Why doesn’t travel insurance cover dad’s illness?

When Jessica Kamzik’s father was diagnosed with stomach cancer last summer, there was no question about what she had to do. Dad’s prognosis was “grave” — the doctors said he probably wouldn’t make it to the holidays — and, “as any loving daughter would do, I immediately cancelled our vacation to stay closer to him,” she says.

Good thing she had travel insurance through Access America, she thought. At least she wouldn’t have to worry about losing the cost of her trip.

But she thought wrong.

Kamzik make a claim on her policy, confident that it would help her recover the $1,400 she’d spent on her vacation. After all, her travel insurance covered the “illness of a family member” and specifically one that “is considered life threatening or requiring hospitalization” — which is what her father’s illness was.

But Access America didn’t see it that way.

She explains,

They refused to pay based on what they say is a “pre-existing” condition. They made this claim based on a doctor’s note that was first sent in, which stated that my father had symptoms two months prior to when he was diagnosed.

Their insurance policy says that if the client had symptoms 120 days prior to when the policy was bought (July 19th 2011), the refund was void.

Now, I understood this, so asked for verification from his doctor. His doctor sent in all the notes, explicitly stating that my father was very healthy prior to his cancer, and that any symptoms he had were not necessarily related to cancer.

Yet, the travel insurance company still refuses to refund our money.

As I reviewed her case and examined the fine print in her contract, I thought Access America was taking a very narrow view of what constituted a “pre-existing” condition. Had her father been diagnosed with cancer, or had his doctor’s suspected he had cancer and were in the process of testing him for it when she bought the policy, then they’d have a valid reason for denying her claim.

But stomach pain? I get that whenever I eat grandma’s spaghetti (but it’s a good kind of pain). Is my travel insurance going to deny a claim because I had a little heartburn? I thought this was worth bringing to Access America’s attention. Maybe one of its adjusters had failed to see the big picture.

Access America reviewed its decision. Here’s what it had to say:

We are very sorry that Ms. Kamzik’s father is ill and we wish him and his family the best. We had our claims department investigate the status of Ms. Kamzik’s claim.

The travel insurance policy that Ms. Kamzik purchased excludes claims for existing medical conditions. Existing medical conditions are defined as any illness occurring to a family member during the 120 days prior to and including the effective date of the purchased insurance for which: a) medical diagnosis or treatment by a Physician has been sought or advised or for which symptoms exist, which would cause a prudent person to seek diagnosis, care or treatment.

A review of Ms. Kamzik’s father’s physician’s notes from July 28 indicate that he had constant stomach pain for the past one and a half months. As these symptoms of illness occurred within 120 days of Ms. Kamzik’s purchase of her travel insurance policy, any subsequent claim based on a stomach illness or condition would be excluded from coverage.

I’m very sorry that we could not cover Ms. Kamzik in this situation, but we do wish her the best in her future travels.

That’s really too bad. I asked Kamzik for her reaction.

That’s disappointing. I will continue to fight this, however, because I believe that Access America will do everything they can to scam buyers out of their money.

They already gave me this answer (multiple times), so I went back to each of my father’s doctors and had them confirm that my father’s symptoms were not related to his current condition (a terminal illness). Even with both doctors backing me up, Access America refuses to do the right thing.

I’m moving Kamzik’s case into my “dismissed” file, but I’m not happy, either. Too many travelers are getting snagged by what seems to be a strict interpretation of the pre-existing conditions clause. It’s definitely something to be aware of the next time you buy travel insurance.

(Photo: Free and happy/Flickr)

  • Anonymous

    I first learned about policies with the pre-existing condition waiver right here.   

  • Anonymous

    Well, if you don’t trust INSURANCE then it won’t work for you. Insurance is suppose to be there when you need it. So if you can’t trust it then don’t buy it.

    Just have enough money to buy a quick return trip ticket.

  • Anonymous

    Amen, TonyA_says! 

  • Anonymous

    Um, are you trying to be snarky with the INSURANCE?  Because as Count de Monet said in “History of the World, Part I” – “Don’t get saucy with me, Bernaise!

    Okay, seriously – below, you are pointing out the trip insurance industry routinely sells policies that aren’t actually adequate coverage.  And you – and other TA’s (are you a TA?  you seem to have this close to hand, which is why I ask) had to dig up a portion of the contract to illustrate where, why when and how coverage is extended.  You have to know how to navigate the maze, and most people don’t know how to do that.

