Passengers say they miss luggage-inclusive fares the most

It’s been more than two years since most major airlines “unbundled” their fares and began charging passengers for the first checked bag. And although air travelers are now paying more for their luggage than ever — $2.7 billion last year, compared with just $1.1 billion in 2008 — they are deeply unhappy about it, according to a new poll.

A survey of more than 1,000 travelers by the Consumer Travel Alliance suggests air travelers are more upset about the checked luggage charges than any other airline fee. Asked what they missed the most about air travel, 56 percent said it was the ability to check their first bag without paying extra. Roughly 20 percent said they missed meals, and slightly fewer — 19 percent — missed the ability to make a confirmed seat reservation. About five percent of respondents missed the free pillows and blankets.

“It’s almost impossible for the casual traveler to go without luggage, or even the road warriors who have to stay over several nights,” says Robin Edelston, a frequent traveler from Cos Cob, Conn. “And charging for checked luggage encourages people to cram stuff into the overhead bins when the airlines should be encouraging people to stow it in cargo.”

Airlines have used these and other surcharges, such as ticket change fees, to return to profitability. Last week, for example, US Airways president Scott Kirby said his airline expects to bring in $500 million in so-called “ancillary” fees this year, recording a net profit of between $450 million to $475 million.

“A la carte revenues represent 100 percent of that profitability,” he said.


Passengers know the fees are an important source of revenue. But it doesn’t seem to matter.

“It’s good for the airlines because they are picking up a lot of money in fees,” says Tab Stone, a pediatrician from Los Angeles. “It’s like the words in the old Tom Lehrer song, ‘Now there is a fee, for what she used to give away for free.’ But they’re terrible for the passengers who are screwed over by having to pay for everything separately and having differing rules and fees for every airline and waivers of some fees for paying for the right credit card or being a higher-level frequent flier, or flying in a slightly higher class of service or who knows what else.”

One reason luggage fees are so problematic to airline passengers is that there’s a perception the fees are being charged in a dishonest way. When the fees were added, airlines suggested the change would be a temporary measure to offset higher fuel prices. But the fees stayed, even when fuel costs dropped.

Travelers are used to their bags flying with them at no additional cost, and that becomes a challenge when they’re fare shopping.

“The problem is, there’s no comparison point,” says Mitchell Weinstock, an air traveler from San Jose, Calif. “As long as the airlines never present what the full ticket cost is at the time of sale, compared to the unbundled price, it is nothing more than a unsubstantiated claim that these parts would add up to the whole bundled price, or the bundled price may have been a better deal. They can change the price on any of the elements and you have no idea if they are telling you anything useful.”

A proposed federal regulation would change that. The government is considering a requirement that airlines quote a “full” fare, including all mandatory charges, as well as that full fare plus the cost of baggage charges that traditionally have been included in the price of the ticket. If the rule is put into effect early next year, it might effectively end flier’s frustration with baggage fees.

One thing the federal government can’t regulate, because it is impossible to quantify, is airline service. Beyond baggage problems, that was what air travelers say they missed more than anything.

“I miss the courtesy and helpfulness of the airline staff,” says Lee Bice, an IT director from Tampa. “Where once travel was a pleasure, it feels like a minefield. Too many attendants give off an air of irritation and I feel we may be imposing on them.”

Christine Austin, a bookkeeper from Louisville, Ky., says so much has been removed from the air travel experience that she dreads getting on a plane.

“All the joy and thrill of flying has been sucked out of the experience,” she says. “Every part of flying has become a hassle from making the reservation, to packing, to getting through security, to cattle herding onto the plane, having to stay in your seat virtually the entire time, and hope your bags have made it to your destination.”

Travelers say it can’t continue like this.

“The devious ways of hiding the true cost of flying is not acceptable in any other industry,” says Bob Rosenberg, a salesman from New Fairfield, Conn., adding that a government crackdown is inevitable, at some point.

