Cellphones and electronic devices on airplanes: Time to rethink the policy?

How do you know that the rules restricting electronics on planes are impractical? When you see a crew member openly texting at 36,000 feet.

That’s what Peter Zapalo says he saw on a recent Southwest Airlines flight from Philadelphia to Denver. On his way to the lavatory, Zapalo, an exercise physiologist from Philadelphia, spotted a crew member who appeared to be messaging on his BlackBerry.

“I was maybe two feet from him and you could see his text, a response, and his reply,” Zapalo said. “I’m sure passengers are sneaking around and doing this all the time, but c’mon — the flight attendant?”

Zapalo wrote to Southwest expressing his concern and received a form letter thanking him for his message, followed a few weeks later by an explanation that the attendant must have been using a handheld device to “update alcohol sales.”

The conflict between an always-on society and the rules on the use of in-flight electronics is hardly new. The Federal Communications Commission prohibits the use of cellphones while airborne. But passengers have refused to turn off their handsets on planes since there have been handsets. And with a rise in the number of wireless-enabled planes — the largest provider of airborne communications, Gogo Inflight, offers hotspots on more than 700 commercial aircraft — the problem appears to be taking off.

Asked about the texting flight attendant, a Southwest Airlines spokesman said that Zapalo hadn’t necessarily seen the employee break the law. “Generally speaking, it is completely feasible for someone to text or e-mail while their device is in airplane mode,” said Chris Mainz. “Therefore, they would not be transmitting any signals and still be within the guidelines of the FAA. The text or e-mail would not actually transmit until the phone is back on.”

Janet Spencer, co-author of the book “Betty in the Sky With a Suitcase!” (Riverbend Publishing, 2010), a flight attendant’s memoir, says the clashes between crew members and passengers happen constantly, for several reasons.

“First, more and more people are becoming more and more attached to their personal electronic devices and cellphones,” she told me. “It is almost a physical extension of some people, like an electronic limb they can’t be separated from.”

Another reason passengers are fighting over their PDAs is that they’re under more pressure than ever, she says. “Having to arrive so early, all the added security measures, the shoe removal, the liquid restrictions, and now full-body scans, have amped people up, irritating them every step of the way as they proceed on their trip,” she said.

She’s right. And I’m one of those strung-out air travelers, permanently tethered to my iPhone. On a recent flight from Dallas to Orlando, after the cabin doors closed, I couldn’t help myself: I had to check e-mail one last time. My 5-year-old son, who had obediently powered down his video game when the attendants asked, gave me the look. A few moments later, I got the same look from a flight attendant. I reluctantly switched the phone off.

Dan Poynter, a Santa Barbara, Calif., book publisher and a frequent flier, sees countless passengers like me, who fire up their handsets on a plane when they aren’t supposed to. He doesn’t think it’s a big deal. “To my knowledge, mobile phones have never interfered with navigation equipment on aircraft,” he says. “But rules are rules.”

Given the recent increase in disputes over electronic devices, and the likelihood that there will be even more in the years to come, what’s the solution? Some say that revising the rules is the sensible fix, to account for the fact that turning off a phone is no longer realistic.

But in the meantime, passengers like Victoria Weisfeld, a health policy consultant from Princeton, N.J., wonder what to do if a gadget addict like me sits next to them on a plane. “Do I go back to sleep?” she asked. “Mildly reprimand you? Wait for the flight attendant to appear? Or slap the thing out of your hand and ask questions later?”

As a perpetrator of this cellphone crime, my vote’s for “wait for the attendant.”

Maybe Brian Searl has a better idea. As the chief executive of a video production company in Cleveland, he’s encouraged his employees to go the other way when they board a plane. When someone is flying on business, company policy dictates that they not use an electronic device on a plane. At all.

“Mostly, this comes not as a result of airline policy but a desire to give our employees a break from the grind of business and to have them refreshed and ready to work upon arrival,” he said.

