Ridiculous or not: Do flight attendants really hate us?

When, exactly, did flight attendants stop caring about us?

I ask for two reasons: First, because of the luscious new trailers for the upcoming TV show Pan Am (see clip, above), which depicts svelte young stewardesses – yes, that’s what they were called back then – serving passengers.

Hard to swallow, that one. But yes, they served passengers back in the day.

And second, because of the preponderance of horror stories from readers like you that suggest things have gone too far in the other direction. That far from the “coffee, tea, or me?” stereotypes of pre-deregulation air travel, modern-day flight attendants employers actually hate us.

Well, “hate” may be too strong a word. How about “strongly dislike”?

Consider the latest American Customer Satisfaction Index numbers. Here are the 10 worst-performing companies, according to the survey. The score you see next to the company is on a scale of 1 to 100.

1. Pepco Holdings (54)
2. Delta Air Lines (56)
3. Time Warner Cable (59)
4. Comcast (59)
5. Charter Communications (59)
6. United Airlines (61)
7. US Airways (62)
8. American Airlines (63)
9. Continental (64)
10. UnitedHealth (65)

That’s five airlines in the top 10. You have to work pretty hard to pull in that kind of performance, and it can only happen with the full cooperation of your employees.

But it’s the stories from passengers like you that make me wonder if the love has turned to hate. And I’m not even talking about the headline-grabbing reports like flight attendant Steven Slater’s meltdown on JetBlue Airways.

Lea McFall was flying from India back to the States when one of her friends started feeling a little ill. The likely cause was her final meal in Delhi. She had a severe case of food poisoning.

“She was sick in the restroom for quite a while, completely ignored by the flight attendants,” she says. “And she was in the back of the plane, in their hangout area.”

When she mentioned that she was concerned her friend might need medical attention, a flight attendant shrugged her off, telling her, “This happens all the time.”

Her friend tried to lie down on several empty seats, but a purser shook her awake and told her those seats belonged to the crewmembers.

“I couldn’t believe how rude the flight attendants were about it,” she says. “We felt completely helpless, and they didn’t seem to care at all that she was sick – only cared about having a place to sit for their break.”

Her friend eventually recovered, but McFall’s faith in American Airlines was shaken. She says she’ll avoid the carrier, if possible.

Reader Nancy Hicks tells another story of crewmember callousness. She was flying with crutches after a recent foot operation, and notified United Airlines she’d need a wheelchair at the airport. Instead, she was greeted by a “surly” skycap who waved her into the terminal without trying to help.

“That’s where the wheelchair people all wait,” he yelled. “Everyone knows that.”

She eventually had to board the small regional jet by herself in crutches, in the pouring rain.

“Not a single person from the airline even attempted to help me or find another way to get me onto the plane,” she says. (She is, of course, referring to the flight attendants who she assumed would lend her a hand, but didn’t.)

I get stories like hers on an almost-daily basis, from flight attendants who refuse to help you stow your luggage in the overhead bin because it’s against union rules, to crewmembers just being indifferent or just plain rude.

And while I understand the reasons behind some of them – for example, lifting luggage can be one of the main causes of injuries among crewmembers, and let’s not overlook management’s role in all of this – there’s really never an excuse to be impolite.

I’m especially troubled by a saying that’s used a lot, mostly privately, among flight attendants: “We’re here to save your butt – not kiss it.”

If the “service” element had actually been stripped out of the flight attendant’s job description, then why not hire security guards or EMTs to take their place? Wouldn’t they do a far more efficient job of saving or protecting lives? (Also, their uniforms would be cheaper.)

No, I don’t think all flight attendants hate us. But too many of them seem to, according to passengers.

That’s no way to fly.

  • Frank

    ONE OF OUT SIX F/A’s will prepare a cabin for an emergency.  I’ve personally performed CPR and AED on someone.  My old roommate years ago, prepared the cabin twice.  I know someone who’s evacuated an aircraft TWICE.  You’re knowledge in what we do and how often was simply a guess, SIRWIRED.  Medical emergencies are quite common as well.

  • James L. Morrison

    I am an elite flyer on Delta, American, and United. In all of my flying experiences, I only had contact with two flight attendants who bordered on being surly for no reason that I could tell, one who served first class on an American flight and one who served economy on USAirways. Overwhelmingly, the flight attendants with whom I had contact were friendly and helpful. 

  • Jack

    Sadly, the Senate hearings on organized crime, during the 1950s, teach us the most important “safety” rule for travel on US-based airlines:  Say very little to flight attendants and speak only to assert your fifth amendment right to remain silent!

    See “Coffee, tea or handcuffs?” at:

    http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20070920/news_lz1e20sterns.html

    and

    http://consumerist.com/2009/12/asking-for-orange-juice-on-aa-may-violate-federal-law.html

  • Tony A.

