No hot water in my Paris rental apartment

When the hot water doesn’t work in your hotel room, you call the front desk and with any luck, it gets fixed. But what if you’re in a rental apartment?

That’s the situation faced by Amy Maas when she rented a flat in Paris a few weeks ago through HomeAway.com.

“Upon our arrival we realized there was no hot water and notified the owner,” she says. “Although we were led to believe it would be fixed, we spent the duration of our trip without any hot water or ability to shower or bathe normally.”

Yuck.

Good thing Maas paid extra for HomeAway’s Rent With Confidence guarantee, which, among other things, protects you if “the property is misrepresented.”

And the apartment was represented as having a working bathroom, which it did not.

HomeAway would not reimburse Maas for a claim on the apartment rental she made under the guarantee. Indeed, under section 2 c) of the terms and conditions, a “temporary defect of or within the subject property or attached services (such as failure of the air conditioning or swimming pool)” is excluded.

“We also attempted to place a review on the website but discovered that the owners control what gets posted, making reviews in general worthless,” she says.

(When it comes to ratings, the truth may actually be a little more complicated. I spoke with a VRBO customer yesterday who told me the company’s policies on guest reviews are unevenly applied, but can sometimes favor the owner and sometimes the guest. Another reader pointed to this discussion, which suggests VRBO does allow guests to speak their mind even when they have something negative to say.)

Maas contacted the owner, who offered a $150 credit and a free night off their next stay in the Paris rental. But she’s unlikely to be able to take advantage of the offer, since this was a “once-in-a-lifetime” trip.

“We felt that a 25 to 50 percent refund would have been more appropriate given the inconvenience and for dealing with the plumber for the first two days,” she says. (She was in the apartment for a total of six nights.)

I normally send “no hot water” cases directly to the “dismissed” file, but not this one. Being unable to shower for your entire stay is totally unacceptable. HomeAway shouldn’t allow a substandard apartment in its inventory. And if it does, then it should eliminate the 2 c) exclusion on temporary defects and take some responsibility for its product.

At the same time, refunding half the rental seems a little rich to me. The $150 credit is pretty generous, but the devil is in the details. If Maas can transfer it to a friend or sell it, then it might have some value. Otherwise, the offer may have been made by a cynical owner who knew she’d never come back to Paris.

This is not an easy one.

Update (Nov. 30): HomeAway has responded to this post.

We have no record of her attempting to post a review on our site and her claim regarding owner control is 100 percent not true. All of the HomeAway U.S. sites feature unbiased traveler reviews, which owners cannot delete or modify in any way. As long as the review complies with our guidelines, then it will be posted.

Owners are, however, given the opportunity to respond to a review, but that does not effect what the traveler posts. In a case like this, it would give the owner the opportunity to say “We’ve since fixed the hot water problem” or something to that extent.

(Photo: wla ppe/Flickr)

  • http://twitter.com/ElmoClarity Elmo Clarity

    From reading this blog, even having a reliable agent working for you won’t help when you have a slimy property owner like this.

  • Asiansm Dan

    Hot water don’t work. just inexcusable. In my opinion, the owner rent the place by purpose knowing the hot water don’t work. At least 50% in cash of the rent is adequate compensation.
    By the way, if you want to rent an apartment in  France, please aware of Elevator (Lift) too. It’s frequent that high floor building don’t equipped with elevator, or equipped with a small elevator that fit only 1 passenger. Or sometimes the elevator just don’t work.

  • Carver

    No

    Readers expect to get a fair value for the price paid.  This is not valet service, this is below the service of Motel 6.

  • Shannon Rich

    No hot water period.  Not just for showering, but for anything else!  And if you’ve ever tried to use soap or shampoo with cold water, you would understand.  They don’t work unless the water is hot.

  • Edi

    There is not too much to complain for. Hot water? Failure are omnipresent. Imagine trekking in Himalaya and a need to forget about hot shower for next 15 days. Than what? :-)

    -Edi at http://mytravelsmypassion.blogspot.com

  • Eric

    I’m with everyone else here.  This was totally unacceptable.  HomeAway’s “guarantee” is a joke.  The power was out for five days?  Sorry, that’s a temporary inconvenience.  When I go to the Florida panhandle, I always rent thru a local real estate company who does vacation rentals.  After seeing this story, that’s not about to change.

  • Ann Lamoy

    I’m assuming you are being sarcastic. Otherwise? Comparing apples to oranges. Because anyone seriously contemplating trekking in the Himalayas would certainly know that you wouldn’t be showering in any kind of water-hot or cold. Unless you wanted to become a human Popsicle. (and i can see some demanding person asking their Sherpa where the showers are…)

  • Ann Lamoy

    I’m assuming you are being sarcastic. Otherwise? Comparing apples to oranges. Because anyone seriously contemplating trekking in the Himalayas would certainly know that you wouldn’t be showering in any kind of water-hot or cold. Unless you wanted to become a human Popsicle. (and i can see some demanding person asking their Sherpa where the showers are…)

  • Ann Lamoy

    I think a 25-50% refund sounds about right. You can’t tell me that in Paris that they couldn’t get this fixed within the 6 day time frame that Ms. Maas was staying there. And why was it a problem in the first place? If the plumber couldn’t fix it, then the homeowner shouldn’t be renting out the property. Not having hot water to shower is definitely something I would consider a breach of contract.

    I’ve had to shower in cold water for a week during the 1998 Ice Storm when we had no power for over a week. It was unpleasant and uncomfortable but unfortunately nothing could be done since there was no power to heat the water. This situation was different.

    If it had been a case of no hot water in the sink to wash the dishes but hot water available for the shower, I would feel differently. You could always heat water on the stove to do the dishes. But it is impossible to do that to get adequately clean-especially for a week.

  • Asiansm Dan

    I always to ask to see the room before handle out my credit card, no way I stay in Hotel without hot water or air conditioning don’t work. I don’t figure out how people having money and don’t stand up for themselves or pay in advance for good they cannot evaluate . It’s absurd for me the OP still stay there till the end. I would leave the first day and ask for full refund.

  • Asiansm Dan

    It’s obviously a scam. The own seems had no intention to fix the problem knowing the american tourists have limited way to recuperate their money. I won’t be surprised there other victims at that propriety.

  • http://profiles.google.com/saucywench S E Tammela

    I did vote that she deserved more, but please don’t assume all of Europe has hot water that trickles. I live in Helsinki, Finland. There’s no special hot water system in my home, and I get fast, high-pressure, unlimited hot water piped to my door from the city. There’s more to Europe than Paris and London.

  • Anonymous

    You have to be kidding.  This is a trip to Paris and you’re comparing it to a trek in the Himalayas?  If Ms. Maas wanted a trek to the Himalayas, she would have booked one.  Paris is a cultural trip, not an outdoor excursion.  You could argue that she didn’t need electricity either, it’s not like we can’t use candles. 

    You are most likely just spamming this site to get traffic to your blog.  Good luck with that. 

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    This is very sad that the service in the apartment was not as expected.. I must say that before hiring any apartment one should look forward to the services and checked it carefully..

  • lcpossum

     Every credit/debit account I’ve ever had in the US started the 60-day period from the date of the statement which contained the charge. Regardless of when the service or product was actually delivered the ability to dispute the charge ends 60 days after the statement date.

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