United Airlines promised me two first class tickets — where are they?

Dude, where are my first-class tickets? / Photo - Tipek US Air
In the customer service world, a first-class, roundtrip ticket anywhere the airline flies is the ultimate mea culpa — an airline’s way of saying, “We’re really sorry.”

And United Airlines promised Charles Rosenthal and his girlfriend two of them after canceling their flight from Palm Springs, Calif., to Los Angeles recently. But the tickets never arrived, and my inquiries to United have had disappointing results. Do I need to push harder, or let this one go?

Here are a few details. The couple was scheduled to fly back to Portland from Palm Springs on April 23. The first leg of their flight, from Palm Springs to Los Angeles, was United flight 6477, which was operated by United Express and SkyWest.

“When we arrived at the airport, we were informed by the SkyWest representative behind the counter that our flight to Los Angeles did not exist,” he says. “When we asked for clarification, she was unable to give us any. We then asked why we had received no prior notification of such a schedule change. Instead of reconciling the situation, the arrogant service representative blamed us for ‘not checking the flight status prior to departing for the airport.’”

Rosenthal says he politely asked for a supervisor, but none was available.

“Totally baffled, we explained to the representative that we are a working couple and cannot afford to miss another day of work, let alone another night in an expensive Palm Springs hotel,” he says.

The SkyWest representative said she could reroute them through Denver, but with a 20-minute stopover. They’d probably miss their connection to Portland and spend the night in Denver. Rosenthal and his girlfriend chose to remain in Palm Springs for the evening and fly to Portland the next day.

“Upon asking the representative if she could offer us any vouchers for a hotel and food, she informed us that she did not have the authority to issue vouchers, and that we should contact United Airlines directly,” he says. “Not only were we stranded, left to jump through hoops, but were also forced to foot the bill for our food and lodging for an extra 24 hours in Palm Springs. This was not cheap, to say the least.”

So he phoned United and explained what happened. A sympathetic representative named Rochelle helped him.

Rochelle explained that she could not comp our considerable food and lodging costs, but that she could give us “two, transferable, first-class international or domestic ticket vouchers to anywhere United flies.”

She then clarified that the vouchers are “good for a round-trip flight.” After several minutes of clarification, she had me convinced that the vouchers were legitimate. While she could not send me an email confirmation, she gave me the PIN numbers (982AF78 and 698K194) for each of the vouchers and assured me that they would be mailed to my home address.

Content that United Airlines Customer Service had handled the situation with grace and dignity, I said goodbye to Rochelle.

Let me add one small observation to this. I’ve been mediating airline cases for a long time, and I’ve heard about the mythical first-class tickets “anywhere the airline flies” but I’ve never actually seen an airline come through with it. I’m sure it happens, but never to one of my cases. Not once.

And wouldn’t you know it, those vouchers never showed up. So Rosenthal called again.

“I was utterly astounded when she told me that each voucher was only good for $100 towards a United Airlines domestic flight,” he says. “$200 in domestic flight vouchers? We had been duped. Not only were we lied to and taken advantage of, but the $200 in vouchers wasn’t even enough to cover our extra night in a Palm Springs hotel, let alone food costs and the missed opportunity cost of not being able to attend work on April 24. What a slap in the face!”

That didn’t sound right to me. If, as Rosenthal says, United canceled his flight, it should have covered his overnight accommodations in Palm Springs and issued meal vouchers. If it simply rescheduled the flight for another time, then technically he missed the flight and would be entitled to nothing.

I asked United Airlines to look into his case. A few days later, Rosenthal sent me the following update:

Today, I received an automated form letter via email from United which entitled myself and my travel partner to a further $150 in flight vouchers. This brings the issued grand total of vouchers to $800 ($100+$150+$150=$400 per person).

This falls far short of their promise and the amount of money we lost from the flight bump (not to mention the legal required amount of compensation for an involuntary flight bump.) I replied to the email to let them know that I could not accept the vouchers unless they met their promised amount of compensation.

How do you recommend I proceed? They are clearly not taking my complaints seriously.

I guess I have two options: To push for more compensation or to let this one go. I’m not sure how to proceed.

I know there are other advocates out there in the journalism world that would call United and tell it what to do. I actually saw that happen once with this airline and another newspaper reporter. That’s not how I operate.

I’d be interested in hearing the call center recording. If Rosenthal is correct, then he’s entitled to the first-class vouchers. If not, and if it turns out that United just rescheduled his flight, then he’s already received more than he deserves.

  • Michael__K

    14 minutes vs. 20 minutes doesn’t sound like a smoking gun to me.

    Assuming the journey outbound from PDX was even on the same itinerary, what makes you so confident that the passengers would have noticed something amiss when they checked in either at home or at PDX?

    I doubt I would look closely at the entire itinerary and notice a discrepancy unless there was something that blocked me from selecting “Print Boarding Passes” until I acknowledged a prominent notice.

