Ridiculous or not? A game of musical chairs no one likes to play

John Koehn planned his cross-country trip from Washington to Medford, Ore., with his wife and three-month-old daughter carefully. He booked their flight a year in advance to make sure they could sit together.

And then, just a few months before the trip, everything fell apart.

When Koehn logged on to the United Airlines website to check his reservation, he discovered his flights had been changed, along with his seat assignments.

“So now the airlines can change flights without even notifying customers,” he says. “Could it possibly get worse?”

Well, yes. Airlines don’t just switch out flights to suit their purposes — a so-called “equipment change” — without compensating their passengers. Sometimes, they try to monetize the switches.

Consider what happened to Andy Eckel when he booked a Delta Air Lines flight for his elderly parents.

“We specifically purchased tickets — and paid more than we would have otherwise — that departed at around 9 a.m. due to concerns about my parents arriving home at night and possible delays that are common,” he told me.

But two months before his parents’ trip, Delta changed their flight to a new one that left six hours later.

“We resigned ourselves to the situation, assuming that the earlier flight was no longer available,” he says.

But on the day of the flight, he was surprised to learn the original flight was available, but it would cost $1,400 extra to have his parents moved back.

“I called the airline’s customer service line and asked if they could get me on the original flight for the original price, and was told, “no,” he says.

After he complained, Delta sent his parents a form letter and a $125 voucher on a future flight. “This is a bit insulting, since the airline themselves put the value of the change at $1,400,” he told me.

Delta’s explanation, which I’ve seen time and again from other airlines, is that it needs to be flexible.

“In the process of providing air service over many different routes each day, we sometimes encounter mechanical problems, adverse weather, and other unavoidable interruptions,” it said, in explaining Eckel’s switch. “These are situations faced by all airlines and no carrier can guarantee that all flights will depart and arrive as planned.”

Michael Miller, a vice president at the American Aviation Institute, a Washington think tank, says airlines change engines, avionics and other equipment as needed.

“Sometimes they can plan for it, sometimes they can’t,” he adds. Airlines don’t want to make these switches, and they don’t think about profiting from them.

“It’s a pain for them,” he explained. “Imaging re-seating 250 people and getting a different set of pilots for a different plane just hours before departure. Most airlines have spare aircraft of the same type, especially at their hubs, but that not always the case. You don’t want to have too many $100 million aircraft sitting around.”

But to passengers, it does seem as if the airline industry has a set of double standards. On the one hand, it allows itself to reschedule flights and arbitrarily change your seat assignments. On the other hand, if you decide to change your plans, it charges you a fee.

It’s not as bad as it seems. Under most airline contracts of carriage — the legal agreements between you and the airline — if a flight is canceled and rescheduled for later, you’re entitled to a full refund. Normally, that’s a meaningless gesture, since a replacement flight on a different carrier would cost far more. Still, it’s nice to know the airline is required to refund your ticket.

But when it comes to seat assignments, airlines are under no similar obligation. If you accept the new flight, you’re doing it on its terms. It’s only required to offer you a seat in the same class of service.

Is that enough? Passengers think the game of musical chairs has gone too far when an airline doesn’t bother telling passengers about the change until they get to the airport, and especially when they appear to be trying to profit from an equipment change.

“I can only imagine a future where the airline changes your flight and then charges you for the difference,” says Koehn. “But hey, at least that would require them to notify you of the change.”

  • miznic

    Pure insanity.

    My relatives and I are in the process of putting a trip together for my mom to visit family in Samoa.  She would be flying alone out of Atlanta, and most likely would have to change planes in at least two locations stateside before changing once again in Honolulu and bound for Pago Pago/Tafuna.  The fares alone have had me in hives, almost… but the very idea that the airlines have free run of changing plans without some kind of notice has me very, very worried. 

    Between that, a possible TSA checkpoint assault, and all the other craptacular issues that the airline industry seems to be bringing onto themselves… it seriously has me wanting to tell my relatives to wait until I can afford to accompany her.

    And so I leave this post with this thought:  if I can think this way – what isn’t to say that many more people have the same thought?  Lots of $$$ in the air, there…

  • JimmyJ

    I agree with you – you can’t have both booking 330 (or whatever) days in advance _and_ no schedule changes.
    Then again, if airlines only sold tickets 3 months in advance people would be complaining too…

  • Backpackersantiago

    I’ve noticed that kids who misbehave with their parents are often well behaved when away from them..Go figure, huh?