“I think that the airlines are the worst-managed industry that we have in America,” he adds.

(Photo: d baro n/Flickr Creative Commons)

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    ““It’s almost impossible for the casual traveler to go without luggage, or even the road warriors who have to stay over several nights,” says Robin Edelston, a frequent traveler from Cos Cob, Conn.”
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    If you are truly a road warrior, you will have elite FF status thus not paying to check for 1st, 2nd and/or 3rd bag per passenger. As an elite FF with US Airways, we can check nine bags for free when my wife and son travels with me. By the way, the most that we have checked has been four bags for a three week international week (the outbound was three but we purchased a piece of luggage for the items that we purchased on our vacation).

    Even if you are not an elite FF, there are some airlines that if you have their branded credit cards, you can check one bag for free.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    I don’t like these fees (i.e. luggage, change fees, etc.); however, I do understand why the legacy airlines charge these fees. Without these fees, they will be losing money, going out of business, etc.

    As I have posted several times before on this blog, the reality is that fares today are lower than 5, 10, 15 and 20 years ago. My first flight back in 1984, the fare was $ 325. When I did a fare check for the same route, the fares were: Delta: $ 185; US: $ 186; Air Tran: $ 192; CO: $ 223; UA: $ 223; AA: $ 332; Midwest: $ 333; Frontier: $ 389 and Southwest: $ 445.80.

    Since 1984, inflation was been 85% based upon the consumer price index (Source: http://www.inflationdata.com). The $ 325 fare should be $ 601.25 (325 x 1.85) today. How can these airlines make any money when the fares are not covering their costs? No wonder why all of the legacy airlines have been in Chapter 11 at least one time if not more.

    The public want cheap airfares. To me, it seems like somehow they have equated the dropping prices of computers with increased computing power with airfares. They want the airlines to provide first-class service at Greyhound bus prices. You can’t eat your cake, and have it too. What I want is for the airlines to make a profit so that they can provide reliable transportation in the future.

    I am sure that someone will comment that Southwest doesn’t charge fees, they are making money and etc. First, they do charge a fee for an overweight bag, for the third checked bag, etc. However, they do not have all of the fees of the legacy airlines. Second, even if you pay to check a bag with a legacy airline, the total cost is less than Southwest in several cases (it will depends upon the market). Southwest has done an outstanding job in marketing and the public believes that they have the lowest fares. This is why Southwest does NOT allow its fares to be included in any fare search engine.

    Does Southwest, JetBlue, etc. fly to Tri-Cities, WA? San Luis Obispo, CA? Bakersfield, CA? Fresno, CA? or several of the small airports throughout North America? The answer is no. They have cherry-picked their routes. I don’t blame them…if I was starting up an airline, I will do the exact same thing: fly the popular routes.

    The fact is that the popular routes for a legacy airline subsides the routes to these medium and small airports. When the fares for the popular flights are slashed to compete with the discounters, the legacy airlines loses money. I have been on flights to ‘small’ airports on planes with 37 to 50 seats (Dash 4, Dash 8, CRJ, etc.) where there were only ten passengers. Do you think that the airlines made a profit on these flights?

    It is likely that someone will comment that the legacy airlines should emulated Southwest. The public and the airline unions will be up in arms if the legacy airlines emulated Southwest. The first step for the legacies will be stop flying those ‘unprofitable’ flights especially to the medium and small airports. The legacy airlines will slash 1,000s of employees making the unions unhappy. They will unload hundreds of planes making them to take one-time write-offs on their books causing the stockholders to be unhappy. The people in these small markets will be unhappy that they will have to drive 1 to 4 hours for airplane service. Since mail is carried on some airlines on some flights, the Post Office will be upset.

    Another option is for the legacy to raise the fares that actually cover their costs on these ‘unprofitable’ flights especially to these small and medium airports. The people in these markets will be up in arms that fares that used to cost $ 300 are now $ 1,000. The people will write to Congress stating that these airlines fares are unjust; the right to fly is a constitutional right, etc.

