Ridiculous or not? Lie-flat airline seats = snoring epidemic

While everyone else is touting the benefits of new “lie-flat” airline seats in business- and first class, I know I can count on you, dear readers, to find a “down” side.

And here it is.

As you probably know, a lot of airlines have been adding new seats to their premium cabins that recline into small beds. United Airlines last month announced it would spend $550 million to install these recliners and make other improvements to its fleet.

American Airlines, in an effort to outdo its competitor, even said it would add “turndown” service to its first class cabin.

So what’s wrong with that?

Well, nothing. I’d donate a kidney have one of those seats on my next trans-Pacific flight instead of being squeezed into sardine class.

Except maybe this: When you sleep lying flat, gravity weighs down on the soft tissues of your pharynx. Your palate, tonsils, and tongue are pulled backwards, which narrows the airway just enough to cause — yep, that’s right — snoring!

“With some airlines moving towards flat beds in first and business class, what does this mean for people who actually want to sleep and not be bothered by someone who’s snoring?” asks reader Merrill Albert. “I have been kept awake numerous times by someone snoring very loudly.”

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None of the major US airlines address snoring anywhere in their published policies, and I wouldn’t expect them to. That’s because it’s unusual for a passenger to sleep for any extended period of time, let alone get into a position where snoring is possible. Rather, snoring incidents are handled on a case by case basis by the flight crew.

“Yes,” admits Pasquale Goglia, “it was me. And I put my CPAP machine on. Don’t leave home without it.”

(A CPAP, shorthand for continuous positive airway pressure, is a breathing therapy machine used by heavy snorers.)

“I always bring ear plugs,” says reader Joe Reynolds. “The wax ones that adapt to the ear canal and give a good sound seal.”

Earplugs also help block some of the engine noise, allowing you to sleep. I always carry earplugs or noise-canceling headphones, and an eye mask on longer flights. It’s the only way to rest, and nothing stops a chatty seatmate who can’t buy a clue like earplugs and blinders.

Kevin Morgan, an admitted snorer, tries to stay awake on flights to avoid a confrontation with another passenger.

“I try as much as possible to stay awake on flights, but the tedium can get to me, and often I’m traveling with little sleep before I have to hit the airport,” he says. “Caffeine only goes so far, especially when the service is often slow and skimpy on flights.”

So he tries to warn anyone sitting next to him that he snores. He even brings earplugs to offer his seatmates.

“But there’s only so much I can do,” he says.

I think Albert has made an astute observation. As the number of lie-flat seats expands, so, too, will the snoring incidents. What if the guy next to you is cutting a few very loud “Zs”?

“If I did have a snorer, I would jab them awake — repeatedly if necessary — and notify a flight attendant,” says Janine Johnson. “It’s a simple matter of keeping this sufferer awake till they can sleep in private. I sympathize with the person but again, they need to be considerate of others and take meds, get surgery, or sleep before they fly. If not, they are guilty of having a ‘me’ attitude, which we all must obliterate.”

I agree with Johnson in one respect: If you know you have a snoring problem and you curl up in lie-flat seat on a 12-hour flight without a CPAP machine, you’re being selfish to the rest of your seatmates (or in this case, bedmates). You have no right to keep everyone awake.

In another sense, this is a good problem to have. It means that airlines are offering more passengers the opportunity to have a good night’s sleep, and how can you fault them for that?

An entire plane of passengers sleeping in the horizontal position would mean airlines have trashed their steerage class cabins, which probably violated several articles of the Geneva Convention, anyway.

Bring on the snorers, I say.

(Photo: Tom Masc ard/Flickr)

  • bill

    cool story, bro.

  • John R. Strohm

    Ron, a CPAP is an electronic device capable of generating significant amounts of radio-frequency interference.  They may be carried aboard in SOME jurisdictions, but that does not necessarily mean they may be operated during the flight.  Check with the airline.

