Is this any way to treat a member of the President’s Club?

Sarena Wiener thought she’d taken every precaution before embarking on her Vantage Deluxe World Travel tour of India recently. Her flight itinerary gave her plenty of time to make her connections, she had purchased travel insurance, and besides, she was a valued customer — a member of Vantage’s “President’s Club.”

What could go wrong?

Everything could go wrong, that’s what.

Wiener missed her connection because of a weather delay, her insurance failed to cover her trip interruption, and she couldn’t catch up with her group. She had to turn around and go home.

Here are a few details: She’d flown from Fort Lauderdale to JFK on JetBlue, but that flight was delayed by three hours. That left her just one hour to make the connection in New York.

Wiener, who is 78, tried her best to make it to the Air India gate, but by the time she got there, the aircraft had already pushed back.

I attempted to call Vantage and Air India numerous times. I just got recorded music when I called Vantage. Then I was put through to a representative who couldn’t communicate with anyone at JFK. At the Air India terminal, all employees were absent, even though the plane was still on the runway.

If Vantage had offered her a seat on the next day’s flight, she says she would have gladly taken it, but no one could help her, so she flew back to Fort Lauderdale.

Wiener made a claim through TripMate, her travel insurance policy, but it would not cover her trip interruption. Vantage offered her a voucher for $5,053, which could be applied to a future trip.

She wonders — is this any way to treat a member of the Vantage President’s Club?

Well, I checked the fine print on the club.

The President’s Club is reserved for Vantage Deluxe World Travel’s most loyal and valued travelers. Designed to provide recognition and priority service, it is Vantage’s way of saying a heartfelt thank you to our best customers. You are enrolled automatically once you come back from your third Vantage trip — and can start enjoying the benefits of membership immediately.

And what benefits are those, exactly? They’re fairly minor — things like space-available upgrades, cocktail parties and gift certificates. The most useful part of the club to her would have been the “priority” service, which, on second thought, she didn’t really receive when she was stuck in JFK.

“Being a member of Vantage’s President’s Club sure turned out to be a dis-advantage,” she told me.

I contacted Vantage on her behalf. The company reiterated its original offer without responding to me.

“It seems that’s the final resolution,” she says.

Wiener booked a new trip to India this March.

(Photo: Seamus Murray/Flickr)

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think Air India is a member of any airline alliance.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think Air India is a member of any airline alliance.

  • Anonymous

    I’m only taking pity on her because of her age (78) but really, if you’re leaving on a very important, expensive trip and it’s a large wager, why, in the name of all that’s holy would you not take a flight into New York the day before ??  Anything can happen with any given flight, any airline,  on any one given day.  Is it not worth one night’s stay at a hotel in New York, near the airport to continue your much wanted trip R E L A X E D  ??

  • Anonymous

    You can’t control the weather. 

  • Anonymous

    Again, here’s Chris giving us all the details.  Anyone else notice a great many significant “holes” lately?

  • Anonymous

    true.  once they push back, what’s the point?

  • Anonymous

    Funny you don’t see a real strong criticism of the travel insurance industry in this blog.  Then again, they are paid sponsors.

  • Anonymous

    First, I am a strong advocate of travel insurance as based upon my several posts over the years at this blog.
     
    There is a big difference between a travel insurance policy that is sold by Squaremouth, InsuredMyTrip, etc. and ‘travel protection plans’ that are sold by travel providers (i.e. airlines, tour operators, cruise lines, etc.).
     
    First, policies that are sold by sites such as Squaremouth, InsuredMyTrip, etc. are sold by licensed insurance agents.  Travel protection plans are sold by companies and individuals that are not licensed as insurance agents since it is not an insurance product.
     
    In regards to their statement that their plans (they don’t use the word ‘policy’) are underwritten by United States Fire Insurance Company is a marketing ploy.  I used to work for a Wall Street firm as a Compliance Officer that had a business unit that sold self-funded health plans.  The plans were underwritten by insurance companies to assume the risk of large claims but technical and legally it is not major medical policy, a health insurance policy,  etc…it is a self-funded health plan.
     
    Companies such as TripMate are licensed as a plan administrator not as an insurance company.  I went to the State of Missouri Insurance website, http://insurance.mo.gov/CompanyAgentSearch/search/search-companies.php, and entered Trip Mate, TripMate, Trip and Globus  (since the tour operator owns TripMate) and none of these  names appeared as a licensed insurance company.  This is the same result that occur the last that I commented about in regards to a situation involving travel protection plans.
     
    Every travel protection plan that I encountered as a consumer or read in this blog, the travel protection plan was written by the airline, cruise line or tour operator.  The terms of these travel protection plans were written to benefit the travel provider.  For example, a traveler purchased a travel protection plan with a ‘cancel for any reason plan’.  The traveler developed a medical condition that prevented him from traveling again…the benefit from the protection plan was a voucher for a future tour and it was non-transferrable…making it worthless for the traveler.  All of the policies that I have purchased and seen at Squaremouth, InsuredMyTrip, etc. the ‘cancel for any reason benefit’ pays cash to the insured.
     