As someone trying to kick the habit, I kind of like that rule.

(Photo: Tambako/Flickr Creative Commons)

  • SirWired

    Despite all the griping, the rules are not stupid, even if they sound as such at first glance.

    The prohibitions against using cell phone while in the air have nothing to do with the aircraft. They have to do with the ground-based stations, which aren’t equipped to routinely handle devices that can “see” a huge number of base stations at once. It leads to a larger number of station handoffs than the system is equipped to handle.

    Why no radio receivers in-flight? You got me.

    As far as the takeoff/landing restrictions: Many have wondered how on earth your laptop, iPod, whatever, could possibly “interfere with navigation equipment.” Is the plane going to “get lost”? Well, no. But malfunctioning devices have been known to transmit radio interference in the same bands used by aviation radio, including those bands used by the VOR system. (This is a radio-based navigation system designed for use by air traffic, and it still receives fairly heavy use. Look for the cone surrounded by a ring of short poles next time you approach a decent-size airport; that’s the VOR transmitter.) It’s rare, but it happens. (There was one story about a malfunctioning plasma TV in a college dorm that actually streamed out interference over 121.5 Mhz, which is the aviation emergency band; the FCC had to send out direction-finding trucks to track that one down.)

    In mid-flight, the loss of such a system is not a problem, since the pilot could easily switch over to GPS or some other navigational method. However, on approach or takeoff, the loss of the navigation system currently in use most certainly does present a problem.

  • Michael Klubok

    Note that the Kindle and other digital book readers are part of those electronic devices that cannot be used during takeoffs and landings.

  • Deby O’Bryan

    Rules are rules, without them there is anarchy. Too many people are emotionally dependent on their electronic devices. There may come a day when they are confiscated and carried in the cargo hold.

    One rule that needs some tweaking is being able to carry-on certain sharps. I had a situation where a male flight attendant “pssst, pssst” me from the lav. His pants zipper had broken and he wanted to know if I had a sewing kit or safety pin available. I had to respond “no, you won’t let us carry them on board”. I felt bad, as I am the queen of helping people in a pinch. I suggested he carry his jacket over his arm once he took off the apronwhen leaving the jet. He had still one more flight that day. Surely, the rules could be bent enough so we can carry a pin or sewing needle. Can’t a basic sewing kit be part of the equiptment available to teh crew on every plane? Just a thought, things happen.

  • http://www.trade-law.com Peter Quinter

    Chris,

    No way do I want mobile phones to be used on aircraft after take off and before landing. Bad enough that I have to sit next to someone whose body is physicaly invading my sitting area, but to listen to someone constantly gabbing on the phone right next to me would be unbearable. As the partner in charge of the Customs and International Trade Department of a large law firm, I fly very often.

    I am not convinced that that texting or emailing or otherwise using a mobile phone interferes with the electronics of the aircraft. I would like to see studies about that issue.

    I do use my Blackberry mobile phone while in flight with the Bluetooth turned off. So, when we land and mobile phone use is authorized by the flight attendants, I turn the Bluetooth back on, and all the emails I had typed during the flitght are sent.

    Regards,

    Peter Quinter

  • Dave

    @Deby: “Rules are rules . . .” Yes, but some rules are stupid and should be changed, and there’s certainly nothing wrong with advocating such changes. There seem to be many of the “Stop me before I text again” school.

    I’ve been interested to note that some airlines, such as Continental and Southwest, explicitly ALLOW GPS’s while in flight. I recently flew Bonaire to IAH and enjoyed a long view of the south coast of Jamaica, and it was nice to know what I was looking at.

  • http://qbubbles.wordpress.com Qbubbles

    What really gets me mad is when you’re sitting on the tarmac doing absolutely nothing and a flight attendant tells you to shut off your iPod. Its like, really? Where are we possibly going!? We’re sitting here!

