Ridiculous or not? When a “fuel surcharge” costs more than an airline ticket

When Walter Nissen signed up for a British Airways Chase Visa card recently, he thought he’d be jetting off to London after earning just 50,000 miles.

He overlooked one little detail: A glance at the fine print revealed he’d have to pay an extra $400 in fuel surcharges.

“We’re not talking a few dollars for mandatory government taxes and fees,” says Nissen, a computer scientist from Livermore, Calif. “Their secret surcharge goes right into British Airways’ pocket. That’s dishonest in my book.”

British Airways insists the surcharge isn’t a secret. The fee is clearly disclosed on its site.

“British Airways applies a fuel surcharge on all flights to reflect the fluctuating price of worldwide oil,” it says. “The surcharge is based on flight duration and applies to all passengers, including children and infants travelling on British Airways operated international and domestic services.”

How much is the surcharge? Well, that isn’t immediately clear.

One other thing: The surcharge is nonrefundable on most tickets. Refunds “can be made on fully flexible tickets only with unused flights in your itinerary,” it adds.

Indeed, British Airways, like many other international airlines, is playing something of a price game when it quotes a fare, even when you’re paying good money for the trip.

A recent fare search for a nonstop flight from San Francisco to London pulled up a roundtrip ticket price of $447. Not bad. The site continued to display this fare for two screens. But at the third screen it added taxes, fees, charges and surcharges, which brought the total up to $982.

Not good.

I asked the airline about its disclosure, and it said it was trying to be more up-front with passengers about its fees. “In our current seat sale, British Airways pays the fuel,” spokesman John Lampl told me.

That’s true. If you’re flying from the United States, the airline was offering roundtrip airfares starting at $420 between New York and London – a decent deal. But if you were flying from Canada, the promotion warns, prices don’t include “Canadian government security, insurance and fuel surcharges, airport fees, Air traveler’s Security charges and taxes.”

It’s not difficult to understand why airlines break out the prices in this way. It makes fares look cheaper, and when one airline does it, every airline has to do it – otherwise their prices will look a lot more expensive, putting them at a disadvantage.

Also, it’s perfectly legal. And maybe that’s the problem. The Transportation Department is considering a new rule that would require airlines to quote an “all-in” fare, including all mandatory fees and taxes. That would level the playing field and eliminate frustrations such as Nissen’s.

At least most of them. People earning mileage still have another hurdle to clear: finding a seat for their award ticket. At a minimum, that can involve some paperwork, but often it can also mean a lengthy wait and inconvenient flight times.

Is there a better way? Asking an honest-to-goodness travel agent to pull a fare quote from San Francisco to London might work better. A competent travel adviser would not only offer a full price, but might also have access to unpublished wholesale fares that could save you a buck or two.

  • Tom

    Breaking out the cost of fuel provides travelers with important information — if you think you’re saving the planet by buying a Prius, but then buying an additional $400 in fuel for your vacation, you are deluding yourself.

    As the price of oil rises, fuel represents an increasing percentage of an airlines costs. In the old days when fuel was 20 to 25 percent of costs, it made sense to roll them into the base cost. But if you are really buying fuel and the cost of the plane and crew are incidental, then it makes sense to charge for fuel.

    Either way, British Airways is behaving badly in the example you give. The EU might have mandated tea and crumpets for delayed passengers, but British Airways certainly isn’t offering a free lunch.

  • John

    Please, this is nothing. All of this shows how much easier travel is in the US than is places like Europe. You’ve been livig in the US too long. Search for virtually any airfare in the EU and you’ll see that taxes and surchages comprise the majority of the fare. You can have a $150 total fare out of which $49 is the base fare. But who cares? As long as you’re paying $150, you’re paying $150.

  • http://oussamastake.blogspot.com/ Oussama

    I flew with BA and one third of the total price was surcharges including fuel. BA is notorious when it comes to fuel surcharges. In the last crisis BA kept the fuel surcharge for a few months after the price of oil went down to below $40. My contribution to BA’s fuel hedging folly or just extra money from unsuspecting passengers. During this crisis a lot of airlines especially full service legacy airlines, will try to use the fuel surcharge not only to cover its fuel costs but make some money on the side.

  • DJP

    To put this in perspective I wonder what the risidual fuel costs per traveler should be if say you assume that a traveler plus their luggage is 250 lbs.

