“The Department of Transportation has used a bazooka to kill an ant”

The long-awaited sequel to this summer’s controversial tarmac delay study has just been released. In it, aviation analysts Darryl Jenkins and Joshua Marks claim 384,000 more passengers were stranded by cancellations last summer, and an additional 49,600 air travelers experienced gate returns and delays. It calls on the Transportation Department to clarify its three-hour turnback rule — a rule the DOT insists is a resounding success.

I asked Jenkins about the study and its conclusions this morning. Here’s our interview.

You’ve analyzed flight cancellations based on last summer’s data. What’s the bottom line for passengers?

If it’s summer, and there’s a thunderstorm, and your flight is canceled because of this rule – and last summer, load factors were 90 percent or higher – it will take a full day to rebook you on another flight.

But the government says the three-hour rule is a success. Why is it wrong?

Here’s where we agree with the government. We agree that this rule will stop long tarmac delays. The size of the fine is just too punitive. The reasons we don’t like the rule is that in order to prevent these long tarmac delays, you’re causing these cancellations that would not happen otherwise.

The Department of Transportation has used a bazooka to kill an ant. The ant is in fact dead. So is everything within a light year of the ant. There is collateral damage.

You say that after the rule, there have been 384,000 additional passengers stranded. How did you come up with that number?

There is publicly available data that allows us to identify the canceled flight by tail number. We can find out the type of aircraft, which we did, and then we calculated the number of passengers based on average load factors.

There was a lot of work that went into this. You would have to be slightly warped to want to do it to this level of details.

You suggest that the worst may be yet to come, in terms of cancellations. Why?

We had the best weather in a decade in the summer of 2010. But what if we have 26 days of thunderstorms in June of 2011, like we had a couple of years ago. That would be a nightmare. Then the numbers of cancellations would be doubled or tripled.

Your initial findings in July, which were based on a month’s data, was heavily criticized by the Transportation Department. How have you addressed the government’s concerns about the first report?

I’ve been doing this 30 years, and this is the first time DOT has done a press release on one of my studies. (Update: DOT did it again in response to this study.)

We used the same methodology and we’ve added a layer — the additional data from this summer. We have a high level of confidence in our study.

The new report seems to support the airline industry’s argument that if a three-hour rule is introduced, it will lead to more cancellations. Some have suggested that you set out to prove that correct, because of your connection to the industry. Say it isn’t so.

This is probably the first time in the history of the universe that the airlines are right on something. It may never happen again.

[Goes off the record.]

The airline industry predicted there would be unintended consequences of the tarmac delay rule. But I never thought there would be unintended consequences. I always thought the consequences would be predictable.

We don’t have a connection with the industry.

In your conclusion, you say the rule should be adjusted. How should the three-hour rule be fixed, in your opinion?

We don’t want the rule to be eliminated. We need more data. We just want clarification of the guidelines.

When I drive to Florida on I-95, the speed limit is between 65 and 75. If I go 66, I have a reasonable assumption that I won’t get fined. The airlines need [the same assurances]. They need clarification.

One thing we’re asking for is that the government agree not to pursue investigations where the pilot initiates a return to the gate before 2 1/2 hours of on-board delay. Also, we think the DOT should defer expansion of the tarmac rule to international flights or small airports until enforcement changes show lower cancellation trends.

We have data now that shows the consequences of the rule. We need guidelines. We are asking for the rule to be modified.

What can consumers do if they want the three-hour rule modified?

I think consumers can put pressure on the government. They’re the reason the three-hour rule was put in place to begin with. The airlines weren’t acting they should — they weren’t acting like adults.

(Photo: Cari bb/Flickr Creative Commons)

  • Raven

    You know what I want? I want airlines to treat me like a passenger and not cargo. I want to be able to sit in a seat without an 8-year-old lap child next to me on one side and a fattie on the other. I want to be able to get up to use the restroom and it will be functioning. I want to be able to walk into an airport and not have some dude frisk me like I’m a common criminal. I want to be able to check bags for free so that I’m not sitting at the gate while the FA’s try to get people to move their “smaller” bags from above to accomodate the oversized roll-a-boards.

  • Carrie Charney

    Give me water, food and use of a working bathroom and I can take a tarmac delay (and have) for longer than three hours.