    And lord knows, Chris has covered more than one story where trip insurance hasn’t helped travelers – true, sometimes it’s because they didn’t read the fine print (I’m thinking the story earlier this week where the 78 year old abandoned her trip – I can see where abandoning your trip would not qualify for a payout).  But sometimes because the agency appears to get out of paying out a claim via a loophole.

    (I really feel as if that is what’s going on here.  Most people who have a persistent symptom will usually wait it out at least a few weeks, just to make sure they don’t have a virus.  It’s not like you are healthy, wake up with a stomach ache one morning, and immediately call your entire family to tell them you think you have stomach cancer so make sure to get that pre-existing condition waiver if they’re planning on buying trip insurance.)

    But you seem to think, then, that my cynicism is unmerited.  But from what I can tell, it’s not.  This whole post and thread – where we have to have a dissertation on modern diagnostic process, how we self-diagnose a stomach-ache and how it relates to the travel industry – would seem to support my attitude at the very least.

  • Anonymous

    Snarky? No. That honor goes to Raven. I can’t possible compete with him.

    Seriously, the reason to buy travel insurance is to protect yourself from surprise expenses. If you can easily afford to buy another ticket, book extra hotel days, or have a good medical or homeowner’s insurance then why buy travel insurance?

    I’m just a skeptical as anyone here. If I feel all insurance companies will wiggle out of paying any of my claims, then I won’t buy travel insurance. It’s that simple.

  • Anonymous

    But the doctors could NOT rule it out, and subsequently found the cancer.  If that had NOT thought it was a basis for their further tests, they would not have included it.

  • Anonymous

    I also believe that the travel industry is full of gotchas. That is the by product of the internet, IMO.

    Nice looking websites, SEO tactics, and the pay to play (pay per click) antics don’t really do anything positive for consumers. We really need a dumbed-down, no questions asked consumer to buy that many travel products by simply clicking online. So I am cynical, too.

  • Anonymous

    They may have purchased it outside the time allotted, or purchased it for travel delays, med-evac for themselves, lost or delayed luggage, fear of bad weather – LOTS of reasons.  But to cover pre-existing – MUST purchase the proper policy with in the proper time frame.

  • Anonymous

    I will NEVER do business with this company.

  • Anonymous

    That’s fine.  I’m suggesting it’s dishonest for them to advertise that it covers cancellations for the illness or death of a family member.  Because about 95% of the time it won’t.

  • Anonymous

    To answer your last question, yes. 

    There are other benefits to travel insurance and if you don’t think you would be covered, even after speaking to the company, don’t buy it.  I don’t like insurance but took it out for my own travels recently.  I hope I won’t have to use it.

  • http://profiles.google.com/saucywench S E Tammela

    Symptoms are not a diagnosis!!!

  • Anonymous

    What?  Allianz?  That’s the parent company.  They’re the largest insurance company in the world.

    You’ll have to avoid the other companies they own, including Allianz Life, Pacific Investment Management Company, or Fireman’s Fund.

  • Joe Farrell

    Waste of time – every time and everywhere.  Whats so special about the ‘Better Business Bureau?”  Thats so 1950′s as to be laughable today.

  • Joe Farrell

    exactly what is an aunt or an uncle or a cousin?  How far down the list would they go to avoid paying?  My Third cousin on my grandmother-in-law side has diabetes, thus, since a family member had a pre-ex we are not paying your claim? 

    The way their ‘policy’ reads they COULD do that – because it does not state that the REASON for canceling needs to be related to the relative with the pre-ex condition . . . think about that one for a minute. . ..

  • Anonymous

    Joe, all they are doing is defining who is a family member. If that family member gets deathly sick, the insured passenger(s) can claim cancellation or interruption so that they can come home to be with or take care of the sick family member. Of course the sick family member should not have a pre-existing medical condition during the look back period. That’s the catch!

    That’s the reason they denied the OP’s claim for trip cancellation. Her Dad (who was not traveling) got terribly sick but the insurance claimed he had a pre-existing condition so they denied her claim.

  • Anonymous

    I’m a  physician and Access America should have indeed covered this claim. I would not use or recommend anyone use Access America for travel insurance of any type. If they act like this on a legitimate claim they will certainly do the same on others.

  • Anonymous

    The point is that at the time of buying the insurance the client did not know of a diagnosis of cancer. Only after the diagnosis can the doctor then say that the pain was probably due to cancer. Pain is not a diagnosis.

