“This ruined what was to be a joyous day”

Gerald Zekas’ youngest daughter, Caryn, wanted a destination wedding in Las Vegas, but right about now, he probably wishes she’d stayed home. Their special vacation was riddled with bad customer service experiences from start to finish — and worse, no one has bothered to acknowledge a single one of them.

But his vacation horror story is more than a case study in hospitality gone awry. It’s a valuable lesson in how to complain effectively.

Here’s what happened to Zekas, in his own words:

Extra fees. “We were victims of a la carte fees when we booked a package through Southwest that included airfare, a four-night stay at the Mirage and a rental car from Alamo. The airfare was without additional fees, but we incurred ‘resort fees’ at the Mirage and exorbitant extra fees at Alamo. Based on the gruff treatment by the Alamo counter agent I do not plan to ever again use Alamo. When the agent asked me whether I would be paying for their insurance, and I informed him that I felt my USAA car insurance was adequate, he aggressively pursued the sale by saying that Nevada state law would hold me personally liable for a list of items spelled out on a sheet he handed me. It was definitely a hard-sell tactic, which I did not experience in my previous vacation in Las Vegas a couple of years ago. When I mentioned that this was not explained to me during my last visit, he ignored my comment and continued with his hard sell until I finally gave in.

Bad food. “Another example of poor customer service is our dining experience at the Bellagio Buffet. We were quite impressed with the ambiance at the Bellagio and decided to treat ourselves to dinner there at the end of our stay. On our way in, we met a couple exiting and spoke briefly to them about whether they enjoyed their meal. They were very displeased, but explained that it was the end of the lunch serving and that dinner was just starting and we would most likely have a different experience. We debated for a few minutes whether to dine there based on their experience but decided to go ahead. What a mistake that was! McDonald’s would have been a far better option. The food was terrible and the service just as bad. Just goes to show you that you can’t judge a book by it’s cover. Needless to say I won’t be recommending the Bellagio to anyone.”

No photos for you! “Arrangements were previously made with [a] photographer to have pictures taken after the wedding at Valley of the Fire Nevada State Park, located an hour north of Las Vegas for which we hired two rental cars. We followed the photographer in our two rental cars with four members of the wedding party in each car. When we arrived at the park each of the three drivers paid the $6 admission fee and we proceeded to the first of several planned photo shoots in the park. When we arrived and walked to the photo shoot, we were promptly approached by a female park ranger, who informed us that we had to leave the park immediately. When we asked why she said that since the commercial photographer did not have a permit to take photos, we were in violation of state and national park regulations. We were not allowed to stay and take our own family photos with our personal cameras but were forced to leave. Needless to say, this ruined what was to be a joyous day.”

Rude airport employees. “The final poor customer service experience happened at the airport as we were getting ready to check in. As we approached the curbside check in the employee asked whether we would be checking our bags with him. When we indicated we would go inside, he made a snide remark and thus concluded our trip much the same as it had begun.”

Gerald, I think it’s safe to say Elvis is spinning in his grave.

Zekas sent an email to the Nevada Tourism Web site, complaining about the park ranger. It was ignored. He sent the other grievances directly to me.

Just one problem: Even though the Nevada Tourism site claims to be official, it isn’t. The real Nevada site is here. I’m not convinced anyone would have answered him, anyway.

The photography complaint should have been directed to Nevada State Parks. Likewise, he should have contacted Alamo, Bellagio and Mirage directly with his other grievances.

Even if there were a clearinghouse for Nevada tourism complaints, it’s unlikely anyone would have responded to Zekas in a meaningful way. Why? Because laundry lists are among the least effective kind of grievances. I see a lot of them for cruises (“I didn’t get the dinner seating I wanted, the cabin steward was rude, the midnight buffet ended at 11:45″) and travel companies typically throw those into the circular file.

Bottom line, though, is that Zekas’ complaints are legit and someone should have taken them seriously. Finding that someone — that’s the trick.

(Photo: Roadsidepictures/Flickr Creative Commons)

  • Mike

    “Paulette Baker
    @Mike: Your photos are PERSONAL photos. Many parks require COMMERCIAL photographers, such as a wedding photographer, to have a permit. A bit of research would have disclosed that requirement. I agree with Gary that a professional photographer from the Vegas area would have known that.”

    I do agree that a professional would have known that. I also made a mistake. I did not visit the Valley of Fire. It was Red Rock Canyon which was breathtaking in its own right. fact is though that I was not booted for taking photos of my wife in her dress in that park. Perhaps the rules are different.

