New tipping traps you need to know about now

When it comes to tipping, beware of the words: “for your convenience.”

If you see them on your final bill, you might want to take a closer look. While you’re at it, whip out your calculator to run your own numbers.

Take room service, for example. Daniel Weisleder, a consultant based in Houston, stays at many reputable hotels, and he’s noticed that his bills have begun to look the same.

“They innocently leave the ‘tip’ line open, hoping that you won’t notice the already included 18 percent gratuity, plus the additional $3 to $4 room service fee or tray charge.

As a result, absent-minded guests will often add a tip on top of the tip, effectively tipping 40 percent or more.

Tricky, huh?

“I find that asking for extra tip, as if these charges didn’t exist, is unethical and deceiving,” he says.

So do I.

But hotels aren’t alone. Restaurants are adding tips to their final bills, too. Mark Weisberg, an engineer, had dinner at a Greek restaurant in Houston recently.

“When the time arrived to present and pay the bill I reached for my wallet to extract my credit card,” he says. “The waiter removed a small device from his belt designed to scan the credit card, authorize use for payment through a touch screen and print a small receipt at my table. It was very impressive.”

Not so impressive was that it added — for his “convenience “– on-screen prompts for gratuities at 15 percent, 18 percent and 20 percent.

“These percentages are not unusual — except that the initial bill calculated lower numbers for the same percentages — based on the pre-tax food and drink balance instead of the displayed post-tax gratuity percentages,” he told me. “The difference is only a penny or two higher per dollar spent, but it is the principle of misrepresenting the source of these numbers.”

Over time, a penny or two could really add up to a business that does a lot of transactions. But maybe more troubling, a system like this could easily be manipulated to pull the old room service trick.

Disclosure: I’m a terrible tipper. (And by terrible tipper, I mean that I’m awful at accurately adding 20 percent to my bill between the time the check is delivered and I’m asked to pay.)

What’s more, I think the stress of having to add a tip should be unnecessary. I believe prices should include everything, whether you’re ordering lunch, a drink at the bar or taking a guided excursion. A tip should be for good service, not something that is expected or required. And no business should ever try to fool customers into paying more than they think they are, when it comes to a gratuity.

Travelers aren’t the only victims. Service employees, who agree to substandard wages in exchange for the possibility of a tip (what choice do they have?) are also affected by the tipping scam. I blame business owners, who are trying to keep their costs down, for perpetuating this problem — and now, for making it worse by trying to bilk even more out of their customers.

How do you avoid tipping trouble?

Watch for words like “for your convenience” which usually means they’ve done some funny math. Here’s an example from Weisleder, who nearly forked over a 60 percent tip on a recent room service bill at a Hilton hotel. Let’s look at the numbers.

Club Sandwich: $13.99
Diet Coke: $ 2.99
Subtototal: $16.98
18% included tip: $3.06
Room-Service charge: $3.50
Your bill: $23.54

Premium you’re already paying for your food (without taxes): 39%

Additional tip you leave: $3.53

Total premium paid: $10.09 (that’s 59% on top of the price advertised on the menu.)

Another tip (sorry, couldn’t resist) is to run the numbers yourself. I always flip over to the WorldMate app on my iPhone, which offers a pretty decent tip calculator, and do my own math. It takes a few extra seconds, but it ensures you’re not allowing yourself to be ripped off.

The best solution is for hotels and restaurants to charge “all in” prices for their products. But that’s unlikely to happen anytime soon.

  • http://www.facebook.com/michael.d.furness Michael D Furness

    ALWAYS fill out the whole thing. Your copy too (if applicable). The server writing more in and changing the total is fraud. And should be dealt with as such. Call the card company and let them have there way. Then don’t go back.

  • http://www.facebook.com/michael.d.furness Michael D Furness

    The manager must have dropped a brick in his pants when he saw you used the credit for that.

