Murphy’s unfortunate stay in an AirBNB apartment

You know Murphy’s Law — “anything that can go wrong, will go wrong”? Well, Eric Schwartzman had one of those experiences when he rented an apartment from AirBNB recently.

Before I get into his story, I should mention that Schwartzman is a fellow journalist who was referred to me by another colleague. I help a lot of journalists off the record, but it rarely gets to this level.

And what level is this? Schwartzman is unhappy with the way AirBNB handled a difficult stay in Paris with his family, and is disappointed by the reaction from the company’s management when he questioned its policies.

Schwartzman and his family had found a “too good to be true” rate of $178 for an apartment that included a kitchen, more space than a hotel room, and a great location. But, he says, he “paid dearly” in other ways.

When he arrived early in the morning, he tried to take a hot shower.

There was no water at all in the apartment. I searched around for a water main but couldn’t find it. I contacted the host, and he responded quickly, saying he’d arrange to have it switched on and did so within the hour.

Next came a problem with the Internet. He just couldn’t connect to the wireless network, which was necessary because he conducted most of his business online.

When [the owner] arrived, he tested the broadband with his PC — he was an antiMac guy — and it worked, so he blamed it on my Mac. He said he didn’t use Macs and said it must an incorrect proxy setting on my computer. He couldn’t resolve the issue. We had to go to Starbucks for the duration of our stay just to get online.

Finally, the lock on the apartment failed. It took six hours for the owner to help him get into the building.

If you get locked out of a hotel room, you go down to the front desk and get a new key. But when a lock to a private residence fails and you’re stuck.

Be prepared to spend the night in a dark hallway with no where to sit, no bathroom and no where to charge your phone while you wait for your host to show up so. And they might even berate you for breaking their lock and charge you for a locksmith to fix it.

All the while, emails requesting help from AirBNB went unanswered.

At one point near the end of the stay, their host asked the family to leave — a demand he quickly withdrew — and eventually, he credited Schwartzman one-night’s stay for all of the inconveniences.

But it’s not enough. He thinks there are bigger problems AirBNB needs to address.

By removing the cost of operating a hotel, AirBNB lowers costs and makes it possible for travelers to rent directly from owners.

But by eliminating those costs, you also forfeit any on-demand customer support you might need. A front-desk clerk, lobby with seating, stable wi-fi and a bathroom are easy to take for granted when you have them. But we found out first hand just how vital they are when you’re locked out.

Another area of concern are AirBNBs cancellation policies. If guests cancels a reservation, they’re out half the booking fee for all of their nights. But if the host asks the guest to leave without cause, the guest is only entitled to a refund for the lost nights, he says.

“Which means if you’re a guest, your vacation is predicated on your host’s goodwill,” he says.

Schwartzman contacted AirBNB, which refunded another $200 of his stay, which was more than enough for him. But it declined his invitation to have a “civil, constructive conversation about my experience” for his social media podcast.

I was disappointed that they weren’t confident enough in their own service to go on the record online about what they do to protect guests. Asking hosts to be transparent about their listing is great, but I’d like to se AirBNB stand by their own business practices as well.

In the end, I think my experience illustrates some serious flaws in AirBNB’s business model. The concept of a community marketplace for rentals seems like a good idea at first, but with no real protection for hosts or guests, and with both sides having such a low tolerance for pain, I’m not sure the business has long term viability.

These are interesting questions. Is AirBNB’s business model flawed? Did the company’s execs owe Schwartzman an answer on the record? And should I get involved, and ask AirBNB to comment on this case and to clarify its policies?

  • Anonymous

    Eric, try slowtravel.com and their forum slowtalk.com

    Lots of folks there use apartments all the time and they are happy.There is an excellent source for France/Paris there. Look for the posts of Americana in Parigi.

  • Anonymous

    Eric, try slowtravel.com and their forum slowtalk.com

    Lots of folks there use apartments all the time and they are happy.There is an excellent source for France/Paris there. Look for the posts of Americana in Parigi.

  • http://pop-pr.blogspot.com Jeremy Pepper

    It works if all sides are open and honest, which we are not seeing here. There are going to be the reviews – which, well, aren’t that trustworthy either – which should help. 

