Oh, the irrational passengers airlines fly!

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What is it about air travel that makes us lose our minds?

Just the other day, I got an email from a reader who claimed she was “outraged” by a flight delay.

The first leg of her flight from Austin to Dallas had been canceled, causing her to miss her connection to an international flight. Although her airline handled the service interruption by the book, offering a flight the following day, she would have none of it.

She just knew it was a conspiracy.

Why? Because her parents had taken the identical flights the day before, and they departed on time. She suspected — although she had no evidence to support this conclusion — that because the flights from Austin to Dallas were not flying at capacity, the airline had simply canceled it.

“We have hotel bookings that they are not willing to compensate for,” the passenger said, “not to mention valuable vacation time we are wasting.”

You don’t have to be an expert on airlines to know that canceling a scheduled flight just because it’s flying half-empty doesn’t make a lot of sense. Besides being on the line for missed connections, meals and hotel vouchers for the displaced passengers, it would almost certainly draw unwanted attention from government regulators.

Either way, a single cancellation hardly amounts to a conspiracy.

“I want a refund and apology,” she said.

I told her I couldn’t help. I didn’t tell her why.

But I’ll tell you: Her request was totally unreasonable. A complete refund on a ticket she’d used? Reimbursement for missed hotel nights? Sorry, no can do.

But reason has nothing to do with any of this. If we were reasonable, we’d be willing to pay a fair airfare — one that covered the cost of operating a flight. Instead, we want something free or as close to free as it gets. Maybe that’s why airline managers feel they have no choice but to lie to us about the true costs of our tickets, dangling unsustainably low fares in front of our noses and then socking us with fees and surcharges.

The problem with air travel, both from a passenger and an airline perspective, is that we’ve disengaged our brains almost completely from the process.

Airlines abandoned reason long ago. Their fares make no sense (why does a roundtrip airfare cost half as much as a one-way ticket, for example?). Their business model makes even less sense (it’s based on upselling you on extras, like luggage fees and sky-high change fees). Even the fact that they’re in the airline business to begin with makes no sense, because if they studied their history, they’d know that over the long term, no one makes money
operating an airline.

And how about passengers? A lot of them are just as nuts. On what planet are $59 fares to anywhere sustainable? Not this one. Yet we don’t book until the price is right. And what if that flight is delayed by a few hours? I’ve seen passengers go after airlines for event tickets, missed hotel reservations, lost wages and vacation time when inclement weather prevented an on-time departure.

Who are these people?

When it comes to air travel, almost nothing is rational anymore. Don’t even get me started on airports, the TSA, airport food vendors, mass transit and taxi service to the airport. They’re all out of their minds, too.

The crazy isn’t fixable. It will be with us for generations.

As some of you know, I’m wrapping up this column at the end of the year. It’s been a wild ride, but no industry has offered a richer source of material than airlines.

But as perhaps its greatest beneficiary, l just want to say: thank you.

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Update: Many of you have asked what happens after this column goes away at the end of this year. I’m rolling out a new feature on Tuesday, Jan. 1, which will challenge conventions, slaughter sacred cows and bust myths about all things relating to travel and transportation. If you have any suggestions on what you’d like me to cover — or not cover — please . Your ideas are very welcome.

  • y_p_w

    Frommer’s is discontinuing columns after Google bought them out. This Tuesday column was published in Frommer’s. Chris says the blog as a whole stays.

  • emanon256

    Full fare tickets. If people want a discount, they get a lot more restrictions.

    As an example, full fare tickets on Frontier are very reasonable, and include free food, free drink, free checked bags, and are refundable. I can often buy a full fare ticket on Frontier for less than a discount ticket on United.

  • emanon256

    You may think the price differential between coach and first is silly, but there are still people out there willing to pay for it. I wish I was one of them, but alas I am not.

  • emanon256

    You should have a naming contest.

