3 surprises lurking in your airfare — bet you don’t know what they are

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Your airline ticket isn’t what it seems to be.

I’m reminded of that whenever I hear from readers like Heidi Fox. Her husband tried to switch his United Airlines ticket from Chicago to Orlando to an earlier flight on the same day, and an airline representative assured him he’d only have to pay a $75 change fee.

But what the rep apparently didn’t say is that Fox’s husband would have to shell out a $744 fare difference, too.

“It was only after he received the emailed receipt that he was made aware of the $744 cost differential,” she says.

For the better part of the last decade, airfares have been a reliable source of consternation and confusion. And with good reason. Airlines have built a business model around charging so-called “ancillary” fees and surcharges, or just not revealing all the details about your flight itinerary because … well, because they could.

Some of the surprises are hiding in places you’re least likely to look for them, from items that used to be included in the fare, like the ability to reserve a seat or check a bag, to change fees, to hidden incentives by the folks selling you the ticket.

But 2013 may be the year we get answers.

The Transportation Department is expected to unveil a proposed rulemaking in May that would, for the first time, require airlines to tell their customers about these unexpected extras. Reading between the lines of the “Enhancing Airline Passenger Protections III” rulemaking, it’s interesting to see what the government thinks might be hiding in your airfare.

It may not be on the airline you thought

If you’ve ever booked a ticket on one airline but ended up on another one, then you already know about the not-so-wonderful world of codesharing. The government is considering adding new disclosure requirements to airline tickets being sold online. Right now, for example, you can buy a ticket through Delta Air Lines’ website from Cleveland to Paris, and you might think you’re flying on Delta all the way — until you pay attention to the bottom of your screen. Your first flight isn’t on Delta, but on regional airline Pinnacle “doing business as” a Delta Connection; your second flight from New York to Paris is not on Delta, but codeshare partner Air France. No Delta at all. Blink, and you might miss this little fact.

Your fare may not have been the lowest available

When you pick up the phone to call a travel agent or log on to a popular online travel agency, you might not be getting the best fare for you. Instead, they may be giving you the best fare for them. The government is considering a new rule that would require ticket agents to disclose any incentive payments they receive in connection with the sale of air transportation. On a practical level, that would be a prominent “sponsored link” next to an advertised airfare. But it could also mean that your travel agent would have to disclose any hidden incentive, bonus or “override” received in connection with the purchase. That would be interesting.

Other fees may apply

One of the most frustrating aspects of 21st century air travel is the myriad of airline fees we’re faced with. They can easily double or triple the cost of travel, and they aren’t always reasonable ($100 for a carry-on bag — puhleeze!). The feds are considering a rule that would require additional or special disclosures regarding certain substantial fees, like oversize or overweight baggage fees. Depending on where in the booking path these disclosures come, it could affect your purchasing decision — something the airline industry is desperately trying to avoid.

I’ve sat face-to-face in a room with airline executives who declared these rules are completely unnecessary. For starters, it’s difficult to find any industry in which prices and fees are this regulated, they say. What’s more, their current disclosures are perfectly adequate and getting better all the time, so there’s no need for the government to get involved. As far as travel agents are concerned, their bonuses are nobody’s business.

As a consumer advocate, I see things differently. My readers want to know how much their ticket will cost before they fly. Plus, they want to be able to compare prices across airlines, including baggage and seat-reservation fees, so they can find the best deal. They also want to know if someone paid their agent to push the fare they purchased. The only reason I can see that these parties aren’t being more transparent is that they profit from withholding information.

And that’s not right.

Do air travelers know enough about their ticket?

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  • bodega3

    Nothing has changed Aussie. There have always been rules attached to each and every fare, one way or roundtrip. All countries have them. Now that you have access to them online, you are seeing what those of us in the biz have been seeing for decades. Nothing new.

  • 57bigcheese

    I hate flying and now try to avoid it at all cost.

  • AUSSIEtraveller

    that’s just it … it should be clear BUT IT’S NOT !!!
    We know Qantas baggage limits, but Qantas says to call Alaska, American, Air Pacific, which is hopeless.
    If they are selling each others tickets, then they should have it all sorted out & they definitely don’t.
    Moral of the story is be nice to chekc in staff. They cope a lot of abuse.