  • Tom

    Would be nice if the rules changed to allow texting. I can see why people wouldn’t want somebody talking on a cellphone seated next to them, but texting doesn’t bother anybody. Was recently on a cross country flight and, because I had accidentally left my cellphone on, received a text as we crossed the Rockies. The plane didn’t crash and nobody around me cared either. I’m sure there are people who enjoy five hours completely out of touch with the rest of the world, but I’m not sure that should be a requirement for air travelers.

  • Skeptical

    I have a friend who was a member of the White House press corps a few years ago and frequently traveled on either Air Force One or the Air Force press/staff plane that accompanied the president; reporters used their cell phones frequently during flight. It is hard to imagine that this would have been allowed if cell phones could endanger the safety of the flight. (But just to be fair, it is of course possible that these government planes have special shielding to protect avionics from interference of all sorts, making the comparison inappropriate.)

  • J C

    I know this is mostly about texting and e-mails, but I’d like to add my 2 cents about people who would hold verbal conversations. I agree with Peter Quinter in that – PEOPLE ON CELL PHONES TALK LOUD, AND I DON’T WANT TO HEAR THEIR CONVERSATIONS. I can live with texting if it is found to be safe, but please – NO TALKING.

  • Smith

    “turning off a phone is no longer realistic.”

    Huh? Why not?

  • KF

    I can understand and support allowing texting on planes, especially since more and more airlines have WiFi (yes I know they are different technologies).

    However, I support the idea of no cell phones on planes if only for the sanity factoe of not having to listen to the conversations around me (and sometimes it’s nice knowing I can’t be reached).

  • CTP

    I do agree with the idea of NO talking on cell phones while in flight, it is bad enough hearing the different conversations before door closure without having to endure it for the duration of the flight. I would like to listen to my iPod, or read my Kindle (or any MP3 player and e-book reader) during take off and landing. It always feels like a very long time from door closure to 10k, and it would be nice to be enjoying my travel necessities during that time. They are the way I cope with all the delays, security issues, long lines, over crowding, and rude people encountered that makes travel a bit stressful.

  • sandyegg

    Most people today who are chronic users of mobile communiction devices (and most of us are) fail to recognize the fact that using them in an environment that is not their office or private residence is at best, annoying to anyone within earshot. Nothing is more irritating than to listen to someone on their cell phone in a public place carrying on a lengthy personal conversation in a voice loud enough to dispense with the cell phone altogether…the person they’re communicating with could probably hear them wherever they are without it.
    I don’t have a problem with air travelers using their devices for non-verbal communication while encapsulated in an aluminum tube (wheather it be a plane, a bus, or other mode of transportation that makes it impossible to ignore them or escape from). Texting is fine, as is emailing. But no talking!
    If planes are going to allow voice communication, they should be outfitted with several sound-proof cubicles to be used for that express purpose for a maximum of, say, 5 minutes, and passengers who use them can be charged a fair fee when accessing them.

  • Joe Farrell

    As a pilot [no, not a commercial pilot] and aircraft owner- I have seen for myself that certain electronics DO affect the accuracy of certain navigation equipment. Given that risk, do you want to be landing with a 300 foot ceiling and have the equipment be 150 feet off?

    There are things called harmonic frequencies which cause interference issues- most often with GPS equipment. Most airlines are not YET using GPS but that is very low power signal that I have seen is easily overwhelmed by certain transmitters – usually GSM network related. I have seen my GPS go offline for a few seconds when calling on the GSM t-mobile or AT&T network. The Verizon network does not affect it at all.

    This is especially an issue with the new fly-by-wire aircraft and Airbus has noted several errors posted in flight control software apparently from the use of emitters on aircraft.

  • http://www.personalsafetygroup.com Larry Kaminer

    At 30 thousand feet is one of the few places I don’t have to be surrounded by people afflicted with “cell yell” and myself am forced to cut the umbilical from my e mail and texting communications.

