“Royal Caribbean should change its name to Pirates of the Caribbean”

majestyA word of warning to anyone taking a cruse: Don’t trust anyone with your valuables.

When a luggage porter took Jim Van Ness’s bag as he boarded Royal Caribbean’s Majesty of the Seas recently, he should have stopped him. “I didn’t intend to give my backpack with my cameras inside to the porters,” he told me. “But I laid it down to pick up my granddaughter and a porter grabbed it and off it went.”

Guess what happens next?

“When it got to the stateroom it was trashed,” he says. “The camera was packed inside a strong plastic case and inside a camera bag. Whatever they did had to be negligence. Total damage comes to about $350.”

Is the cruise line responsible?

Here’s Royal Caribbean’s disclaimer from its ticket contract (PDF):

Liability for Loss of or Damage to Baggage. Unless negligent, Carrier is neither responsible nor liable for any loss of or damage to Passenger’s property, whether contained in luggage or otherwise. Liability for loss of or damage to Passenger’s property in connection with any air or ground transportation shall be the sole responsibility of the provider of the service and in accordance with applicable limitations.

c. Limitation of Liability for Lost or Damaged Property. Notwithstanding any other provision of law or this Agreement, Carrier’s liability for loss or damage to property during the RCT Land Tour portion of a CruiseTour is limited to $300.00 per Passenger. Notwithstanding any other provision of law or this Agreement, Carrier’s liability for loss or damage to property for the cruise (or for the cruise only portion of a CruiseTour) is limited to $300.00 per Passenger, unless Passenger declares the true value of such property in writing and pays Carrier within 10 days of final payment for the cruise, a fee of five percent (5%) of the amount that such value exceeds $300.00. In such event, Carrier’s liability shall be limited to its true declared value, but not exceeding $5,000.

So Van Ness made a claim.

First thing your going to do, of course, is report it to the front desk. They will have you fill out a claim form and assure you that when you file it after the cruise you’ll get reimbursed.

They do this, I guess, so you don’t make a scene or they are clueless of what happens next.

After you arrive back in port you will file a claim. At first they will ignore it to see if you’ll forget and go away, so after a few months you call and ask about the claim status. You’ll be told that your claim has been denied for some ridiculous reason.

So now you write the customer service people. They pass the buck back to the pit bull in claims who is now very annoyed at your persistence.

Now you write Adam Goldstein, [Royal Caribbean's CEO] and notify him of the injustice. He won’t answer.

So you send another letter certified, he turns the matter over to an executive representative.

His reply was too funny; he checks with the pit bull and writes, “We have thoroughly and satisfactorily addressed your previous inquiries.” In other words, we take what we can and give nothing back. Than he cracks me up with “we truly hope you will choose to sail with us again in the future.”

As comical as the letter was it wasn’t worth the $250 dollar camera they destroyed.

I guess it all comes down to how you define “negligent.” Royal Caribbean may define it as dropping a passenger’s luggage in the water; a passenger might feel that smashing a camera on the floor is plenty negligent. I tend to side with the passenger definition.

Van Ness is ticked off.

Royal Caribbean should change its name to Pirates of the Caribbean.

In the Curse of the Black Pearl, when Mr. Gibbs agrees to help Captain Jack Sparrow to recover the Black Pearl, Jack says to Mr. Gibbs, “Take what you can.”

To which Gibbs replies: “Give nothing back.”

There’s a lesson for all of us taking a cruise. Don’t let anyone near your valuables. If something happens to them, you have no one to blame but yourself.

(Photo: hbvk/Flickr Creative Commons)

  • Ames

    It’s not just on cruise ships, I find porters are very quick to pick up small bags, especially if I have tried to set them aside so they won’t. I frequently have to ask for my bags back and find the porter is offended, but that is far better than having my computer or camera dropped. The worst are the guys at a hotel who want to pack my trunk for me – the most fragile stuff always comes first since it is on top and now is headed for the bottom. I have tipped porters to leave me alone and let me do it myself. They act offended but alwys take the money!