  • AUSSIEtraveller

    yes.
    Here’s itinerary
    BNE/SYD/HNL QF
    HNL/SAN AS
    LAX/EGE/LAX AA
    LAX/NAN/BNE FJ
    all using Qantas ff points.
    Hate when airline staff say something to the effect, oh you’re on free tickets. Nothing free about having to spend AUD$250K to get FREE tickets, which still must pay taxes/charges on, esp when QF taxes/charges are horrendous (eg. taxes on SYD/LAX/SYD are almost AUD$900/adult inc massive fuel surcharge)

  • AUSSIEtraveller

    but it’s getting worse with legacys who aren’t making any money, looking at LCC’s & ULCC’s who charge for everything except air, toilets, stairs … making profits that legacies can only dream of.

  • y_p_w

    Found an interesting article on free standby. Part of it mentions free same-day standby, where some airlines still offer it to frequent fliers. I found that Alaska Airlines still offers free same-day standby for anyone flying between Portland/Seattle or Seattle/Spokane.

    Standby travel: Not for the faint of heart
    http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/24/travel/standby-travel/index.html

    The other part was about “nonrevenue” passengers – either buddy passes or families of airline employees. I’ve done that a few times, and it got to be interesting. However, mine were only international and I didn’t deal with the hotels or other stuff. I got to know how it paid to be nice to the agent at the check-in counter. We also picked travel days that we knew would be lightly traveled. I do understand that with domestic travel it can get interesting having people becoming belligerent about whether they’re going to be able to board on a buddy pass. One of the regulars here even commented on this article about being very selective with buddy passes, lest someone rude to the gate agent gets the employee in trouble.

  • http://www.pipdigital.com Nancy Dickinson

    As much as I am against government intervention for all the minutiae in life, I do feel this is one instance where we, the consumer, are powerless to change anything and the government has to step in.

    Sadly, we live in a world where dishonest business practices and subterfuge geared towards “screw the consumer” is commonplace. The airlines, one industry that specializes in “screw the consumer”, is taking us all for a ride, both literally and figuratively, and we’re stuck in the middle of it all.

    I recently started giving Greyhound a hard look. While it might take longer to get to where I need to go, I’ll be getting there for a whole lot less (being military, we pay a flat rate to anywhere Greyhound goes, $236), more comfortably (they started retro-fitting their buses, removing a couple of rows to spread the rest out for more leg and reclining room), free wi-fi, electrical outlets on each row of seats to plug in your electronics and I don’t have to deal with being sexually violated every time I travel. They make stops for dining three times a day and I’ll feel more refreshed at the end of the trip. I can also rent a car on the other end and all of it will cost less and with much less hassle.

    The airlines are taking advantage of the people’s desire for immediate gratification and we’re letting them do it. Me, I’m voting with my feet.

  • bodega3

    I you have 4 separate tickets, then this is easy. You just go to each airlines website and see what their baggage policy is. Easy as you don’t have a through ticket if you have 4 different reservations.

  • bodega3

    They aren’t sell ticket, but using miles on those carriers. If you have four tickets, then just look the baggage information up on line. What might I be missing on this that is confusing you?

  • AUSSIEtraveller

    all on one ticket, so airline that issues should be able to tell you clearly when you can carry without being told to bend over + other complication is stopover time.
    If under 24 hour stop, then different rules apply, than if having a stopover over 24 hours.

  • bodega3

    But you know all this BEFORE you buy the ticket, so what’s the issue? Don’t fly the low cost carriers if you don’t like their rules especially if you have other options.
    Look it, there has always been fare rules and now that you can be a DIY’er, you have the responsibility to know what you are buying if you handle it solo. If you don’t like this, use a local travel agency so they can assist you and make it easier.

  • AUSSIEtraveller

    no, the problem is when you get eg. a Qantas ticket on Junkstar & the Qantas baggage rules apply but some 3rd party check in person doesn’t know the rules.
    Qantas now does not handle of lot of check in at Australian airport. It goes out to the lowest tender I think & Menzies Aviation Services does it for many of Qantas flights now & there staff are on a fraction of what qantas staff were on & they are not very well trained or they have to deal with lots of different airlines passengers everyday.

  • AUSSIEtraveller

    when you have pages & pages of lawyer english (illiterate) that often says refer to other airline, who knows what to do.

  • MarkieA

    Which one is Ruth’s Chris? I guess maybe Singapore Air? There seems to be a whole lotta Ponderosas and not too may Ruth’s Chrises.

  • AUSSIEtraveller

    no it says refer to other carrier.
    What does that mean ?
    Call them (that’s useless, as quoting what someone said is menaingless), look up their website, which often covers their own frequent flyer tickets, but not those issued by other carriers.