    It is a no-win situation for the legacy airlines. If they drop service to the small and medium markets to emulate the discounters like Southwest, they will be the bad guy. If they raise the fares on the unprofitable routes, they will be the bad guy.

    If the public wants low fares and no fees then they will realize that airline service will be reduced\eliminated or they have to pay more if they are living in small and medium cities.

  • Leland Ensor

    Those co-branded credit cards with the 1 free bag are not offered to Canadians, thus, all of these carriers are, effectively, telling Canadians that their business is not appreciated. I, in return, will, as much as possible, will patronize Air Canada and WestJet, and let the discriminatory US-flag carriers have exclusivity to carry their Yankee and Cracker brethren.

  • Jenniferwriter

    This is precisely why Southwest is the preferred airline when possible…

  • http://nmdfreelance.com Nancy

    But people shouldn’t have to be *you*, Road Warrior, to get away from fees. There are far more casual travelers than frequent travelers and it’s truly an unfair fee.

    I travel quite a bit and I have finally decided that once the merger between Southwest and Air Tran is completed, thereby giving me more options out of the Tucson Airport, I’m switching from Delta to Southwest. It’s ridiculous that I have to add $50 to each trip I take for checked baggage fees.

    Also, with the country in a tremendous credit crunch, for the airlines to newly offer these perks with their credit cards is asking us to add a card to our already bulging wallets. I shouldn’t have to join a “club” to get good service and to save a little money. It’s irresponsible on their part – and thoughtless as well. I should be able to get good service because I’m a customer, not because I’ve paid for the privilege.

    It’s long past time for the airlines to see us as the customers who pay their bills, not walking ATMs there to help them reach a level of profitability.

    Southwest has NEVER had the financial problems the other airlines have had yet the “other airlines” refuse to follow their model where the customer is always first and foremost in their minds.

    I’m voting with my feet and my wallet.

  • http://nmdfreelance.com Nancy

    @Leland, I believe you could have gotten your point across w/o using derogatory names and w/o spewing venom.

    We get it – Canada doesn’t like us. We’re not real crazy about Canada either. But I don’t see people on here calling names at every given opportunity.

    You lose the argument the moment you start with the name calling. It’s diminishes anything you have to say after that.

  • Ron

    I don’t much care about the ancillary fees, no food, no pillows, and so on. I do care that what for most of my life was an exciting experience – going to the airport, being at the airport, getting on the plane, flying! – has now been made so unbearable that I fly only when I have to, and that is rarely. It’s amazing how (a) our capitulation to terrorism and (b) the world’s worst managed business have led us to this situation.

  • Bunnee

    Actually, Nancy, Leland has a point and I didn’t find his remarks at all venomous – of course, I like Canadians. I’m not far from the border and I’ve often thought of flying from Canada to save myself some of the hassles.

  • MeanMeosh

    Actually, I’ve been avoiding checking bags since long before the bag fees started. There’s two reasons for this. First, the airlines don’t exactly have a great track record of actually delivering your bag to you on time. I really don’t need the risk of being without clothes for 24 hours while they try to track it down. Second, I happen to be served by an airport where it takes FOREVER for bags to be delivered to the carousel. When I’ve been in business meetings all day for 3 days, and finally get home at 8:30 P.M., the last thing I want to do is stand around at the carousel for 25 minutes waiting for a bag. I want to get the heck out of dodge as fast as possible, so only taking a carry-on makes it much more convenient.

    Also, Arizona raises a great point. Whether you want to admit it or not, the same people who complain about fees today will be complaining equally loudly when the airlines raise their fares by $120 to give you that precious “all-in” price. We will have Congressional hearings on how it’s “unconscionable” to charge $450 for a flight from DFW to LAX that used to cost $325, and that it’s time to tax the “windfall profits” of airlines, just like they do for oil companies every time the price of gas goes up too much for Congress’ liking. Like Arizona said, it’s heads I win, tails you lose for the airlines no matter what they do.