  • Walt Blackadar

    And their suggestions are…? Because they didn’t make any beyond “not to pursue investigations where the pilot initiates a return to the gate before 2 1/2 hours of on-board delay”. Well, when the pilot is turned down by the tower or the airline because the gates are too full, that doesn’t do a damn thing for the passengers, does it?

    It’s not an unreasonable expectation that when I board a plane, it either takes off or lets me off the plane within 3 hours. That I even have to write that statement seems absolutely absurd.

    If the fines were lowered to the point they weren’t painful to the airlines, then the rule has no teeth. Frankly, I’m glad to know that I won’t be held hostage on an airplane for 5 hours because of mechanical problems that the airline can’t promptly fix but doesn’t want to cancel the flight and pay the food/lodging costs that they’re supposed to. Nor is it the passenger’s fault (nor the government’s) that the airlines have increased their overbookings and tried to pack their planes like sardines.

    No change to this rule is needed. Working as intended.

  • David Z

    I hop things don’t get worse this December like the two previous ones…

  • cjr

    “Give me water, food and use of a working bathroom and I can take a tarmac delay (and have) for longer than three hours.”

    This is the problem more than anything else. Planes no longer have food, and probably not enough beverages to deal with long delays, so passengers have nothing.

    On top of that, planes are already too small and cramped, due to the airlines pursuing every effort to make flying as inconvenient and frustrating as possible.

    And yet they think it’s a brilliant idea to make people sit in a plane for hours on end. This is of their own making.

  • Don

    I’d rather have a flight cancelled and be comfortable in a building than stuck in an airplane, with no food, drink, bathroom, wifi, etc. and a bunch of angry travelers also next to me.

  • Josh

    As much as the airlines would like us to believe this false dichotomy, it simply isn’t the case. As far as I know, the airline isn’t required to cancel the flight after 3 hours, just to return to a gate.

    Last Christmastime, my family was on a flight that got to the runway and turned back due to a mechanical issue. We went back to the gate and sat, with the door open, for 2.5 hours. People were told they could get off, but should be ready for a 5-minute warning to reboard, and that there weren’t many alternative flights. We stayed on, but just knowing that we could have gotten off to find a nice bathroom, get a snack, look for an alternate flight, stretch, etc, was sufficient and made for a fairly pleasant wait.

    I understand that in a weather situation, there may not be enough gates, but that’s the airline’s job to prepare for and solve:

    - Negotiate with other airlines up front to use their gates (and maybe on-call staff) in an emergency, either reciprocal or with some payment for the contingency.

    - Rotate planes into gates; 6 flights can share a gate docking for 15 minutes every 2 hours each (with 5 minutes to move them around).

    And yes, I’m willing to have ticket costs go up the (small) amount it takes to plan for those contingencies, just like I’m willing to pay them to carry that extra engine (commercial airliners are required to be able to fly with one out), the oxygen masks, fire extinguishers, etc.

  • http://wild-light.com Fedor G Pikus

    I want the 3-hour rule modified. I want a 1-hour rule. And I want the fines increased 10 times. The plane should not start boarding unless they know they will pull away from the gate at the right time. The plane should not pull away from the gate unless they have a place in line for takeoff and a clear plan for getting there. They must have all these plans, if the planes were just running around the field looking for a place to squeeze in we would have collisions every day. But we don’t. There must be a very orderly scheduling for getting the planes off the ground. Sure, things can change while the plane is boarding, and the thunderstorm can roll it. Ok, let everyone off the plane if it’s going to be longer than an hour. I heard the arguments that “the plane will lose its position in the takeoff line”. This is bull. Make it so the position is attached to the plane no matter where it is. The plane can pull away from the gate when its number is close enough so by the time it reaches the runway it can take off. When your queue number is 10, you can pull from the gate. When it’s 30, you can board. If planes are not taking off, their keep their queue numbers. If you have a problem with this process, you have too many planes in the airport and you have overbooked the gates.

  • Brooklyn

    What they said! And the 3-hour rule should be a 1-hour rule. Airlines and legislators, are you listening?

  • Dang

    I am interested to know whether there are similar tarmac delay problems elsewhere than in the US Airports. LHR, FRA, AMS, CDG, NRT are at the top traffic volume too but never hear of tarmac delay out of proportion publicity.

  • Bill

    Everyone here but cjr has this right.
    I was on a plane in Dallas for 3 hours in August.
    There were parents taking clothes off their kids because they were afraid of what the heat would do to them. It was worse than hot. The air conditioning in these planes does not seem to work well while they are idling on the ground.