    My ground rules are if an email or conversation were that critical, I should not be on the flight. I should be at the office or on the horn taking care of business

    We seemed to do okay on flights pre cell phones and PDAs?

  • Carver

    If there was a place on the airplane that was designated for cell phones, then I’d be fine. I wouldn’t want cell calls being made in the seats.

  • Thomas

    I was just on Oman Airlines this Saturday flying from LHR to Muscat. Besides wifi onboard, you could also use your cellphone to make calls or send a text. Maybe their planes are different than what everybody else if flying!

  • Sarah Di

    I understand that people use their cell phones in airplane mode to play games, listen to music, take pictures, etc… but the last thing I want is for the person sitting behind me to spend half the flight yelling into their cell phone because they just can’t wait until we land to have that conversation. In a store or other location, if someone is talking loudly on a cell phone, I can move away. On an airplane, where can anyone go to avoid it? If someone is talking to someone else sitting right next to them, they can talk in a normal tone of conversation with no yelling required.

  • Chcky

    I just have to add my two cents to this one. If texting is safe, and people turn off their keypad sounds, let them text away, or e-mail. Whatever. But for the love of Pete, DON’T let them talk!! I remember a flight from DFW to RNO. I was sitting in the gate area, and this man was talking on his phone. He was at least 50 feet away from me and I could hear every single word. But, we were at the gate, so I couldn’t say much, even when he started on the subject of a friend’s prostate cancer, and began describing the surgical procedure in excruciating detail.
    When we got on the plane, the FA just about had to slap the phone out of his hand so they could close the door! He finally heaved an exaggerated sigh and said, “These people say I HAVE to turn my cell off, so I guess I’ll just have to call you later.” I would have thrown my shoes at him if he hadn’t had to shut his trap! I mean, what was next? An in-depth description of his wife’s hysterectomy, and her female problems leading up to it? Those of us in the gate area were certainly treated to an up close and personal account of the prostate cancer!
    And for the sake of safety, I’m willing to leave my mp3 player off long enough for the plane to get to 10,000 feet. It takes what–15 minutes, maybe? A minor inconvenience. And turning it off for landing means we’re nearly to the destination!
    Granted, when I’m flying, it’s for leisure purposes, so I don’t need to be connected to “the office” when I’m on a plane. But I think Brian Searle, mentioned in the article, has the right idea. Give people a couple of hours when they don’t have to be on the phone.

  • Joe Farrell

    @Thomas – they upgrade the systems to shield them from spurious RF = simple enough to do but it costs money – its akin to how expensive it is to add the premium sound and nav to a car that does not have it from the factory – different wiring harness – different ability to upgrade.

  • Drew Tipton

    @Peter Quinter:
    So what if you have your “Bluetooth” turned off–that’s simply the PAN (Personal Area Network) that connects to your headset… You have to turn off _all_ of your Blackberry’s networks (including WiFi) to be compliant during take-off and landing, and you still have to have the cellular network turned off while in the air to be compliant as well.

    I realize that a lot of what goes on in the air is misunderstanding of what devices can and can’t do. Most (if not all) cellular devices now have an “airplane mode”, which some airlines allow you to use, but some don’t–and there’s no rhyme or reason to who allows it! Delta clearly states that devices must be turned completely _off_ (but do people actually follow this?), while US Air doesn’t seem to have a problem with “airplane mode”…

    In addition, once you’re in the air, there are lookalike devices… when a flight attendant goes down the aisle quickly, is she able to tell the difference between my iPhone in airplane mode and the person across the aisle’s iPod Touch? I’ve had a Delta flight attendant tell me that I can’t use my iPhone in iPod/airplane mode, and there was no way for her to tell that it was an iPhone (device was turned over, book partially on top of it, all that was sticking out was the bottom of the cover!).

    Didn’t someone do a study several years ago that showed that cell phones do not adversely affect large commercial aircraft? (Yes, I fully understand that all bets are off on smaller aircraft! I do remember my college-level physics.)