  • Ed Greenberg

    What I don’t like is the uncertainty that comes with travel these days. Will there be unexpected fees at airport, hotel and car rental? Will somebody try to screw me? Will I encounter a customer service horror story? (And of course, will TSA somehow ruin my trip?)

    Using the entire travel industry has turned into an adversarial situation. I vote to drive whenever possible.

  • CTP

    I do NOT fly southwest by choice, I prefer the benefits I get from my “legacy” airline. AZ Road Warrier made an excellent case for not having all airlines using the same business model. I am not sure what it will mean if all fees are “bundled” up front because I do not have to pay all those fees on my airline of choice. How could I compare the costs of flying my choice vs another airline if the stated fare included all fees? I would much rather see an link or something by a fare that when clicked showed me options for seat selection, premium seating, meals, baggage fees, and what ever else is offered. Time of day, the amount of layover time in connections also make an impact on me when choosing an airline, in fact, those are a huge factor that I consider when choosing a route.

    CTP

  • Aaron

    @AZ Road Warrior:

    >I have been on flights to ‘small’ airports on planes with 37 to 50 seats (Dash 4, Dash 8, CRJ, etc.) where there were only ten passengers. Do you think that the airlines made a profit on these flights?

    With ten passengers? Maybe, maybe not – keep in mind that RJ and turboprop pilots earn a fraction of what mainline jet pilots make. If the airline name has “Express” in it, the people driving are probably making $30,000 a year or less. The person in the right seat may well be making less than $20k/year.

    RJs have fewer flight attendants, cheaper maintenance, use less fuel, and require less ground support. Next time you’re stuck on a CRJ for a 3-hour flight (with one bathroom!) you’ll know why!

    PS, Southwest may be more expensive on some long-haul flights, but on short-haul flights here in the West, I find they are generally cheaper than the “legacy” airline on which I have status. I think Southwest only sells their own tickets to avoid paying commission. I’m sure they know that most of us are smart enough to open Expedia in one tab and Southwest.com in another.

    PPS, what’s a Dash 4?

  • Philip

    As a freelance photographer in the sixties, (traveling around the world 6 years, to eighty countries) I got my first rude awakening on my first leg with a $200 extra baggage charge. I immediately consolidated and sent half my bags to be held at American Express in Paris (they miraculously held them for 3yrs) and carried on board two large cases and a backpack (crews were much more congenial and tolerant in those days).
    The REALITY of airline travel is just to get from point A to xyz.
    The “joy of travel” mentioned above can only mean first class, with larger seats, gourmet food and free drinks, and no charge for baggage. Otherwise, it is just survival and tolerance with fortitude for the rest of us fighting through the many obstacles and inconveniences.
    Being more than travel wise now, I have only one carry-on
    and one briefcase that holds my camera, iPod with audio book, and a Kindle for reading for the average two hour layovers when changing planes (the average entire trip time has been 8+ hours). And let me give credit here to the person who invented wheels on baggage!!
    Reality check here means live with these unsettled times and stop whining. If you arrive alive and well at your destination,
    that’s joy enough!!!

  • MeanMeosh

    @ Aaron – the Dash 4 is an old variant of the turboprop now known as the “Dash 8″ or “Q400″. It was built by de Havilland Canada, which has long since been swallowed up by Bombardier. I’d be surprised if any were still in service today.

    @ CTP – Air Canada has already experimented with a variation of what you’re talking about. There are a few extras you can add during the booking process that’s then rolled into the price before you buy. Frontier also has different fare buckets with various goodies added in the more expensive buckets. I’m with you; I’d much prefer something where I can pick and choose what I want, instead of the government forcing me to look at an “all-in” price that doesn’t give me what I need.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ Aaron – “what’s a Dash 4?”
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    Alaska Airlines and Horizon Air have 40 Bombardier Q400 (DH) in their fleet. They call them Dash 4. These planes have 76 seats. I have several flights on them.