  • agaace

    Oh I wish USA was anything like Europe – consumer friendly. When I first moved here 3 years ago I was confused most of the time: no sales tax added to the price means I never know how much I’m gonna spend, esp. when traveling and different places have different sales tax! If all I have is $5 in my pocket, will I be able to afford a $4.49 sandwich or not? USA is ridiculous.
    Same goes to tipping. Why not just include everything in the price? After all, I will need to spend those $40 on a meal, so why does the menu lie to me and says $30, it it’s not true? If you eat out a lot, that means you *think* you spend $600/month on eating out, where in real you spend $800.
    Oh, and in USA *everything* is tipped. Waiter, hair stylist, taxi driver, valet parking, and God knows who else. Soon I will be required to tip a cop giving me a speeding ticket. Sometimes, when I’m not sure if I have to tip or not, I resign and not use the service altogether. It’s just too embarrassing, and if you’re not sure, and ask, they will *always* suggest you should give a tip, even if it’s a freaking grocery shop.

  • Maegan Bell

    I think people should stop tipping altogether.
    Restaurants should actually pay their employees well and not leave it to the customer to make up for their lacking financial ethics. Many other countries in the world DO NOT encourage tipping of the servers, and some waiters would even get offended when you do. The restaurants I have been to in those countries did not have poor service. In fact, it was better than most US dining experiences I’ve had. Tipping has become a given in the US and I think that is a problem. Even when a server does a poor job they expect to be tipped. I just think its an outdated and ridiculous ritual we as a society have come to require of restaurant-goers.

  • Megan Meyer

    Is everyone in this discussion aware that most waitstaff are paid *less than minimum wage*?

    Tipping poorly for the reason you stated above is like kicking your dog when it’s your who child misbehaves. Please be mindful of who exactly will suffer from this type of article.

  • agaace

    There’s a simpler solution: restaurant can enable you to provide feedback on service. There’s no tip, just fixed price, and if you don’t receive good service, you complain. This waiter will get fired if this continues. If the service was exceptionally bad, and you make drama out of it, the restaurant has always an option to give you a free meal or something like that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/michael.d.furness Michael D Furness

    I worked in restaurants for almost a decade, mostly in the kitchen. At a hotel we got nothing even though there were 5 busy banquet rooms etc. At a few smaller places the servers tipped out 10% of what they got. Day over day it wasn’t much but it was better than nothing.
    I would have preferred to have made a living wage but such is Canada where tipping still reigns.
    People shouldn’t be counting on on tips to survive, they are an extra. If the wage isn’t enough don’t take the job. As it turns out our parents were right and we should have stayed in school.
    I was at a “trendy” bar once, the bartender threw the .25 in the rail assuming it was a tip. I made the bartender pick the quarter out. Snotty bastard would have gotten it but i figured some humility would do him good. The service there was deplorable at best.
    If the service somewhere sucks or they try to scam every last penny out of you, just don’t go back. It’s that easy. There’s a chain here which I really like but the one just has bad service so I just don’t go to that one.

  • agaace

    I’m just waiting the day when I’m expected to tip a cop who gives me a speeding ticket! :)

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  • http://twitter.com/MohawkMike13 Michael Horney

    only a percentage of the delivery charge goes to the driver at big name places like Dominos which usually add $2 per order. So often people think they’ve already paid the driver $2 when actually the driver only gets some of that money to cover fuel. This leaves the driver at a loss because the only real reason to deliver pizza is for the added income that tips provide.

  • agaace

    Yeah but sometimes you travel abroad a lot and never know 100% what the local culture is. Yeah, you should prepare yourself, read a guide or sth, but who has time for it if sometimes you travel on almost every weekend.

  • agaace

    I had a lot of Brazilian friends at work, and we had potlucks, and they used to bring delicious Brazilian food. Also used to bring homemade food to work. Never heard of those “dishonorable” thing. Honestly, never heard it would be dishonorable to offer food to someone in any existing culture in the world.

  • Michael Strom

    What gets me is the services where “service” is not a part of the product delivered by the person receiving a tip. I include room service and taxis here. They have one function, to get food or people from A to B. Why do we tip these positions?

    As a former server, bartender, room service attendant, pizza delivery driver and manager of all of the above. The service charge goes to the server in every circumstance I have worked. If they pool tips/charges, that’s their problem, work elsewhere. Also, remember, that they often pay a portion (2-10%) of their tip to the staff who supports their delivery of a service.

