitive” to all last minute travelers with their pricing.

    Fortunately I haven’t had much occasion to look into the policies of other airlines in this situation.  

    (I had a situation in the midst of a Continental itinerary a few years ago and they were very accommodating, but I had status with them at the time and I was also travelling for work so my employer would have reimbursed me regardless).

  • mikegun

    You’re right! It’s not there now! They must have read my post! :)

    I was checking another city and date at the time I had the window open. I winder if i checked the wrong date…if so, my apologies for giving a bad example!

  • TonyA_says

    Oops

  • TonyA_says

    @mikegun (my reply to you gets posted as a new one)
    For some reason that lady who slept at SFO for [I think] 3 days comes to mind. Didn’t she get money from a nearby church?

  • SooZeeQ

    They should have the fares, but with 100% proof of death.

    Too many would try to get away with it for the lower fare.

  • travelagentman

    Does anybody have the common sense to use a real live agent? They are your “advocate” and could get instant authorization to re-issue the ticket on the spot! Emergencies happen daily and it takes a good travel agent to help figure out the ins and outs of this industry. Did AA send or email a written authorization? I always get it in writing, because 6 months later they can still come after you for additional costs. YOU CANNOT BE YOUR OWN TRAVEL AGENT WHEN IT COMES TO PROBLEMS! By then it is too late. Make friends with your local travel agent, be prepared to spend $20.00 to $40.00 for a transaction, then be prepared to be wowed when the S hits the fan!

  • bodega3

    They did and people still scammed them.  What do you expect them to continue to do?  Being a business owner, I and have had people blatantly lie to me.  I get why the carriers have dropped this.

    I remember things people say.  A classmate of mine, who is a local Deputy Sheriff lied to our reunion committee, trying to get his money back because he couldn’t attend.  At the next reunion he forgot about his lie and made a comment to someone I was standing next to as to why he really missed the last one.  Hard to trust anyone anymore! 

  • bodega3

    Oh but travelagentman, it is online so how hard can it be (tongue in cheek).  Even her comment about canceling and going with another carrier showed how uniformed she was.  Using a TA is like having insurance.  We are there to back you.

  • Jasper Nijdam

    It should be good business for airlines to allow bereavement fares when a passenger can credibly show that he needs to go to a funeral. Generally, I’d say that the lowest possible price offered for that flight would be good. Customers would appreciate the service and come back to that airline. However, in reality, airlines try make things such a hassle that they loose customers over what is a very reasonable request: Compassion.

  • Linda Jordan

    Bereavement fares are not always the best fare.  It’s usually a 10% discount at best.  I’ve asked for them in the past directly with the airline and after the fare was quoted, have found better rates on other travel sites. Some airlines no longer offer bereavement fares. What is curious to me was that the airlines quota for bereavement fares was already filled.

  • MarkKelling

    But the 5% is off ANY fare you book, not just off full fare.  So if there are still discounted fares available on the route you ned to fly, you get a little something more than nothing.  The CO discount was larger.  I don’t remember the exact amount.

  • TonyA_says

    In other words, it’s the Travel Agent (TA) who does the calling to the airline to get waiver codes. Either pay the TA or do it yourself. Depends on how much people value their time.

    I thought it might be a good idea if travelagentman can elucidate when he charges $20 versus $40. Maybe it is educational for customers what to expect for $20-$40. I have a feeling many don’t understand what they are paying for. Thanks.

  • TonyA_says

    CO was up to 20% depending on price of ticket.
    I’m not sure the telephone booking fee is waived by UA today.

  • TonyA_says

    The desk agent is already currently overworked. Do you want them to become death certificate verifiers? Can you propose a credible and reliable way so the system cannot be gamed by unscrupulous passengers? Compassion goes both ways.

  • ClareClare

    “The agent showed compassion but couldn’t override the main system and while it took longer than it should have to get the refund, everything worked out well in the end.”

    Point taken, EXCEPT that it’s obvious the airline refunded the money, as the compassionate agent had promised, only because Chris contacted them.  Thank your lucky stars, OP, that you knew about Chris! because otherwise you’d clearly still be waiting! 

  • TonyA_says

    This is probably a misquote. For most airlines that still offer bereavement fares, the seats have to booked at a particular booking class (or classes). If seats in those class(es) are not available, then you can’t get bereavement fares.

    That does not mean however that there can’t be published fares that are cheaper than bereavement fares.

  • Raven_Altosk

    Your guess is incorrect. If she was promised a refund–no matter what her financial situation is–she should be given one.

    I still maintain that the added bit about being a student is irrevelent to the situation at hand.

  • Raven_Altosk

    I pick the letters apart because I spent 3 years in college (late 90s) answering customer complaint letters/emails about hotels. I can tell you every ploy people tried and how they failed.

    The best letters were short, stated the facts, did not try to pull at heart strings, asked for a reasonable compensation and gave contact info (yes, people would write and then never give us a way to contact them?!!!) 

    Yes, it is drama. Telling me that you’re a senior on a fixed income/newlyweds with no money/parents with a ‘special needs’ child/a student/other group will not affect how the case should be handled.

    I empathize with her loss, as I would with anyone who has lost a loved one, but her status as a student has nothing to do with this case.

  • Raven_Altosk

    I don’t think someone’s financial situation should be considered when a refund is due them. If the OP is dirty poor or filthy rich should mean nothing–the airline promised her a refund, and it should’ve delivered.

    Period.

  • TonyA_says

    The agent said and did the right thing – AA policy allowed refunds of change fee (in case of death of immediate relative) for non-refundable tickets.