    Also, why would they have the flight # (6477) and why would the agent accomodate them without charging a fare difference and why would UA even offer them vouchers if they weren’t actually booked on the “non-existent” flight?
     

  • TonyA_says

    Under DOT rules, you need to get BUMPED to get IDB compensation. Please read the rules since you are not interpreting it correctly.

  • TonyA_says

    The 20 minutes is NOT an issue. That is a distraction since he never had a chance to make it to PDX via DEN. The only reason why we are discussing that flight is because it was still on the ground since it was late. Otherwise, it would have been in the air before the OP checked in PSP.

    The last flight for PSP-LAX-PDX was at 624PM. UA6445/UA6221. This would have been the likely target of the OP (if his itinerary had changed earlier). So ask  yourself this question – why wasn’t this flight discussed by the OP at all ??? It departs later than the 550PM flight to DEN. The possible reason — he missed it.

    To answer your question why he was reaccommodated at PSP (and not charged a higher fare difference) — because the Skywest airport agents were nice to him. Airport agents have the power to revalidate your ticket.

    Lesson learned in this story is check your itinerary as there could be flight schedule changes. It happens a lot of times so get used to it.

  • TonyA_says

    Really? I suggest you read the rules [in the USA].   http://airconsumer.dot.gov/publications/flyrights.htm#delayed
    The first sentence is …
    Airlines don’t guarantee their schedules, and you should realize this when planning your trip.

  • Michael__K

    Ok, I think I see your point– if they thought they were on a 7:16pm flight and they didn’t get on the 6:24pm flight (which left at 6:41pm that day)  then it still suggests they might have cut the 30 minute checkin window for small airports very tight, even for their expected departure time.

    That’s a perfectly plausible scenario, but I’m not sure we can rule out the possibilities that:

    (a) the version of UA6477 they were originally booked on was scheduled to depart later than 7:16pm.

    or 

    (b) they tried to checkin 45 to 75 minutes in advance of an anticipated 7:16pm flight, but at that point the 6:24pm flight was no longer available to them (in which case the agent may have purposely not even bothered to mention the 6:24 flight since all that might accomplish is to make the passengers more upset).

  • Lindabator

    Strange – United 6477 is a flight which operates Phoenix to San Francisco then San Francisco to Redmond OR.  Seems this might have been a schedule change, and she missed the outbound flight?  I worked for years for United, and a Palm Springs-LA missed connection/forced stay would NEVER hae prompted a free first class ticket domestic OR INTERNATIONAL.  Would LOVE to hear the full story on this one, ’cause something’s fishy here.

  • TonyA_says

    The most plausible (and simple) scenario is they did not check their [new] itinerary and assumed UA6477 was still operating (departing) at ~716PM. They got to the airport about an hour earlier (slightly past 6PM) and they were told they were too late for [the last flight] UA6445 which was scheduled to depart 624PM for LAX. Since the DEN flight (UA5653) was late and was rescheduled past 7PM, then that came into the discussion – be it futile one. They were reaccommodated for the next day’s flight (without penalty – tickets simply revalidated).

    They came home pissed about missing a day’s work and spending more money for one more night at PSP. So they tried to recover some funds from the airline. I don’t believe the system-wide free pass they supposedly were promised over the phone. Technically, they were not bumped so UA does not owe them anything.

    Here’s my experience on similar cases. Unless you check your itinerary (or you have a great TA who will call you for every change in your itinerary), you won’t know the changes. It’s very easy for email to get deleted or neglected. Always print the latest itinerary before you depart for your flight.

    If I have to make a guess, UA6477 was still on the schedule when they bought their flight. But it was cancelled well in advance and they did not see the notification (all though most likely sent by the airline). I always get flight changes (including United’s) in my GDS queue so it’s hard for me to point a finger at United. I think email is not close to 100% foolproof.

  • Lindabator

    Amen – they have to provide a plane?  SERIOUSLY?

  • Lindabator

    I would LOVE to hear that recording.  To anywhere domestic OR INTERNATIONAL?  For a PSP-LAX missed flight?  Seriously?  See my post above about the flight numbers and routing – don’t think we’re getting the full story (or a correct one) here.  Very strange.

  • Lindabator

    two points here – if they were sending out vouchers, there is no record to EMAIL – and the res agents have no email to send from, just generate one from the system.  So no booking, no generation.  Secondly, though, is the fact that that flight number is a route from Phoenix to San Francisco then on to Redmond OR.  NOT Palm Springs to LA.  So it could have been a schedule change as a flight was cancelled.  I would LOVE to get more info on this.  Its just a very strange situation altogether. 

  • Lindabator

    But a changed flight is a booked PNR, so they can send that.  It is an actual booking that can be emailed from the res generator.  Unfortunatley, agents do not have email addresses to send out general info – they can only send hard copy reservations, and any changes, or upgrades, made from those.  (Stinks, but that’s the way it works, unfortunately)

  • flutiefan

    not quite sure what your point is…
    but if you want the airline to contact you, you must provide legit contact info. that’s all i’m saying.