    They used to have Bombardier Q200 (aka Dash 2) but they have retired them. These plane had 37 seats like the Dash 8. I have been on several of them and one flight, the plane dropped 500′ (the guess from the FA) after we were up 3,000′ to 5,000′…that was the experience.

    US Airways flies the de Havilland Dash 8-100. It has 37 seats like the Dash 2\Q200.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ Nancy – “I travel quite a bit and I have finally decided that once the merger between Southwest and Air Tran is completed, thereby giving me more options out of the Tucson Airport, I’m switching from Delta to Southwest. It’s ridiculous that I have to add $50 to each trip I take for checked baggage fees.”
    - – - – - –
    Unless your destinations are only Salt Lake City, Atlanta and Minneapolis (the three direct flights from Tucson on Delta), you are earning 4 travel segments per each flight. A person needs 30 segments (8 trips a year) or 25,000 miles to become a Silver Medallion FF member with Delta; therefore, you can check bags for free.

    If you have a Delta branded credit card, a person can earn 5,000 to 30,000 Medallion Qualification Miles; therefore, a person can qualify for Silver without taking 30 segments or flying 25,000 miles. By the way, if you have a Delta branded credit card, you can check one bag for free.

    I don’t know your definition of ‘I travel quite a bit’ but in travel departments and human resources departments in corporate America, if you take one business trip a month (that is four segments if you don’t live in a hub city x 12 months = 48 segments which will give you elite status with the legacy airlines) that is light travel (25%). Road Warrior status is at 75% or higher (a person spends at least three weeks on the road).

    Even if you don’t travel once month but six to eight times a year (some trips could have six segments), you should have Silver elite status with Delta if you travel quite bit as you claim.

    @ Nancy – “Also, with the country in a tremendous credit crunch, for the airlines to newly offer these perks with their credit cards is asking us to add a card to our already bulging wallets. I shouldn’t have to join a “club” to get good service and to save a little money.”
    - – - – - – -
    A person can get a Gold Delta SkyMiles Credit Card from American Express without a membership cost. If you take six trips a year that is a saving of $ 300 ($ 50 x 6) plus, a person will earn 20,000 bonus miles with their first purchase as well as miles for purchases on the card. In the second year, you will pay $ 95…again, if you take six trips that is a saving of $ 205 ($ 50 x 6 – $ 95). If you take more than six trips a year, the savings will be greater.

    @ Nancy – “Southwest has NEVER had the financial problems the other airlines have had yet the “other airlines” refuse to follow their model where the customer is always first and foremost in their minds.”
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    Currently, Southwest flies to 68 cities and no international flights on their metal. If the other airlines adopted Southwest’s model, they will just fly to 68 cities and stopped their international flights (which are probably the only flights that are profitable for them). Delta flies to 245 cities in the US. If you were living in one the 177 cities that service has to be slashed, how would you feel without airline service? By the way, Delta flies to 900 cities around the globe (350 being on their own metal…the other cities are code-share flights on their airline partners and Sky Team airline members). In the remaining 68 cities, how would you feel when the fares went up? Southwest doesn’t have the lowest fares…I have checked fares on Southwest against the legacy airlines in different markets and they are not the lowest.

    Please don’t respond back with “The model that I am talking about is for the legacy airlines to charge no fees like Southwest.” By the way, Southwest does charge fees but not to the extent of the legacy airlines…Chris Elliott had an article about airline fees and Southwest’s fee revenues, which was the smallest, was listed in the article.