  • http://twitter.com/DutchessPDX Dutchess

    You didn’t pay for the seats, so why should you be able to sit there? Even if they’re empty. I’m assuming this was UAL, it’s pretty standard practice with them.

    If there was open seats in first or business class would you saunter up there and sit in those? So, why would you assume you could do that in premium economy?

    Save your outrage for something that actually matters.

  • http://twitter.com/DutchessPDX Dutchess

    Okay, thanks!

  • emanon256

    I am not sure how effective those unison really are. My friend who is an FA told me how little she gets paid and she is Union. It’s barely a living wage and explains why she still lives with a roommate in her 40s. She said the only decent Union benefits are the time restrictions and crew meals.

  • bodega3

    There is a cost to operating that flight. If they fill first class with paying passengers, the rest of the plane could fly for free, according to my sales reps. Now if they took the true cost of the flight, didn’t have 1st or biz, only coach, and divided the cost by the number of seats, think people would like that cost?

  • emanon256

    Oh yeah, she was the one taking her parents on her Honeymoon.

  • TonyA_says

    Haha, without the business customers, FedEx can’t fill the airplanes and trucks. So you are correct, the big businesses what rely on effective and efficient distribution provide the economies of scale that FedEx needs. Everyone else fills up the rest of the containers (at higher prices).

    But FedEx also own a trucking (ground) system so when a customer downgrades to a lower priced system, FedEx can still capture the revenue. The Home Delivery division is based on private contractors giving the company a lot of labor flexibility. Also, FedEx can always park the aircraft in the desert when it does not need it and it can route a package anyway it wants for as long as it gets there (you cannot do that for humans).

    For a classic airline, the first and business class provide a large chunk of the base revenue. When business travelers save money, downgrade, and take economy, the airlines revenue model goes out of whack.

    A classic airlines revenue model was never designed to compete with an all economy class low cost carrier (like Southwest). So unless they put up a separate LCC brand (like Singapore Air did), they are gonna get stuck between a rock (pax demand cheaper fares) and a hard place (high fixed cost regime).

  • TonyA_says

    That would make a great title for Chris – Where’s My Entitlement?

  • TonyA_says

    NO.

  • mikegun

    I was at a concert last summer and bought the cheapest lawn seats. I saw a couple of seats that weren’t occupied near the front row, center section. I went to take those because they were empty and was told I can’t! Really? They’d rather have those seats go empty than create goodwill with another customer. I watched and those seats stayed empty the whole concert. If they were sold and the person who had them showed up..I would have moved back.

    I was at a hotel recently and they were nearly empty and I asked about an upgrade to a suite and they wanted to charge me! It was late and I doubt they would have filled them but they wouldn’t just give me the better room. I booked on Priceline BTW.

    I went to pick up my rental car the other day and I had a really small car, like I reserved. I asked about an upgrade to something more luxurious and they told me there was an extra charge…even though they had plenty of cars on the lot and weren’t sold out.

  • mszabo

    Well that somewhat reinforces my point. My point was it isn’t customers choosing the cheapest option, is that the Airlines are only presenting them with one rational option. So there is no choice involved and using the rational that it is the customers fault for choosing that option is false.

    As a matter of fact I would be much more willing to pay the ‘true’ cost of biz / first class if it were available.

  • mszabo

    Sure there are, that doesn’t mean it isn’t silly though. I flew first class all the time back when I was taking business trips and didn’t personally pick up the tab. I’d venture a lot more people would be willing to pay the ‘true’ cost of first class. I could likely afford First Class tickets, but I usually refuse out of principal as the Airline insists on rubbing my nose in the absurdity of the pricing.

  • TonyA_says

    When I worked at FedEx, the pilots were organizing and finally got a union. I believe that was also spurred by the company’s decision to buy Flying Tigers which had a union. If the FedEx pilots did not unionize then the FT pilots would have one over them. The rest of the company did not have a union. We did not need one since FedEx paid VERY WELL.