    As to the Valley of Fire, I do see it says quite clearly that WEDDINGS require a permit. Unless I completely misread something, this wasn’t a wedding. it was picture taking. There is a big difference there because weddings often involve hundreds of people, catering and other happenings. Weddings are far different than taking photos of a dozen people who were involved in the wedding. I think the ranger either needs some serious reading lessons and re-training or the park needs to more clearly state what the permit is for.

  • Steve

    I could have sworn I posted a response to this. Anyway, a few thoughts. I agree that this isn’t really a case where it made sense to email Chris. But I totally disagree that these complaints aren’t valid.

    First, I think it’s ridiculous to say that a complaint about the quality of a meal is worthless, especially when we’re talking about an expensive buffet like the Bellagio. All of the snarky comments about how exotic the food is (so maybe that’s why they didn’t like it), or “I liked the Bellagio buffet, so I don’t know what this guy’s talking about” are beside the point. We don’t know what was unacceptable about it. Maybe the food was cold, or maybe some key items were missing, or maybe the food was just plain bad that day. The only thing this guy did wrong was not complain to management at the time and try to get whatever compensation he thought he deserved…clearly, this isn’t something to complain to Chris about.

    As for SW vacation packages, I agree that they spell out pretty clearly that resort fees are not included, but based on my limited experience they look like a scam anyway. I tried pricing one for our recent Vegas trip and it came out over $200 more expensive than booking the flight (on SW) and the hotel (booked via Expedia on a 3rd-night-free special) separately. Even if I’d booked the hotel with no specials, it still would have been $100 more expensive. I can’t see how booking it together on SW’s site would have added $100 in value. Plus, the SW vacations site is totally non-transparent and doesn’t break out the flight and hotel costs to make it clear what you’re paying.

    As for the photo fiasco, clearly the local photographer should have known the park’s policy and I would have been furious with him and demanded a substantial discount, at a minimum equal to the cost of park admission. But I think it’s unreasonable to say “oh, the father should have known they needed a permit” considering that they weren’t having a wedding in the park…they were taking some pictures with a few members of the wedding party. And I think the ranger acted like a jerk.

  • Carver Farrow

    @Arizona

    I understand the impulse to suggest that the OP use a travel agent and other professionals. But we have to be careful.What exactly would the OP have received for such an expenditure of potentially thousands of dollars.

    1. They would still have been responsible for the resort fees and other taxes
    2. Alamo would still have given them a hard sell.
    3. The buffet at the Bellagio remains unchanged
    4. The baggage handler gives the same snide remark

    Basically spending perhaps thousands on a travel agent and wedding coordinator would have netted the OP pictures at the park and being forewarned about the resort feesi.

    Seems quite pricey for such minimal gain.

  • Adele

    Hey, at least he got to see his daughter’s wedding. My father passed away from a sudden illness a few days before I got married.

    So what if the wedding wasn’t perfect? At least he was there to celebrate the event with his daughter and son-in-law. It’s all in how you look at it. Couldn’t they have made the best of the situation and had a photo shoot just outside the park boundary? I’ve known many people who have unrealistic expectations of their weddings and fall to pieces if things don’t go exactly as planned. It’s about family and friends coming together to help you celebrate. It’s not about photos, flowers, or cakes being perfect.

  • LeeAnne

    @Adele – I couldn’t agree with you more. That’s one of the things that bottered me from the beginning about this story: that they LET a few relatively minor annoyances destroy what should have been a joyous day (and probably would have been, if they hadn’t been so blinded by the few imperfections). So they had to pay some extra fees (one of which they could easily have walked away from), had a bad meal, encountered a rude airport worker, and hired an incompetent photographer. In the meantime, two people joined together in marriage, a family came together to celebrate, they got to stay at a pretty nice hotel in Vegas, and I’d venture to guess that some good times were experienced by all. But what do they remember about their wedding? The glitches…which, according to Mr. Zekas, actually SPOILED their day. How sad.

    My father wasn’t at my wedding either, having passed away not too long prior. And my wedding was definitely not perfect. The floral decorations on the outdoor gazebo (where the ceremony was held) were done wrong and looked horrible; I stepped on and ripped the train of my dress before I walked down the aisle; during the ceremony the wind picked up, kicking my veil straight up over my head so I look like a cockatoo in the photos; we ran out of salad; the wedding cake (an Italian rum cake) was so drenched in rum we couldn’t let any of the children eat it; and to top it off, the band had lost their lead singer, and brought a singer who couldn’t carry a tune if his life depended on it.

