The travel industry moves to preempt customer complaints

When Jason Plott’s Western Caribbean cruise was delayed because of dense fog in Galveston, Tex., earlier this year, Carnival offered two possible resolutions before casting off: Either a full refund or an abridged cruise, which included an onboard credit and a discount off a future vacation.

Plott didn’t like either choice.

“It wasn’t enough,” says Plott, a director at a Lubbock, Tex., software firm. His family couldn’t return home early without incurring an airline change fee. And the shortened cruise skipped their favorite ports of call and the offer meant that they’d have to take another Carnival cruise — something they were reluctant to do.

Travelers are faced with decisions like Plott’s every day. Something goes wrong — a flight is delayed, a hotel room is flooded or a rental car breaks down — and they’re made an offer that they have to accept or reject on the spot.

Increasingly, those offers are being generated with the help of technology, either directly or indirectly. Carnival relied on external technologies such as its Twitter account to keep passengers updated, as well as internal systems to proactively deliver a set of identical offers to every passenger on Plott’s cruise before they boarded, according to Aly Bello, a company spokeswoman. “Most of the guests chose the option of sailing on the modified voyage,” she says.

Another new way in which technology is used to preemptively offer compensation is during an airline mechanical delay. Some carriers now e-mail apologies to customers before they land at their destination, hoping to avert a lengthy post-flight negotiation.

That happened to Candice Sabatini, whose American Airlines flight from New York to Paris was delayed because of a mechanical problem with her aircraft. The six-hour delay meant she would miss an important meeting in Paris.

“My plan was to write to American and ask for fair compensation,” she says. “They beat me to the punch and sent me an e-mail apologizing and saying that they’re giving me 5,000 bonus miles for my troubles.”

Like Plott, Sabatini wasn’t happy with the initial offer. Although American wasn’t contractually required to offer any more than it had, she felt that as a gold-level frequent flier, she was owed more.

An optimist might see these automated compensation offers as a genuine effort by companies to improve their customer service. After all, what could be better than touching down at your destination, firing up your iPhone and finding a letter of apology from your airline before you have to ask for anything? Or boarding a ship and finding that the cruise line had already tried to remedy your problem?

But a cynic might view this as just the latest in a long series of initiatives to streamline and automate functions that used to be handled by a real person, in an attempt to offer customers the least possible compensation when something goes wrong.

At a time like this, say experts, it’s more important than ever to evaluate the merits of your grievance and to appeal your case to the right person.

“You have to talk with a manager,” says Holly Schroth, a negotiating expert and senior lecturer at the University of California at Berkeley. “The first person you’re likely to talk to is charged with making you go away. They want to brush you off.”

People who deal with dispute resolution say that the sooner you talk with someone in authority — and preferably in person — the greater your chances of skipping the automated systems that can generate lowball offers. But they’re quick to add that a manager should only be called when the situation warrants it.

“A customer shouldn’t demand to see the supervisor or general manager every time there is a problem,” says Gary Poon, author of “The Corporate Counsel’s Guide to Mediation.” “Customers should exercise their own discretion over whether or not to go up the corporate ladder.”

That’s true, too. While travel companies are concerned with their reputations, they are understandably reluctant to give away the store. Poon recommends asking a series of questions before launching an appeal, including: How bad is the problem? Can I live with the amount being offered or do I need to demand more? How much trouble am I willing to go through in order to get the amount I think I deserve?

“What’s the best outcome you can reasonably hope for?” he asks.

For Sabatini, the problem was worth an appeal in writing. But a careful review of American Airlines’ contract of carriage — the legal agreement between her and the airline — suggested that it owed her nothing for the lengthy delay. She has put her appeal in writing and is awaiting the outcome.

Plott and his family reluctantly accepted the shortened Carnival cruise, but instead of appealing to the cruise line for extra compensation, he decided to dispute the charges on his card. The reason? Carnival didn’t refund his port charges for the missed stops, as it had promised.

“I’ll let American Express decide how much to pay them,” he says. “I don’t anticipate a full refund. I’m sure they’ll get something, but I was fed up with the runaround from customer service.”

(Photo: Andrew Canter/Flickr Creative Commons)

  • BillC

    He took the cruise and then disputed the charge. He is the typical greedy traveler. Nothing short of a full refund plus compensation plus a free cruise would have satisfied this fellow. I’m surprised that you would even print this. This is the type of person that makes a business treat real complaints as trivial.