    I believe Southwest FAs (Unionized) are paid pretty well with their TRIP system compared to other carriers. But generally speaking, most carriers pay FAs low (compared to the job they are required to do). Did you read that Cathay Pacific FAs instead of striking this Xmas will refuse to serve alcohol and smile at customers if they do not get their increases:-)

    One thing we should be paying attention at are those regionals. Everytime I look at my flight scheds, it seems that regional airline flights are becoming the standard. The flight and cabin crew of the regionals are not paid well. To me, that is dangerous. The last thing I want is having a flight crew that is sleepy and tired because they moonlight doing something else for a living.

  • Michael__K

    Be very careful — we don’t have enough information to judge whether such a claim would have been accepted or denied in this situation.

    If you read the fine print, schedule changes are not listed as a covered reason for the Missed Connection benefit. If ANOTHER carrier was operating a flight within 3 hours (tough luck if you couldn’t get on that flight) then that’s another basis for denial. Finally, if your airline drags it’s feet when asked to “certify the delay of the regularly scheduled flight” that’s yet another basis for denial.

    If, while on a Trip, the Insured misses a Trip departure resulting from cancellation or delay of 3 or more hours of all regularly scheduled airline flights due to Inclement Weather or Common Carrier caused delay, the Insurer will reimburse the Insured up to the Maximum Limit shown in the Schedule for:

    1. additional transportation expenses incurred by the
    Insured to join the departed Trip;

    2. prepaid, non-refundable Trip payments for the unused portion of the Trip.

    The Common Carrier must certify the delay of the regularly
    scheduled airline flight.

  • bodega3

    A company tried this and failed. They only offered one fare.
    When you have multiple cabins, you aren’t going to get a ‘true cost’ as you call it.

  • emanon256

    That scares me too. It seems post merger UA out of Denver cut back a lot of mainline and switched it to regional service. Some of the new UAX routes are ~1,500+ miles. Some of the pilots look like little kids and I was talking to one once and he told me he started at $25,000. My jaw dropped. City bus drivers make more than that, only need a GED, and they get to come home every night.

  • bodega3

    I guess most wouldn’t pay the true cost of first class as a carrier that only offered this failed.
    Look at the Concord. It went under. Those tickets were not in most people’s ‘affordable’ range.

  • emanon256

    I don’t think its silly at all. People pay for it, as you mentioned you did when you were taking business trips (I wish my company paid for F). If people are paying for it, then why should they drop the price?

  • Extramail

    I didn’t say you had to be offended. It has always been understood that a suite at a hotel or a “better” car would be more expensive. It’s only recently that you’ve had to pay extra for 2 more inches of space in an airplane. And, it’s not like at a car rental place or a hotel where someone who arrives later mightn’t have already reserved that particular car or room. I’m obviously not an elitist traveler.

  • TonyA_says

    Even Singapore Airlines EWR-SIN (Worlds Longest Flight) which is minimum Business Class only has been shelved.

    So those thinking they want to pay the direct costs of elite class will find that no airline can afford all business and up only for some (or most) flights.

  • TonyA_says

    Makes sense. So really she should have flown the day earlier with her Mama.

  • cjr001

    Anybody who believes that this is simply the problem of a single generation are deluding themselves in many ways.

    Or do you really believe you used to walk uphill 5 miles to school – each way – every day?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=726280331 Amy Godden

    Thank you for helping others, and for sharing and teaching people like me what to do and not to do. I enjoy reading everyday.

    I agree that the current a-la-carte model is frustrating at best and I feel lucky that mostly I travel internationally. I find that I still actually enjoy air travel. On last nights 2 hour flight (departing at 8pm no less) I had a nice meal and wine, included in the price of my ticket. People were pleasant and had some space to move. All this while flying economy, and it’s still the norm for many carriers based in Europe and Asia. I guess the mentality really is different here; I hope it never changes.