  • Jim

    BA is the very worst airline flying, recently dumped me (biz class) and a planeload of others flying London-Washington in Charlotte with no assistance (no hotel, no food, no rebook, no info) and no follow-up. Don’t fly BA, don’t let friends fly BA, avoid BA at all costs. They need simply add a D to their acronym to be fully truthful because it’s BAD.

  • Leland Ensor

    Fuel is a cost of doing business. Nobody would stand for Wal-Mart quoting $99 for a tv set and the final price becoming $399 because there were charges for a shopping cart, parking lot, security guard, light and heat, and property taxes. Only the airlines with their smarmy way of doing business and the contempt they routinely show their customers allowed to do this. As for BA, not only fuel surcharges, but the fact that the British Government is foisting fees for the scam and fallacy of “global warming” on to air tickets, makes BA and LHR the least competitive airline/hub combo to even consider. Frankly, I could care less about “saving the planet” 300 years from now. The British started the Industrial Revolution, scarred their own landscape, out-trapped all the furs from Canada, etc., and now want the rest of the world to pay the cost…typical Brit hubris.

  • Marc

    I thought this article was on fuel surcharges charged by BA but from the comments it appears just an opportunity to bash an airline. :)

    Listen… fuel surcharges suck, but they’re here to stay. What would mitigate this would be to disclose the exact cost of the surcharge UP FRONT (a statement saying “price of ticket does not include a XX% fuel surcharge which will be added to your final cost” or “price does not include a mandatory fuel surcharge of $XX” would be nice). If the consumer becomes an INFORMED consumer, I think it would go a long way towards contentment (note I did not say “happiness”) when purchasing a ticket.

  • BillC

    I am amazed that some people think the cost of fuel should not be included in the base price of an airfare. Is the fuel somehow optional? This is just a way for airlines to raise prices and claim to have kept the cost of a ticket down.
    I have no problem with breaking out taxes and optional items but to keep the cost of fuel separate is ridiculous.

  • Clare

    BillC and Leland are right-on–unless there’s some solar-powered option out there that I haven’t heard of yet, it’s not as if you can choose to use fuel on an airplane or not, as some added perk! Can you imagine dining out at a restaurant and finding a surcharge on your bill at the end for the cost of electricity? If it costs you more to provide X to your customers, then you raise the price of X, like anyone else would do! It’s not rocket-science… just basic math.

  • Andrew, NYC

    I can understand the “unbundling” practice when the passenger is being nickel-and-dimed for luggage, food, pillow, etc. — as long as these charges are clearly disclosed and VOLUNTARY. A “surcharge” that you HAVE to pay, just like a “resort fee”, should be included in the fare.

  • cjr

    Maybe I could see ‘unbundling’ as a good thing… if not for the fact that the airlines are simply using it to trick people into thinking that the fares are actually low when in truth they are not.

  • Roberto

    This is a great example of why airline points are worthless. “Just 25,000 for a free ticket!” they tell you when you sign up for the program. Except when you try to redeem points for that “free” ticket, you have to pay huge charges and fees.

    Any price quoted should include all mandatory fees and surcharges. If airlines want to make a point about how expensive taxes and fuel are, fine. Show an itemized receipt or something. But when you quote a fare, don’t just pull a number out of a hat that doesn’t represent reality.

  • http://www.santafetravelers.com santafetraveler

    I think everything (including baggage) should be in the ticket price. If you are flying, the plane obviously needs fuel and you need luggage (i”m tire of tripping on wheelies in the aisles). I don’t know how much fuel a plane consumes but $400 seems excessive. What’s the profit margin and should airlines be allowed to make a profit on fuel charges?
    Air fares are really climbing. Are we going to get to a point where only the wealthy can fly? Who are the airlines going to put in the “cheap” seats?

  • http://www.skytoaster.com/ Logan

    It’s been said before, but I’ll say it again: Southwest does things right. Go try to book any flight on Southwest.com: the price you click after inputting your tip’s salient details is the price you pay, give or take a few cents. You’ll see on the next page how they’ve added their base fare to the required taxes & such to make the pretty number you saw on the second page.

  • Duke Nukem

    It’s a tax scam, people! You separate them, you don’t have to report them! You only report taxes on the $99, but keep the whole pie of the $499 fuel surcharge (that word in itself, SURCHARGE, SUCKS!!!)!

  • Aaron

    Ridiculous. Just another attempt to get better placement on Expedia, Orbitz, etc.