  • Anonymous

    Ok, here is a situation that worries me.  I go on a trip and have a heart attack and have to be evacuated. I have been in good healt up to this heart attack. The doctor says it is caused by atherosclerosis. The insurance company says that a pre-existing condition caused the heart attack.
    WOW- everyone has atherosclerosis to some degree. So no one can buy travel insurance to cover a heart attack on a trip.
    Pre-existing condition should be defined as a medical diagnosis prior to buying insurance not a condition.
    Now you have asthma and the insurance company knows this and you know it. That is a pre-existinig medical diagnosis. Buy insurance that covers it. You could have an allergic reaction on a ship manifested as asthma symptoms and require emergency treatment that pobably wouldn’t be covered though it is not related to your asthma, but presented as bronchospasm from the allergic reaction.

  • summer hathway

    this is so interesting post to read it..

  • Anonymous

    But it does show the person was seeking treatment – and if that is the case within 120 days of the policy purchase, pre-existing conditions apply.  Pretty standard in all policies.

  • Anonymous

    But as long as you had not been treated for the artheriosclerosis within the prior 120 days, no basis for the pre-existing condition in this case – again, standard on the policies.  (I keep track as I KNOW I have a tricky case of asthma, and if I seek treatment, or my meds change 120 days prior, I am screwed without the pre-ex waiver – which is what SHE needed!)

  • Anonymous

    They refer to what is considered a “family member” (not a friend, a pet or neighbor – you’d be surprised how many would jump on that!) you could claim as a cancellation reason (due to thier life-threatening illness or injury).  They don’t mean if a third cousin has diabetes they will deny YOUR health claim – need to learn to read, dude!

  • Anonymous

    I sell travel insurance WITH the waiver to over 90% of my clients – and believe me, I’ve seen them pay out on clients who had to return due to a father’s heart attack, a mother’d failing mental health (caused her hospitalization), lost or delayed baggage, stolen items, etc.  It works if you take the right one, and submit the claim with all the neccessary paperwork (I always help by starting my cleints’s claims, include all neccessary paperwork for them, then just have them fill in the various sections of the claim)

  • http://twitter.com/xrae Rae A

    Some travel insurance policies waive the pre-existing condition clause if you purchase them within a certain number of days of making your first trip deposit (TravelEx offers them, I know). Other insurance policies have only a 60 day look-back clause for pre-existing. This is important to me because my father has a history of heart disease (two bypass surgeries 16 years apart), so I take that into account when buying travel insurance. 

  • http://twitter.com/xrae Rae A

    That sounds great until you have to use it. Friends of mine, senior citizens, took an Alaskan cruise. He had a heart attack in the middle of the cruise, had to be evacuated off the ship in port, then had heart surgery and a couple weeks of convalescence in the hospital in Alaska. Their travel insurance paid for it all, including flying a family member up to assist the couple when it came time to fly home. I don’t know who their policy was through, but my friend said they were very easy to work with. 

  • http://www.bestcarry-onluggage.net Jeremiah Johnson

    Insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies will rip you any way they can. Look at the money they make annually. How many insurance or pharmaceutical companies have you seen go out of business during the downturn in our economy? None I would imagine. They really don’t give a damn about us, they just want our money. When it comes time for them to pay out they try to find the loop holes to prevent having to pay. It should be illegal. 

  • Anonymous

    Did she buy insurance within 14 days of deposit?  If so, pre existing conditions are waived>

  • JessicaKamzik

    Hello everyone,

    I wanted to personally thank you for your support and understanding of the situation. I allowed Chris to write about my particular situation because of the “fine lines” involved with insurance companies — Mondial Assistance especially. For those who were wondering, I bought this travel insurance as a precationary measure — just in case our bags got lost, for example. I was not living with my father, and had absolutely 0 idea that he had been having stomach pain, let alone visiting a doctor. The thing is — my father was 54 years old. The last thing on anyone’s mind was that he would be diagnosed with a terminal illness.

    Sadly, my father passed away at the end of January after having been diagnosed only 6 months before. Mondial Assistance still refused to refund my money — however, kudos to the kind people at Continental Airlines who understood my plight and refunded my tickets in full.

    I wanted to share my story to warn others of giving business to a company as immoral as Mondial Assistance. I understand the need for strict regulation, but there is a fine line between following regulation, and providing INSURANCE to your customers. If an insurance company does not provide insurance, what in the world are they for? 

    Good luck and best wishes to all,
    Jessica