    Furthermore, just because the FAA says it can be hauled doesn’t mean the rest of the world will agree.  Early this year, I had occasion to fly FRA->BKK, Business Class on THAI.  My normal load is two carryons: backpack containing DSLR camera, notebook computer, CD player and Bose headphones, rolling bag containing CPAP, asthma nebulizer compressor and supplies, and other medications.  Total mass: about 20 kg.  THAI has a 10 kg/passenger carryon weight limit.  The THAI gate agents in FRA absolutely refused to allow the excess, no matter how many times I attempted to explain that this was medical equipment that *HAD* to go with me.  I finally managed to persuade them to allow me to carry the asthma nebulizer kit and the backpack.  (I think someone realized that having to divert the airplane because of a PREVENTABLE in-flight medical emergency might have caused some unpleasant questions to be asked.)  The CPAP had to be checked.  You better believe I was concerned.

    I should add that this was strictly THAI, and I suspect that it was strictly THAI in Frankfurt.  I have had zero problems with AA.  I had one short difficulty with a Delta feeder line flight attendant, on a CRJ-700, that was resolved by explaining that this was medical equipment and medications, for me, and let’s at least SEE if it will fit in the overhead bin.  (It did.)  I had a little bit of discussion with JAL in Bangkok two trips back, because the CPAP and the nebulizer compressor are both electronic devices, capable of causing interference.  The problem was solved when I explained that I would not be using the CPAP in flight, and the nebulizer compressor turned out to be on their “Approved” list.  Next time I checked in at JAL in Bangkok, on the most recent trip, the gate agent said “I have a note here that you carry an asthma nebulizer compressor, for emergency use.  Is that correct?”  Yes.  It was no problem, now that they knew about it.

  • http://twitter.com/travelingiraffe Crissy

    I’m sure there will be issues, just as there are with reclining seats and arm rests.  But, I’m sure they’ll be even more isolated.  It would probably help if the airlines handed out ear plugs to passengers in lie flat seat cabins. But that might cost money, ACK!

  • ChrisY

    I believe this is what’s referred to as a “first world problem”

  • ChrisY

    I believe this is what’s referred to as a “first world problem”

  • Beachglass

    Agreed on the expense – would rather spend it at the destination, not on the plane hours.  Poking a stranger?  I probably wouldn’t.  I will jab my husband (and he me, truth be told) when snoring…. but then ~ if they were close enough (which in coach they certainly are) I might be tempted to do a little passive agressive nudging….repeated nudging….they don’t usually notice – they just shift position and sometimes the sound is reduced (speaking from experience at home, doncha know)

  • Molly8061

    I too am upset that the airlines spend so much to make those in First and Biz comfy while seemingly working their hardest to insure that those in Coach have a miserable flying experience.  The pitch is unhealthy and unbearable.  Love Jet Blue – not only is their pitch more generous than anyone else’s, but for a little bit more, you can even buy more pitch.  SMART!  Too bad they don’t fly to Europe.
    Also, our domestic airlines have competely ignored the Economy Plus concept. Air France, British Air, Qantas, Air New Zealand, does this class of service brilliantly.  Why AA, UA, CO, DL etc haven’t embraced this is a shame.  UA’s extra pitch isn’t the same.

    Fortunately, I’m often in Biz Class because I’m often flying on the company “dime”, but I’ve noticed just as many snorers in coach as I have in biz class. I wear earplugs and do my best to cope as I’m a light sleeper.

    Fred S, and Geographer – Your racist  – and untrue – comments have no place here and I wish the moderator would remove them.  

  • Bidi bidi

    My husband snores when he falls asleep  in flight, but we found the Breathe Max Nasal Breather online and ordered it.  It stops his  snoring and allows me to sleep and we do not have to worry that he is disturbing other passengers.

  • http://dreamtravelblog.wordpress.com/author/jt10s/ James in Phnom Penh

    Talented!

  • http://dreamtravelblog.wordpress.com/author/jt10s/ James in Phnom Penh

    It was a JOKE, ppl. Get over it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SYR4YYOAPY4X3UUYLPCADARF3Q emanon256

    Don’t forget the male part too.  They are typically White Males.

