TSA’s liquid rules: So long, 3-1-1?

The Transportation Security Administration’s unpopular restrictions on liquids, gels and aerosols in carry-on luggage — better known as the 3-1-1 rule — are history.

Passengers say the TSA has all but stopped screening their baggage for liquids. They say transportation security officers no longer ask them to remove lotions, shampoos and even water bottles from their luggage, and overlook all manner of liquids packed in their carry-ons during screening.

“I was never asked about the liquids in my bag or asked to remove them,” says Doris Casamento, a retiree from Naples, Fla., who recently flew from Miami to Rome. “My husband had a bottle of water from the hotel he forgot was in his carry-on and it was never confiscated. The water was in a shallow shoulder-bag bulging practically in plain sight.”

The TSA initially banned liquids and gels from carry-on bags in 2006 when British authorities reportedly thwarted a plot to blow up planes bound for the United States with liquid explosives. The rule was later revised to allow small quantities of liquids in carry-ons.

The agency in 2008 promised it would ease its restrictions within a year by removing size limits on liquids carried onboard. But liquids still would have to be placed in a separate bin, according to the agency. The 3-1-1 rule isn’t scheduled to be lifted until the end of this year, when X-Ray machines at security checkpoints will have upgraded software proven to detect threat liquids in any configuration.

But a TSA spokeswoman insisted the 3-1-1 rule is still in effect. “The policy continues to be enforced,” says the TSA’s Lauren Gaches. “Although it is important to note that we empower our workforce with discretion.”

However, extensive interviews with air travelers suggest that the policy is largely unenforced.

Among their observations:

The policy was apparently loosened in 2009. Numerous travelers say the TSA started looking the other way last year. “I leave my liquids in my bag about one-third of the time, mostly because I’m brain dead after teaching two or three full days, and forget,” says Gary Zeune, who offers seminars on white-collar crime. “The last time TSA told me to remove the liquids and rescreen the bag was maybe a year ago.”

It’s happening across the board. With only one or two exceptions, travelers report the lack of a liquid rule at airports across the country. “Twice lately I have gone through security and in a rush forgot to take out my little baggie of liquids,” says Dody Viola, a social worker in Ann Arbor, Mich. “I didn’t realize this until I was on board the plane. I’m not trying to test the system — I just honestly forgot.”

No liquids are suspect. Incredibly, no liquids of any kind are apparently scrutinized by the TSA, according to air travelers. “I have small bottle of hand sanitizer and contact solution in my soft-sided briefcase,” says Robert Muncy, a network engineer in Cincinnati. “Never once have they said anything.”

If the 3-1-1 rule has indeed been scrapped, it would mean the TSA has taken a lead in removing the liquid-and-gel restrictions. The European Union last month set an April 29, 2013 deadline for lifting its liquid rules. By that date, the current restrictions on the carriage of liquids in cabin baggage will end, according to a statement issued by Siim Kallas, the EU commission vice president in charge of transport. “For passengers, the aim is also to simplify wherever possible the necessary security controls,” he added.

Of course, the Mexicans are a step ahead of all of us when it comes to liberating carry-on liquids. Consider this sign spotted a few days ago at the Puerto Vallarta airport. That’s right, carry your latte right through the checkpoint and take it home to the States with you. “If it’s safe for me to clear security and then fly from Puerto Vallarta to San Francisco with a liquid-filled Venti-sized container that is about seven times the size of the largest allowable toiletry, then why is it not OK for me to do the same from San Francisco to Chicago?” wonders Tony D’Astolfo, who authored the post.

I hear that. I’ve never understood why the TSA had a liquid-and-gel rule, which I’ve openly questioned in previous columns. In response to my claim that liquids were harmless, my friends at the TSA posted a “mythbusting” rebuttal that required its own mythbusting.

Isn’t it time for the TSA come clean about liquids? If there’s any evidence that my tube of Crest is dangerous, or even just a single documented case in which liquids could have brought down a plane in America, then I think we’ll all quietly empty our toothpaste, hair gel and contact lens solution into one quart-sized, clear plastic, zip-top bag.

Otherwise, the TSA should make it official and let our liquids fly.

(Photo: steuben/Flickr Creative Commons)

  • john

    This is not the case in Phoenix. Last week the TSA took a 5 oz tube of make up remover from my wifes bag. I always wonedered if this stuff is so hazardous, why do they put it in a trash can next to the metal detector.

