That’s ridiculous! What’s with this $150 fee to redeposit my frequent flier miles?

If you’re a card-carrying frequent flier, you probably already know that several airlines – including American Airlines, Delta Air Lines and US Airways – charge $150 to redeposit frequent flier miles into your account.

But Anne Isaacson thought she might be able to talk herself out of the fee when she phoned United Airlines to book a first-class airline ticket. After all, she paid $4,300 for it, and figured that as a courtesy, the airline would let the surcharge slide for some unused miles she wanted to put back into her account for a different flight.

She thought wrong.

“The agent said she couldn’t waive the fee,” says Isaacson. “She said she understood my outrage.”

Airlines would sooner irritate a good customer than give up a mileage redeposit fee. That’s because most of the industry’s record profits are extracted from so-called “ancillary” fees such as redeposit surcharges. United made $243 million in fees like these for the first three quarters of last year – and that was before its merger with Continental, which earned $181 million from them.

Put together, United is the number-two airline for these extras, behind Delta Air Lines, which raked in an impressive $530 million in the first three quarters of 2010.

United didn’t respond to repeated requests to explain the $150 fee.

“The $150 redeposit fee in no way reflects the airline’s cost to reinstate a program member’s mileage,” says Tim Winship, editor of the site FrequentFlier.com. “While the process does require a call to the airline, the agent can complete the transaction in five minutes at most.”

Compare the cost of a mileage redeposit to a phone booking, which can take 15 minutes or more and costs $20, and you get the idea that airlines are charging the redeposit fee simply because they can.

“I don’t expect this fee — or others — to be discontinued in the foreseeable future. The airlines’ business model now depends on these ancillary revenues to attain profitability,” adds Winship.

But back to Isaacson. Can’t United see the forest for the trees and cut her some slack? More to the point, why would any airline force its best customers to pay the equivalent of a restocking fee?

The airline industry is headed in the wrong direction. The most forward-looking companies are eliminating restocking fees, including Apple and Best Buy. The fees are not only an annoyance, but there’s probably no purer example of unrestrained corporate greed. (Apple charged a 10 percent restocking fee and Best Buy’s was an eye-popping 15 percent.)

Customers hated the fees. And they still do.

Ridiculous? No question about it. You don’t punish your best customers with fees. You reward them. If they can’t use the miles, you deposit them back into their account with your apologies.

United should have waived Isaacson’s fee, since she was buying a first-class ticket, and the entire point of frequent flier miles is to reward people like her for their patronage.

Maybe airlines should look somewhere else to make an easy buck. Or maybe passengers like Isaacson should reward another airline with their loyalty.

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  • Mel

    @ Thomas: “It soesn’t [sic] matter if you’re selling airline tickets or landscaping, you take care of your best clients.”

    I disagree to a point. I fly often for work and once or twice a year for pleasure, but I am forced by corporate policy to book the cheapest flights, and always in coach. So, I’m not considered “a best client” because I don’t spend six figures a year in travel; but I still expect to be treated well. By your thinking (which frankly sound pretty entitled), a family who’s scraped together enough money for a once in a lifetime vacation doesn’t deserve the same level of service that you and your six-figure a year brethren deserve? That just seems flat out wrong. The airlines should be treating everyone that boards one of their planes as an important and valued customer throughout the entire process from booking through arrival. Period. I don’t mean everyone has to get FC treatment, amenities can be purchased, but everyone deserves the courtesy and respect and compassion that seem to be lacking in the way airlines do business today.

  • Kevin M

    OK, let’s leave aside for a moment whether she was a “best customer”; let’s leave aside that “some” levels of “status customers” are exempt from these fees.

    There are essentially two reasons one can advance for levying this fee. Either it’s easy money for the airlines, because there’s nothing the customer can do, once the ticket is “bought” with the miles: you take the flight, you cancel and forfeit the miles, or you cancel and pay the fee to get the miles back. Or it’s to discourage the multiple bookings scenario mentioned. Let’s look at the latter option.