    Hey Flutiefan, you might want to read this article on Airline Pilot Pay.
    http://airlinepilotmentor.com/airline-pilot-life/airline-pilot-pay.aspx
    He clearly lays out his paycheck details.

    Paycheck 1
    862.50 (23/Hr X 37.5Hrs)
    862.50 (Total Payment)

    The second paycheck contains the second half of the pilots MMG, all Per Diem
    accrued during the previous month, any Add Pay from the previous month.
    Example: second paycheck covering approximately two weeks will be payment for
    37.5 flight hours, 322 hours Per Diem, 5 hours Add Pay.

    Paycheck 2
    862.50 (23/Hr X 37.5Hrs)
    579.60 (1.60/Hr X 322Hrs)
    115.00 (23/Hr X 5Hrs)
    1557.10 (Total Payment)

    Total income for the month

    2419.60 (Income for the month)
    80 flight hours
    322 hours away from base

    By Eric Stoltz
    Captain, EMB145

    ExpressJet Airlines

    Are you now convinced that pilots are paid by the hour?

  • flutiefan

    NO, do you read? i clearly said MY AIRLINE does not pay per hour. i think i’d know.

  • Tony A.

    Sorry misread your answer. You must work for SWA which uses that Trip For Pay (TFP) system and not the common Block Time / Hour system.

  • http://twitter.com/marared Jaime

    I fly 3-5x a year, almost exclusively on various American airlines; I’ve seen far more rude passengers than rude FAs. I think the only one that really comes to mind is one woman who crabbed at me for using my netbook when we were sitting at the gate during a long delay with no ETD. (if we’re not moving anytime soon, what’s the problem?)

    Some FAs are more pleasant than others in terms of making time to interact  with passengers, but I generally think of them as a service crew who are there to make sure we’re safe and served amenities as necessary – not my personal in-flight entertainment, bellhop, or captive audience for complaints about the flight industry in general. They’ve got enough to do.

  • Mariannea530

    I’m not surprised to hear of American’s poor and indifferent service. I flew back from San Diego in May on American, and I’m hoping to be able to avoid them in the future. The attendant was irritable and rude. She talked to the passengers like we were a bunch of unruly fourth graders.

    I had a letter ready to send to American but didn’t bother. Rethinking past experiences with the airline, I concluded that management condones it.

  • Yep

    The number of friendly flight attendants seems to be dwindling. I recently crossed paths with a snotty Delta attendant. For dinner she simply said “chicken or pasta?” I asked for a little detail about the options, and she rolled her eyes and said tersely, “chicken or pasta.” Gee thanks for being so unhelpful. I noticed a poor attitude with other customers too. In hindsight I wish I’d gotten her name and reported her. Next time I will. US airlines should take a flight on LAN Peru to get an idea of good customer service. There are some good attendants, but more and more the US and European ones seem to have an attitude of impatience, intolerance and unwillingness to help. Frankly, I have little sympathy. They complain about the increasingly poor manners of the traveling public, and I say some of them make it quite tough to be friendly to them.

  • Yep

    The number of friendly flight attendants seems to be dwindling. I recently crossed paths with a snotty Delta attendant. For dinner she simply said “chicken or pasta?” I asked for a little detail about the options, and she rolled her eyes and said tersely, “chicken or pasta.” Gee thanks for being so unhelpful. I noticed a poor attitude with other customers too. In hindsight I wish I’d gotten her name and reported her. Next time I will. US airlines should take a flight on LAN Peru to get an idea of good customer service. There are some good attendants, but more and more the US and European ones seem to have an attitude of impatience, intolerance and unwillingness to help. Frankly, I have little sympathy. They complain about the increasingly poor manners of the traveling public, and I say some of them make it quite tough to be friendly to them.

  • latenitegurl

    I work for a legacy carrier and SWA f/a’s make $25 an hour more than I do. Most of the other legacy’s pay at least $10 an hour more than my airline. I made the same last year as I did in 1997, after pay cuts and various other cuts in sick pay and vacation decimated my earnings. My CEO says he can’t afford to pay us what others pay because then we wouldn’t be making any money as a corporation. I love my job but I sometimes wonder after 25 years if I can afford to continue to do it with no pension and the stock market crashing with my 401k- I’m pretty sure Starbucks offers better benefits than what I get.

  • latenitegurl

    I know many FA’s that get food stamps. I know of one union office that has a food bank for their FA’s. We don’t have part time workers, just part time pay.

  • latenitegurl

    The BBC had a show that followed a class of would-be aircrew in India. If they got the jobs at the completion of the training not only would the employee move up to middle class but their wages would enable their entire extended family to do so as well. In America, for almost any carrier that is a joke! I have FA friends that get food stamps! How middle class is that?