    Uber, Taskrabbit and Zaarly are all interesting models. Taskrabbit and Zaarly are more straight-forward services which will probably run into some tax issues.  Uber, well, Uber has its own whole list of problems ranging from the well organized Taxi organizations to the pricing model (see the brouhaha during NYE and the whine – and refunds to friends of Uber – that came about because of the costs for a few miles). 

    Travelers are a special group of people. The whole purpose of a trip – be it vacation or work – is to be stress free and not have to worry about any issues. When I rented an apartment in Buenos Aires, it was stress free and easy … and run by a rental firm that had people on the ground. I had WiFi issues too, and they fixed it immediately as there were both IT people and rental agents around to fix the problems. 

    There are going to be more issues and more bad experiences. How AirBNB handles them is the key.

  • Anonymous

    An interesting blog, but I have to say that friends of ours have stayed in apartments, booked through the AirBNB website, and found everything to be excellent.

    http://www.windermereboutiquehotel.co.uk/

  • Anonymous

     This insipid little sniveler won’t be happy until he tells his little tale to everyone he can corner.  What a bag of hot air.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HMW3OTJSBDWWRKIEKEKWWM7BEA bc

    Eric, though I’m not what you would call a road warrior I’ve stayed at plenty of hotels and WiFi problems can happen any time. On a recent trip one of the hotels we used constantly had problems with their routers which pretty much made the only usable router the one in the lobby. Sure this was inconvenient but does that mean should demand a refund from the front desk? 

    In a previous trip to South America I rented an apartment in Buenos Aires and had a very similar issue. The lock on the apartment door broke at about 4 in the afternoon when I was returning from a long day of sightseeing. It took several hours of me and through the help of a kind next door neighbor I was able to call the property owner and get a locksmith out there. Sure it was inconvenient but I could hardly blame the owner for the unforeseen problem. 

    There are a lot of advantages and disadvantages of renting an apartment vs a traditional hotel. No on site help is inherent disadvantage in this on most properties. 

    You’re saying you don’t blame anyone for what happened, but isn’t that essentially what you’re doing when you ask for a refund or a credit for the time stayed? You’re saying, hey you’re responsible for all this you should compensate me. I think people are way to eager to demand refunds and expect compensation when unforeseen and unpredictable problems happen. 

  • Anonymous

    Really?  So anytime you have an issue with a company and demand 45 minutes of their time to go “on the record” and they refuse – the company must have something to hide?  Are you joking?  How are you related to the OP?

  • Brittney Stonewall

    I’d like to go on the record and say “that without verifying
    protection for both parties, especially when you’re a guest or host, how can
    everyone be sure that what they’re getting involved in is safe?” I don’t
    think there’s any certainty in this! I’m appalled at their mistakes. I also
    believe that Eric Schwartzman should be entitled to an interview for his social
    media podcast; if Airbnb is denying him this right, could it also mean that
    they have something to hide? I think so. Another thing is, this company may not
    have the longevity with which they’ve envisioned commence forth. Let’s ponder
    this notion for a minute: Having a host leave a customer locked out of their
    hotel, and break the locks only to come inside to a place with no running
    water, no wifi, and no bathroom, does not appear to be a lovely picture. It’s
    also something that wouldn’t attract me as a future customer. In fact, I’d
    rather not even climb that mile hike. As far as Airbnb is concerned, I have no
    doubts in my noggin that the company is disguising the truth of the matter. If
    you follow the laws and wish to accommodate your customers with superb customer
    service, then what is wrong with an interview? If you had asked me, an
    interview speaks for itself!

  • http://bit.ly/bceuf ericschwartzman

    Tony,

    I may not be famous, but I have produced more 250 hours of spoken word, educational programming, won several industry awards and interviewed Walt Mossberg of the Wall Street Jourla, David Pogue of the New York Times, Ken Auletta of The New Yorker and many others. See for yourself:

    http://www.ontherecordpodcast.com/pr/otro/fact-sheet.aspx

    My book “Social Marketing to the Business Customer” was published by John & Wiley and Sons, a major NY-based publisher:

    http://ericschwartzman.com/pr/schwartzman/b2bsocialmedia.aspx

    And last year, I keynoted Social Media Week Los Angeles (video: http://ericschwartzman.com/pr/schwartzman/b2b-social-marketing-speaker.aspx), The Digital Impact (audio: http://www.ontherecordpodcast.com/pr/otro/B2B-social-media-keynote.aspx) and Social Media Week Rome in 2011. 