  • http://www.facebook.com/sgt.fb Steph Thomas

    Don Nadeau…1. Why didn’t the UNIONS get together and fight the government interfering with ‘tips’ ? (Guess the only thing they’re REALLY good for is lining their own pockets). 2. Why do ‘service’ people find it acceptable to work for such low wages? 3. It’s disgusting SLAVERY.

    Tips are for exemplary SERVICE… and belong to the one who serviced. No one else. It’s up to you to recognize that you are NOT ‘powerless’ (as you put it)… so stop running a ‘poor me’ and help get you all together to fight back.

    signed,
    An ex Catskills waitress of the 50′s

  • http://www.facebook.com/travis.guthman Travis Guthman

    OK – I’ve read quite a few comments, think I’ll chip in. I am one of the owners of a restaurant that employs tipped waitstaff and delivery drivers. I’ve waited tables and delivered food in the past, so I get it. In our restaurant, we pay all tipped employees full minimum wage (8.25 hr) plus the tips they earn. A few get paid more. A lot of restaurant folks on my side of the buisiness think I’m nuts and throwing money away. Not so. We have very low turn over and very high guest satisfaction. We’re not perfect, but we’ve got one hell of a great team and I’m blessed to pay them more than industry standards.

  • Peacock214

    At those “foo-foo” restaurants, the server is held accountable for the overall experience of the evening: from establishing a rapport with the host; to knowing the minute details about the menu, ingredients, and wine list; and ensuring that none of the guests ever want for anything. Just because you don’t see the server running around all over the place doesn’t mean that he or she is doing any less work.

  • ZPHBBX

    And why isn’t it your place to help solve a problem in the society that provides you with so much?

  • HeyItsK

    I think in many places where a tip line is on the bill, that it is laziness on the part of the company not changing the default presets from the credit card processing company.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HMW3OTJSBDWWRKIEKEKWWM7BEA bc

    I actually never heard from their even coordinator after that but I was hoping for that exact reaction. You wouldn’t believe what I had to go through with them to get them to carry forward the balance from the other event. I wasn’t going to let a penny of it go to waste!

  • LeeAnneClark

    Dude, I’m not a social activist dedicated to solving the problems of low-wage workers in the food service business. I’m a traveler with a family, places to go, a life to lead. I do my part to help society by working, paying taxes, and being a consumer to put money back in the economy. I have neither the time nor the inclination to solve all the problems of all the unfortunate people in the world.

    Society has tons of problems. I have my own hot-button issues that I fight for and donate my time and money to. Pay disparities among restaurant employees is not one of them. But if that’s one of yours, more power to ya, and good luck in your efforts.

  • ed flumnum

    that’s a great story??? i’m not surprised that poor service runs in your family. sounds like you get what you deserve (and what you pay for).

  • ed flumnum

    send an even stronger message and stay home

  • LeeAnneClark

    So I take it that you are perfectly fine paying for poor service? Sorry but I’m not an sheeple who pays for something I didn’t get.

    Yes, it’s a great story of somebody standing up for himself and now allowing “customary norms” to goad him into giving somebody money he didn’t deserve. I didn’t go into all the details of how bad the service was – the story he told us was, of course, more detailed. I figured that saying that the service was horrendous was enough for most intelligent people to comprehend that it wasn’t worthy of a tip.

    But if you’re fine handing out your hard-earned money to people who did nothing to deserve it, go for it. Some of us prefer to not get shafted.

  • LeeAnneClark

    So I take it that you are perfectly fine paying for poor service? Sorry but I’m not an sheeple who pays for something I didn’t get.

    Yes, it’s a great story of somebody standing up for himself and now allowing “customary norms” to goad him into giving somebody money he didn’t deserve. I didn’t go into all the details of how bad the service was – the story he told us was, of course, more detailed. I figured that saying that the service was horrendous was enough for most intelligent people to comprehend that it wasn’t worthy of a tip.

    But if you’re fine handing out your hard-earned money to people who did nothing to deserve it, go for it. Some of us prefer to not get shafted.

  • LeeAnneClark

    They did…they never went to that restaurant again. Sounds like a pretty good message was sent…and hopefully received. One can hope that the bad waiter might have learned his lesson: intelligent people don’t pay for bad service. You want tips, you have to earn them.