  • flutiefan

    just an FYI to Clare, who asked about restaurants imposing electricity surcharges: many restaurants in California did JUST THAT not even 10 years ago, during the energy crisis with Enron, Gray Davis, and the whole mess that led to Schwarzenegger being elected . (and i wouldn’t be surprised if those who did never quite stopped the practice.)

    so yes, i CAN imagine.

  • Steve

    Fuel surcharges are ridiculous. Anything that is a mandatory part of the flight should be included in the base fare. If the airline needs to charge more to cover rising fuel costs (which is totally understandable), then they should raise the base fare.

  • http://margerywilson.com Margery

    The airline industry is playing to human nature. They know we are drawn by low prices so the bait is the low airfare, and they are banking on our willingness to suspend common sense and treat fuel charges like a tax (which most of us have come to accept as a necessary evil). If you compare the costs of two identical trips — one on an airline that breaks out the fuel surcharge and another that does not — you will see the total prices are (usually) the same.

    At least airlines publish the fuel surcharges (but only because they are required to do so by law). Cruise lines don’t have any legal reason to disclose the fuel surcharges up front and many people are shocked to find the charges added after they commit to paying for the cruise tickets.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ Aaron – “Ridiculous. Just another attempt to get better placement on Expedia, Orbitz, etc.”
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    That is true on Expedia where they only show six airlines at one time; however, Orbitz shows all the airlines. I just did a search from LAX to LHR and Obritz shows the fares of nineteen airlines in a single view.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    I don’t know what is the big deal. It has been reported the the majority of people use a fare search enginee (i.e. Orbitz, Expedia, etc) to look at fares before booking their fares. When I can’t take an US Airways flight, I will use Orbitz to find flights and fares then book directly with the airline.

    I just went to Orbitz to do a fare check and they show the fares with taxes, surcharges and fees. If a person doesn’t use Orbitz or a similar site where the total fare is listed and only deal with an airline website, they can’t stop if they think that the fare is too high before buying a ticket.

    If BA doesn’t show the surcharges and etc. until the later stages of the booking, a person can always stop if they think that the final fare is too high.

    One option is to pay $ 25 per ticket and have a travel agent to book your tickets. Another option is to do it yourself. It comes down to what value do you put on your time to do the researching of fares.

  • Roberto Pascal

    If the surcharges seem excessive then use the miles on a BA partner. There are lots of options out there, just look at MilePoint or FlyerTalk and learn some tricks.

  • Brooklyn

    Lately there have been a lot of posts about how it’s better to buy directly from the airline, but here’s one reason to buy from Expedia. If I’m on an airline’s site, ready to buy a ticket, and the fare suddenly goes up, I leave the site immediately and go back to Expedia even if the end price of the ticket would have been lower on the airline’s site. American Airlines doesn’t exist for me anymore; now that they’re not on Expedia and Orbitz, I’ll have nothing to do with them. I wonder if the airline records the number of people who back out when the price goes up from the surcharge? I hope so; it’s our only way to show them how they disgust us.

  • MarkieA

    Besides the “apparent lower fare” reason, isn’t there a tax advantage to “fees” versus “fares”? I’m no accountant, but I thought I read somewhere a while back that all of these fees, surcharges, etc. were taxed differently (less, I would assume) than revenue from airfare. If they can tie a fee to a government requirement, there’s a tax advantage somehow. I could be totally out of the ballpark on this, but I’m fairly sure I heard something like this when this whole fiasco started.

  • Ed

    I have to agree with Leland Ensor.
    It’s the price of doing business…I would be really upset if I went to the grocery store to purchase an item only to find that the price of the item on the shelf did not include the cost of the store doing business…When I bring an item to the register to pay for it, I expect that the price printed on the item is the price I’m paying!
    I remember way back in the 70′s when bar-coded items were first coming out and the register used a bar-code scanner to get the price of the item. Most stores back then had a rule to make customers comfortable with the lack of price stickers on every item that if the price rung up at the register was different than the price on the shelf, the customer would get the item for free, thereby guaranteeing that the price the customer saw was the actual price the customer paid. Why is this so difficult for the airlines, car rentals and hotel operators to understand?

  • Dang

    This week I try to book a ticket to Paris :
    - I have 50000 BA miles, enough for a free round trip tickets to Paris, but the taxes and fuel surcharges come to 545$.
    - Expedia give a quote of 544$ for a round trip ticket, all taxes and surcharges included, for the same dates on CORSAIR FLY and I don’t have spend any miles.
    So my 50,000 BA miles worth MINUS ONE dollar.