  • Mindy

    Apparently MCO didn’t get the memo. As of May 1st they ate just as strict as ever. Same with IND, PHX… I’ll believe it when I see it.

  • phil

    Not so sure what the big deal is with taking the zip lock bag with your liquids out and placing it in a bin for screening. I have my carry-on and a small cloth bag with my essentials in it like ear phones, sandwich, book and my zip lock bag, takes a second to pull it out of the small bag place in it a bin and then a second to return it to the small bag after screening, big deal I think not.

  • Carl Pietrantonio

    Seattle (SEA) is still bad with the liquids. Not to mention how the TSA people are loud and abrasive with yelling at people about taking stuff out of their bags, etc. Rude and unprofessional people and some of them shamefully bad on “customer relations” type of attitude. Nope, I am not even going to try to take more than the baggie full of stuff until the rule is officially lifted and that the lifting has been publicized.

  • Sean

    The airports I’ve traveled, all still announce that liquids must come out of the carry-ons and must meet the the restrictions. I’ve seen bags get additional screening for leaving it in, as well as throwing away anything that is above the 3.4 oz limit. I definitely wouldn’t say that the ban has been lifted, but it sounds like it’s not being uniformly applied.

  • MarkieA

    @phil
    You’re missing the point; the big deal is that we have to have our liquids/gels in a plastic baggie in the first place.

  • Ian

    I fly about 4x/month. I stopped putting my liquids in a baggie well over a year ago. I’ve been stopped once and had them look through my bag.

    I’ve never gone through with anything above the limit, but there definitely has been a much more common sense approach.

  • Pat

    I don’t carry liquids in my carry on, so I can’t comment on that aspect. I did notice that the last time we flew nobody at Delta asked is we packed our own bags and it they’d been out of our sight.

  • Paul

    When we flew out of Syracuse NY in April there was a large bin under the screening table that was chock-full of confiscateds bottle of various size and content, right down to a quart sized bottle of maple syrup!

    So apparently the TSN people there never got the memo…. Obviously with the experience of other travellers the rules are still open to “subjective” enforcement. For all the time it takes to be pro-active why would anyone NOT think a bit when packing? Who needs the hassles of not following the guidelines? There are enough issues to worry about without wondering if they’ll bother to make you dispose of things you weren’t suppose to be carrying onboard. Easier to buy what you need when you get there….

  • Christine

    Over the past few years, I’ve flown through airports in NY/NJ, DC area, Vegas, San Francisco, Boston, Philly, Chicago, and Los Angeles (some of them repeatedly) as well as some smaller cities. I always adhere to the 3 oz limit and pack all the bottles into a clear plastic bag. However, I also always leave the baggie inside my luggage and I’ve never once been asked to take it out. Now that I’ve said this, I’ll probably have to the next time.

  • jayne52

    I went through security at FLL last week, and forgot to take my liquids out of my carry on.. TSA said nothing. The lady just behind us got her medium size toothpast taken away It was still in the box. Looks like TSA is not being consistant. Also I travel from Nassau frequently, and they are still as vigilant as ever.

  • Bianca

    SJC is just as strict as ever. OGG seems to have loosened its policy.

  • Debbie

    TSA in Atlanta obviously didn’t get the message either. I flew in from Jamaica yesterday and had to empty my water bottle to clear security on the way out of customs. I wasn’t even getting back on a flight.

  • http://www.scenebylaurie.com Scene by Laurie

    I wish this would become official soon. It makes carry-on a pain in the neck, not for having to take the liquid bag out of your luggage for screening but because then you’re liquid limited once you reach your destination.
    Lately, enforcement varies widely. I love this quote “Although it is important to note that we empower our workforce with discretion.”
    And it’s true about Mexico!

  • Aaron

    >Not so sure what the big deal is with taking the zip lock bag with your liquids out and placing it in a bin for screening.

    My problem is that if I have a two hour layover and want something to drink, I have to pay $2.50 for a bottle of water, which I can buy at the grocery store for 59 cents. 3-1-1 is an annuity for the airport food concessions.