  • Steve

    I have no idea about the potential for interference with navigation or other systems, so I’ll defer to the experts on that. *If* it’s determined that it’s safe to use cell phones onboard, I don’t have much of a problem with that. Certainly not with texting/emailing, since that’s never going to bother another passenger. As for talking on the phone, I agree that there’s a potential for a passenger to annoy others, but I have to wonder how much worse cell phone usage is than passengers who talk loudly to one another on the plane. I’ve had to listen in on my fair share of annoyingly loud conversations among passengers seated near me, and I’m not sure allowing cell phones would make things much worse. Granted, it would mean that more people would be talking, since many people fly alone, but I’m not sure it would be a huge difference.

  • jrgal331

    How many times have you been on a flight only to hear cell phones starting to vibrate on the decent as you approach the ground? How many of us have gotten off a flight and pulled out our cell phones only to see it was never actually powered down.

    I guarantee this occurs thousands of times a day around the world. What’s been the consequence? To my knowledge none.

    If the Mythbusters can test cellphones on a plane and find no interference then it’s time to rexamine the rule. Trust me, I’m not saying I want people talking while in flight, but e-mails and texts should be permitted.

  • Sean

    I sat next to an early 20 yr old a couple months ago from Philadelphia to Houston. It was sleeting, so we had to de-ice and our take-off would be delayed. She had been sitting next to me, texting the entire time we were taxing to de-ice, a time when electronic devices should be turned off. I didn’t say anything since I figured we were still just taxing and not taking off. During de-icing, she received a phone call, and began talking and carrying on while on the phone. It must have been the most funny conversation ever since she kept throwing herself back against the seat, letting out a hideous cackle. After we finished de-icing and the plane was heading to the runway, several passengers around me made eye contact with me and I politely told her that she needed to end her conversation. She at that point told me that the phone was “in airplane mode.” I informed her that it wasn’t if she was talking and texting and she ended her call. As soon as she hung up, she returned to texting. Eventually a FA walked by as she was proceeding to be seated for take of and told the young lady the phone had to be completely off.
    My story is for two reason, one, that I definitely do not want phone conversations on an airplane, it will be incredibly noisy and two, to demonstrate that either people have no clue what “airplane” mode is or have no problem lying about it.
    I did recently have a pilot come back during the boarding process and ask me about my Kindle (it was a small regional flight and I was the only passenger pre-boarded with elite) and if I had any complaints. My only compliant I told him, was that I couldn’t use it during take-off and landing. He understood what I was saying, but alas, nothing he could do to change the rules. I will say that even the Kindle needs to be put into “airplane” mode, there is a “cell” receiver/transmitter built in . . .

  • 219kimrod

    We all know where this is going to go – the airlines will start charging more for seats in a ‘talk on the phone’ section and eventually charge more for seats in a ‘non-talk on the phone’ section – all in the name of ‘convenience’ for their clients. Recently experienced a young professionally dressed female on the phone describing in detail her previous evening’s explicit xxx rated date – and when asked to lower her voice she just spoke louder. I was seated perhaps 30 feet behind her. It is bad and will only become worse.

  • FJP

    Every so often I am on a flight where the FA explains the electronic device rule by saying “Everything that has an on-off switch must be turned completely off.” Makes the smarta** in me wonder what would happen if someone made a cellphone that had no power off button and a nonremovable (or at least nonremovable without tools) battery.

  • http://www.mediasmith.com Dave Smith

    I found out yesterday that a “major” U.S. based airline will be announcing the end of the ban on wireless in flight shortly. Could not find out who. Could be interesting.

  • Mekhong Kurt, Bangkok, Thailand

    As others here also feel, I have no problem with *silent* use of electronic equipment aboard an aircraft, IF such use is demonstrably safe. After all, equipment can malfunction and interfere, for instance, with radio voice communications. Also as others here feel, I get irked when someone *insists* on blabbing away, even while we’re taxiing on take-off or landing.