  • Roger

    I have made three reservations using frequent flier miles in the past two weeks; to make sure my wife and I were on the same flight(s) I booked on United, SFO to CDG, on United, as two one way reservations. The web site states that the free tickets do not include additional fees and taxes; however, on the SFO to CDG sector, with a change of plane in ORD, I paid only $5 per ticket (presumably the US airport security fee for each take-off from a US airport). On the return flight from CDG to SFO the fees were $92 approx. each ticket – once again I assume the US imposed fees for immigration and customs services. No fuel or other surcharges … am I in for a surprise when I check in for these flights? I believe not, as I have been issued two e-tickets.

    I also used frequent flier miles on American for a flight for my son, for the same routing (SFO-CDG and back), and the charges were identical: $5 outbound, on a through flight SFO to BOS, with a stop at ORD (same plane and flight number however, so there is apparently no security charge for the stop at ORD). And again, the return fees also amounted to $92 approx; so American also does not have any extra fees.

    I have no frequent flier miles on British Airways, but I have noticed when checking fares from SFO to CDG that their fares often come up among the lowest, but when you run through a reservation, the final cost is very similar to the other competing airlines … they could include these “fuel surcharges” in their base fares, and why therefore use BA when the other airlines flying to either London or Paris, are more honest and upfront about the final costs early on in the online reservation process.

  • http://www.thetravelinggiraffe.com Crissy

    I believe part of the reason they break down the prices the way they do is because of how their contracts are with some companies. They might have a set price in their contracts and can charge them extra with the fuel surcharge, but if they just raised ticket fares it would only affect passengers booking on their own and not their contracts. I could have that slightly off. But it makes you look at the issue slightly differently. Could they re-bundle it on their website, sure? but in the end you’re paying the same price.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ Brooklyn – “American Airlines doesn’t exist for me anymore; now that they’re not on Expedia and Orbitz, I’ll have nothing to do with them.”
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    The fares for Southwest Airlines have NEVER been included in any fare search engines like Expedia, Orbitz, Kayak, etc.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ Roberto Pascal – “If the surcharges seem excessive then use the miles on a BA partner. There are lots of options out there, just look at MilePoint or FlyerTalk and learn some tricks.”
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    You are right about MilePoint or FlyerTalker to learn how to maximize your miles. Another option is to trade your airlines miles for other airline miles; convert miles into hotel points; etc. at Points.com (you can manage over 100 loyalty programs at Points.com).

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ John – “Please, this is nothing…You can have a $150 total fare out of which $49 is the base fare. But who cares? As long as you’re paying $150, you’re paying $150.”
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    I agree. According to a recent report that I read, most travelers select the airline for their travels based upon which airline has the lowest fares; therefore, most travelers use a fare search engine like Expedia, Orbitz, Kayak, etc. to find the airline with the lowest fares instead of going to each airline website to find the fares or use the services of a traditional brick & mortar travel agent.

    This morning, I went to Orbitz to check for fares from LAX to LHR (departing – 6/12/11 and returning – 7/10/11). The fares for the direct flights were:

    Virgin Atlantic: $ 1,301 (base fare was $ 764)
    UA: $1,356 ($ 819)
    CO: $ 1,356 ($ 819)
    British Airways: $ 1,554 ($ 1,017)
    Air New Zealand: $ 1,434 ($897)
    Iberia: $ 1,609 ($ 1,072)
    bmi: $ 2,328 ($ 1,828)

    The average difference between the base fare and the total fare for the above fares was 51.57%.

    As John commented, who care what is the base fare since the total fare is listed.

  • Walt N

    OP here. Can anyone find a link that specifies the amounts of BA fuel surcharges? I cannot. It’s a secret until you get to the final price!

  • AgSweep

    So a 747-400 uses approximately 28,000 pds of fuel per hour. It’s a 10 hr flight from la to lon. There are 6.84 pds/gal, 416 passengers and jet fuel is about $3.89/gal. So that’s about $382.00 for fuel person. Assuming that the $400 surcharge was roundtrip, BA is charging about 1/2 of the fuel price as the surcharge. If fuel went up $1.00 the per person cost would be $481.00. They say the surcharge is for fluctuations, it seems like it is more than that.