  • Steve

    The porters seriously mistreat the luggage. Last February boarding a Princess cruise in San Pedro, from a distance I watch a porter throw my bag on top of the others. He had a huge pile of bags on his cart about about eight feet high. It fell, so he tried to throw it again. It crashed a second time. I ran over there and asked “What the $#%$ are you doing”.

    Nothing was damaged because we had all the electronics, etc. on us. You give those guys a nice tip to treat your bags right and all they do is rush and mishandle your stuff.

  • Sarah

    For the record, porters do not work for the cruiseline. It is entirely possible that RCI is not even at fault. I never even take my hand off my bags that I will carry on, because they are moving so fast to get all the luggage loaded and everyone onto the ship in such a short amount of time.

  • http://aol barbie45

    Vaness has without a doubt been given a raw deal. My advice is try small claims court.I am always leary of those brochure pictures showing fawned over people by staff employees; Most of them are from third world countries or former Communist regimes. They know they are going to be recieving a tip because many of added on gratututies. One of the only cruise lines which has consistently had good service reviews is Disney. With many of the others it is hit ormiss. Chris tried to stay on topic.

  • http://aol barbie45

    I do not care if the porter was or was not emplyed by RCI.According to the contract they are responsible. Personally I would not nor ever intend to haul my luggage around.

  • Ed

    And that is a problem in many industries in where people *SHOULD* be trained in the profession they work in *AREN’T*
    Wait-staff who do not know the universal signal that the diner is done eating (utensils lying on the plate parallel to each other on the side where the waiter can pick it up) Or commercial drivers who don’t know the laws of the state they are driving in (Virginia, more than two years ago made is a law that if your windsheild wipers are on, then your lights should be on…and still, taxi drivers drive with their lights off in the rain) And grocery baggers who just don’t understand that the loaf of bread doesn’t go into the bottom of the same bag with the 15 pound frozen turkey…
    I never reward incompetance…if the worker wants a tip, then they need to know their job better than me…
    Ed

  • Sarah

    Mr. Van Ness may be able to get farther if he contacts the porters’ union or the port authority in the city from where he embarked and copies RCI’s customer service department outlining the situation.

  • Chris in NC

    @Ames

    Completely agree. I avoid porters like the plaque. I know they are trying to do their job when they “help” you pack your car, but you said it perfectly: “the most fragile stuff always comes first since it is on top and now is headed for the bottom.”

    The last time we stayed at a hotel with mandatory valet parking, we pulled the car to the side, unloaded the luggage, then pulled the car back around to have it parked. We pack light, and can easily handle a carry-on sized luggage with wheels + laptop pack.

    However, the mishandling of the bags is not limited to porters. Has anyone ever watched them load luggage on a plane? I remember not so long ago, I watched the baggage handlers literally throw the bags into the plane. On the luggage cart, there were several bags that looked thoroughly smushed.

    I don’t know what Mr. Van Ness could have done differently, other than chase the porter down to retrieve his camera bag. I do think that RCI should have handled this better. The letter is just insulting.

  • http://aol barbie45

    Ed, I could not agree with you more. In South Florida it is extortion . I regularly get delivery from a place that charges a I.50 delivery charge which goes to the delivery persson. then I am forced to tip on top of that. Well if I do not yuk something unpleasant could be in my food. Publix has a strict no tip policy. There isone woman there whom Ialways try to tip. She refuses. I go over to the manager Iknow and ask her to give it to her. Besides loving big Macs, I love their no tipping policy.

  • Roberto

    Camera bags are designed to protect the camera. If Royal Caribbean managed to smash a camera while it was inside a camera bag, they were doing something they shouldn’t.

  • Koala

    Why isn’t utilization of porters optional when embarking/disembarking a cruise ship? Full employment for unskilled port laborers might be one reason. The other might be that the cruise lines want to check your bags for “illegal contraband” such as beverages they want to sell you onboard.

    The port fees and fuel surcharges and growing miscellaneous fees turned me off. It’s a cost of doing business! What a scam.

    I cruised once. Haven’t done it again. I’m voting with my dollars.