    AZ cited Singapore Air’s limit of one FC and two BC seats per flight for redemption. Of course, a standard award round trip in BC from the US to Beijing on Singapore Air takes 340,000 miles. So someone who wanted to book, say, four mileage bookings (and cancel 3 of them for free later) would have to have 1,360,000 miles saved up – how many people, really, have that kind of balance available? And how many of that limited number would be inclined to engage in that sort of behavior? Get real.

    Which leaves the other option: it’s a money grab. Of course it is, and the legacy airlines have nobody but themselves to blame. AZ likes to fault Southwest, et al. because they don’t fly to every little town in the US with a landing strip, but the fact is, they’ve made rational decisions about where they can fly on a cost-effective basis. Nobody forces UA, AA, Delta, etc. to fly to Petticoat Junction.

  • Geoff

    The introduction of frequent flier miles was the ruination of the airline industry. Many experts have indicated that if each person in the world that was eligible to redeem a ticket, did so today, all of the airlines would be bankrupt. Loyalty; sometimes. Not from my point of view. The Sam’s Discover card gives me 2% back per $ spent. I can afford to buy my tickets cheaper than redeem miles. All major credit cards offer at least 1% back, the same as airlines except for the most elite. I would rather control my money, rather than fight the airlines. I never fight my rebate check, credit, rebate cards. I turned in 500,000 miles to charity 2 years ago, turned in all of my airline credit cards, tore up all the FF miles, and no longer care what airline that I am flying, as they all offer terrible service anyway.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ Kevin M – “OK, let’s leave aside for a moment whether she was a “best customer”;”
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    The main argument in the article that Chris Elliott made that she was a ‘best customer’ of United and it doesn’t make sense for UA to charge her $ 150. If she was truly a ‘best customer’ of UA by UA standards, she would have paid no fees to redeposit her miles.

    @ Kevin M – “AZ cited Singapore Air’s limit of one FC and two BC seats per flight for redemption.”
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    This limitation is for Star Alliance members who are cashing miles from a Star Alliance partner for a reward on Singapore metal (i.e. cashing in United miles for a reward ticket on Signapore). HOWEVER, there are much more reward seats available for its own KrisFlyer (the name of the Singapore FF program) frequent flyer program members.

    @ Kevin M – “Of course, a standard award round trip in BC from the US to Beijing on Singapore Air takes 340,000 miles.”
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    I have cashed my US Airways miles for reward tickets on Singpaore Airlines. I can book a Business Class seat (which I have) from the US to China on Singapore for 90,000 miles (standard award miles) and a First Class (which I have) for 120,000 miles (standard award miles). Here is the webpage, http://www2.usairways.com/pv_obj_cache/pv_obj_id_EF659E19414FD2732186E86A00A402184B1B0100/filename/partnerawardtravel.pdf.

    It is my guess that the 340,000 miles you are referring to is for a KrisFlyer frequent flyer member cashing in his\her KrisFlyer miles for a ticket for trip on Singapore.

    Personally, I think that cashing in your miles for a flight from the same airline is NOT the best value. Last year, Delta wanted 290,000 miles for a BC seat for a reward ticket on its own metal to Asia but it was only 120,000 miles for a BC seat for a flight to Asia on Korean and Malaysia Airlines. The FC and BC product and services on Korean and Malyasia Airlines are superior to Delta.

    The bottom line is that a FF member can book three BC reservations for a party of two to Europe or Asia for 540,000 miles.

    540,000 miles is not a lot of miles nor does it cost a lot to earn these miles. As stated in an earlier comment, I earn 140,000 miles in the recent US Airways Grand Slam promotion at a cost less than $ 400 as well as my family members.