  • Dang

    @Walt N – Go to BA and make an award booking , when the surcharge showed , click on the button I for Information. here are an example for Montreal-London-Montreal (FUEL SURCHARGE 314$CAD)
    Air Travellers Security Charge – Canada CAD 25.91
    Airport Improvement Fee – Canada CAD 25.00
    Air Passenger Duty – United Kingdom CAD 95.60
    Passenger Service Charge – United Kingdom CAD 48.80
    Total government, authority and airport charges* CAD 195.31

    Government, authority and airport charges
    Flight taxes, fees and charges
    These are included in the price of your ticket and are levied by airport operators, governments, or other authorities, excepting US originating flights where government, authority and airport taxes and fees are stated separately.
    Some airports may levy local taxes, fees or charges against passengers upon arrival or departure. These are not included in the price of your ticket and should be paid locally.
    British Airways fees and surcharges Per adult
    Fuel Surcharge** CAD 314.00
    Insurance and Security Surcharge** CAD 16.00
    Total British Airways fees and surcharges CAD 330.00

    Insurance and security surcharges
    British Airways applies a passenger surcharge on all flights to cover insurance and security. This surcharge applies to all passengers including children and infants on both international and domestic flights.
    Fuel surcharges
    British Airways applies a fuel surcharge on all flights to reflect the fluctuating price of worldwide oil.
    The surcharge is based on flight duration and applies to all passengers, including children and infants travelling on British Airways operated international and domestic services.
    Total taxes, fees and surcharges per person CAD 525.31$

  • Mark K

    @ Arizona R W “The fares for Southwest Airlines have NEVER been included in any fare search engines like Expedia, Orbitz, Kayak, etc”

    True, and Southwest now carries more passengers than any other US based airline. Maybe that’s what AA is thinking will happen to them now that they are not found on many of the search sites. ;-)

  • Mark K

    @Margery

    The cruise fuel surcharge is the most annoying thing ever when it comes to travel. Most don’t charge the surcharge until you board the ship at the start of the cruise. You have no way of knowing what it will be until that point.

    At least with the airlines they do tell you before you actually buy the ticket.

    Since fuel is not an option on either a ship or a plane if you are actually going anywhere, I believe that both should just include it in the cost of the ticket. But I guess that will never happen as long as travelers keep selecting the lowest initial price shown them during the selection process.

  • Jake

    If I can’t decline the fee, it should be in the base fare. Period. Otherwise it’s just false advertising.

  • Bill

    I don’t like the fuel surcharges being added, but when I reserve and pay for a flight it really doesn’t make much difference.

    However, in the case of an award ticket, I think it unjust. You are, in my mind, supposed to be getting a free ticket which would include everything the airline would provide to a paying passenger. Award tickets should have the customs charge, departure taxes etc, but no fuel charge.

    Can you imagine a free dinner at a restaurant but being expected to pay a fee for the food?

  • cjr

    “You have no way of knowing what it will be until that point. ”

    I find this hard to believe.

    Maybe it’s just a DCL thing, but we’ve cruised when the fuel surcharges were in place, and we had no trouble with them whatsoever: whether it was how much we would be charged, or even if we would be charged.

    During the last round of fuel surcharges for the cruise industry, I seem to recall it being quite easy to find information on which companies were doing what. In fact, there were entire news articles detailing what each company was doing.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ Mark K – “True, and Southwest now carries more passengers than any other US based airline. Maybe that’s what AA is thinking will happen to them now that they are not found on many of the search sites. ;-)”
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    The reason why the Southwest fares are not included on any fare search engine is simple…they do NOT have the lowest fares. Southwest did a terrific job of marketing themselves of having discounted fares that the public think that they have the lowest fares thus several people won’t even look at other airlines websites, fare search engine websites, etc.

    Based upon my experiences, the Southwest fares for the PHX markets are the same or higher than the US Airways fares. Sometimes, I have found Southwest fares to be as $ 150 higher than the US Airways fares.

    The reasons for the AA fares not being on Orbitz and Expedia had to do with money…it is not late for AA to rebrand themselves as a discounter.

  • MVFlyer

    Another way BA has got the consumers by whatever appropriate body part that they can grab: the darn fuel surcharge is non-refundable! WHY?

    If you don’t fly, shouldn’t the surcharge be refunded? (I know the airfare may not be refundable, which you agree to by buying that fare, but what about the surcharge?) Do they really buy the gas for that flight on that day several days/weeks in advance? And, if they sell your seat to someone else, do they not collect the surcharge again, effectively double-dipping?

    Nothing buy a de facto fare increase without calling it an increase.

