Is this enough compensation? Get off the ship now — or cruise to nowhere

Jason Plott was scheduled to sail from Galveston, Tex., to the Western Caribbean earlier this month on Carnival’s Ecstasy. But his cruise wasn’t exactly filled with delight.

“We didn’t depart the next day because of fog,” he says. “The next day it was still foggy, but Carnival decided to bring the Conquest ahead of the Ecstasy. I guess they figured they’d rather have one ship with a ruined itinerary instead of two.”

Then the Conquest was struck by a fuel barge, which delayed it further. Here are a few details from a TV report.

Finally, more than a day after Plott was supposed to depart from Galveston, he and his family was allowed to board. It was 1 a.m. on a Sunday. “We had already paid for a hotel and meals for a day-and-a-half,” he remembers.

He continues,

Initially we were told we would skip Cozumel and go to Progresso. This made zero sense, because the four-day itinerary still goes to Cozumel.

Cozumel is the much nicer port. Progresso is really a hole — nice Mayan ruins, but no beaches. Many felt that Carnival was doing this to monopolize the excursion possibilities. Cozumel is also closer.

Well we ended up not leaving until Monday morning.

Hardly the right way to start a cruise, wouldn’t you say?

Carnival offered two options to the stranded passengers, according to Plott:

• They were given the option of “getting off now” and receiving a full refund.

• They could “go on a three-day cruise to nowhere” and get 50 percent refund, $45 onboard credit, and 50 percent off a future cruise.

“We thought about leaving,” he says. “But changing our flight would have been $200 each. Plus, we had flown in a niece to babysit and paid her $300.”

Plott is disappointed by Carnival’s offer.

I do not feel that 50 percent is enough.

We paid for five nights with stops in Cozumel and Progresso. We figured out based on the posted distance to Cozumel, we still could have made it.

It appears they didn’t want to pay the port fees for a semi-empty ship (port fees were all refunded). We also spent money on a hotel for one night and meals for 1 1/2 days.

This is an interesting case. Certainly, the fog and the barge weren’t Carnival’s fault. But could it have handled the situation better?

“Definitely,” says Plott. “If you follow the tweets between myself and four others with @CCLSupport you will see the lack of information. We went two or three hours on Sunday with no updates. Conquest is still in port, rumors of it being hit — but nobody would confirm it — crying, cold kids, the vending machines were empty. Carnival could have ordered pizza and handed out water. But they did nothing. They just treated us like cattle.”

OK, ticket contract notwithstanding, maybe Carnival could have done a little better in the customer service department — at least in Plott’s case.

I mean, what about his hotel and food bills while he was stuck in Galveston? Did Carnival think the 50 percent discount off a future cruise would cover that?

Still, I’ve seen cruise lines do much worse when faced with similar circumstances, so these offers are not bad. Under Carnival’s terms, it could have kept its passengers waiting and then sent them packing when the barge struck, without any meaningful compensation.

A poll of more than 1,000 readers suggests Plott is right.

(Photo: 118/Flickr Creative Commons)

  • http://www.pookdelivery.com Richard Pook

    I’m a qualified yacht captain and have been sailing for over 2 decades. Unfortunately, nature doesn’t answer to us, we have to adjust to it. I’ve been in too many hairy situations not to anymore.

  • MikeZ2

    “I’m a qualified yacht captain and have been sailing for over 2 decades. Unfortunately, nature doesn’t answer to us, we have to adjust to it. I’ve been in too many hairy situations not to anymore.”

    I would completely agree that the weather and even the collision with a barge was an ‘act of god’ and out of Carnivals control. However it does seem to be Carnival’s decision to swap the order of the cruises. That seems like the one thing that would really put Carnival on the hook here. I don’t think there are any good solutions that would make things right but the resolution didn’t seem fitting. Carnival should be paying for the hotel bill/food expenses due to them not being allowed to board in addition to any other package.

  • Michael K

    Re: Travel insurance
    @Arizona: “The average cost for these 38 [travel delay coverage] policies was $ 156″

    Doesn’t that sound like a wash? *IF* they got a good policy, the passengers would basically have gotten their premium back, and little more than that, to reimburse them for one night of lodging and 4 meals.

    They would still get nothing for their lost vacation time. They still don’t reach the destinations that were advertised. They still don’t get back their baby-sitting costs.

    If they elected not to get on the ship and tried return to work early to recoup some of their vacation days, they would have incurred another $400 which I’m pretty certain no travel insurance would have repaid (the ship “sailed”, right?)

    Would anybody in their shoes really be satisfied (considering their future travel constraints with a baby on the way) even if they had superb travel insurance?
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    Re: Analogies to airline weather delays
    If an airline can’t get you to your booked destination(s) (even because of weather) are they entitled to pocket 50% of your original fare for a “flight to nowhere?”

    Furthermore, clearly weather was the major factor, but the barge collision and the decision to position a larger ship ahead of them were NOT acts of God. I have no idea whether or not those several additional hours from non-weather events were the difference between reaching and not reaching a port. But I would not give the cruise line any benefit of the doubt without hard evidence.

    Furthermore, if the cruise line decided to delay a smaller ship to avoid the costs of delaying a larger one, then it seems to me that they morally owe most of that savings to the passengers of the ship they intentionally chose to inconvenience.

  • Aaron

    So they were offered half the cruise for half the price and a half-off discount on a future cruise? That doesn’t sound like a bad deal to me. Would have liked to have seen their hotel covered, but airlines don’t cover for weather delays either. I think the offer was pretty fair.

  • Harry

    @ Jason,

    I guessed you missed my earlier question.
    What do you think is fair compensation?

  • Mel

    I really think that there is an issue with the way they handled the delay in boarding. My parents have cruised out of Galveston before on RCI and had to deal with a similar delay. They were stuck wandering the streets of Galveston looking for food in a town that was overrun with more people than it could handle. There were 4 ships that returned to port and were preparing to set sail again, but due to weather issues, they wouldn’t allow them to board. They didn’t get any ship board credits, or any reimbursement of any kind. They were finally able to board after 9:00pm. I think that all of the cruise lines need to come up with a better plan when things like this happen.

  • Kat

    Makes me think twice about taking a Carnival cruise……

  • Nupe396

    I recently sailed on a Carnival cruise out of New Orleans and absolutely enjoyed it. Also, I am famililar with the delays fog causes along the lower Gulf Coast ports in Freeport, Houston and Galveston. I have experienced the fog delays first hand due to my positions with major oil companies that have dock facilities in this region. I do not think Carnival’s offer was adequate. As a matter of fact, I would venture to say that Carnival’s returns where greater due to the fog delays than they would have been had the ship actually sailed on time. Why? Canival evidently cancelled all onboard meals and activities while it was stuck at port. There is no reason to do so! Even if the fog delays the ship from sailing it doesn’t delay or deter what happens aboard the ship. Carnival should have allowed the passengers to board at their scheduled time and continued the onboard schedule as planned. Anything less tahn that should have warranteed a 100% return plus the abridged cruise.  Think about, you can save alot of money if you do not have to provide food for 4000 people  on a 24 hour basis. Carnival’s decision shows that MBA’s are way smarter than the average consumer. I guarantee if the tides had been reversed the people at Carnival that decided upon the 50/50 deal would have been pissed by it and would take their future business elsewhere because of it.