  • Paciftravl

    The Australian overseas carrier is QANTAS, not Quantas although it’s pronounced that way,  and should be spelled all caps because it is an acronym: Queensland And Northern Territory Aerial Services.
    NEVER Quantas.

  • Leslie

    I’m sure that every snorer is different, but in the case of my husband, I know he would snore in economy OR first class.  It’s all in how his neck is positioned.  Personally, I know I’m a light sleeper, and anyone around me making even the slightest bit of noise will wake me up, but I don’t expect the other passengers around me to cater to my sleeping needs.  It’s a plane, not a hotel.  If I think there’s any chance I might want to sleep on the plane, I bring my earplugs and a bottle of Tylenol PM.  Works like a charm!

  • Frequent Traveler

    I’ve travelled in business class for work many times and I haven’t found snoring to be too big of an issue.  I find the plane’s background noise so loud that I often don’t hear it.  I usually bring earplugs and this typically does a good job.

    What I find worse than snoring, in any seat class, is body odor.  I recently was on a 15 hour flight to Australia in business class and had to endure sitting near the most foul smelling man I had smelled in my life.  His offending odor reeked throughout the cabin and because his body odor wasn’t enough, he proceeded to take off his shoes as well.  You could tell this made everyone uncomfortable, including the flight attendants.  Next time, I will bring Febreeze along with my earplugs.  Don’t get offended if I spray Febreeze at you because you thought it was a good idea to not shower for 2 weeks before getting on a 15 hour flight!

  • Claire

    Noise cancelling headphones are well padded, quite comfortable and cost far less than a front-of-plane seat. Plug ‘em into the plane’s entertainment system and tune into your music of choice. G’night.

  • Claire

    Noise cancelling headphones are well padded, quite comfortable and cost far less than a front-of-plane seat. Plug ‘em into the plane’s entertainment system and tune into your music of choice. G’night.

  • Linda Bator

    Actually, they give you the noise-cancelling headphones, so really don’t see what the problem is?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3NEI5VPR3OHW6EUIOQC54YZFEE Joseph Daniels

    Janine Johnson best think twice about startling a snorer with a jab.  If she had me as seat mate she would be in deep trouble.  I attack when anything like that is done to me.  Even my wife wakes me by grabbing a toe a shaking it and quietly saying my name.  I have PTSD left over from from Viet Nam.  Along with PTSD I snore.  Loudly and have apenea.  If I could get my CPAP through security without be accused of being a terrorist plus put it on while stuffed in seat I would.  If Janine will be that aggressive the person she tries to stop from snoring she will receive what she deserves whether or not she really is female.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3NEI5VPR3OHW6EUIOQC54YZFEE Joseph Daniels

    Janine Johnson best think twice about startling a snorer with a jab.  If she had me as seat mate she would be in deep trouble.  I attack when anything like that is done to me.  Even my wife wakes me by grabbing a toe a shaking it and quietly saying my name.  I have PTSD left over from from Viet Nam.  Along with PTSD I snore.  Loudly and have apenea.  If I could get my CPAP through security without be accused of being a terrorist plus put it on while stuffed in seat I would.  If Janine will be that aggressive the person she tries to stop from snoring she will receive what she deserves whether or not she really is female.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3NEI5VPR3OHW6EUIOQC54YZFEE Joseph Daniels

    Janine Johnson best think twice about startling a snorer with a jab.  If she had me as seat mate she would be in deep trouble.  I attack when anything like that is done to me.  Even my wife wakes me by grabbing a toe a shaking it and quietly saying my name.  I have PTSD left over from from Viet Nam.  Along with PTSD I snore.  Loudly and have apenea.  If I could get my CPAP through security without be accused of being a terrorist plus put it on while stuffed in seat I would.  If Janine will be that aggressive the person she tries to stop from snoring she will receive what she deserves whether or not she really is female.