  • bodega

    This morning, I went to Orbitz to check for fares from LAX to LHR (departing – 6/12/11 and returning – 7/10/11). The fares for the direct flights were:

    Virgin Atlantic: $ 1,301 (base fare was $ 764)
    UA: $1,356 ($ 819)
    CO: $ 1,356 ($ 819)
    British Airways: $ 1,554 ($ 1,017)
    Air New Zealand: $ 1,434 ($897)
    Iberia: $ 1,609 ($ 1,072)
    bmi: $ 2,328 ($ 1,828)

    The average difference between the base fare and the total fare for the above fares was 51.57%.

    As John commented, who care what is the base fare since the total fare is listed.

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    The reason why the Southwest fares are not included on any fare search engine is simple…they do NOT have the lowest fares. Southwest did a terrific job of marketing themselves of having discounted fares that the public think that they have the lowest fares thus several people won’t even look at other airlines websites, fare search engine websites, etc.
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    If you understood fares then you wouldn’t be making these comments. You undestand final price which could go know if you knew about the base fare. 99% of the time all carriers flying the same route have the same base fares. Once the lowerst fare is sold out, the next higher fare is shown. WN often has web fares that are lower than their competitors but you can only find those fares on their website, we don’t even get them in our GDS.

    You are very correct regarding WN’s marketing. They have done a great job and are often the first to sell out their lower priced seats, so when you go online to look for fares, you are seeing what is left. There is no place online that allows you to pull up base fares and rules on one screen as I have access to in my GDS. Why is that important? You then know what routing you can work within, what other days of the week this fare is applicable to if you are flexible on your travel dates, what time restrictions might be a part of fare so by moving your flight time you might save on the fare, what cities you can fly from and through, what codeshares you can use, etc. All these effect the base fare. The list of international prices you posted only tell you prices, not the whys and why nots, which are a part of that fare.

    FYI:
    Direct means stops in route no change of plane.
    Nonstop means once your flight takes off, no stops in route.
    Connecting means you stop in route and change planes.

  • DaveS

    Absolutely every non-avoidable cent that goes to the airline must be disclosed upfront. The airlines are, of course, different from some other industries, in that they sell a commodity at a certain price months in advance, before they know what their costs will be in providing that commodity. You do not pay a restaurant meal or groceries months before you take possession of them the way you do with an airline seat. The comparisons aren’t valid. But I agree with those who say it’s a gimmick to make the base price look low by comparison.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sujey-Gonzalez/100001805600584 Sujey Gonzalez

    Ugh! This surcharge has now stressed me and a friend who chose EF Tours to go on a trip to France. We were so excited, and now we wish we had never signed up for the trip! 

  • Christine

    What I find ridiculous is that EACH PASSENGER is charged $400 for a “fuel surcharge.” I was attempting to book a flight to Madrid and flights looked super cheap until I was looking at paying $800 for FUEL. I can’t imagine that if we charged EVERY PASSENGER on the airplane $400 PLUS the cost of their ticket that there wouldn’t be some “left over cash.” It angers me beyond belief. I don’t mind paying a little extra for gas but be realistic to the actual COST.

  • Christine

    I think the problem is that the fuel surcharge is SO high. In my case from JFK to Madrid, it was $423 each person. I have a hard time believing that my partner and I would cost $850 in fuel to get from here to Madrid when combined with a plane full of other passengers paying the same amount. I’d love to see the math on that.

  • Alxkp71

    I just lost GBP 300.00 on a GBP 390.00 non-refundable ticket from London to NYC with Virgin Atlantic (which I had to cancel 3hrs after booking)
    Base fare was GBP 75.00 and fuel surcharge 175.00 the rest admin fees.
    Relatively annoying! 
    Where I concede that the plane needs fuel wether I fly or not – I would still think an airline is going to fill up there planes according to how full the plane actually is, i.e. if they did not resell my ticket anyway I reckon carrying less weight they’d put less fuel in the tank???And if an airline refunds airport taxes I did not incur should there not be at least a partial refund on fuel surcharges???
    Or is that just some illogic thinking in my upset mind?

  • Ex BA passenger

    BA simply took the “fare” and split it into “fare” and “fees” with the “fees” being much higher than the “fare”. Frequent flyer miles only cover the fare. So now, rather than a free flight with say 50 dollars in fees, you look at 400-500 dollars for a free flight. I dumped my BA visa and now use a credit card that gives me cash back.