    Furthermore, I’ve uploaded a picture of my face and revealed my true identity, which is more than I can say for you. Who’s the real sniveler here? 

    And how long have you been working at AirBNB?

    Eric

  • Debbie Lott

     
     
    It would have for me very easy to provide an answer that is at the level of the review from Eric. However, neither my education or my culture does not allow me to do so. I will just be factual: Never/ever rent your apartment to Eric and his family. He treats and he is convinced that you should be is servant [actually funny enough he is even putting down that to his review], addresses in a arrogant manner and the word politeness is missing from his dictionary. to summarize, Eric rent a 1,000,000$ 2-BDR apartment, that has not a single complaint, with more than 50 reservations, excellent reviews, cleaned and maintained from a professional manager…he paid 804eu for 6 nights, he broke the lock that cost 850eu, I spent 2 nights out of 6 at the apartment, but the worst thing out of all is that he treated me like nothing, with extreme arrogance, expected to be 24 hours servant the front-desk of his hotel reservation. 1. water…we checked with the city of Paris and the building and there was no apparent reason for having no water at the apartment. eventually Eric sent an email that the water was back and running at 12:30 (normal check-in is 2PM)…of course Eric forgot to mentioned that he checked early at 9:30…like the internet problem (see bellow), not a single complain about the water before. 2. internet…well it happens to have triple play offer, with a provider that has approximately 6million subscribers in France. We have this service at our apartment for the past 6 yeas without a single problem, I went to the apartment, the wifi was visible, Eric couldn’t connect his mac laptop…TV was running, telephone was running, Wireless was sending signal and I was able to connect with my DELL + Samsung mobile. However, you have to be at the service of Eric, a system administrator, that can take over his computer and solve his problems!!! that was my first night I spent at the apartment [6 to 9 PM]…eventually no one complained for the internet before… 3. lock: other thank lying since I was at 5:00PM at the apartment and I have his mails on it, well the lock broke while Eric was there, I called the 24 services immediately once I got the mail that his son [who BTW while I was there the first night kept running and jumping on the couch, I guessed he thought that I am a handyman given the attitude of his father] and his wife are locked outside [it happens that my son has the same age as his son]. I left my office immediately and was dealing with the locksmith from 5:00 to 9:30pm. the repair cost 850eu and normally he should have paid for it. 4. refund: when people treat you the way that Eric does, you have absolutely no reason to host them in your property. if they had no a son on my son’s age, I would have kicked them out, they do not deserve to be your guests at a property that you own and you worked hard to buy and maintain. anyhow, I ask airbnb to refund him one night because again I consider the situation if my wife and my son was in his place [eventually it wouldn't have been hard for any airbnb guest to behave better and be respectful to people]. from his review it seems that it didn’t happen, however I have absolutely nothing to do with that and is something between him and airbnb. eventually, I will return him the compliment, there is nothing wrong with him, he is a very descent guy…who also tries to save some money by renting a 700ft apartment at the cost of **/***hotel 150ft ROOM, while expecting a 24-hours front desk service where the word respect is not part of his dictionary.

  • Debbie Lott

    FYI… this is the reponse to Mr. Schwartzman’s review on AirBNB website.  It looks like a lovely place. 

  • http://www.talestoldfromtheroad.com Dick Jordan

    The facts of Mr. Schartzmann’s experience with AirBNB are of little interest since they are not part of a comprehensive report on that company or the vacation rental industry, particularly that segment that facilitates rental by small property (e.g., apartment or condo owners).  I think that his most meaningful contribution to the “dialogue” between the readers of Chris’ blog was his statement via a “Comment” that “I’m sorry this has turned into a slug fest. Not my intention. I was hoping to spark a constructive debate about collaborative consumption in the service industry.”