  • Mark Leventhal

    Oh, I thought the rule was more for increasing business at the airport food concessions than for security anyway.
    TSA is really for window dressing anyway. After you travel through Tel Aviv you realize how simplistic the TSA system is anyway.

  • MVFlyer

    @Mark Leventhal said: “TSA is really for window dressing anyway.”

    You hit the nail on the head. The TSA was and is very reactive, rather than proactive–they need to give Americans the notion that they’re doing something, when in reality having liquids in your carry-on wouldn’t make a hill of beans difference.

    And, instead of buying a $2.50 bottle of water, carry an empty bottle and fill it behind security.

  • KF

    The TSA’s inconsistencies drive me nuts – I’ve been harassed over my Nalgene water bottle (which was empty) but have not had problems with my stainless travel mug. I’ve gotten yelled at for putting my baggie in the same bin as my laptop (and had TSA at one airport claim my case was not TSA compliant), yet had TSA throw someone else’s jacket and sweater on top of my laptop.

  • Thomas

    I flew out of EWN last week and they took a bottle of shampoo that was 3.1 oz.. Give me a break. I flex DBX to MCT on Monday and wasn’t even asked while carrying a litre bottle of water ???

  • Carlo

    Aaron, you can ask for tap water if you don’t want to pay for bottled. Chances are, they’ll give it to you for free because they can’t figure out how to deal with you.

  • http://www.ffocus.org Bruce InCharlotte

    I think you are giving the TSA too much credit. They are inconsistently enforcing the rules. Is this intentionally random enforcement og the rules? Or is it randomly slipping and missing stuff?

  • MrsKruse

    I had to laugh when flying out of DFW a few weeks ago. I carry a 7 oz bottle of a liquid prescription drug when flying. For the past two years, at every airport I’ve flown through, I get pulled aside for them to either wave a little paper wand over the top to test it for explosives or whatever it is that they are looking for, or to point a little gun thing at it to do the same thing. At DFW, my medicine was never checked…heck, or even acknowledged. While I was packing up my things on the other side of the conveyor, an older TSA lady stopped me and said “dear, your makeup remover bottle is too large, but since the screener didn’t catch it, I won’t confiscate it this time. Make sure not to bring it next time.” So, apparently at DFW, they aren’t worried about a bottle of medicine that’s over double the limit…but a 3.6 oz container of makeup remove could possibly be a hazard…but not really, since if the screener didn’t catch it, it’s all good :)

  • Anon

    This is not the case in Charlotte, or at least wasn’t in February, where I had my 4 oz. cans of Chef Boyardee confiscated. I hadn’t even considered the possibility that my precious spaghetti and meatballs contained “liquid.”

    (Yes, I admit that I lose a great deal of credibility by mentioning my sadness over, of all things, Chef Boyardee. But I was traveling to a developing nation where I wouldn’t have access to such food, and it’s astonishing how much comfort simple foods can be when you’re away from home.)

  • Fred

    I’ve had the same experience in Portland, Seattle, Houston, Austin, Newark, Hartford and Providence for the last year or so. I just keep my little shampoo bottle and toothpaste in a bag (not even a clear one) in my carry-on and nobody ever checks. I forgot to take my bag out one day last summer and realized nobody cared – and every since, I don’t bother taking it out anymore.

  • Carlo

    Medication has always been an exception to the 3-1-1 rule.

  • Kelly

    Dear Chris:

    I have a question related to the liquids rule. I am diabetic and wear an insulin pump, which sets off the metal detectors at the airport screening stations about 50% of the time. Sometimes, therefore, I take it off briefly and put in through the belt in one of those small bowls that are for keys and the like. But usually I don’t, as it seems risky in the larger airports with a lot of traffic. Most of the time I just warn the TSA screeners in case it goes off. I recently flew to Cedar Rapids, Iowa with my young daughter. On our way home, we were running a bit close for our flight. I told the TSA screeners about my pump, so that we could get through without a problem. The screener immediately said that not only would I have to be hand-wand checked (whether or not the pump itself set off the detector), but that my bags would also have to be hand-checked. They put me through all this, and also made me “pat down” my pump for possible explosives, then testing my hands for said explosives. I was a little upset, because we were running late, and my young daughter was somewhat scared and confused. I fly at least four times a year, have had the pump for many, many years, and have never heard about or encountered this rule. But the TSA people at the CR airport said it’s going to become “standard” because insulin-pump wearers have “unseen liquids” (insulin) in their pumps, and that’s a problem for security. One of the kinder screeners said I should plan to take it off and run it through the belt–and if I did, I would never have to go through this screening, because then the insulin could be viewed by the machines like all other liquids.