  • Lindabator

    True, but most folks do not realize that.  I’m more concerned that when you input 1677 you find the routing is Phoenix to San Francisco and then on to Redmond OR.  So OBVIOUSLY, if this was booked, it was a schedule change.  If UA sent the change by email and they ignored, or it went to spam, they never got it, and then NEVER bothered to re-confirm.  I ALWAYS reconfirm flights, both for my clients and myself.  You and I both know (especially with this merger) how many flights have changed, and the fact they never bothered to check worries me.  And having worked at UA, I can tell you we would NEVER have offered free 1st class to anywhere domestic OR INTERNATIONAL for a PSP-LAX misconnect.  I’d really love more info on this, as it smells fishy overall.

  • Lindabator

    It was probably a schedule change, so the fact they did not reconfirm the flight was operating does not MAKE it denied boarding, but just foolishness, which the airlines are not required to really do anything for.  The compensation they received was generous under the circumstances.

  • Lindabator

    Yep – the routing is completely different for weekday travel, as I said above.  I do believe they probably had a schedule change, never got it (could be the airlines fault or theirs), and never reconfirmed the flight, so didn’t know.

  • jennj99738

     Huh?  “have away from their particular large moose.”  Ha.  Sounds like a Babelfish translation from a spammer. 

  • Lindabator

    True – I worked for United in the past (no, not a call center “monkey” but special services), and if we compensated, it was of comparable value, and never in a million years would we have offered free 1st class tickets to anywhere domestic or INTERNATIONAL (consider the fact most is not even on UA metal), for a simple PSP-LAX missed flight.  Something is very fishy here.

  • Lindabator

    Me, too!!!

  • Michael__K

    We’re on the same page.  And that’s good advice– I could easily myself missing a notification.  I’ve seen a 24 hour checkin reminder or two routed to Spam.

  • sershev

     New UA is old CO: same senior management, same website, same customer care department, same livery. I am on the phone with their customer care right now and the person I am talking to keeps saying “one pass, one pass”

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=539650932 Tina Bellamy

    I voted YES, if only to hear the recorded conversation between the OP and United. However, I wonder if there is an email reservation confirm from when the OP purchased the tickets with the itinerary code on it. Most airlines have this to make it easier to track the reservation. Merger or not, there should be something to uphold the claim that there was that flight scheduled for that day.

  • pauletteb

    I used to write/edit sales and customer service newsletters, and your assessment of training reps in stalling tactics is spot on.

  • Joe Farrell

    Flightaware.com is a great resource. . . .

    SKW6477 operated PSP-LAX on 22 April – NOT 23 April.  Could it be as simple as our OP got the date wrong?  

    Moreover – it would have arrived at LAX too late to make pretty much any connections other than the red-eyes to the east coast hubs- which apparently is the reason for this flight in the first place.  

    So – I say again – SEND CHRIS THE WRITTEN ITINERARY.  And send him the PNR so our erstwhile travel agents can pull it up and look at it  

  • Joe Farrell

    you just need to go to Flightaware.com

    put in SKW6477 in the flight number box

    get the free 4 month history for the flight and you will see a PSP-LAX operation on 22 April . . .

  • Lindabator

    Too bad they were flying on 23 APRIL – when this was NOT the route the flight took.

  • TonyA_says

    Yes FlightAware and FlightStats are a great resource. FlightStats even gives you more information (such as Events).

    When Chris mentioned Portland, I assumed PDX (Oregon) and not Portland, Maine (PWM).

    Whenever I see a case posted here, I try to investigate and recreate it to see if the facts match with the complaint. This one is way off base.

  • Joe Farrell

    How do we know that he did not BUY a ticket with a PSP-LAX flight 22APR and an overnight @ LAX and a 6AM departure to PDX on the 23rd???  And they screwed up the time?   I’ve SEEN those crazy connections offered for sale sometimes on the online ‘travel stores . . . ‘

    And Tony- he said Oregon, so its PDX not PWM.  

  • TonyA_says

    possible, yes. in that case he checked in the wrong day. one day late.

  • Ifly4free

    Good luck with getting a hold of the United call center recording of the conversation. I used to work there and unless they have upgraded their system the recordings don’t really exsist. Like you I have NEVER heard of anyone who works for the airline offering two round trip first class tickets anywhere United flies for some type of disservice. Also if they get a combination of vouchers make sure they are combinable. More often than not only one voucher can be applied to each purchase. I would ask to turn in all the vouchers and get one big voucher per person.The “new” United is really no better than the old United.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Scott-Kopper/1081577657 Scott Kopper

    What happened to the flight they were booked on?

    First class – I don’t believe it unless they had purchased first class tickets in the first place.

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  • kanehi

    “While she could not send me an email confirmation, she gave me the PIN numbers (982AF78 and 698K194) for each of the vouchers and assured me that they would be mailed to my home address.”

    Why not work with these PIN numbers?  IF they are non-existent they they’ve been screwed.  Weird about without the email confirmation.