  • Anne

    No real number crunched here but I always have assumed that the porters or throwers have a time limit imposed by the company. I am willing to bet that they are told they must get X bags on the ship/plane in Y time. And, I would futher wager that the time limit doesn’t leave much room for baggage “handling” and just enough time for baggage “mishandling.” Bags are heavy and awkward. Left to my own devices I would not choose to throw them onto piles when I could roll them or carry them. I can’t imagine porters are any different. More training, more reasonable expectations and a removal of the “we are in no way responsible” clause would solve most mishandling problems I bet.

  • J C

    @barbie45 – I agree that RCI is responsible regardless of who employed the porter and that they mishandled the situation. Like you, my stepkids also like to check their bags so they can walk on a plane or ship unencumbered and they paid for it with a very demolished bag once.

    We travel light (one 22″ roller bag and personal bag) and we find it safer to keep it with us. The last time we had to check a bag (the European carriers allow less weight then US carriers) one was demolished in Munich and another was left behind in Paris and had to be shipped to our home.

    I agree with Ames and Chris in NC – keep porters away and carry it yourself – both ships and planes!!

  • Mike

    Sorry, but as said above, a smashed camera that was in a camera bag is not accidental, that is negligent and as such should be approved for a claim. No amount of rushing gives any employee of that company the right to smash or toss luggage that belongs to the customer. If they are in that big of a hurry, then hire more people.

  • greg

    So can the Singer who made those youtube hitsabout United Custumer Service want to take on this cause.

  • Anonymous

    Koala, utlizing the porters is optional, but you are going to be dragging your bags with you through many lines, up escalators, and gang planks if you don’t use them.

  • RegularJoe

    “I tend to side with the passenger”

    you usually do.

  • Nicole

    This is yet another reason why I will never take a cruise.

  • Nigel Appleby

    I always have valuables and fragile items in my carry-on luggage, cruise or plane or both since we fly to the cruise. And trust the checked bags or large items to the lottery of bagage handlers and porters. In 15 years, I’ve replaced one case because of a rip which allowed water in to wet most things, luckily on the way home, another because of a broken wheel and I’m about to repalce a third because the fabric is worn where it has been dragged or had other items dragged across it.
    I’ve never had a bag lost or damaged so badly that the contents have been damaged or lost.
    Have I been lucky? Maybe, but I like to think it’s because of what I put in which bag.

  • Kathie in Mexico

    I have been seriously thinking about a cruise for the two of us. (The son of friends of ours is the Chief Purser and recommends his cruise line, of course.) But reading and rereading these horror stories about cruise lines and ships I guess we’re voting with our checkbooks: we’re not going. We’ll fly to Argentina for a long weekend, but cruises? No thanks.

  • Michael

    Amazing, I’ve only ever taken one cruise on my life, it was a Royal Carib ship this year out of Santo Domingo, and I experienced this very same zealousness from the porters. I had to pull my bags back not once, not twice, not even three times, but 5 times from 5 different pursers. Luckily I speak Spanish so I was able to communicate more effectively than some others might be able to. I hate to even suggest this, and I’m shocked Chris hasn’t, but Jim should try letting his travel agent handle this. My cruise was the first time in over 15 years that I used a travel agent and when I had to lay out $20 for a taxi when I had pre-paid airport to port transfers the travel agent had Royal Carib credit my card both the pre-paid transfers and the $20 laid out within 3 days of my return home.

  • Stephen – NYC

    Between the stories I read here and the ones on consumerist.com, I am amazed any company has decent customer service from the get-go. It always seems that to get something done right (after it was done wrong) it takes screeching like a I-don’t-know-what that has some body part stuck in a vise grip.
    That being said, maybe a leash of some sort that goes through the handles of the bags you want to keep with you. That way a porter or anyone else just can’t run off with them. I’m not talking bicycle chain stuff, just a cloth luggage strap or some such item that allows you to put the items down, but they stay next to you. Of course, at some point you’re holding onto the strap or maybe the strap goes through a shoulder bag you are already carrying. Just an idea.