  • Anonymous

    Could the OP’s poor holiday experience have stemmed from a lack of communication between himself and his host?  Did the OP communicate all of his key requirements and receive assurances from the host before completing the booking?  A reminder regarding the water supply and the proper WiFi connection required could certainly have been handled in this way.  I visited the AIRBnB site and found that an opportunity is provided and the two parties are encouraged to communicate needs beforehand.   Did the OP make use of this facility?  
     
    In AIRBnB’s information video, the presenter mentioned that she was staying in an apartment that was owned by people who were away for the weekend.  This is something that people wishing to participate in this model need to take into consideration.  The OP’s experience with the malfunctioning lock could have been even worse had his host been out of town.
     
    This business model would be attractive to the experienced, independent traveler, who wants “adventure” and takes pride in remaining flexible.  Are there enough of them still around to ensure viability in the long-term?  People who are less daring and want certainty and the luxury and convenience of hotels will not be enchanted.  For me, too much is left to faith, trust and good intentions and moreover, there is no on-the-spot support to take care of problems that can occur.
     
    If the OP wants to have discussions with advocates of this model, may I suggest that he not single out AIRBnB but try to have a sort of joint panel discussion with several other proponents of the model.  In this way, no one need feel threatened and the OP would not appear to have a personal axe to grind.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know if Eric will be looking over here, or Chris for that matter, but an FYI, Airbnb is not registered to do business in the State of California with the State Attorney Generel’s Seller of Travel Law.  That is a HUGE red flag and says the company doesn’t wish to follow the laws of the states it does business in.

  • Anonymous

    The sniveler is the guy who can’t use his own supposed fame to handle his own problems, and who has an inflated sense of self-worth.  Why else would he demand an “on air” (rolls eyes) interview to waste a company’s time.

    And I suggest you spend a little more time in the forum (any social media, actually, if you don’t understand some of the concepts like “OP”) before making accusations of me being employed by this company.  I’ve been posting here a very, very long time and my comments are not in anyway limited to customers or businesses.  I’m just not afraid to call a spade a spade.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/JXOP2QJLRQ7BDDYYMRSIJZUMFE Kip Hartwell

    The comments here are almost as interesting as the original post.
    I must say that it is only lack of customer service from airBNB that might cause me any worry after reading ALL of this thread but that may be asking too much of them, more than we would ask of any other company.

    There will always be issues when doing business and it sounds like most were resolved or checked quickly.  I will be looking to AirBNB for my next trip.  It is an odd coincidence that I just installed it 2 days ago :)

  • Anonymous

    I would tend to agree here, and seemingly most readers do too. 

    In my experience, the readership of Chris’s column consists primarily of those sympathetic to traveler concerns.  I tend to fall on the side of the business or other antagonist about half the time, but I’m outnumbered more often than not. 

    And then this guy supposedly isn’t asking for remuneration — a point he’s made a few times, although it’s a bizarre point because he not only received a free night but $200 on top of it. 

    But the point is, if you’re not asking for a full refund or other compensation and you make Chris’s column…and you STILL can’t muster a 50% rating from readers, perhaps it’s time to step back and reconsider the legitimacy of your demands.

  • Wei Leen

    This is an interesting read. Why isn’t any comparison made between Airbnb’s conduct in this matter and what their competitors do?
    @ericschwartzman:disqus I do think that collaborative consumption is the future. We have finite resources at our disposal after all.

    full disclosure: i work for european airbnb competitor 9flats.

  • Anonymous

  • http://twitter.com/TheEditor1 Travel news guru

    The issue here is to do with price. If you want a cheap model, and I notice one of the first things you cover is the price, then you ought to expect cheap support. Its as simple as that. I fear AirBnB attract the wrong sort of owner client because there model is essentially flawed. You either rent an apartment or villa and intend on providing support or you don’t. If you don’t do support you don’t rent it out so for me it’s the owner who ought to take responsibility here, not AirBnB. Eventually, with low price comes problems AirBnB will reap the rewards of that with bad publicity. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Y3WT4FE3KBZGCNWIJE7QA3B5OE Vince

    Off the mark, but something about which I’ve been wondering lately.  Can a person seeking to rent a place through airbnb use the facebook message system to offer the rentor, in an attempt to increase the chances that his/her application is accpted, more than the asking price?

  • wallce

    the guest sound like an idiot