  • bodega3

    Are you stopping over in any of these connecting cities? Your routing isn’t a normal routing for miles, so I am guessing you are using a lot of miles for this, hence the need to worry about the baggage fees. If you are flying coach, then what just go to each website and look up the fees. You are allowed one checked piece of one price domestically and usually a second checked piece is a few dollar more. Max weight is 50lbs per bag. Your carry on with AS and AA will need to be smaller than if your flight from SYD is a 777 or a 747. When it comes to using miles, most ticketing carriers will tell you to check with the partner airlines.

  • bodega3

    What do you want to know? Your carry on and checked luggage for ff tickets are the same as for paid tickets, so not understanding your confusion.

  • AUSSIEtraveller

    stopping in some.
    We’re allowed 2 x 23kgs each on Qantas, 23kgs total each on Air Pacific, but Alaska & American are mysteries.
    (FYI QF have very few fights to Hawaii with their onw metal these days & the oens they do have are on very old 767′s. Qantas has no 777′s)

  • AUSSIEtraveller

    no baggage limits are clear on paid tickets, but not on ff tickets when multilple carriers are used.

  • TonyA_says

    This is SO SIMPLE.

    Since this is in ONE TICKET then assume Qantas issued it.

    Based on IATA 302 and DOT Baggage Rules, you get 2 bags 50 lbs max each ALL THE WAY INCLUDING THE STOPOVERS.

    Print the QF ticket with the baggage allowance and show it to all desk agents. Tell them you are invoking IATA 302 and US DOT Baggage Rules together with QF (Qantas) Baggage Allowance for QF coded international flights. http://www.qantas.com.au/travel/airlines/us-baggage-allowance-and-fees/us/en

    1*QF5815 BNESYD 1155A 230P/O $ E
    *OPERATED BY JETSTAR AIRWAYS — JQ815
    2*QF 283 SYDHNL 600P 645A/X $ E
    *OPERATED BY JETSTAR AIRWAYS — JQ3
    3 AS 860 HNLSAN 1250P 825P/O $ E
    4*QF3838 LAXNAN 1030P 515A#2/O $ E
    *OPERATED BY AIR PACIFIC LTD — FJ811
    5*QF 348 NANBNE 840P 1040P/X $ E
    *OPERATED BY AIR PACIFIC LTD — FJ923

    BAGGAGE ALLOWANCE
    ADT
    QF BNESAN 2PC
    BAG 1 – NO FEE UPTO50LB/23KG AND UPTO62LI/158LCM
    BAG 2 – NO FEE UPTO50LB/23KG AND UPTO62LI/158LCM
    CARRY ON- CARRY ON DATA NOT AVAILABLE

    QF LAXBNE 2PC
    BAG 1 – NO FEE UPTO50LB/23KG AND UPTO62LI/158LCM
    BAG 2 – NO FEE UPTO50LB/23KG AND UPTO62LI/158LCM
    CARRY ON- CARRY ON DATA NOT AVAILABLE

  • TonyA_says

    And the carry on on QF coded flights should be 45in and 7kgs.
    You will get away with more than 7kgs on AS and AA segments because they don’t care as much as QF does.

  • TonyA_says

    Peter Luger is Singapore/Qatar/Cathay Pacific.

  • TonyA_says

    Sorry I printed the itin w.o. Vail. Here is the correct one:
    You get 2 bags all segments!

    1*QF5815 BNESYD 1155A 230P/O $ E
    2*QF 283 SYDHNL 600P 645A/X $ E
    3 AS 860 HNLSAN 1250P 825P/O $ E
    4 AA2264 LAXEGE 515P 830P/O $ E
    5 AA2095 EGELAX 635P 750P/O $ E
    6*QF3838 LAXNAN 1030P 515A#2/O $ E
    7*QF 348 NANBNE 840P 1040P/X $ E

    BAGGAGE ALLOWANCE
    ADT
    QF BNEEGE 2PC
    BAG 1 – NO FEE UPTO50LB/23KG AND UPTO62LI/158LCM
    BAG 2 – NO FEE UPTO50LB/23KG AND UPTO62LI/158LCM
    CARRY ON- CARRY ON DATA NOT AVAILABLE

    QF EGEBNE 2PC
    BAG 1 – NO FEE UPTO50LB/23KG AND UPTO62LI/158LCM
    BAG 2 – NO FEE UPTO50LB/23KG AND UPTO62LI/158LCM
    CARRY ON- CARRY ON DATA NOT AVAILABLE

  • AUSSIEtraveller

    spoke to 3 people at Qantas who all said, we’d probably have to pay on Alaska & American.