    My questions are: Is this really a new nationwide practice, and if so, doesn’t it discriminate against those of us with chronic illnesses (diabetics, but anyone else who has liquid-based medicines on his or her body that are critical to daily health)? Further, while it’s pretty safe to take off my pump in general, what if it were to be damaged [or stolen] while going through the belt? I literally cannot live without it, and it’s a $5000.00 piece of equipment (crazy expensive, I know).

  • Joe Farrell

    The one questions TSA has never answered is why did they wait until the liquid bomber plot in the UK to create the 3-1-1 rule? The threat [that Al Qaeda was trying to create a bomb on board from carry-on liquids] has existed since 1995 when Operation Bojinka was intercepted in the Phillipines -this was long before September 11th. The ONLY difference between the events in 1995 and those of the 2006 UK plot were that they were widely publicized. Thus, the TSA THEN reacted. What about the KNOWN threat since 1995? TSA and DHS never acted at all until there was press coverage of the risk.

    Were they worried about liquids on board or were they more concerned with how the press would report their reaction to the threat? I think the answer is clear since the liquids ‘threat’ has been known for 15 years now – and they only reacted after a press report. They are more concerned with how things look than true safety.

  • Barry Graham

    I traveled last week and the liquids rule was alive and well, unfortunately.

  • Mark K

    Went thru HOU IAH EWR and DEN in the past week. Every one is being very attentive about liquids. Just got back from an international trip thru DUB and LHR and neither cared much about the liquids (or shoes).

    The TSA person manning the xray in HOU stood up, pulled a large bottle of what looked like laundry detergent out of a bag and then yelled down the line at the rest of us “See this?!? Things like this are why this line is moving so slow. If you leave your liquids in your bag you are not flying anywhere today!!!” At which point I slowly backed away from that line and went through another one.

  • Ken

    My daughter said a bottle of apple juice (for her kids, ages 3 and 5) was taken away yesterday (5/30/2010) by security at LAX.

  • Kathy

    SAN still requires everyone to remove liquids. They even have a standard spiel ahead of time about removing not only the liquids from carry-ons, but also we must remove computers from cases (even TSA approved cases- making me wonder why I purchased one if nothing has changed)

  • Ken

    While the Puerto Vallarta airport has the sign, you cannot board the plane with any open liquid containters. I am not sure, but think the tax free takes the bottles to the gate. They have some system that works. But do not figure on taking on a bottle of water.

  • http://travelinggiraffe.blogspot.com Crissy

    I traveled this past week, when I got home I realized I had left sanitizing gel in my bag both ways, no one ever said anything about it. My sister’s mother-in-law was on a different flight and had liquids taken from her. They allowed my sister to take water for the baby’s formula, but not before being snide with her.

    Seems like they are a couple people enforcing it and the rest don’t care.

  • Aem

    I hope they do this for 4th of July weekend!

  • Jason

    I was flying yesterday out of LAS and I forgot about small water bottle I put in my backpack earlier in the day. TSA removed it at the security check point.

  • Eric

    Alas; not true for me either.

    I flew to Fort Worth 3 weeks ago with no issues, but on my return flight they made me throw out my toothpaste because it was 0.2 oz over the limit….. (sigh).

    I flew out of New Orleans yesterday and the lady in front of me was arguing with them because they were searching her bags after she left her liquids in her suitcase through the x-ray.

  • Erika

    I WISH the 3-1-1 rule was history. Alas, I’m with the others who say they’ve seen no relaxation from TSA. I travel about 50% of my time – all over the US – and they still ask me to remove my quart sized baggie and have it screened. Sadly, the last time they “caught” me with a water bottle that I’d forgotten in my carry on they missed a rather large knife that I’d used while camping a few days before.

  • pf~

    DFW is pretty easy on concealed liquids but ATL, PBI, MIA and ORD all which I fly at least 6 x year always fish it out. Most of the small TX airports AUS, SAT, HOU never bother you. I like flying in-state much better.