    We have taken tours and I have read the fine print of the travel protections plans that came with the tours.  The bottom line that they didn’t cover much, was written for the benefit of the travel provider so in short, they were basically worthless.
     
    There might be a travel protection plan out there that could match the benefits and features of a travel insurance policy but I have seen it yet.

  • Anonymous

    First, I am a strong advocate of travel insurance as based upon my several posts over the years at this blog. My issue is with travel protection plans that are marketed and sold like a travel insurance policy.
     
    There is a big difference between a travel insurance policy that is sold by Squaremouth, InsuredMyTrip, etc. and ‘travel protection plans’ that are sold by travel providers (i.e. airlines, tour operators, cruise lines, etc.).
     
    First, policies that are sold by sites such as Squaremouth, InsuredMyTrip, etc. are sold by licensed insurance agents.  Travel protection plans are sold by companies and individuals that are not licensed as insurance agents since it is not an insurance product.
     
    In regards to their statement that their plans (they don’t use the word ‘policy’) are underwritten by United States Fire Insurance Company is a marketing ploy.  I used to work for a Wall Street firm as a Compliance Officer that had a business unit that sold self-funded health plans.  The plans were underwritten by insurance companies to assume the risk of large claims but technical and legally it is not major medical policy, a health insurance policy,  etc…it is a self-funded health plan.
     
    Companies such as TripMate are licensed as a plan administrator not as an insurance company.  I went to the State of Missouri Insurance website, http://insurance.mo.gov/CompanyAgentSearch/search/search-companies.php, and entered Trip Mate, TripMate, Trip and Globus  (since the tour operator owns TripMate) and none of these  names appeared as a licensed insurance company.  This is the same result that occur the last that I commented about in regards to a situation involving travel protection plans.
     
    Every travel protection plan that I encountered as a consumer or read in this blog, the travel protection plan was written by the airline, cruise line or tour operator.  The terms of these travel protection plans were written to benefit the travel provider.  For example, a traveler purchased a travel protection plan with a ‘cancel for any reason plan’.  The traveler developed a medical condition that prevented him from traveling again…the benefit from the protection plan was a voucher for a future tour and it was non-transferrable…making it worthless for the traveler.  All of the policies that I have purchased and seen at Squaremouth, InsuredMyTrip, etc. the ‘cancel for any reason benefit’ pays cash to the insured.
     
    We have taken tours and I have read the fine print of the travel protections plans that came with the tours.  The bottom line that they didn’t cover much, was written for the benefit of the travel provider so in short, they were basically worthless.
     
    There might be a travel protection plan out there that could match the benefits and features of a travel insurance policy but I have seen it yet.

  • Anonymous

    You understand the difference between the two.

  • Anonymous

    The plan is NOT an insurance policy since it is NOT registered as an insurance product by each state.  TripMate nor its owner, Globus (who is a tour operator) is licensed as an insurance company.  The travel protection can be sold by individuals not licensed as an insurance agent.  This is a self-fund plan where the risk is being underwritten by United States Fire Insurance Company.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s see what is costs for an overnight stay:
    Taxi from JFK to Manhattan –  $45 plus tolls
    Taxi from Manhattaon to JFK – another $45 plus tolls
    Dinner in Manhattan – $50
    AARP discounted room at Grand Hyatt – $271 w/ tax.
    Traffic in Manhattan – PRICELESS

    So staying overnight in Manhattan will cost her at least $400.

    Now let’s look at the on-time performance ratings of the morning JetBlue flights:

    B6  68   FLLJFK- 600A 841A   9 320 0EB6  26   FLLJFK- 715A 959A   9 320 0EB6   2   FLLJFK- 805A1051A   9 320 0E

    All the flights have better than 90% on-time performance.

    AI102 departs JFK at 225PM from Terminal 4. So it’s one stop in the inner AirTrain (inter terminal) link from JetBlue’s Terminal 5. Looks like taking any of the 3 morning B6 flights was not supposed to be a bad choice.

    IMO if only Vantage answered their phones, they could have put her on a cab to Newark and take CO82 departing 837PM bound for Delhi. She would only be 6 hours and 20 minutes late to her destination. If that CO flight was not available, then Jet Airways 9W 225 to BRU-DEL  departing JFK at 6PM arriving DEL 1030PM would be the next choice.

    Incidentally, her travel protection plan would repay her back up to $750 for a missed connection. A one way fare is at least $499 plus fuel surcharge and tax. The cheapest 9W one-way ticket is $788. So she would have been only $38 out of the pocket IF SHE KNEW WHAT TO DO. It’s not too much to expect Vantage Travel to answer their phones at 2PM in the afternoon. They failed her.