  • TonyA_says

    They are not correct. The DOT rule (for flight to/from USA) requires the SAME BAGGAGE ALLOWANCE THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE JOURNEY of the FIRST CARRIER. Since your first (MARKETING) carrier is Qantas (QF) then their baggage allowance applies throughout your journey. WARNING: I am assuming all your flights are on ONE TICKET (issued by Qantas)as you wrote here somewhere

    If Chris Elliott is reading this, this is an example where CODESHARE gives the passenger MAXIMUM advantage.
    None of the QF coded flights are on Qantas metal but the pax still got Qantas baggage allowance BY US LAW.

  • TonyA_says

    There are still parts of the world where you can fly with dignity. Try flying to Japan. We did it for the Xmas holidays and loved it. Even if all the seats were sold out, there was no rush, no oversized carry ons, no shouting, no pushing, no touching/no scanners by Japanese airport security (very helpful also). Very courteous people.

  • bodega3

    Tony, when I have tried to use miles to Europe and intra Europe flights, both for clients and myself, the intra Europe flights, when broken by a layover, had different luggage rules. He is flying into SAN then LAX to EGE. I would be interesting in seeing dates (give phoney ones if you want, but same layover schedule) to get a clearer idea. If this is considered a through ticket, then yes, the over the water carrier’s rules apply.

  • TonyA_says

    Bodega, as I had written earlier there is a conflict between IATA 302 and DOT Pax Protection Baggage Rules. No matter, DOT trumps everything for as long as the JOURNEY is from/to USA. Many International carriers do not undertstand or do not want to understand the DOT rule. They are stuck with the segment oriented IATA 302 resolution. However Alaska and Americans are US carriers and have no excuse not knowing DOT rules.

  • TonyA_says

    The above itinerary has stopovers in HNL, SAN, and EGE. The GDS correctly applied the DOT BAGGAGE RULE, not IATA 302 for outside USA.

  • bodega3

    I am sure we are boring others, but this is just not clear enough for me to agree on the type of ticket this is considered. With all the new ruling regarding interline bags not on a through fared ticket, I just don’t know how to judge this mileage ticket with that routing. Flying into SAN, then out of LAX? How is that not two tickets with using miles? Something just doesn’t add up for me.

  • TonyA_says

    The itinerary is completely legit for a revenue ticket as I was able to autoprice it.
    Interestingly it is also possible using miles on Qantas and Partner Classis Awards.
    The AA segments are easy since it is a oneworld partner.
    Jetstar and Air Pacific are International partners and also a no brainer since the flights themselves are QF codeshares.
    Finally, Alaska (AS) is also a Qantas International partner.
    See http://www.qantas.com.au/fflyer/dyn/program/usingPoints/flight

    Multi-destination Itineraries

    The number of points you need for a Qantas & Partner Classic Award flight is calculated by adding up the one-way trips in your itinerary. There are no points charges for stopovers or for any non-flown (surface) segments. Your itinerary may have no more than 16 flights or surface segments. However, if the total distance of a single trip is over 15,000 miles, the trip must be broken down into sub-trips in order to calculate the number of points you need.

    Very doable. AussieTraveller is coming to America with two free bags each per thr US DOT.

  • Miami510

    There are a lot of undisclosed charges… that is until they are on your bill.
    .
    Story: My wife and I were planning a trip on which she had sufficient points for a free ticket. I had an insufficient number of points in my account and my wife was discussing a combination of using my points, her lending me some point from her account and buying some points to meet the requisite number.
    ,
    There was a fee for transfering the points from her account to mine. In addition to the per point charge, there was an additional transaction fee.
    .
    At that point, my wife realized that she would have additional points on a forthcoming trip and wouldn’t need the transfer. The agent told her there would be an additional two charges to return the points from my account to hers, since this was just done. This was all in the same telephone conversation.
    .
    We were so annoyed by this, we decided to leave the points where they were, use them for flights for our children, and we’re going to fly another airline.

  • bodega3

    This has been policy for most frequent flyer programs for a long, long time. At one time British Airways allowed the combining of points, for no fee, but I believe they changed that policy.

  • TonyA_says

    What did they fail to disclose to you?
    - that there is a point transfer fee to another member?
    - that there is a point redeposit fee?
    I suppose all this is written in the membership rulebook.