  • Jeanne

    Stephen in NYC has the right idea. When I go places where I’m not familiar with the locale or has a less than savory reputation, I use a small backpack and attach one of those cords from which you hang keys. The other end goes to a stretchy wrist band (the kind that you see retail employees use when unlocking a case), which does go around my wrist. (You can get these items in the key aisle section of your local hardware store.) Looks totally dorky, but I don’t leave my backpack behind when I’ve set it on the floor, such as when I eat, and no one in a motor scooter can come by and snatch anything out of my hands (as when walking in Rome).

    They have tethers for dogs, for small children and for keys. Why not one for luggage? Perhaps Chris has a contact in the travel merchandise field that would want to design a less dorky looking version than the one I’ve rigged up! Of course, Chris, you’d deserve a share of any profits, since the suggestion came in via *your* website, right? :)

  • Mona

    Kathie in Mexico, please don’t let these stories keep you from crusing. It’s the best kind of vacation there is, especially for women – no cooking or cleaning up after, no bed making, just relax and enjoy the experience. I have taken over twenty cruises and never once have I had a bag damaged or lost. In fact, only once did I even have to wait more than an hour to have my bag delivered to my cabin; sometimes it gets there before I do! Maybe I’ve been lucky, but in my 60+ years of traveling, I’ve only had bags damaged twice and that was by airport baggage handlers. (Has to be luck – sure not because I’ve been living right all these years!) I hope you’ll reconsider and book that cruise!

  • Marjorie – Texas

    The biggest problem I see here is that he put his bag down, and had no way to keep tabs on it. My system is very simple – if I put my bag on the ground, my foot goes through the strap. If I am in a restauraunt, I place a strap under a leg of my chair.
    Of course the porters should have never smashed the camera either.

  • Jane

    I always travel with a backpack as my personal bag (Rick Steves has a great travel backpack – light, stylish, good size for travelling, and very comfortable to wear). Whenever I am between destinations, it is always strapped on to my back unless I am accessing it for something and even then it’s tightly held in my hands and never out of my sight. Wearing a backpack also allows me to use both hands to manage my own luggage. My husband and I travel light with one suitcase and one backpack each. Porters usually ignore us because they calculate they won’t get rich off of us with only one suitcase each, and they can’t grab our backpacks to try to extort a larger tip. So they turn their attention to the people with excessive amounts of luggage. We don’t mind one bit!!

  • Bela Fleck

    @ Kathie in Mexico: because you’ve never read any horror stories about airlines? Yeah, bad things happen in all kinds of places. But lots of people go on cruises and have a great time. You just won’t read about those stories here. Those stories are on other websites. I could tell you stories of three pretty darn good cruises I’ve been on, personally. Give it a chance. It’s hard to know you’ll like something until you try it for yourself. At a bare minimum, read the stories on both sides of the issue.

  • Sarah

    I’ve been on 3 cruises and will be going on my fourth soon. Use common sense but go and have a wonderful time!

  • FL Traveler (and RN)

    “Porters do not work for the cruiseline. It is entirely possible that RCI is not even at fault.” Even so, the cruise line bears some responsibility, even if it is to handle the claim seriously and in a timely matter. The bottomline might not be any different but I have a feeling the customer might have felt better about the whole thing. As it is, he will never sail with them again. Repeat this enough and it does efect business.

  • http://www.alluringinnovations.com Cassondra

    While this is a sad story and I do agree that RCI should do something for the customer, I also disagree with some of the commenters. I’ve personally only been on a cruise once (and it was RCI) but my mother has been cruising approx. twice a year for 8 years. She cruises most often with RCI but has also done Princess, Carnival, and a couple others. RCI is by far her favorite based on the QUALITY of service. Looking on the Cruise Critic message boards you will find much of the same sentiment. Every company makes mistakes but it doesn’t make them all bad and certainly shouldn’t keep people from cruising altogether unless they are experiencing the type of “service” that the TSA dishes out. I actually find it really amusing that someone would rather fly than cruise. The luggage carriers at airports are as bad or worse than porters AND you may subject yourself to sexual battery by TSA agents.