Why won’t Princess refund my sick cruise to nowhere?

Jim Sullivan’s family cruise vacation on the Crown Princess took a turn for the worse when the ship suffered a Norovirus outbreak in February. That’s hardly uncommon; we’ve had seven reported cases this year, according to the Centers for Disease Control. But Sullivan thinks this one was mishandled so badly by Princess that he’s entitled to a refund.

It was supposed to have been a special occasion for his family — perhaps the last real vacation with his father, who is suffering from Alzheimer’s. They wanted a memorable cruise, but not this kind of memorable.

On Feb. 3, his travel agent phoned to say the Crown Princess was returning to port with “many sick passengers” and that there would be a delay in the ship’s departure from Fort Lauderdale because the ship needed to be sanitized. It cast off six hours later than expected.

The scene on the ship was unsettling: Employees wore surgical masks to prevent infection and served buffet meals with latex gloves. Biohazard bags were “strewn” throughout the ship. And the captain made numerous announcements requesting “diarrhea and vomit samples” from infected passengers.

Sullivan says the Crown Princess skipped the first port of call in the Bahamas because of its late departure, and on Feb. 7, the day they were supposed to arrive in Curacao, the captain announced the ship was “still infected” and that they were canceling the rest of the cruise. Princess refunded his cruise fare (but not his tips and incidents) and booked his family’s flights home. He considers that to be only a partial refund. (I updated this paragraph to clarify what he means by “partial refund.”)

But not before his brother-in-law got sick.

“This cruise should never have left Fort Lauderdale,” he says. “If they had canceled the cruise before we departed, it would have been less stressful than what we experienced on this ship for 4 1/2 days with nothing to do — we didn’t reach one port of call. We would have gladly rebooked for another cruise.”

Requests for a full refund from Princess and a claim with his travel insurance company were rejected. The policy didn’t cover outbreaks as a trip interruption, which technically, this would have been. In a letter sent to Sullivan, a Princess representative said his situation had been “properly” addressed and that “no further refund or compensation will be forthcoming” from the company.

Princess is right. According to its passage contract, it could sail out into the middle of the ocean with a ship filled with Ebola patients, and it would still be fulfilling its contract. But that doesn’t mean it’s right.

On the other hand, Sullivan’s request for a full refund, including all incidentals and airfare, may be too rich. There must be some middle ground. But apparently we are not going to find it on this grievance.

I thought I would ask Princess to review this case one more time, to see if it would consider helping Sullivan recover part of the cost of his vacation. It didn’t respond to him or to me, and I now have no choice but to put this into the “case dismissed” file.

  • twres

     You suppose incorrectly.  But you are comparing apples to oranges.  I expect an airline to get me from point A to point B if that is what I paid for.  It is widely known though that flight delays happen for many reasons, but I will get to my destination whether sooner or later.  However, if I book a cruise to take me to say the Bahamas, I expect to be taken there – not floated out into the ocean then turned around after a few days having not gotten anywhere.  That does not fulfill the package I purchased, and this is where I think the passenger deserves compensation for not getting the vacation purchased.

    I guess I should reinforce that my comments only are directed at the story in this article, not any disaster that could possibly happen ever.

  • bodega3

    But that package you took, in the T&C states that they can change ports of call.  By making the payment on that cruise, you are accepting this possibility.  It doesn’t happen all the time, but it does happen where the ports of call get changed for various reasons.  They will not do this willy nilly as it does cost them in a variety of ways.

  • bodega3

    If my client pays for something they don’t get, you can bet your britches I go to bat for them.  I stand by what I sell and provide a service.  Always have. 

  • bodega3

    Exactly!

  • Mel65

     Awesome to know! …I can now go back to being focused on my irrational fear of falling overboard :)

  • TonyA_says

    So what are we gonna do? Find the culprit who brought the bug onboard and lynch him/her? Why is this the fault of the cruise line if a sick person went on board and infected everyone? They did not promise anyone paradise, did they? I read the article Bodega gave us a link to. IMO the cruise line went above and beyond (and that you are hearing from me – a very skeptical cruise critic).

  • MarkieA

    That is a lucid, intelligent, and well-thought out objection Mr. Young. Denied!

  • TonyA_says

    Guess what, the captain was correct. He had to collect stool and vomitus as specimen samples. Read the CDC instructions for specimen collection -
    http://www.cdc.gov/norovirus/lab-testing/collection.html

  • Michael__K

    Okay, so sometimes you feel entitled to more than what’s contractually obligated.

  • Michael__K

    I responded to your question, which was why would anyone cruise if:

    According to its passage contract, it could sail out into the middle of the ocean with a ship filled with Ebola patients, and it would still be fulfilling its contract.

    I’m dumbfounded by this particular case.  The media reports suggest that the cruise line indeed went above and beyond, offering full refunds and more, but yet the title of this article is “Why won’t Princess refund my sick cruise to nowhere?”

  • Lindabator

    HAHA – just sit back and relax – you’ll find Alaska to be an amazing place – probably one of my favorite cruises!

  • Lindabator

    Yep – you approach it like a business transaction, you get a lot farther.  :)

  • Lindabator

    Exactly – but because of people like this who feel they ARE guaranteed, they make it clear they NEVER are – its the only way they have the ability to be flexible when the circumstances call for it – been on over 50 cruises, most cruise lines, only had minor changes twice due to weather, and one due to illness.  C’est la vie!

  • Lindabator

    Amen – but don’t bother – he just likes to ruffle your feathers, hon.

  • judyserienagy

    What a disaster!  I thought Princess was considered an upscale cruise line.  I would expect this kind of situation on a el-cheapo cruise, maybe.   This story reads like a case history on how not to do things.  I hope the people making the decisions have been summarily fired and everyone else re-trained.  DavidYoung (below) has stated my opinion very eloquently.

  • tomz2001

    the same thing happened to us. on holland american.we finally got sick on the last 2 days.it was so bad during the cruise…the captain would not shake hands..you could however touch is sleeve!! how nice of him!!in retrospect..a 6 hour clean up …screams of disaster…if i had it to do again.i would have..called a cab and gone home we had cruise insurance …why we stayed..i’ll never know… we’re done “cruzn” for quite a while.12th of never perhaps  tom

  • http://twitter.com/BlkChickOnTour Terri Lundberg

    Wow.  Incredible.  Reads like a nightmare. However, you state, “Princess refunded his cruise fare (but not his tips and incidents) and booked his family’s flights home.”  I think that seems fair.  Maybe they could have refunded his airfare to arrive in the departure port.  However, a refund for tips and incidentals?  I don’t think so.  First of all…he didn’t need to tip.  And, if  the person did their job (ie waiters, room attendents, etc) then why not tip them?  In regards to incidentals, well…he just has to get over that.  If he was at home, he still would have spent money on “incidentals”  (coffee, snacks, etc.)

    I think Princess is foul though.  Because they knew (at least a few days) in advance of that ship pulling into port that they had an outbreak and that it would affect the new group coming aboard.  To not inform them days ahead of time just seems shady.

  • http://twitter.com/BlkChickOnTour Terri Lundberg

    “Then why do many people still insist in cruising if the contract is supposed to be quite “onerous”?”  Because people do it all the time.  For example, have you read your cell phone contract?

  • TonyA_says

     No. I barely use my cell phone since I find it very disturbing.

  • Jen

    No, “special’,” isn’t punctuated correctly.

  • Jen

    No, “special’,” isn’t punctuated correctly.