  • Anonymous

    What did they (insurance) do wrong here?

  • Anonymous

    You can check out the plan here.

    http://www.tripmate.com/wpF427V/tic.htm

  • Anonymous

    LOL, now connecting to an international flight requires arrival a day early and overnight stay. Right. Laughable.

  • Anonymous

    who said anything about Manhattan? JFK is on the edge of Queens, on the border of Long Island. there are plenty of nearby hotels and motels that don’t require any of those costs.

  • Anonymous

    I won’t recommend a 78 year old who paid $6K++ to vantage stay on one of those dumps around JFK. I suppose she has the money to be comfortable if she needs to. But my point is since the JetBlue flights were ~90% on time, if she took the early ones out of FLL, what is the point of throwing $400 on a one night stay? Besides she was covered by insurance for Flight Delay for $750.

    I have worked in Queens since the 90′s. My travel office is in between LGA and JFK (not too far from where Jet Blue used to be). Other than me [who commutes when I have to], all the folks at the office live in Queens. Minimum she could stay at LaGuardia Marriott [but cannot walk around] or if she likes the Chinatown feeling, the Sheraton Flushing.I drive or take the shuttle all the time to JFK. When my flights are delayed and am offered a room around JFK, I automatically refuse and either stay in the airport lounge [even if I have to pay] or go home [or the office or my co-worker's homes] and come back later. Sorry, but that JFK area is a hell hole.

  • Bill Armstrong

    You don’t give enough information, Chris.  Is the compensation offered enough to pay for an entire trip (excepting the leg on Jet Blue)?  If so, it is not a bad offer.  When there’s an important connection like that, fly the day before.

  • Bruce Burger

    Tony, you’re kidding, right? There’s a Marriott Courtyard and Doubletree, among others, adjacent to JFK. I suspect anyone — let alone someone traveling to India! — can survive a night in those places just fine.

  • Anonymous

    Have to agree with TonyA’s earlier response.  My son lives in Queens and is adamant that when we visit, we stay in Manhattan.  (No, it’s not to make us keep our distance!  :) )My husband has stayed in Flushing on an airline voucher; never again!  Have to check into @Bruce Burger’s suggestion about the Marriott and Doubletree.

  • http://twitter.com/xrae Rae A

    The vacation insurance plans sold by The Walt Disney Company seem to be on par with other independent trip insurance plans, and pay cash if a trip is cancelled. They will also cover flights booked apart from the package, and include pre-existing condition waivers. 
    http://media.disneywebcontent.com/StaticFiles/DTA-Domestic/pdf/WDW/WDWGenericVacInsurance.pdf

  • Anonymous

    The Marriott Courtyard is extremely nice and has a restaurant on the premises.  The shuttle will take you from the AirTrain to the hotel and then back to the terminal.  I’ve done it when connecting to an international flight to Jordan taking my own advice and arriving the night before.  If you need a hotel near JFK, Ihighly recommend the Marriott but I definitely wouldn’t stay there for a vacation!

  • Anonymous

    Bruce, I wish I was kidding.
    I am really embarrassed about this since I do have guests who come in and want to visit for a short stopover. I need to book them in Manhattan AND DRIVE THEM TO AND FROM!

    JFK is one of the worst airports in the world and the property around it included.

    By the way, just because someone is going to India does not mean they will accept low standards. To each his/her own.

    Some people may disagree and that’s ok. How much they want to spend on a hotel is personal.

  • Anonymous

    Nope – their invitation to join the Star Alliance was suspended due to their inability to meet the minimum requirements.

  • Anonymous

    No, maybe not – but his was NOT a connecting flight, it was a separate ticket, so as far as Air india is concerned, they were a no show for their ORIGINAL flight.  When you book split tickets like this, you have to allow MORE than sufficient time, and an overnight stay when using tickets like these is NOT out of the ordinary at all.

  • Anonymous

    Right.  If she had CALLED them immediately, this whole mess could have been straightened out.  After all, it took her time to have Jet Blue change her ticket to return home the same day, so it would have taken the insurance company around the same amount of time to re-accommodate her.  ALWAYS call the insurance company at the FIRST sign of trouble!

  • Anonymous

    Good advice, Linda! 
    For example, Travel Guard has 24/7 WORLDWIDE ASSISTANCE SERVICES including:
    Emergency Travel Assistance
    Dedicated LiveTravel counselors available to help with any travel request, including flight or hotel rebookings, rental car reservations, roadside assistance, and more.
    I wonder why she bought insurance and didn’t bother to call and use it. Did she buy the JetBlue ticket on her own and thought the insurance did not cover her problem?
    I agree she should have called TripMate.Which makes me want to ask this question – when she bought the Vantage tour and opted for trip protection, was she given a copy of the policy and Tripmate’s contact info?