    The reason why Southwest is profitable is simple: they only fly the popular routes. They don’t fly into the smaller airports like Bakersfield, CA, Fresno, CA, etc. They fly the popular routes where they make their money on volume. They save on maintenance costs since they don’t need larger airlines for the international flights (i.e. like a 747, A340 for flights to Europe, Asia, etc.) or smaller airlines (i.e. Dash 4, Dash 8, CRJ, etc.) since they don’t fly into smaller markets like Bakersfield, CA; Fresno, CA; Tri-Cities, WA; etc.

    Again, if the public wants low fares and no fees then they will realize that airline service will be reduced\eliminated or they have to pay more if they are living in small and medium cities. If the public wants airline transportation to the small and medium cities at affordable fares, another option is to regulate the industry so there is a level playing field between the discounters and legacy airlines…which means higher fares but at least every airline will have the same fares.

  • Ron

    I am so sorry I even commented on this. The so-called road warriors – macho-macho men or Willy Lomans? – and other frequent fliers who can list every detail in the book and yet fully miss the forest… Are there many people more boring? Hit me with your best guys. I have no plans to check Elliott again. He asked a basic Q and and the goon squad responded. Long live the Internet….

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ Aaron December – “With ten passengers? Maybe, maybe not – keep in mind that RJ and turboprop pilots earn a fraction of what mainline jet pilots make. If the airline name has “Express” in it, the people driving are probably making $30,000 a year or less. The person in the right seat may well be making less than $20k/year.”
    - – - – - – - – — – —
    One of these flights was on Horizon Air from Seattle to Kelowna, BC on a Q400. There were two pilots as well as two FAs (the plane seats 76).

    Even if the pilots were making $ 50,000, you will need to add at least another 30% or $ 15,000 to the salary for the employer costs (i.e. FICA, Medicare; SUTA; FUTA; WC; etc). The costs for the FAs. The costs for the hotels for the crew. The costs for the fuel. The costs for the baggage handlers. The costs for maintenance. The costs for the cleaners. The cost of the lease payment. The costs for the gate personnel. The costs for insurance. The costs for the interest for the airline to borrow money to operate. The costs for the website or phone center for the reservations. The costs of the snacks.

    The costs for several of these items are small when applied to a single flight but they do add up. I am sure that the airlines know how much all of their costs for all of their flights.

    Within a few months, I saw a TV program on CNBC where a reporter worked as a FA on AA. The costs for a flight on a 737 was something like $ 60,000 if I recall correctly.

    On that flight to Kelowna, BC since there were only ten of us, we spoke among us…no one paid more than $ 350 for their ticket…a total revenue of $ 3,500.

  • Brooklyn

    Wouldn’t it be interesting if someone would start an airline as a non-profit, offering a flat rate at whatever price it would take to break even and opening their books to audit? Maybe we could convince one of our mega-millionnaires to try it as a public service! And if the new airline could somehow set up its own airport with no TSA – maybe offshore with a shuttle from the coast – then I’d pay double to fly it! (Yes, I know, it couldn’t happen, but I can dream, can’t I?)

  • David Z

    and yet fully miss the forest

    Maybe they do see the forest for the trees, yet some people just won’t accept anyway?

  • Andre L.

    @Brooklyn: airline industry, as a whole, has been far from being any profitable business, at least in last 20 years.

    There is no reason to justify a “flat rate enough to break even”. First, that would do away with so-much loved discounts and fire sales. Second, it would be mostly uncompetitive in key routes, hence not attracting enough traffic. It would be bankrupt, soon.

    The question of charges for ancillary services is a valid one, like should check-in bags be included on ticket price as to avoid the unsafe situation on cockpits. However, pricing flights different according to the minute of booking, competition at destination, ability to extract more money from passengers in a hurry (hence giving discount for cash-strapped college students willing to make 5 connections and fly twice the “direct” distance to get a US$ 200 cheaper fare) are just normal aspects of the market.

    What I feel, and I’m not saying this is your case, is that some people are more lazy to search for the cheapest fares and/or they feel spoiled when someone else is taking the same flight on the seat right next to him/her paying 1/5 of the price, which is just, IMO, jealously.