    The outcome that I would like to see is this guy taken to court by the cruise line.

  • SirWired

    Both complaints rub me the wrong way…

    One person feels she’s “owed more” because she is a gold-level frequent flyer. I would think that being an elite-level flyer means they should have an incentive to offer you more on their own, but I don’t think it puts you in any position to demand more (there’s an important distinction there.) Also, what she planned to do once she arrived (the important meeting) is irrelevant; I’m sure many other people on the plane had equally important or interesting things to do once they arrived. I think 8,000 miles (~$80-ish) is not bad for a six-hour “mechanical.”

    The other felt reluctant to take another Carnival cruise even before he left, just because the ship couldn’t leave on-time due to weather (something totally outside Carnival’s control?) It appears that he wasn’t THAT reluctant, since he’s looking for a port charge refund (which implies he took the shortened cruise and Future Cruise Credit.) As far as the refund itself goes: he should examine his cruise folio carefully; port charge refunds usually appear as a cruise folio credit (which can be refunded via a check or credit card refund in the unlikely event you do not spend enough on board to “burn” it.)

  • Tom

    The harder you complain, the more free stuff you get. Write letters, demand to speak to managers, call in consumer advocates, threaten to send letters to regulatory agencies or the news media. All these tactics can help you get more freebies. Post on the Internet, start a blog, tell your Twitter followers and Facebook friends, sing a protest song on YouTube — it costs you nothing and may pay off like a lottery ticket. And there’s absolutely no downside. They may think you are a jerk, but they they will pay you to go away. Whiners win. People who “play by the rules” pay extra so complainers can be molified. Companies jack up rates knowing they will have to pay to silence critics. You might as well get your share. It’s the American Way.

  • MarkieA

    A side issue touched on here is the credit card dispute and the feeling that the credit card company is going to “take back” the money you paid. Depending upon the amount, I doubt very seriously that that is what happens in these cases. We all know how quickly companies take your money in a credit card transaction; literally seconds. At that point, they have your money. When you dispute a charge (and win), if it’s small enough – and I have no idea what that amount is – I’m sure that the credit card company does NOT go back to the service provider and ask for a return of the funds. They simply credit your account by that much. It’s the cost of doing business for the credit card company. But, it’s one of the big reasons why you’re charged 22% interest on these cards.

  • http://www.betterthanatravelguide.com Matt

    @MarkieA…

    Actually, when create a Credit Card dispute, and win, unless it’s a really small amount (like 10 bucks), they do take the money back from the vendor. Also, this is why I like AMEX so much. If you create a dispute, by default they take the customer’s side and put it upon the vendor to prove that the customer owes them that money. Whenever I’ve had an issue and raised it with AMEX, I have won each time (one was travel related, others were in other industries). They really do give you a lot of consumer protections to ensure that you don’t get screwed over (which is why some businesses refuse to take them, as well as because of their higher commission fees). If you use a VISA or MC, they put the onus on the consumer typically to prove that they don’t owe the money.

  • Richard Trilling

    @Chris & Sabatini

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    Hey wow, this is fantastic; if I was AA I’d love the pair of you. You guys are arguing contract of carriage, which you admit gives her nothing. That would be topic one in a class on how to negotiate from weakness.

    EU261 clearly applies, but we can’t use that because that would make AA mad.

    EU261 can be found here

    http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2004:046:0001:0007:EN:PDF

    The relevant paragraphs are paragraph 6. & article II c)

    This clearly applies to US airlines flying into Europe; but if you guys want to lose, by arguing contract of carriage be my guest.

  • Anne

    Fog is an act of God so it’s a contractual situation on Carnival as well. The cruise line doesn’t have to pay a nickel or make any accommodation.

  • http://www.asdfghjkl.org Allyl

    “And the shortened cruise skipped their favorite ports of call and the offer meant that they’d have to take another Carnival cruise…”
    No, you don’t have to take another cruise. You could just have the abridged cruise with onboard credit.
    In this case, what can you really do about the weather? Nothing. You should just be happy that they are giving you the option for a refund or onboard credit.
    Especially with cruises (it seems), a lot of travelers have this sense of entitlement when they demand that they should get whatever compensation they want. Unless it’s in writing at the time you pay for the ticket, you really shouldn’t be demanding compensation for things that just happen because of bad luck; they happen to everyone.