  • LeeAnneClark

    They did…they never went to that restaurant again. Sounds like a pretty good message was sent…and hopefully received. One can hope that the bad waiter might have learned his lesson: intelligent people don’t pay for bad service. You want tips, you have to earn them.

  • Amy Schmidt

    Easy fix for the math-challenged who get poor service: just round up to the nearest dollar. Clear message that the service sucked and easy on your brain cells.

  • ed flumnum

    i’m not fine with poor service AND i’m not a “dopey sheeple” (whatever that is). your father gets poor service + you get poor service = poor service runs in your family. and that comes as no surprise. we reap what we sow. your abject misery is apparent in the fact that you feel compelled to share this story (and frankly in all of your comments). miserable people attract misery and then tell everybody. i can picture a bunch of pretentious oafs sitting around yucking it up and laughing about this story. it’s not a great story. it’s not even a good story. Rosa Parks not moving to the back of the bus is a great story about somebody standing up for themselves. Your father stiffing a waiter is not. do your children a favor, stop with the story. if you’re lucky it’s not too late for the next generation.

  • ed flumnum

    perfect!

  • LeeAnneClark

    This rude, insulting comment is not worthy of a response. Apparently you lack the ability to hold a discussion without descending into bizarre, meaningless ad-hominem personal attacks. There is no place for such juvenile behavior on this forum.

    Comment Reported.

  • LeeAnneClark

    By the way, please do share what restaurant you are a waiter at. I want to ensure I don’t go there.

  • Ryan

    I sell $20k+ point-of-sale (“cash register”) systems and I have to say that you have it backwards. Most table service restaurants in my corner of the US use “server banking”, where the servers carry their own cash “bank”. They close their own checks and make their own change. This provides cash accountability, versus everyone having their hands in a shared cash drawer.

    Sounds to me like the server in question either:
    1. Was trying to boost tips
    2. Was too lazy/busy to break a $1 bill wih the bartender, fellow server, or manager

  • Ryan

    …perhaps you mean the Department of Labor? The IRS doesn’t determine minimum wages.

    How is it the customer’s fault that the “waiter” doesn’t live in a civilized country? Why is it the consumer’s job to be concerned with how much the server makes?

    I’m just a guy taking his family to dinner, not a tipped employee minimum wage activist.

    If the “waiter” has a problem with tipping, he should take it up with the Dept. of Labor. Or find a new line of (non-tipped) work… Just sayin’.

  • Ryan

    Agreed, as well as the server having the ability to keep the customer informed and to alert management. I don’t know how many times I’ve sat waiting and wondering where my food was. The server is there to help provide a good customer experience, which includes helping smooth over the inevitable issues and letting a manager know when they can’t.

  • Raven_Altosk

    Sit down and let the grown-ups talk, pal.

  • http://www.facebook.com/CarverFarrow Carver Clark Farrow

    I”m very surprised. I would expect that the police would consider it a civil matter, especially if everything except the tip was paid.

  • Rosered7033

    At last – an employer who “gets it”! Integrity!

  • Rosered7033

    Personal experience, those servers may never see that bill, nor know how much the tip actually was. They were more than likely told prior to the event they would “likely” receive a certain sum from the event, and any overage the Marriott “absorbed”. Hope it wasn’t true in your case, but you can’t know.

  • ed flumnum

    i am already sitting down and i’m not your pal. shame on me for letting you both engage me in this nonsense so this will be it for me. i stand by my words. the point is that it is nothing to boast about. it’s not cute, it’s not funny, it’s not any of the things that you claim. it is a classless act. even worse is to make it a multi generational family story. sorry. i’ll leave it at that. leeann don’t worry about where i am a waiter. we don’t serve lame and flavorless processed industrial food.

  • emanon256

    You assume wrong. I delivered Pizza for 2 years and never got the “Delivery Charge.” I got minimum wage + tips.

  • TexanPatriot1

    Tipping is a big scam anyway. If nobody tips, then the establishment must still pay them at least the minimum wage. I call tips a way to hide revenues and drive down their tax bills.

  • TexanPatriot1

    I don’t pay for mediocre service. I zero tipped a server this last weekend, because he kept screwing up. I don’t lose any sleep over it. Chances are he won’t last long in the job anyway.