    Rule is fine as it is. If the flights are being cancelled I expect that is more a factor of poor contingency planning by the airlines than this rule.

    I’d be interested in the other studies done by this crew. How often do their “findings” line up with airline positions?
    Any researcher can make some of the data line up with their desired results. Just the ignore the data that lies outside your desired range or excuse it with “assumptions”.

  • Lark

    @Fedor well said. Plain common sense!

  • Mary Graham

    Flying has become an atrocious, humiliating, frustrating experience. Who in there right mind would fly unless they absolutely HAD to?

  • Robert Bishop

    Why is there a tarmac delay in the first place? Most major metropolitan airports have Doppler Radar, and this information is available to airlines and their flight crews in real time. Why do get to the point of gate departure and on the tarmac only to wait. That is there is fore knowledge and no reason to leave the gate in the first place. As for causing more cancellations, if next year has an increase in days of inclement weather can the airline really afford to cancel more flights? it is disruption in there schedule that translates into lost revenue. In the end it’s the airline that needs to reassess it’s policy and procedures.

  • cjr

    “Everyone here but cjr has this right.”

    I fail to see how your post makes mine wrong.

    I acknowledged that the airlines have made things a mess, and that little things would help mitigation a problem in some instances.

    And then you agree with me that the airlines are to blame.

  • John

    We have turned into a nation of whiney complainers. If air travel is so bad, dont fly. Dont blame the airlines for a crying baby sitting next to you or the fat person who may be taking a little bit of your personal space. Blame the parents of that baby and the overweight problem we have in this country. When was the last time you were on a flight with no working lavatory? Yes, flights are more crowded today than they were in the past. And yes, it continues to be cheaper to fly today than it was in the past. So, lets just have the airlines raise the fares and see if the levels of travelers today stays where it is. If less people fly and pay higher fares, than you may luck out and have a row of seats removed or maybe you wont have to sit next to that person who takes no responsibility for their kid. And get over the 3 hour tarmac rule. Why is the plane sitting out there? Its because of the antiquated ATC system that is operated by the US government.

    Grow up America!

  • Scott

    Wow, it is amazing to me how so many people who have ZERO knowledge of this country’s air transport system want to tell everyone how to run things.

    Anyone that says they would rather “…have a flight cancelled and be comfortable in a building than stuck in an airplane, with no food, drink, bathroom, wifi, etc. and a bunch of angry travelers also next to me” is laughable. This would be the first person screaming at an agent when he was told that there would not be an alternative flight for two days during a holiday period. But oh yes, he would be comfortable.

    Tarmac delays would almost never affect an international flight, so there would be no need to compare to foreign airports. International flights have first priority to arrive and depart.

    Rotate planes into a gate every 15 minutes? Really? Who is going to do that? Airlines have enough ground staff to handle a normal schedule. There are not people sitting around to play patty-cake moving planes from gate to gate.

    Some of you are playing in the land of make-believe. Life just doesn’t always go smoothly. When things disrupt air travel, it is going to be messy. The things is, some of you people are so vicious with your comments, you act as if airlines WANT to leave you on the tarmac. Trust me, they are losing money when this happens *AND* the employees who you take it out on aren’t that thrilled to be your punching bag either. And the crews are stuck as well.

    When a plane is held on the tarmac (and this is done by an Air Traffic Controller, usually in the destination city, NOT by an airline, who would rather keep you moving), it is usually done because of a sudden change in weather conditions at the destination city or enroute limiting the number of planes that can arrive or approach at one time. This often happens at SFO, reducing allowable arrivals per hour from 60 to 30. Imagine what happens on a freeway when a 2-lane highway is reduced to 1 lane. That is EXACTLY what happens at an airport. The (federal) Air Traffic Control (ATC) then holds flights while they realign all the air traffic in and around that city.

    One other thing to keep in mind: as long as the plane is on the tarmac, the pilots remain legal to operate that flight. The moment the aircraft door opens, crew legalities are refigured. Once flights crews go past their legal ability to work (especially pilots), good luck finding a replacement.

    Have fun!

  • David Z
  • David Z

    Probably too late since other posts came up, but just thought I’d post something new I found on this specific topic:

    http://crankyflier.com/2010/11/22/a-modest-proposal-on-tarmac-delays/

    Enjoy…or not.