    @ Kevin M – “1,360,000 miles saved up – how many people, really, have that kind of balance available? And how many of that limited number would be inclined to engage in that sort of behavior? Get real.”
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    It is only 90,000 miles x 4 BC reservations = 360,000 miles NOT 1.36 MM miles IF you are using Star Alliance miles (i.e. CO, UA, US, etc.); therefore, I stand behind my comment that a FF can book multiple reservations thus taking away seats from other FFs.

    I have over 1 MM miles but I ran into several other US Airways FFs that have more miles in their accounts.

    @ Kevin M – “AZ likes to fault Southwest, et al. because they don’t fly to every little town in the US with a landing strip, but the fact is, they’ve made rational decisions about where they can fly on a cost-effective basis. Nobody forces UA, AA, Delta, etc. to fly to Petticoat Junction.”
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    UA, AA, DL, US, etc. was flying into Petticoat Junction before deregulation. They have made investments in these airports\cities; made investments in equipment (i.e. CRJ, Dash-8, etc.); hired people in these cities; they have contracts (with cities\airports and unions); etc. They can’t just walk away from these cities and abandon them.

    If AA, DL, UA and US walked away from these cities and just fly to the 68 airports that Southwest flies to…the citizens that uses the other ~452 airports with commercial airline services will be up in arms about having no commerical airline services.

    If AA, DL, UA and US compete with Southwest on fares (since the majority of flyers buy their tickets on costs) on these routes to these 68 airports and raised the fares on the routes to these other ~452 airports to reflect the actual costs of flying these routes, again the citizens in the areas served by these ~452 airports will be up in arms over the 2x, 3x, etc. price increases.

    It is a no win situation for the legacy airlines…pull out of a market and the flying public will be mad…raise the fares to actually reflect the costs of operating the flight and the flying public will be mad.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ Geoff – “The Sam’s Discover card gives me 2% back per $ spent. I can afford to buy my tickets cheaper than redeem miles.”
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    It might be cheaper for you to do it this way but it is whole lot cheaper for me to redeem miles.

    In 2005, I cashed in 180,000 miles for two BC tickets on British Airways. I went to their website and the lowest fares for these two tickets were $ 12,000 per person or $ 24,000. At 1 Mile per Dollar on my airline branded credit card, we would have to charge $ 180,000 (that will take us 4 to 5 years). With 2% cash back credit card, we would have to charge $ 1,200,000 (that will take us 30 years) to earn $ 24,000. More importantly, I can earn 180,000 miles in other methods at lesser cost…as I commented earlier; I earned 140,000 miles for less than $ 400.

    If you have no plans to travel internationally to Europe, Asia, etc. via First Class or Business Class and looking only to purchase domestic coach tickets then a cash back credit card might be the best for you.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    Mel – “So, I’m not considered “a best client” because I don’t spend six figures a year in travel; but I still expect to be treated well. By your thinking (which frankly sound pretty entitled), a family who’s scraped together enough money for a once in a lifetime vacation doesn’t deserve the same level of service that you and your six-figure a year brethren deserve? That just seems flat out wrong. The airlines should be treating everyone that boards one of their planes as an important and valued customer throughout the entire process from booking through arrival.”
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    If a family who’s scraped together enough money for a once in a lifetime vacation sitting in coach will receive the same level of service as the other passengers in coach. It will be the same if this family was sitting in Business Class or First Class, they will receive the same level of service as the other passengers in the section that they are sitting.

    I can’t speak for Thomas but I think that he is referring to the waiver of fees and other special benefits for elite FFs. A 1K or a Global Service member at UA doesn’t pay a fee to restock miles if they cancel their reward reservation. On the other hand, if a family scraped together enough miles for reward tickets but don’t have 1K or Global Service status with UA, they are going to pay a restocking fee.

    I think that airlines treat their passengers the same but they provide additional benefits to their better customers because they earn it from their long-term and on-going patronage to the airline. UA is going to offer a free FC or BC upgrade to an elite FF member but a non-elite FF member isn’t going to be given the upgrade.