Should I send these Rube Goldberg ticket cases to the recycler?


My head is spinning after reading Amy Zimmerman’s complaint about Aeroplan, Turkish Air and Swiss.

I think I need to sit down for a minute.

In June, Zimmerman and her husband were on a return flight from from Athens to Istanbul. In the good old days, their tickets would be fairly simple and might involve a little interlining, but pretty easy to figure out. Airline policies were similar and when they weren’t, employees were flexible.

Today? Not so much.

“Our airline tickets were arranged with total mileage for business class through Aeroplan,” she explains. The routing was Athens to Istanbul via Turkish; Istanbul to Zurich on Swiss and then Zurich to Miami on Swiss.

“When we presented our ticket at the Turkish Air counter, we were informed that only one bag for check-in was allowed at no charge for the two business class seats,” she says. “The remaining two bags to be checked through to Miami, were charged $300.”

In business class? Seriously?

Yes, seriously. Aircraft type and her luggage weight might have played a part. (One of my editors, who has access to a GDS, looked this one up and found that she should have been allowed two bags.)

But read the restrictions for yourself. It’s possible, if her bag was heavy enough and the plane was small enough, that Turkish was following its own rules.

“The free cabin and checked baggage allowance may vary according to reservation class and departure runway,” Turkish warns, adding, “Please check your ticket for information regarding your free baggage right.”

But wouldn’t the Swiss rules trump the Turkish policy? Consider the following, also part of the Turkish policy:

MSC (Most Significant Carrier)
most significant and/or longest part of the journey.

If Turkish Airline is MSC in your journey then Turkish Airline’s free baggage allowance will apply, if another airline is MSC in your journey than the free baggage allowance of that airline will
If another airline is involved in your whole journey; the most significant carrier’s (MSC) free baggage allowance rule will be applied. MSC is assigned according to which airline operates the apply.

Oh, but wait. How about the DOT rules, which have specific restriction on how luggage postill licies need to be applied. Don’t they have any relevance? My editors are arguing about this one.

Is your head spinning yet?

Zimmerman phoned Turkish, asking about its luggage policy. A representative told her that two bags were allowed for each business class ticket.

“I called Aeroplan to ask if there was anything on the mileage ticket that called for one bag only for 2 business class seats. Their response: “I never heard of such a thing’,” she says.

“I then called Turkish Air customer service,” she says. “I was on hold for 1 ½ hours, only to be told that any numbers that showed on my boarding pass receipts were not the electronic ticket numbers which I needed in order to issue a complaint online.”

She didn’t bother calling Swiss, but I can only imagine what it would have said. Bureaucracy anyone?

“I called Visa, thinking they would contest the charge for us,” says Zimmerman. “The response from a supervisor in the dispute department was, ‘You signed approval of the charge. Therefore it stands.'”

I asked Zimmerman to send me the paperwork on this dispute, believing that maybe I could help.

And then I came to my senses.

What was I thinking? I mean, between Visa, Aeroplan, Turkish and Swiss, this thing is a real house of cards. (That sounds like a sandwich, actually.) If I didn’t know any better, I’d say airlines, loyalty programs and credit cards are imposing these many layers of policy with one thing in mind: to entrap customers like Zimmerman into paying fees they know will never be refunded.

By helping her, wasn’t I just perpetuating this hopelessly confusing system?

And how about customers who willingly collect Aeroplan points and then spend them on confusing itineraries. (Oh, you’re not confused? Which travel agency do you work for?)

If I jump in, am I not endorsing these counter-intuitive “tickets” with hidden expenses? Perhaps.

Sure, Zimmerman deserves a refund. (I haven’t heard back from her, but if I do, I’m inclined to give her a hand or to at least give the DOT a heads-up on her grievance.) But to my point, am I better off leaving these Rube Goldberg-like itineraries alone, and focusing on the ones that make sense? Or would I be perpetuating them by not getting involved?

And more to the point, do governments have an interest in keeping tickets simple so that the rest of us know where the buck stops?

Should I stay away from complex mileage ticket cases?

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  • Travelnut

    Amen on the BOGOs. I know why they do it but still.

  • bodega3

    Did you break the fare or did the fare allow for a stop over in Paris?

  • bodega3

    I see that in SFO for those traveling home to Mexico. I met the checker at my local grocery store once on the airport bus from our area. He had boxes of stuff that he was taking back to his home (owns a place on the family ranch) and family. He goes back to see his mom twice a year and has requests for loads of stuff.

  • bodega3

    Yes, you contact the issuing airline, which the ticket number tells you that with the first 3 numbers. When I have cashed in my miles to get a ticket on a partner carrier, not an upgrade, I dealt directly with the carrier I was going to fly, hence my comment.

  • Carver Clark Farrow

    I must concur. The fact that it’s a FF ticket does not appear to be germane to this issue. In fairness to Chris, we all have our biases and myopia. Chris is doing what each and every one of us does. We judge the worthiness of the traveler by whatever criteria and that largely determines whether we think they should be helped.

  • Jeanne_in_NE

    Too bad the OP didn’t have someone like you that she could rely on. I can get a great deal on a rental car from Costco, say, but I can’t get great advice or help from Costco. Your actual experience has far more value than my armchair speculation, even if my chair *did* have arms.

  • Lindabator

    That’s why I think the other two were overweight – makes sense pricewise as well.

  • Lindabator

    that’s what it sounds like to me.

  • LZ126

    Each traveler’s itinerary and booking method(s) are so unique that although you may have addressed that particular traveler’s situation, there wouldn’t be much in the way of precedental value to later travelers, except to “beware!”

  • Judy Serie Nagy

    What a disaster. Another reason to use a travel agent, another reason to get to the airport early, another reason to travel light, another reason to know each airline’s rules, another reason to be always polite then ask for a supervisor (see above: getting to the airport early). I got nailed $150 from AirFrance several years ago at Heathrow because of an accident out on the motorway … I didn’t have the time to do anything but whip out my credit card and trot off to the gate. We all know what travel SHOULD BE like, most of us know what it IS like. Airlines will get every dime out of a passenger. That’s reality today. Should Chris get involved? Only if he has nothing else to do for about 240 hours over six months.

  • CarolinaLannes

    The fare allowed for the stop over. I checked before buying.