    Did we let any of this ruin our day? No! We laughed about it, and moved on. We got married. We had a fabulous party (light on salad, heavy on rum). We danced all night to off-key songs. My dress was so ripped by the end of the night, I gave it to my grandmother to make doll clothes for her handmade dolls, which we treasure now that she’s gone. Everybody in my extended family has one with pieces of my dress on it. The top part of that cake, with all that booze in it, preserved very well in the freezer and tasted great a year later on our anniversary. And the cockatoo photos are now family classics.

    I’m GRATEFUL for all the glitches at my wedding – I’ve been getting laughs when I tell that story for 25 years!

    It’s all in your perspective.

    I do wish Mr. Zekas’s daughter and her beloved a blessed marriage, and hope that they are able to roll with the punches a little better in the future, when things don’t go exactly as planned.

  • A.

    @Adele & LeAnne- Maybe we are reading different articles, but only one of these compliants is actually wedding related (the rest were about their “special vacation”) so I don’t understand why either of you are complaining on how everyone wants a “perfect” wedding. I am fine if you disagree Zekas as I find him kind of whiny and believe his other compliants are pretty pathetic, but I think the condescending attitude when discussing weddings is uncalled for. Adele, I am going to assume that you don’t know anything this particular park because I doubt you would have suggested for them to shoot photo outside the park’s boundaries if you did. LeAnne, a flyaway veil which you could have easily taken off or your decision to have a rum cake or have a live band ended with poor results is a little different from kicked off the property when trying to take wedding pictures. I think it is fairly reasonable for one to expect pictures on their wedding day, especially when they hired professional photographers who should have known about/checked for photography restrictions beforehand. I also don’t understand why they could not take pictures with their personal cameras or the park ranger’s extreme decision to force them off the property. I believe they are well within their rights to be upset and feel that this experience “ruined what was to be a joyous day”. (That being said I want to add that I really don’t care about weddings because I think it is foolish to spend all this money, time, and added stress on a party that last only a few hours.)

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ Carver Farrow “1. They would still have been responsible for the resort fees and other taxes”
    At least he would have known of these fees upfront which he could have selected another hotel and/or vacation package if he had objected to the fee.

    “2. Alamo would still have given them a hard sell.”
    A travel agent might have selected another car rental company. Even not, a travel agent could have set the expectations with him that there will be a hard sell. He could have called the travel agent during the hard sell for moral support and some guts.

    “3. The buffet at the Bellagio remains unchanged” Anyone that think that McDonalds would have been better than the Bellagio buffet probably shouldn’t be eating at Bellagio.

    “4. The baggage handler gives the same snide remark” He never said what the remark was but it is my guess that it was related to the frugalness of Mr. Zekas in regards to using a baggage handler. What was Mr. Zekas’ attitude or tone of voice? When a porter or sky cap ask me if I need help, I say “I am fine but thank you for asking” The baggage handler shouldn’t have say anything but how about Mr. Zekas getting a thick skin. I travel for business and I run across rude, incompetent, crass, unprofessional and etc. people in the travel industry all of the time. I don’t let these people get to me or scoop to their level.

  • Anne

    Lists like this are why tourism boards should have hospitality and customer service trainings and materials for all professions that touch the visiting public. Hospitality isn’t just for hotel clerks. Taxi drivers, airport staff, restaurant workers, medical staff, event planners, public transport workers, retail staff, etc should all have some idea how they can affect a tourist’s visit and impression of an entire city, state or even region. And that matters, because tourism is the lifeblood of places like Vegas and without it Vegas would be a gas station pit stop on the way to “sunny California.”

  • Carver

    @Arizona

    I think you’re grasping at straws. The question is what value, in terms od dollars and cents would a travel agent have given the OP.

    In order.

    1a. The taxes are unavoidable. $0 benefit

    1b. He might have selected a resort without resort fees. Max value $67.20

    2. Alamo. All companies give a hard sell. That’s not an Alamo specific issue. The OP could have called anyone if he needed moral support. Benefit $0.00

    3. Agreed. Although that isn’t a travel agent issue. Benefit $0.00

    4. Agreed. Benefit $0.00

    So Basically, using a travel agent would have maxed the OP a benefit of $67.20. I suspect that would not be very cost effective