  • Miami510

    I’m sure that somewhere beyone the link that says, “I agree with the terms and conditions,” which is necessary to click on to enter a program, and some phrase that says the company has the right to change the terms and conditions at their sole disgression, I would find those charges. I am complaining about the basic unfairness of a business transaction involving the airline’s BEST customers… those that have been sufficiently loyal to accumulate points towards transportation. It is towards us that their shabby treatment is directed…and while I’m on the subject of shabby dealings, there is the moving of the goal posts for an international flight. It use to be 60,000 miles. Now it is 72,000 miles for most flights. For 60,000 they put another catagory: 60,000 will only qualify a passenger for a 6:30 AM flight that makes two or three flights before going overseas, thereby adding six hours more to the total flight.
    We still have our vote… the one with our feet !

  • flutiefan

    that was probably me! buddy pass riders can be absolute nightmares, and i am leery to give mine out to anyone, lest they too lose their minds when they get bumped off a flight.
    that old adage is true: you never really know someone until you travel with them.

  • http://www.facebook.com/linda.bator Linda Bator

    Unfortunately, the legal requirements are what force these CoC and tariff rules so difficult to read – more regulations will just make more legalese!

  • http://www.facebook.com/linda.bator Linda Bator

    NO free bags – but on some shorter flights, its only $19 to upgrade each seat.

  • http://www.facebook.com/linda.bator Linda Bator

    Yep – they are!

  • Michael__K

    What would you remove from the existing disclosures that would make them easier to understand? Do you mind being specific?

    Do you also think the federal truth-in-lending requirements (like standard, mandatory one page summaries) make loans HARDER to understand?

    Do you also think that FTC Energy Star labeling requirements for appliances make it HARDER to compare energy usage between appliances?

  • TonyA_says

    AGREE !!! Adding more (BS) words to a lot of other existing words mean nothing except more confusion. Why does the DOT think passengers even READ or UNDERSTAND all the so-called disclosures today? The real goal must be to keep things SIMPLE.

  • TonyA_says

    I’ll give you one example. Look at my posts explain the difference between the (new) DOT Baggage Rules and the accepted worldwide (standard) IATA Reso 302.
    Even airlines and travel agents cannot figure out what to do.

  • Michael__K

    How is that germane to what I’m taking about?

    If the DOT rescinded every baggage rule its ever issued, precisely what would change in the airline contract language that would make them easier to understand?

    You didn’t answer my questions: Do you think the mandatory one-page truth-in-lending disclosures are a bad idea? Do you think Energy Star labeling requirements are a bad idea? That’s the sort of disclosure I’m talking about.

  • TonyA_says

    Each carrier has an easy to understand baggage rule. Correct?
    If you combine two or more carriers in one journey, one ticket, whose baggage rules apply? According to the DOT only the first carrier’s rule should. According to IATA the most significant carrier’s apply for each journey constituted by a complete stop.
    So which carrier is suppose to figure out what? The rules can make soething simple become more complex.

  • Michael__K

    This is a side issue that is completely distinct and separate from whether or not to adopt uniform, concise disclosure standards like I’m suggesting.

    Why are you replying to my comments if you want to ignore my questions and talk about something else? Feel free to start other comment threads.

    [And no, I don't necessarily agree that "each carrier has an easy to understand baggage rule" but, again, that's also a separate topic]

  • bodega3

    As of now, the only DOT baggage regulation I am aware of is the one that carriers have to advise the cost. What do you think is DOT regulated?
    The disclosure of fare rules are already there as are the baggage rules and meal service when we issue a ticket. What disclosure are your asking about?

  • mk_1001

    Read the first comment. I assume your other questions are for TonyA, because I didn’t bring up the DOT.

  • bodega3

    If you’ll notice it is for Michael_K.

  • Michael__K

    Sorry, I can’t vouch for TonyA’s claim about “the (new) DOT Baggage Rules” and I’m not the one suggesting that DOT regulations are the reason why disclosures are so hard to understand.

  • Nathan Witt

    The only reason for the airlines to object to telling you, upfront, how much it will cost you to travel on a given route and what, if anything, their extra charges are is that they hope you buy a cheap ticket without researching and are then forced to pay the additional fees against your will. If airlines are set on having a base-price-plus-options model for their services, it’s not hard for them to clearly disclose that by, for instance, asking you to prepay for checked luggage or meals at the time you buy your ticket. They just don’t want to.