    I did see a flight attendant handle a problem passenger who received, and took, a phone call in mid-flight between Bangkok and Hong Kong. She asked him to turn off his phone; he ignored her. Then she “ordered* him to comply; he ignored her again. I figured, as I suppose most others paying attention did, that her next step would be to fetch a cockpit crew member to speak with this jerk, who was virtually shouting into his cell phone (in Cantonese, which I don’t speak, so I haven’t the faintest idea if he had a genuine need to be talking — but the hostess was Chinese, so I assume she *did* understand). To everyone’s amusement, she snatched the phone out of his hand and pointedly turned it off, then headed towards the rear of the plane, his phone in hand.

    Predictably, he shouted something at her, which she ignored. He shouted again, this time in English, demanding she return his phone so he could resume his call. She stopped, returned to him, all smiles (somewhat mystifyingly), and loudly, but in dulcet tones, informed him she would be happy to show him to where he could make a call.

    That startled me, as it apparently did him; it had been clearly announced that NO electronic devices were allowed to be on *anywhere* on the aircraft — so just where would such a place be???

    He blabbled out, “Where’s that?” and without missing a beat, she said, “I’ll show you to the door and you can step outside!”

    The entire cabin erupted into howls of laughter.

    I didn’t hear what she told him as she bent down and returned his phone, but I could see her face and expression. It was clear she was no longer is “Sweetie Pie” mode but laying down the law. He sulked — for the rest of the flight — but he did put his phone into his carry-on bag for the duration.

    It happened I was last to exit the aircraft, so I had a chance to stop and speak with the pilots. I didn’t know the stewardess was right behind me, but I told them the story, and the captain said they were aware of it, as she had gone forward and told them. I replied (still not knowing she was anywhere within earshot) that she ought to get a gold star or something, or maybe the pilots ought to offer her a soda pop or drink for saving them the trouble of a potentially ugly confrontation with a wretched passenger. The stewardess piped up and said something like, “I’ll take a martini, Captain!”

    That caused another good chuckle, for sure!

    Those of you so damned important — lease an aircraft. Or get elected President. Or assigned to the White House press corps. But shut up on commercial flights — even those on which phones, etc. are allowed, and ESPECIALLY on long-haul flights; 14 hours of listening to you blab is NOT my idea of a pleasant flight.

    Or ask for a “seat” in the cargo hold.

    Or, as the stewardess in the story above suggests, “just step right outside”!!!

  • PZ3

    I am a big fan of Mr. Elliott but object to the tack he took writing this article (I observed the crew member texting on the Southwest flight, or at least I thought I did). I agree with the overall tenets of following the rules for aircraft safety, and God knows I don’t want to sit next to anyone gabbing on a cell phone – but I’m not sure what he wrote here was entirely accurate.

    After seeing a flight attendant texting during a flight, I emailed a customer service contact at Southwest and let them know of my concerns. I heard nothing for weeks, and then Chris was soliciting stories about people texting onboard, and I thought I had an interesting story. Shortly thereafter, I received a nicely written snail mail letter from Southwest stating they had investigated my concerns and explaining that the flight attendant was using a PDA to track online inventory. I immediately emailed Chris and told him that I was taking their word for it.

    I’m not 100% sure that’s what I saw (PDA vs. texting), but I appreciate Southwest taking the time to investigate my claim. Sure, they could have written the letter for the purposes of CYA, but I have no reason not to believe them, and feel that Mr. Elliott’s article here is overly harsh towards an airline I like very much. Now I feel bad for bringing it to his attention, but I think it goes a long way for me to post here and present a balanced account.