  • bodega

    Mosty schedule changes are done by computer, no human interaction.  We get misconnects all the time. When that happens, you get to be placed on any flight of your choice as long as the flight isn’t sold out in your type of cabin.  Your example of a family booked in one PNR being reaccommodated together gets thrown out the window daily.

    You can count on schedule changes when we turn our clocks forward or back.  I have had schedule changes three days in a row for one flight.  Everything gets messed up if an aircraft change takes place the day of departure.  If you book a little less than year in advance, all you are doing is locking up your money and usually paying more for that ticket.  Just because you think something should be, doesn’t mean that is the way it goes. 

    Even with a phone number, an email in the PNR, you should check your reservation weekly.  The last week before your trip, check it daily if possible.  Nothing is perfect and when moving millions of people a year, someone is bound to not get notified. 

    Some carriers are better than others in reaccommoding your seats when your had one assigned and then it disappears.  One carrier will open up inventory available to only their best flyers, another tells you, too bad, all they guarantee is a seat, not a specific seat. 

  • Jennifer

    I have had the same experience.  On my last Delta flight, I got an email and couldn’t really even figure out what the change in the flight was.  Turned out, it was less than 5 minutes– at 12:30 am.  I have always been notified of flight changes.  If the change is greater than a certain number of hours, Delta even has an option to change your flights to more acceptable choices right on the website.

    As far as the second issue with Mr. Eckel’s parents, that is completely unacceptable.  If there were seats available, his parents should have gotten those seats with no change fees at all.

    Airlines have an obligation to communicate schedule changes to their customers but I don’t necessarily believe compensation is in order. 

  • flutiefan

    sorry, SWA most certainly DOES overbook flights.  Roomie works there, at the ticket counter and gate.

  • cjr

    And I’ve noticed plenty of kids who behave just fine with their parents, whether on a plane flight or a long car ride.

    A friend of mine is a single parent with two boys. He said one of the greatest things that ever happened to them when traveling by car is that the older one can now sit in the front seat.

    But that’s still a far cry from handing off his older boy to somebody else and telling them to deal with him.

  • Guest

    I’ve learned not to purchase in-flight entertainment packages ahead of time (when booking your tickets).  I’ve had it happen where I booked my ticket, selected my seat, and bought the TV/Movie package.  When I got on the plane, the flight attendant asked me to move my seat (me being a single traveler) to accomodate someone who needed to sit with a child.  Not a problem except that my entertainment package stayed with the seat and not me.  I essentially paid $15 for some stranger to watch movies in my seat.  If I try to argue the point, I’m the jerk for not trading my seat for a kid.  It’s also hard to get that fee refunded since there is no proof I didn’t sit in my assigned seat.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Susan-Porter/1198445206 Susan Porter

    Not true – I have booked more than once for myself and my two kiddos and more than once the airline has tried after the fact, after they have confirmed my purchase of tickets in seats together – to separate me from one or both of my kids – due to an equipment change or a priority elite bump…

  • http://twitter.com/niltiac Caitlin Fitzsimmons

    @Andre That’s not true. If a couple sits together, one of them will take the middle seat. One aisle and one middle or one window and one middle. Taking the aisle and the window is NOT sitting together by definition.

  • http://twitter.com/niltiac Caitlin Fitzsimmons

    I think that would breach the airline’s duty of care to your daughter. I’m glad the FA could sort it out.

  • Ckbtvl

    I see a lot of really bad information on this. 1) you cannot book any airline in the world 1 year in advance; the earliest is 330 days from the return date (maybe). 2) If they had used an ASTA real live travel agent, we would have know about the schedule change the moment that it happened and would have been all over it. 3) I have worked 1000′s of nasty schedule changes adn in 40+ years had to refund less than a dozen. The travel agent desks don’t care as much about the class of service, they care about resolving the issue and pleasing me. 4) If you buy the cheapest seats, I can bump you right out of them as I have gold, chairman, top dog status on 3 airlines with a dozen more code share partners, so I can bump you any time. Airlines like me more, because I spend more. Seats are a service, not a priority.

  • Jake

    Really?  Your response to “I’m enrolled in four ways to the airline to notify me of their changes” is “are you enrolled in this fifth way”?  Really?  Perhaps one of the first couple of venues should be considered accurate enough?