  • latenitegurl

    seriously, it’s airplane food….do you like pasta or do you like chicken? the FA didn’t prepare it and probably didn’t get a list of ingredients, either. Maybe she could have been nicer but it really is just airplane food. if that’s the worst thing that’s ever happened to you……

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3GFLE6Z4HRANDMBKAE3HZHKWKA patb

    Try Icelandicair to EU. Awesome crews .Absolutely professional and friendly .FA’s and pilots were dressed in such great attire…reminded me of flying years ago …in an era of true professionalism .

  • Seanne Warfield

    it’s true that many FA’s won’t do certain things because people think that we are still sky waitresses. unfortunately in this day and age, we don’t get paid enough or treated well enough by a great deal of passengers which, on an off day, may make us a little jaded. i was walking by with a trash bag after my bev service one day and asked a woman very politely for her empty cup with her napkin in it. no response. i thought maybe she didn’t hear me so i asked again in the same tone. finally her travel companion turned to me and said “she doesn’t help the help.” i wanted so badly to let her know exactly where i’d “help” her to should an emergency occur. that’s not an uncommon occurrence, by the way. i get treated like garbage or simply ignored on a daily basis. however, not helping someone with a bag or not assisting someone who is disabled whether it be permanent or temporary is incredibly rude and i wouldn’t be caught dead acting like that. but i do encourage people to not act like raging assholes the second they step foot into an airport because believe it or not, we are people, too. not your mile high servants. we are there MAINLY for your safety but when treated with kindness and respect i will go to the ends of the earth to make sure that you’re comfortable. so in conclusion, we do not hate our passengers, we just assume you hate us when we greet you with a “hello how are ya today?” and you look at us with disgust or pretend you didn’t hear us. talk about rude.

  • Dianne

    The first day that i came back to flying as a flight attendant after the September 11th attacks, instead of being greeted by the captain with our usual briefing, he took us throughout the plane and showed us everything on that plane we had to kill someone if need be..  So, after over 30 years of makng people comfortable on an airplane, and really helpng them, the fear of my throat being slit with a boxcutter and learning ow to kill a passenger was now the norm. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1334472700 Cindy Kaebisch

    Same thing happened with me – I don’t think she meant for me to hear but I heard the FA go “No one ever returns these.”  Glad I could make her day with something so simple.  As a teacher, I know how much those little things matter.

  • http://www.facebook.com/melissa.thompson.1253236 Melissa Thompson

    Firstly your article isn’t really solely about flight attendant but also ground staff airline workers. Secondly your article is completely biased, you have not discussed flight attendants experiences of rude passengers or passengers who refuse to adhere to safety rules.
    I can give you an example of my own as just the other days on taxiing on the runway a family got up and took their bags down from the overhead lockers when the seat belt signs had not gone off, my colleague and myself had to announce multiple times for them to sit down and put their bags away but they would not listen, I am polite and friendly to passengers but to those that will not listen to safety rules we have to then be authoritative and can no longer be sweet, we have to take on their role of medical personnel and police from time to time and are not just flying waitresses as some people like to view us.

  • Lesbrooke

    Mr. Elliott,
    Can I ask you something? As I sit here in pain from helping
    People yesterday knowing my airline won’t care and will put me on probation for helping with bags, getting hurt and needing time off, do you understand the role of FA’s have changed a bit? Now I am not a surly one. I am pleasant I ask never tell and will even explain why I am asking and i still get treated like garbage. It does not change my service attitude I am still pleasant I realize I am in the service business. I am called names for expecting purses to be stowed and regulations to be followed, I am ignored, noone sees me, listens, says please or thank you and I may as well be invisable during boarding. 90% of people ignore my hellos and here in america we are not paid for boarding so I am doing all that for free. People poke, jab, grab me as i walk through the cabin and i have bruises after every trip from it. I try so hard to be nice but noone listens or cares. My question is this if people do not listen until I get snippy can you tell me how to make sure regulations are followed while being nice because then I am ignored and abused yes physically and mentally abused. Keep in mind I am personally fined an held accountable for something as simple as a seatback not up and locked. Please give me
    Some advice I am a nurse too so I am not stupid as most stews arent and have degrees (shocking) i know, but it has been difficult to get another job been searching for a year turns out your tainted after the airlines so please tell me how to do my job better

  • Lesbrooke

    Amen to that. I am so nice and enjoy my job and 90% of people treat me like garbage. I was berated yesterday for nicely asking not telling a lady if she would please slide her purse under the seat. She wanted to white knuckle it and called me names the entire flight everytime i walked by. 72% of that flight treated me like trash, yet I smiled and said please and thank you. I wish mr elloitt would tell us some advice on how to better be pleasing to passengers because being nice isnt working for me
    I am going into a depression deeper after every flight!