  • Fred

    When people ‘expect’ to not pay for bags, they are only going to get upset. Stop being so naive and have realistic expectations – the airlines ‘expect’ to make money but us customers are making it difficult by demanding lower fares.
    Also since when has a checked bag been a right or necessity? Almost everyone can do without bringing so much stuff with themselves. It costs the airline to handle your checked bag, so why shouldn’t they pass that cost to us?
    Seat assignments are free for the airline, so those fees are the ones that should be annoying us the most, no?

  • mark

    The luggage fees dont realy bother me as i have learned to get by with carry on. I went to Spain and Morroco for 2 weeks in Sept and we each had one carry on and a backpack that fit under the seat. The only inconviences i have found is i have to get up early on one morning to do laundy but its not an issue as i get coffee and a snack and make it my breakfast time the other is i have to buy a cork screw as i like to buy local wines and have them in my room for a night cap.

  • Steve

    “‘It’s almost impossible for the casual traveler to go without luggage, or even the road warriors who have to stay over several nights,’ says Robin Edelston, a frequent traveler from Cos Cob, Conn.” I think it’s ridiculous to say that not checking a bag = not bringing luggage. Last time I checked, every airline allows you to carry-on one bag, plus one personal item. I just traveled on business last week and fit everything I needed into a carry-on (regulation-sized) plus a laptop bag without any problems. This was for a Sunday-afternoon-thru-Thursday-morning trip, with three days on site.

    @Arizona Road Warrior, I know we’ve debated the merits of Southwest vs. the legacy airlines over and over again, so I won’t rehash my position. It did occur to me though on my most recent trip that one huge advantage to Southwest is that they don’t farm out flights to regional carriers. My most recent trip was on 2 Q200s and 2 ERJ145s; I actually don’t mind the ERJ145 so much because of the ability to get a left-side seat that’s both a window and aisle, but the Q200s were pretty lousy. And I really was not impressed with the attitude of the FAs on my flights, either; it bordered on surly at times and ironically, I think I got much friendlier service from the TSA agents when I went through screening.

    I guess I also question how valuable it really is to provide commercial air service to really small markets if there are large alternative airports within a 2-3 hour drive. My home airport is MSN, and frankly I’d rather drive 2.5 hours to ORD or 1.5 hours to MKE rather than have to connect at a hub for every single flight I take (with the concurrent risk of delays) and almost always fly on regional aircraft.

  • David Z

    A similar discussion with some more tidbits for those interested:

    http://crankyflier.com/2010/12/13/why-you-should-love-airline-fees/

  • Don

    On the regional airports debate: Europe has encouraged people to use ground transportation (train, bus, car) to major airports so that they don’t have to take a lot of costly connecting flights from smaller airports in to hubs. This has many advantages. In the US, transport to the airport can sometimes cost more than the flight.

    On luggage: If we want people to really pay the cost of flying, we should have them pay a basic fixed charge (in advance, for seat rental and service) plus, at check-in, a fully disclosed per-pound charge based on their weight plus the weight of their carry-on and checked luggage. Kind of like paying to ship a package at the post office. It would take a bit of getting used to, but it would be fairer and would reflect actual fuel costs. Hey, back in the old days of flying, everyone and their luggage was weighed. And it would put an end to all the shenanigans people go through to avoid luggage fees by taking huge carry-ons, stuffing possessions into jacket pockets and so forth.

  • ColletteB

    ““It’s almost impossible for the casual traveler to go without luggage, or even the road warriors who have to stay over several nights,” says Robin Edelston, a frequent traveler from Cos Cob, Conn.”

    ????? Does this woman really travel? I don’t think she knows what she is talking about? Frequent travellers do get certain sweet deals on baggage through frequent flyer status or airline credit cards. When I travel with my family for a week, we all take “carry on”. No problem! My husband has been travelling for years on business with just “carry on”.