  • Catader

    Made reservations for myself and 6 yo 6 months in advance.  3 changes were made to itinerary before we left.  Getting there was fine, getting back was a nightmare.  Took over 40 hours to get from NY-PHX.  Our tickets did not match up with existing flights- go to booking, go to this gate, gate change, go to another gate, no room, back to booking—– over and over in 3 airports.  Having to go through security so many times to get to booking and back to gates tripped security and we became targeted for enhanced searches.  I was exhausted, my 6yo was just passing out on me.  There was no down time throughout these 40 hours, it was struggling with gate agents, booking,  phone calls to airline service, running from gate to booking to gate the whole time.  Only rest was when we got on an aircraft inching closer to home.  This was not a holiday period and we showed up plenty early, just the airlines regular way of doing business, apparently.  I don’t know how anyone could defend this fiasco.  The travel industry should be forced to make all its rules, limits, fees and fines reciprocal for the customer too.  That would put a grinding halt to many of their abuses.

  • Steve R

     Same here. There are positives and negatives to each arrangement, but I prefer Southwest’s for several reasons.

    1. You don’t have to buy your ticket a year in advance to have your pick of the seats; you just have to check in exactly 24 hours before your flight. Even with business select and the option to pay for early check in, I’ve always been in the A boarding group when I’ve checked in as soon as it opens. Either way, it’s first-come, first-served – Southwest goes by when you check in and other carriers go by when you book. I don’t think either definition is inherently better, but personally I prefer Southwest’s.

    2. You’re not tied down to a particular seat. Sure, I may know that I like window seats near the front of the plane…but if I’m on Southwest and I see that my window seat near the front is located in front of a crying baby, or next to a guy who’s 400 pounds and hasn’t showered recently, I can just walk on by and find a different one. On other carriers, I’m stuck there unless the flight is empty enough that I can switch.

    3. The boarding process is actually easier. People talk about “cattle call” boarding for Southwest, and I always wonder if they’ve boarded a legacy carrier lately. Everyone mills around the gate before boarding even starts, regardless of boarding group (and half the time I think the gate agents don’t enforce the groups), and jockeys for position. With Southwest, they make you line up in the correct order and IMHO it’s a more efficient process.

    I will say that the big drawback is if you have a connecting flight; I only fly Southwest on non-stops for that reason.

  • http://theinfamousj.livejournal.com/ TheInfamousJ

    As soon as I was able,  I expressed the desire to be seated away from my family. We were usually a unit of four: my parents and my kid brother, aside from myself. Airline seats as they were usually had one parent (usually Mom because she called dibbs) sitting in a row of 3 seats with myself and the kid brother. Dad would then sit elsewhere in the plane.

    From about age 5 onward, I begged to switch seats with Dad (or whoever the singleton parent was) so that I could sit apart from the family. It made me feel more grown up, and as a result I acted that way: no kicking seats/screaming/etc. I’d sit quietly with a book and my stranger seatmates would always compliment my behavior to my parents when the disembarkation process showed that I belonged to someone on the plane.

    I cannot LIKE your comment highly enough about sitting apart from your offspring. The proximity, but not immediacy, of my parents allowed me the opportunity to practice polite airplane behavior while in a safe-to-do-so situation. I hope to be able to repeat this gift for my children when they are of age.

  • http://theinfamousj.livejournal.com/ TheInfamousJ

    12 years old is not such a small child.

    Oops … that was supposed to be a reply to @badbadwebbis

  • http://theinfamousj.livejournal.com/ TheInfamousJ

    Thank you for this. !!!!

    Iceland Express recently renegotiated their flight slots with their hub airport and as a result delayed each side of my round trip by 2 hours. This was enough to leave me stranded in NYC as a result on the homeward leg. To that airline’s credit, they did try to book me on an earlier (though in this case it meant three days earlier) flight (which still would have stranded me in NYC, but for different reasons) as they only have one flight to the US per day, and only one leaving the US per day.

    I do wish I’d had the option of a full refund from that situation. Yes, a different ticket on a different carrier would have cost more, but it would have cost less than a hotel room in NYC.

  • http://theinfamousj.livejournal.com/ TheInfamousJ

    Kudos to the JFK Jet Blue gate agents who actually did enforce boarding rows. I was quite surprised when I saw them politely yet firmly do this for people trying to sneak aboard earlier. :) :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Allan-Jayne/100000343947533 Allan Jayne

    The airline may not change you out of your originally booked flight while that flight still exists, but it gets sticky if the original flight is cancelled and then at a later date, is reinstated.

    One gamble you can do with Delta is, if you see your flight cancelled and your booking moved to another flight, is to not call them right away. Later, if (that’s a big if) you see a better flight appear (which may include the same flight re-appearing), then make your first call regarding their rebooking and ask to be moved to that flight.