  • David McManus

    That’s not the experience I had flying out of Puerto Vallarta. Sure, you could bring the bottled water through security, but prior to boarding the plane, they will force you to dispose of it. That sucked because we had just bought coffees and 2 bottled waters. :( This was as of mid-May 2010.

  • Barry Borges

    I flew on two trips these past few weeks, once from Denver to Phoenix, and once from Boise to Denver. On both flights I had TSA take away my small container of toothpaste. They argued that the rule is 3.4 oz or 100 ml, and I tried to tell them that this was a volume restriction. My toothpaste was 4.6 oz by weight and was in a container less than 3.4 oz by volume. It was like pushing a rope uphill. They understand nothing about weights and measures. I gave up the toothpaste so I wouldn’t miss my plane since I felt that I would never win the argument, as the supervisors most likely don’t even understand the difference.

  • Diana

    I just returned from a trip to Ireland. We flew out of JFK and we were not required to separate our liquids. I had planned on taking my baggy of gels and liquids out, but completely forgot to. I was not stopped or searched. I had to take off my shoes though, which as always, was a pain in the neck!

    Flying out of Dublin, on the other hand, was a different story. Not only did we have to take out our liquids, we also had to take out our umbrellas for a hand check. My sister even had to open hers to prove there was nothing taped to the spines. Additionally, after passing through the metal detector, I was stopped for a random pat down. This I did not mind, as I knew it was part of security checks and was performed by a lovely Irish women who smiled and spoke with a tone of sincerity. They even checked the xray images thoroughly. One of my carry-ons was stuck behind the plastic screen because the officer observing the xray images was trying to figure out what was in the bag of the passenger behind me. There was no way I was reaching around the screen to retrieve my bag, but was relived that the bags were checked thoroughly. This is an example of how security should be handled if they want to be respected.

  • Tara

    I flew out of CMH to JFK recently and didn’t realize until after I got on the plane that I had forgotten to take my bag of liquids out of my carry-on. Not a word was said to me at the security checkpoint, but the TSA agent did take my shoes for “secondary” screening. They were crocs…why they needed additional screening, who knows? My netbook in it’s TSA approved sleeve went thru ok as well. However on my way back from JFK, there was an agent announcing to all of us in line to take our bag of liquids out and to take laptops & notebooks out of their cases. To be fair, the tag on my “TSA approved” sleeve when I purchased it did say on it that the TSA may still ask for the netbook to be removed before screening. On the bright side, my shoes didn’t get a secondary screening!

  • Curly

    Just wondering if there’s any update on the 3-1-1 issue. TSA’s website still says you have to do it. Also, this may be a silly question, but can I take liquor in my 3-1-1 bag?

  • RickK

    The 3-1-1 restrictions are still very much in effect. On the final leg of a very long journey, we were stripped two icepacks used to keep our food cooler healthy. Here was the rationale on the ice packs, a quote from the TSA robot: “they were fine when they were frozen, but now that they’ve melted, they’re considered a gel.”

    Watching my daughters take off their flipflops to be x-rayed, I could only conclude that the TSA has institutionalized exactly the irrational fear that the terrorists were trying to create.

  • kgirl

    I just got back from a 4 leg journey. The rules were very lax.

    SFO-Phoenix: left plastic bag (much larger than a quart) in carry on inside of another cosmetic bag. Was asked about it, but they didn’t care if I removed it from cosmetic bag or about the size. Just rescanned it.

    From Phoenix-to Mexico, Mexico to LAX, LAX to SFO never asked about it. Didn’t remove it from my bag and never had to rescan.

    I also had several liquids in my other purse, hand cream, contact lens, lip glosses without a bag.

    I just take a quarter worth of liquids that I wouldn’t want to lose and pack extra that I wouldn’t be too sad tossing if need be.

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  • No Baggy

    I can report that BWI and AUS do not check. That said, this am at LOVE in Dallas I was forced to check my bag for having the appropriate size and amount of liquids not contained within a plastic bag. And the bag prevents terrorism how exactly? There is no common sense in these people.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LZLAMI7HV4Z25JRRA3Q6EL44NM Kristina

    I am in the process of starting a snow globe collection. My brother went to New Orleans and at the air port during his departure he bought me a snowglobe. The stupid security confiscated it and threw it away. I think this is so ridiculous and it made me furious.