  • flutiefan

    exactly, emanon. our “union pay” ain’t that great. i’m not an F/A (i’m at the airport), and the big advantage is that management can’t take advantage of us with times and schedules and such. although my contract was most recently amended to allow them to make us work for 21hrs & 59 minutes with no rest requirement… meaning you may be required to return to your next shift 4 hours later. those 4 hours now include your commute to/from the airport, sleeping, and getting ready.

  • y_p_w

    I thought the legacy carriers made plenty on last minute business travelers flying coach. I once interviewed for a job in the Boston area, and I remember seeing the full fare coach ticket that was booked for me on two days notice. I picked it up at the airport and saw it was over $1300 round trip. I have never ever paid more than $450 round trip for any domestic flight, including trips to Hawaii.

    United tried going all-economy with Ted and failed miserably.

  • y_p_w

    Like I hinted in another post, the retail price is considerably higher than the discount rate that the bulk shippers (esp Amazon) pay. I thought I heard an operator at an online business tell me that it averaged them less than $5 to ship a few pounds overnight with a bulk contract.

  • flutiefan

    as one who is an airline employee and works exclusively at the airport (not on the aircraft), i have to say that the public has gone crazier and crazier over the years. i’ve been doing this for well over a decade, and while the specifics of the complaints have changed, what hasn’t is that people go bonkers at the airport. the stories i could tell you would fill a book, and you probably wouldn’t believe them anyway (such as the time a passenger chased me down the terminal — i ran after he raised his fists to punch me — and was tackled by airport police about 3 feet from me… this was because his travel agent had failed to complete his reservation properly and i couldn’t give him a boarding pass).

    i’m not sure why people find things so difficult at the airport… they refuse to check in on the kiosk (the ones that were put in place because they demanded lower ticket prices, which is sadly achieved by employing less people), even though they use ATMs all the time. “i don’t know how to use a touch screen”, they say, as they put away their iPhone. these people can shop at IKEA where you have to take several steps to actually purchase the item you want, but they freak out when told to drop off their baggage with the TSA or wait in the security line after printing their boarding pass. they tell me they have no idea what time their flight is, they don’t know where they’re going, and of course they didn’t bring their confirmation number — why would they need that??? — but somehow they were able to pack a suitcase and drive themselves to the airport.
    what is so hard about functioning when it comes to travel?? i don’t get it. it’s really not that hard. buy your ticket, show up, get through, sit down, and that’s it.

    i recently heard that a study concluded that people become 30% more stupid the moment they step into an airport. i couldn’t believe it. i thought it had to be at least 50%.

  • flutiefan

    btw, i thought that whole notion of a round trip costing less than a one-way had become less and less common… kinda like the “Saturday night stay” requirement that many airlines had in the past. maybe i’m wrong, but i know my airline hasn’t done that in years. and recently while i was looking to purchase a ticket for an important event, i noticed that all the airlines i checked were quoting each way, not a round-trip.

  • mikegun

    Why would the hotel or car rental offer to allow me to pay for an upgrade if the suite or luxury car was reserved for a late arriving customer?

  • flutiefan

    but it’s odd that here, she says her parents flew on the identical flight the day before and everything was on time, and in the March column she says her parents were rescheduled, too…

  • bayareascott

    Benefits vary from airline to airline, so it is dangerous to make assumptions from the comments from one FA.

    The bigger problem than the “effectiveness of unions” is the governmental regulations. Workers in the transportation industry are at a severe disadvantage compared to other workers when it comes to collective bargaining. Most collective bargaining is governed by the National Labor Relations Act (NLRA). In transportation, there is different legislation called the Railway Labor Act (RLA). This was created because the government believed interstate commerce was too important to allow workers the same rights to “self help” as afforded in other industries.