    The problem is with AA’s online refund and claim system. They dropped the ball. If AA customers need an ombudsman to collect what is due them, then AA has a big customer service problem. Not a compassion issue but a fairness and quality issue.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SYR4YYOAPY4X3UUYLPCADARF3Q emanon256

    I would love to have read some of those letters.  I reviewed similar letters for parking ticket appeals in college many years ago and the crazy stories people give just blew my mind.  I did find them very entertaining.
     
    One of my favorites was about how the ticketed person’s daughter’s building’s elevator broke while they were moving in, and they had to climb 9 stories and dropped the microwave down the stairs, and their clothing was too sweaty, and the daughter hurt her knee carrying the furniture.  Then they had to go buy a microwave so their daughter could eat, and there were no close parking spots and the garage was too expensive for them to afford and they were too sweaty to walk in the heat and her daughter knee still hurt, so they felt they should be able to park in a handicapped spot, and were very quick so it didn’t prevent someone else from using it, and they ask that we over turn the ticket giving their extenuating circumstances.
     
    Bottom-line: they illegally used a handicapped spot.  Appeal denied. Yeah, their situation may have sucked, but why spend so much time trying to explain how horrible their situation was.  And how much of it was true anyway, how can they prove no one needed the spot while they were shopping?
     
    Yeah, in this case the OP should be refunded, but why say they are a poor college student?  Leave only pertinent business in the request, anything else is distracting from the situation at hand.

  • DavidYoung2

    Wow — seems like there’s a lot of animosity or jealousy because this person is a grad student.  The ‘why not me too’ seems so petty.  Jeez, some guy got a refund because his grandfather died — good for him.  Anybody who’s jealous because he’ll soon have and advanced degree — go put in the time and work and get your MBA or PhD. 

  • TonyA_says

    Anyone trying to find cheap one-way fares for BWI-AUS for tomorrow 10MAR is gonna go nuts. That $500 is actually cheap.

  • bodega3

    I find it very interesting that the only consideration people think about for bereavement fares is the price.  There is another benefit that is very important and that is that fare also allows the passenger to change the return for no fee or add collect provided the same class of service is available on the new flight and date.  That is very helpful for those who don’t know what arrangement can be made to know when they may be able to return home.   

  • TonyA_says

    That’s true. But people who really need a bereavement fare don’t really know what that fare is without calling the airline – making it rather opaque – adding to the confusion and uncertainty. That’s why they are primarily concerned with knowing how much it costs.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/JWIDK73REHGADBHYLCUC3FBV7Y Bob

     The Religion Industry is just full of sh!t though – even more than airlines :)

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/JWIDK73REHGADBHYLCUC3FBV7Y Bob

     The Religion Industry is just full of sh!t though – even more than airlines :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=616518247 Crissy Maier

    since the reason they offer higher last minute fares is geared towards business travelers then yes they should be offering bereavement or compassion fares.  Or in cases like this they should wave their change fees.  

    Of course they don’t actually have to do anything, which seems all too easy for them.

  • http://profiles.google.com/bmgraham Barry Graham

    I did not think that AA offered them any more.  I find it odd that AA would be so unresponsive, usually they are pretty good at replying.  Since they did offer the bereavement fare, I am surprised that the agent didn’t just take the customer’s word and apply the discount.  It’s interesting how business that trust customers this way seem to thrive, and those that don’t go bankrupt.

  • AgentSteve

    To me, this issue is not as clear cut, as one might think.  As someone mentioned earlier, where does the “entitlement” mindset end?  Buying black clothing: discount!  Hotel expenses: discount!  Taxi fares: discount! Etc., etc., etc..  In response to this incident, it would be generous if an airline waived the “change fee” (as understood and effected, by Chris’ involvement).  Regardless of the circumstances, the airlines are in business to make money and the “change fee” is nothing more than brazen highway robbery!  Please tell me why it cost $150 to change a misspelling of a name, substitute one passenger for another, or to just simply change a date (given that all factors are equal; i.e. weekday/weekend, etc).  Like so many of the issues we read/talk about, it often comes back to one simple thing: Get It In Writing!!!

  • AgentSteve

    To me, this issue is not as clear cut, as one might think.  As someone mentioned earlier, where does the “entitlement” mindset end?  Buying black clothing: discount!  Hotel expenses: discount!  Taxi fares: discount! Etc., etc., etc..  In response to this incident, it would be generous if an airline waived the “change fee” (as understood and effected, by Chris’ involvement).  Regardless of the circumstances, the airlines are in business to make money and the “change fee” is nothing more than brazen highway robbery!  Please tell me why it cost $150 to change a misspelling of a name, substitute one passenger for another, or to just simply change a date (given that all factors are equal; i.e. weekday/weekend, etc).  Like so many of the issues we read/talk about, it often comes back to one simple thing: Get It In Writing!!!

  • Slanchenka

    i also didnt get a refund from american airlines even they sad i will get then in 10 days. i had a tickets from warsaw to new yourk and back and had to fly in november 2011….but then there was an acsident landing in warsaw by airplane of company LOT. thats why they closed the airpost for 2 days. but american irlines sad that they could change my tickets for othere ones in 5 days and thay i have to stay at warsaw and wait there 5 days without any accomodation and money (i came to warsaw from russia!!!) and i sad i want to get money back and they sad ok u will ghet them in 10 days. so i got a new tickets of othere company (payed more) and flew. and now, a write theme few times, i camed to there office few times , but i never got my money back! if someone can help me, write me please on