  • Zak

    @BillC – that’s not how I read it. Carnival said they would refund port charges, but they didn’t. He disputed the charges which is completely legit. It might be more effective for him to work through Carnival first, but he doesn’t have to.

  • Josh

    People are being a little harsh on the cruise passenger — it’s not like going to the store and finding they don’t have your favorite brand of cookies, so you can either buy the ones you don’t like as much or not, and the store doesn’t owe you anything. This is a cruise that he fully paid for in advance specifically based on the itinerary, and booked airline and hotels with the sole purpose of going on this cruise.

    The cruise line wasn’t offering to just cancel the whole trip; he would have been out not only the airfare to get there for no reason, but change fees on top of that to go back early. If they had offered to cover that (or at least hotel stays in Galveston until the scheduled return so he could salvage a different type of vacation), perhaps it would have been a real choice. If the airfare had been booked through the cruise line, I might have flown home, then disputed the entire charge (including full airfare), because it’s all part of one package with one purpose that no longer existed, but if booked separately the airline isn’t responsible for the cruise part.

    And I don’t think he expects a full refund; clearly he doesn’t owe a port charge for places the ship didn’t stop at.

  • Meredith

    I think the biggest point here is that Carnival can’t control the weather. Why should they be “obligated” to give him anything at all? Sometimes crappy things happen. You MIGHT be able to argue that better maintenance habits could have prevented the maintenance delay in the AA case, that’s a very different issue where AA might actually be culpable. But the weather…Carnival is in no way responsible for that, and IMO anything they want to give the pax is out of the kindness of their hearts. Obviously it’s good business practice and might help those customers to return, that’s why there is a 99.999% chance they will do SOMETHING for them. But they don’t HAVE to do anything.

  • alnut

    @Josh

    Unless he purchased a special package through the cruise line that included airfare along with his cruise, it is not the responsibility of the cruise line to provide for the customer’s travel expenses. It is unfortunate the customer could have been stuck with airline ticket change fees if he opted out of the cruise, however that is a part of travel (and what travel insurance might help with?). The cruise line is not responsible for ensuring customers make it to and from the port of call. They only provide the sailing part of the vacation. There is no way fairly compensate customers for travel expenses anyway. I can drive to Galveston in 2 hours, which costs about $20 in gas. If I choose to fly to Spain to take a cruise, it would cost me thousands. The port I choose to cruise from is my decision, and it would not be possible for the cruise line to reimburse some travelers a few dollars and others thousands based on where they flew in from if the cruise had to be delayed.

    I think the cruise line made a reasonable offer to its passengers, especially since the delay was not in their control.

  • John

    @Matt & @MarkieA … I’m a vendor. The truth is somewhere in the middle.

    If a chargeback is generated, we have to provide the credit card company with proof that you intended to make the charge for that amount (or signed up for something like autopay) and the terms & conditions of the purchase. The credit card company is then legally bound by terms of the purchase. If the credit card company finds that the cardholder’s claim is valid, all of the money (even pennies) is automatically deducted from the vendor’s deposit account and your internal rating is effected which may mean it will cost you more to accept the card in the future.

    In this case, all Carnival has to do is provide the cruise contract and how they refunded the money if he can show they actually made that offer.

  • Eric

    And this is why I will never set foot on a cruise ship.

  • Jennifer

    Mr. Plott is, IMHO, a bit naive and a lot greedy. What does he think Carnival can do about fog? Magically make it disappear? Should the ship have sailed anyway into the fog? Carnival proactively gave him two very good options. If he failed to purchase trip insurance, then he is out those out-of-pocket costs. Airlines are not responsible for weather issues (mechanical issues are another story) and neither should a cruise line.

    Then, Mr. Plott he disputes the charges for the entire cruise with his credit card company and thinks they should decide how much he should pay? He comes across as an incredibly entitled individual.

    As to the plane passenger, she could have used trip-in-vain and received a refund, but it appears she still went to Paris. What exactly does she think she is “owed?” She should never have scheduled a meeting so close to her arrival time. It may be unpopular, but as a frequent flier she should have known that if you absolutely must be there at a certain time, you arrive the day before.

  • David Z

    “What’s the best outcome you can reasonably hope for?”

    And realistically.