  • Kevin McCoy

    It always surprises me to read columns and comments like this where no one can seem to believe that a cell phone can interfere with any of the electronics in an airplane. Has no one here ever heard the noise that some TDMA/GSM cell phones create in poor quality audio systems? I hear it in clear-com headset when I’m working a show in the theatre. It also happens in my old stereo that I use for my computer. It’s obnoxious and loud. It could easily drown out important communications with air traffic controllers if it happened in a pilot’s headset. Perhaps those communications systems are shielded well enough to prevent this issue, but it’s not like this is completely outside of reality.

  • twinengine girl

    I’m also a pilot and have personally been at the controls when my strike finder (lightening detection equipment) and compass started going crazy. There wasn’t a cloud in the sky for miles and I wasn’t flying anyplace I hadn’t before. We finally traced it to the fact that for some reason, every time my son hit a certain button on his Nintendo DS, it would interfere with my equipment. No electronics on take-off or landing for our planes!

  • beerdrinker2005

    On my 6 hour flight this week Oman Air announced that cellphones were OKAY to use. Fortunately I was not subjected to any abuse but now I’m looking for sources to warn me of such negligent attitudes by airlines. Any references?

  • MykleK

    The article, and most importantly the comments have been a very interesting read. Although I fully agree with the commenters points about the rudeness and discomfort of having someone talk throughout a flight, and I believe that phone calls in a flight should be banned, two things come to mind.

    1. Cell phones, and I speak for GSM phones, as I am not fully aware of how the CDMA phones work, generate a “I am here” signal every once in a while to find out what towers are available and to signal the tower that they are in the vicinity. This signal varies in output strength the further away from a tower the cell phone is. Thus at 35000ft you can safely assume that there aren’t towers close by, thus the phone will be transmitting its signal at full power (the closer to the tower the power, you will probably have noticed better battery life when you are closer to towers). Now imagine 200 cellphones transmitting a full power 5w signal at once. That is a lot of radio noise. This could affect aircraft avionics.

    2. The pervasiveness of cell phone use into every day life is something that we cannot avoid and the airlines have identified with this, first by installing satellite phones in the seats, and recently are allowing cell phone usage on flights (eg Oman Air), however only once the aircraft is at altitude. The question is why is this happening? The reason is simple. They have installed equipment called FemtoCells into the aircraft which are essentially mini-cellphone towers, these Femtocells, are then connected via the aircrafts satellite communications systems to the telephone networks.

    What this does, is bring the cell tower to the cell phone, thus the phone does not need to transmit a full strength signal 35000ft but can send a low power signal 20ft. Conclusion: reduced power outputs, and therefore reduced danger of problems, albeit more conversations.

    Maybe the creation of “Talking” and “Non-Talking” sections of the plane should be introduced.

    Just for additional FYI, some cell companies are offering FemtoCells to users for home use. These are boon where you may have poor or no signal in your home. These FemtoCells connect to your internet.

  • JB

    when you hear the announcement to turn off your electronic device, just do it. Being told more than once by a flight attendant to do it, is not only disrespectful of following regulations, but you are also being defiant. So now the second and third time the flight attendant not asks, but tells you to turn it off, they are the the bad guys and deemed “being rude”. Just because you don’t get your way doesn’t mean they are rude. If you want to act like an 8 year old expect to be treated as an 8 year old.

  • Patrickmcdiver

    That was a very intelligent reply and adequately presented an argument that is well prepared and articulated, so I chose you to clarify something for me. My smart phone is not much different from an iPad or a computer, however, those devices can be turned on after take off but my cell phone cannot. I can make a “phone call” from either of those devices. Why the disparity in the law?

  • Lexxguard

    In the end, what matters is the safety of the people on board. Can an electronic device, cell phones, or laptop cause a plane trouble? Whether or not a device can affect a flight is not the correct question to be asking. What really matters is, if there is a chance that it could is it worth risking hundreds of lives just to check that email or text someone? This is the question people should be asking themselves. The answer is a blatant no. The risk can never be outweighed by something so trivial when human lives even have a miniscule chance of being put in harms way.