Is this enough compensation? They downgraded me — but where’s my refund?

Donald Buisman splurged on his flight from Kansas City to St. John in the US Virgin Islands by booking two first class seats on United Airlines.

After all, it was his fifth wedding anniversary, and he could pay with a combination of miles and money: 45,841 points and $1,747.

But he didn’t go first class all the way.

“The outbound flight and our stay in St. John was great but we encountered a problem on our return flight,” he says.

When Buisman and his wife arrived at the airport, they discovered their return flight was delayed.

We were then involuntarily bumped to another flight that did not have first class seating available. The flight was operated by US Airways.

We had to get home so I did not make much of a fuss especially since the counter agent said as soon as I landed I could apply for a refund for the difference between the first class service I paid for and the economy service we actually received.

But how do you calculate that difference? As always, there’s math — and there’s airline math.

After many rounds of e-mailing back and forth between US Airways and United, United finally agreed to issue a refund to us. However, the amount they were willing to refund was only $65.22 per person for a total of $130.44.

I did not price economy class tickets for our trip but I am sure the difference was more than $65.22 per ticket each way.

I e-mailed them back asking for the actual fare difference for the return flight charges but I never heard back from them.

Instead of answering his question, he received the following terse notice from United recently:

We have received your refund request. A refund in the amount of $65.22 per person has been issued to the Master Card account. It takes approximately 7 business days for the amount to be credited back to the account.

We appreciate you choosing United Airlines and hope that we can welcome you onboard again soon.

Buisman is unhappy with that response. That seems a little low to me, too.

We’ve had this discussion before, and it all comes down to this: When an airline sells you a first class ticket, it charges you a lot. When it has to refund the fare difference, it offers little.

How convenient.

Buisman tried to appeal the decision, but United won’t respond.

I have not heard anything back from them since July 11 and I can’t talk to anyone at United because they say all refunds can only be done by e-mail or regular mail, not through the telephone. I don’t know how much I should be owed but I don’t think $130.44 is even in the ballpark.

If that was the real fare difference between first class and economy tickets I would fly first class all the time.

I could ask United about this case, but I’m sure it would tell me that once you run the numbers and adjust for the actual value of Buisman’s miles, you do indeed come up with $65.22.

But is that enough? And whatever happend to the Transportation Department’s rules for compensating customers for being denied boarding? Seems United didn’t offer anything for bumping the Buismans.

  • Sadie Cee

    Are you serious?  I hope not.

  • Tony A.

    I think UA999 stopped last 13AUG. Some of its schedules were either non-stop or via SJU on an A320
    It will be replaced by UA1605 effective 12NOV. Flies SAT only 73G non stop till 10DEC.
    On 15DEC till 2JAN, the new flight # is UA1445. 73G flies nonstop 5d/wk.
    Then on 5JAN, the flt# changes to UA1445, 73G initially flies Days 4/6/7
    and adds Days 1/5 on 15MAR. However, on 6APR, UA1445 frequency will reduce to only one day a week – Saturday. The current schedule goes till 18AUG2012.

    I’m not sure whether Mr. Buisman’s flight schedule was prior to 13AUG.

  • Tony A.

    Mikegun,
    Also want to add…
    The old schedule of UA999 was:
    IAD-STT 935A-352P SAT
    STT-IAD 225P-534P SAT 1stop SJU

    So if the pax originated from MCI, he still needs a first class cabin between MCI-IAD at the *proper* arrive and depart schedule.

    Looking at UA’s sched between MCI and IAD, there’s no flight that will arrive in IAD early enough to catch this flight. Also, there is no flight departing IAD late enough to go home to MCI.

    Hence, it looks like MCI-IAD-STT is infeasible unless pax spends the night in DC.

  • Tony A.

    I agree. Without seeing the itinerary and fare construction, it’s like the blind leading the blind.

    I think Elliott should really post the ticket details so it’s easier for us to analyze the issues.

  • Anonymous

    Those are all codes from an online reservation system that travel agents use.  A relative of mine used to work as a travel agent, and that inscrutable code hasn’t changed that much in years.  I think the term is “global distribution system” or GDS.

  • flutiefan

    i didn’t find it terse either. i thought that was a curious adjective to use on something that was so obviously generic and straightforwards.

  • Donbuisman

    I booked the flight through my rewards program on my MasterCard.The points were from my credit card and they were worth about a $500 discount off the first class fare. Our flight was delayed due to weather and they put us on a different flight without giving us any other options. They said they could not put us on a flight on a different airline because no one else had first class available either. I would be happy to answer any other questions you have. United still has not even refunded the $130 they said they would. Do you think I should try contacting them through the refund portion of their website again, or do you have a number to a customer service agent I can call?
    Thanks,
    Don Buisman

  • Donbuisman

    I don’t want to make any money off this. I paid to fly first class and was downgraded to economy and have received no compensation (they never actually credited me back even the $130 they said they would). When you pay for a Lexus you want a Lexus, not a Toyota. If they give you a Toyota they should refund the difference.

  • Geoff

    Sometimes, you pose a question that the common person can complain about, but has nothing but emotion to respond with. Airline refunds are calculated as follows:
    Take the roundtrip fare
    Calculate the actual amount of the 1 way cost
    Subtract that amount from the total
    Issue horribly low refund.

    This can be fought if you have a great travel agent that knows the exact tarriffs for that particular flight, but it would have to be a real airline savvy agent. 

  • Anonymous

    Is there an “end” to this story?  I’m wondering what happened.

  • PauletteB

    You’re assuming that the flight was canceled due to mechanical failure, but that “fact” is not stated in the article.