    Under the NLRA, contracts expire. If there is no new contract in place by the expiration, the workers may strike. Under the RLA, contracts NEVER expire, but become amendable. Negotiations must go through federal mediation and Presidential Emergency Boards when a new Agreement cannot be reached. The average negotiation under the NLRA takes 12 months, and under the RLA, 22 months — almost twice as long. Amtrak workers went almost 8 years without a new contract. Many United employees are about to complete year 4 of negotiations, and have not seen wage increases in over 10 years. The advantage in transportation negotiations is HEAVILY weighted toward the companies. Think about that the next time you take a harsh attitude toward employees.

    This concludes today’s lesson on “Collective Bargaining in the Transportation Industry.” Not that anyone really cares… :)

  • bayareascott

    Other people paid for it. You expect to get it for free. You are exactly what is wrong with the traveling public.

  • bayareascott

    Rows of seats are removed to create that extra space. Six less seats can be sold per row removed. That revenue is made up for by selling extra legroom. You may not be an elitist traveler, but you sound like one. When you give away a product for free, it devalues the product for those who have paid for it.

  • emanon256

    Thank you and I care.

  • jmastron

    It’s still route and season dependent — for our family trips from the west coast to the east coast, I often find that the round trip is the sum of the separate one-way prices, but not always. Worth checking both ways. It’s handy sometimes when I can book each way separately — if I’m coming back separate from the family we can still book outbound together, or we can sometimes use miles for one direction and pay for the other. The risk is, of course, having to pay double change fees if the whole trip has to be moved.

  • Joe Farrell

    Up Front with Chris Elliott . . .

  • http://www.facebook.com/judyserie.nagy Judy Serie Nagy

    Chris, there’s no doubt in my mind that you made this one up. Her PARENTS’ flight the day before wasn’t cancelled so HER cancellation is a conspiracy? I can hardly type from laughing. I also couldn’t wait to tell you that we just flew to Orlando with not a single TSA problem … actually the TSA agent at SJC last week told me I had beautiful blue eyes! I’m still looking for the jerks at TSA and can’t find them. Thanks for all the wonderfulness so far … looking forward to the new column/blog/whatever on 1 January, assuming we live through the end of the world on what? the 21st? Happy Holidays, everybody!

  • Nigel Appleby

    I gree; thank you Chris and keep up the goog work somewhere

  • Nigel Appleby

    Yup how true. I remember when I was still managing an Insurance Brokerage (before I retired) and a customer came to see me because of a problem. I asked him what he wanted me to do to fix it and he didn’t know. His mouth opened and closed like a fish out of water without any noise coming out. He had come in to complain and expected things fixed but didn’t know what it would take to fix the problem. So until he could tell me what action he wanted I couldn’t do anything. He never did come back over the complaint. As has been said elsewhere the complainers expectati0ons must be reasonable.

  • flutiefan

    thank you for that explanation. you said it better than i could have even attempted! i hate the RLA. and i cannot stand that the NLRBoard rulings that assist every other industry don’t have any effect on mine.
    people should also think about that when they take a harsh attitude on all unions. they’re not created equally (good nor bad).

  • y_p_w

    Ah – crazies. Like the infamous Hong Kong International Airport meltdown.

  • bayareascott

    I wasn’t intending to direct that last barb at you. Hope you didn’t take it that way. :)

  • y_p_w

    They typically get that paid by their employer or at least it’s a tax writeoff.

    If employers insisted on special fares which didn’t go to such programs, they’d dry up quickly.

  • emanon256

    I figured you weren’t. But I am glad you said it for the sake of others.

  • bayareascott

    You are welcome. I tend to think people not in the industry don’t care all that much, but these are the plights of workers in all industries today as the corporations are taking over the government. A little education never hurts!

  • mikegun

    I know people who insist on AA when their employer is paying but fly Spirit when it’s their own buck for a family trip.

  • JimDavisHouston

    Wow – this one caught me off guard. Brace yourself for some “hatemail”.

    Secondly – How solid is your information about Friday. Should I change my ORD to IAH flight to Thursday? Under these circumstances, will they charge a change Fee? If I’m delayed by the end of the world, can I get a refund? I’m so confused!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!